From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #386 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, November 18 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 386 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Music biz insider Bob Lefsetz on Carey/Cary [Michael Paz ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1414 [Laurie Antonioli ] #1000! [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: #1000! ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1405 [carmel rotem ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:29:42 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Music biz insider Bob Lefsetz on Carey/Cary Mostly old fogies or folkies or somthing like that. Paz headed to LA for less than 24 hours tomorrow! On Nov 18, 2014, at 5:03 PM, Steve Dulson wrote: And yes, people DO still play the dulcimer! :) From: Bob Lefsetz Date: November 18, 2014, 12:21:37 PM PST To: brogdenbay@yahoo.com Subject: Carey Reply-To: Bob Lefsetz There are a lot of baby boomers who don't know "Blue," but to those who do it sits right up there with the White Album, it's one of the best LPs ever made. At this late date emphasis is upon "A Case Of You," that's the song the youngsters cover. But in the pre-CD days we dropped the needle on this hitless wonder and were enraptured immediately by "All I Want" and stayed all the way through "The Last Time I Saw Richard." Actually, you picked a side. After playing it through. That's what we did with all our albums, drilled down deep and after knowing one side by heart we flipped the record over to learn what was on the other. And oftentimes the side we picked was actually number two. It was for me on "Blue," because it began with "California." "I'm going to see the folks I dig I'll even kiss a Sunset pig California I'm coming home" That's right, pig. This was back before every male deserved that moniker, tarred with the sexual advances of their brethren. At this time "pig" meant "cop." Oh, how far we've come. In the pre-9/11 days those in blue were not to be trusted. The African-Americans still know this, Ferguson is evidence of this, but the whites have switched sides, suddenly cops and servicemen are heroes. I'm not saying they never were, just that it's strange to see Bruce Springsteen extolling the virtues of veterans at the Concert For Valor. It's a head-scratcher for those who grew up in the sixties. We didn't want to go to war. We abhorred government policies. And we didn't trust the police long before Ice-T told us not to. And I'll leave aside the excellent points that today's military is doing the job we were unwilling to, and that they're not taken care of after their days in combat are done, never mind that contractors do so much of the work, and that not every cop is a bad apple, but the point is it was very different times, where it was all about personal development as opposed to wallet development, and every young person hopped aboard Icelandic Air and got a Eurail Pass and saw the continent. Not only the upper class. Then again, we were all middle class, I didn't know any truly rich people. But I'd been to California. I yearned to live there. The Beach Boys infected me, Joni Mitchell sealed the deal. And I knew every line of that number, especially: "I met a redneck on a Grecian isle Who did the goat dance very well He gave me back my smile But he kept my camera to sell" He was neither a redneck nor did he keep the camera. Huh? I always thought Joni was singing about a local, someone she got involved with who grew up there. But Cary Raditz grew up in North Carolina. HUH? "The wind is in from Africa Last night I couldn't sleep Oh, you know it sure is hard to leave here Carey But it's really not my home" But that's CAREY and he's named CARY! And to tell you the truth, being CAREY with an "e" I always pondered whether Joni was singing about a girl, but no, she admits she misspelled it, it's all laid out in this wonderful article in the "Wall Street Journal." That's right, once I became inured to side one of "Blue" I flipped it over. And in position four, after "Little Green" and before "Blue," was "Carey." "Come on down to the Mermaid Cafe and I will Buy you a bottle of wine And we'll laugh and toast to nothing and smash our empty glasses down Let's have a round for these freaks and these soldiers A round for these friends of mine Let's have another round for the bright red devil Who keeps me in this tourist town" That's Cary. He had red hair. And a cane... "Come on Carey get out your cane" Whew! She's singing the truth, albeit with a few notable changes. Turns out Taylor Swift is not the only one singing about her exes. But in the heyday of feminism it's Joni who loves 'em and leaves 'em, she gets a story to tell, not as revenge, but as a way to stoke the starmaker machinery behind the popular song. And eventually Cary came to California, to visit Joni. He was transfixed. But she was out of his league. He gave her back her camera and that was it. And I can't believe it's 2014 and I finally know all this. Actually, if you do a bit of web research the picture starts to come clear. But back in 1971 there was no web, all we had was the album cover and rumors. Everybody talked like they knew Joni, but not only did they not know her, they knew very little. And sure she was beautiful, but it was her talent that enraptured. The way she could sing her story and make it universal. She expressed what we were feeling, from the heart. Not her desire to get rich or revenge, but to eat up this life, to have endless experiences, get drunk and tell tales, flirt and fuck and be free. We always wanted to be free. Actually, we were. And whenever we drop the needle on "Blue" we baby boomers feel this way again. P.S. Joni may have had her fame, but Cary had his charisma, never underestimate charisma. P.P.S. I always shoo away the locals trying to make a buck, but having paid the insistent photographer to snap we end up with this pic that is hard to stop staring at. A relic from the ages, depicting a king and queen who were not cheer captain and football star, but leads in their own movie. P.P.P.S. Does anybody play a dulcimer anymore? Does anybody play this instrument that evidences honesty and humanity as soon as you strum? "When Joni Mitchell Met Cary Raditz, Her 'Mean Old Daddy' - The subject of Joni Mitchell's 'Carey' recalls his time with the singer in early 1970 in a fishing village on Crete": http://on.wsj.com/1xTE8ra "Joni Mitchell on the Muse Behind 'Carey' - The singer wrote her hit 'Carey' while camping out in a seaside cave on Crete in early 1970": http://on.wsj.com/1xzjxHL - -- Visit the archive: http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/ - -- http://www.twitter.com/lefsetz - -- If you would like to subscribe to the LefsetzLetter, http://www.lefsetz.com/lists/?p=subscribe&id=1 If you do not want to receive any more LefsetzLetters, http://lefsetz.com/lists/?p=unsubscribe&uid=2dacc41a738dc343e4c092e25e2b4231 To change your email address http://lefsetz.com/lists/?p=preferences&uid=2dacc41a738dc343e4c092e25e2b4231 - -- powered by phpList, www.phplist.com -- *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 20:02:16 -0500 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Re: Joni doesn't know the geography of Crete No sir. Nothin's clear. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 11:24:32 -0800 From: Darice Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1418 I saw Katey Sagal at Hardly Strictly Bluegrass in 2013. Really enjoyed her set Sent from my iPhone On Nov 16, 2014, at 9:51 AM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > JMDL Digest Sunday, November 16 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1418 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Katey Sagal's For Free ["Mark" ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 09:40:40 -0800 > From: "Mark" > Subject: Re: Katey Sagal's For Free > > Katy Sagal was also a back-up singer for Bette Midler. She was one of the > original Harlettes. > > Mark in chilly Seatte > > - -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Clark > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2014 8:29 AM > To: scjoniguy@yahoo.com ; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Katey Sagal's For Free > > Hey Bob,B On our favorite show around here, CBS's Sunday Morning, (that's > where I learned what Rowday Yates has been up to, a character on what I > think > is your favorite Joni song, Dancin' Clown) there was a profile of Katey > Sagal, > the actress who played the mother on Married with Children and is on Sons of > Anarchy. Anyway, in addition to being a cool actress, she is also a > singer-songwriter musician and digging a bit, she put out a cd called > Covered > that includes For Free along with Jackson Browne's For a Dancer, Laura's > Gonna > Take a Miracle, etc. Jackson sings on one of the songs. She's got a good > voice. Do you have this?JeffNP: Katey Sagal, Gonna Take a Miracle > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1418 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 06:18:40 -0800 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1414 Moni, thanks for the videos - wonderful to see. "The wind is in from Africa..." - so exotic. When I lived in Southern Austria the winds from Africa would come in and leave a slight red dust - it would conjure so many feelings - especially how close things are in that part of the world. But of course, I always thought of Joni's song, too!! Laurie On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 5:05 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Sunday, November 16 2014 Volume 2014 : Number > 1414 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Wall Street Journal Article ["Susan E. McNamara" < > sem8@cornell.edu>] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2014 13:04:52 +0000 > From: "Susan E. McNamara" > Subject: Re: Wall Street Journal Article > > Thanks Moni ... I hadn't seen the Joni section of that article ... It > sounds like a portion of her memoirs that she is apparently writing! I > really love hearing these experiences in her voice ... Also why I am loving > the Malka Marom book. It's really quite a conundrum to understand how much > pain she was in while writing this music we love so much. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 15, 2014, at 3:43 PM, "Moni Kellermann" > wrote: > > > > Well, it has been making the rounds on the 5 gazillion different Joni > groups and personal posts on Facebook, so probably everyone has already > bumped into it a million times there. > > > > There are actually TWO pieces by the same author: > > > > 1. When Joni Mitchell Met Cary Raditz, Her b Mean Old Daddyb > > The subject of Joni Mitchellb s b Careyb recalls his time with the > singer in early 1970 in a fishing village on Crete > > > > > http://online.wsj.com/articles/when-joni-mitchell-met-cary-raditz-her-mean-old-daddy-1415721367 > > > > and > > > > 2. Anatomy of a Song: Joni Mitchell on the Muse Behind b Careyb > > The singer wrote her hit b Careyb while camping out in a seaside cave > on Crete in early 1970 > > > > > http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-muse-behind-joni-mitchells-carey-1415721658 > > > > I'm gonna throw in some bonus video links as well: > > > > http://vimeo.com/13148100 (Joni Mitchell's Matala, Crete) > > > > and here's the song set to some 1971 footage of Matala: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qiXqopbiPjg > > > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > > moni k. > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1414 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:36:18 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: #1000! More royalty pennies for Joni! I updated our database today to include new BSN covers by Shanti (Japan) and a live recording releasing next week from Mary Fahl (from New York, formerly of the band October Project). Mary had previously released a studio version of it last year. It will be awhile before another Joni song hits the 4-digit mark. River is a solid #2 with 422 covers and counting (especially this time of year). Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:39:15 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: #1000! Congrats Joni! And congrats Bob, for keeping track!! :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:36 PM To: joni Subject: #1000! More royalty pennies for Joni! I updated our database today to include new BSN covers by Shanti (Japan) and a live recording releasing next week from Mary Fahl (from New York, formerly of the band October Project). Mary had previously released a studio version of it last year. It will be awhile before another Joni song hits the 4-digit mark. River is a solid #2 with 422 covers and counting (especially this time of year). Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 21:26:56 +0000 (UTC) From: carmel rotem Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1405 thanks so much Bob (and Laura).I really hoped the recording is out there somewhere to hear, but I appreciate the detailed answer. hoping we'll all get to hear it sometime...B so glad to have this list, where I can pop out of nowhere every once in a (long) while and get my questions answered. so thanks again!Carmel. On Saturday, November 15, 2014 10:53 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: JMDL DigestB B B Saturday, November 15 2014B B B Volume 2014 : Number 1405 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- B Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1403B B B B B ["Laura O." ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 14:51:54 -0600 From: "Laura O." Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1403 Here's the lyrics and info: http://jonimitchell.com/library/cr_film.cfm?id=142&from=search Laura On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 1:42 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL DigestB B B Saturday, November 15 2014B B B Volume 2014 : Number > 1403 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- >B Midnight Cowboy songB B B B B B B B [carmel rotem < > carmelrotem@yahoo.com>] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 15 Nov 2014 19:39:23 +0000 (UTC) > From: carmel rotem > Subject: Midnight Cowboy song > > Hi everyone! > I'm reading Malka's book, and got to the part when they talk about the > Midnight Cowboy song Joni wrote.I think it's the first time I hear of it, > and I tried looking that song up on youtube but didn't find it.is there a > recording of it somewhere? was it even actually recorded? > thanks a lot for any information,Carmel. > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1403 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1405 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. 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