From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #385 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, November 18 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 385 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Are we groupies? [Jamie Zubairi Home ] Some lovely JMDL reviews of Hejira Live appearing on CD Baby [Dave Blackb] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1423 [Laurie Antonioli ] Re: Joni doesn't know the geography of Crete [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: Seattle Times review and interesting comment ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Music biz insider Bob Lefsetz on Carey/Cary [Steve Dulson Subject: Re: Are we groupies? Surely groupies want to get laid by the band? ;-) And no, I've never seen her live in concert (or anywhere else either) Much Joni Jamie Zoob Jamie Zubairi Actor, Voiceover, Painter, Photographer. Agent: Byron's Management 020 72428096 SpotLight Showreel Unbroken Line Jamie Zubairi is Associate Artist at Ovalhouse working on new works for 2014 You can see him soon in: *Three Sides To A Fence* Lost Theatre Solo Festival 7:30pm 9th October 2014 *Expectations* Oct 22-25 Ovalhouse supported by public funding from the Arts Council of England *Cucumber* for Channel 4, by Russell T Davies due Jan 2015 Current exhibition *Clapham Library October 2014* Recent work: *Tino Sehgal Unilever Commission "These Associations"* Tate Modern (Turner Prize Nominated) *Unbroken Line*' OvalHouse, supported by public funding from the Arts Council of England. On 14 November 2014 02:39, Laura Stanley wrote: > Tonight I got asked if I am a Joni Mitchell groupie. I didn't know how to > answer that. I've never seen Joni in concertb& could I still be a groupie? > > I'm here because I play her music. I was curious about her chords so I > googled to find them. Now I might be a groupieb& Ha ha ha!! > > Are y'all groupies? > > Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 10:45:05 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Some lovely JMDL reviews of Hejira Live appearing on CD Baby Many thanks to Bob, Mark and Laurie for the glowing reviews of our Hejira Live release. It is now available as a download, as well as a CD via http://www.robinadler.com/products.html If anyone else would care to add a review to the CDBaby page it would be much appreciated. http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/robinadlerandmuttsofthep Many thanks all. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 05:30:06 -0800 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1423 Yes, BSN is our most downloaded song. Strange I almost didn't put it on the record (being the anti-conformist that I am) but honestly, since we found our "place" with the tune, I've grown to love it - so much more there than I originally thought 30 years ago. I'm attaching a live radio performance we did -- hope it comes through. This was to promote our CD Release concert. It's different every time. Can't remember if I sent this to you all or not. If so, my apologies. Enjoy --- Laurie On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 12:00 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Tuesday, November 18 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1423 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: #1000! ["Mark" < > mark.travis@frontier.com>] > Shorter link to the Mutts review, njc [ > jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] > RE: #1000! ["Susan E. McNamara" < > sem8@cornell.edu>] > RE: #1000! ["ron" < > rong@mweb.co.za>] > #1000! > [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > Joni doesn't know the geography of Crete [Moni Kellermann > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 19:02:56 -0800 > From: "Mark" > Subject: Re: #1000! > > Wow! 1,000 covers of 'Both Sides Now'! If that doesn't make the song a > standard, I don't know what would! > > Thanks, Bob! > > Mark in Seattle > > - -----Original Message----- > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 11:36 AM > To: joni > Subject: #1000! > > More royalty pennies for Joni! > > I updated our database today to include new BSN covers by Shanti (Japan) > and a live recording releasing next week from Mary Fahl (from New York, > formerly of the band October Project). Mary had previously released a > studio version of it last year. > > It will be awhile before another Joni song hits the 4-digit mark. River is > a solid #2 with 422 covers and counting (especially this time of year). > > Bob > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any and all > computers and other devices. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:55:38 -0500 > From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com > Subject: Shorter link to the Mutts review, njc > > Here is a Shorter link, Wayne: > > http://tinyurl.com/mjaw5v3 > > Jim > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 20:39:15 +0000 > From: "Susan E. McNamara" > Subject: RE: #1000! > > Congrats Joni! And congrats Bob, for keeping track!! :-) > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > - -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Sent: Monday, November 17, 2014 2:36 PM > To: joni > Subject: #1000! > > More royalty pennies for Joni! > > I updated our database today to include new BSN covers by Shanti (Japan) > and a live recording releasing next week from Mary Fahl (from New York, > formerly of the band October Project). Mary had previously released a > studio version of it last year. > > It will be awhile before another Joni song hits the 4-digit mark. River is > a solid #2 with 422 covers and counting (especially this time of year). > > Bob > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential > and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby > notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, > reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is > prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and > delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and > may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 07:43:30 +0200 > From: "ron" > Subject: RE: #1000! > > Bob wrote: > "I updated our database today to include new BSN covers by Shanti (Japan) > and a live recording releasing next week from Mary Fahl (from New York, > formerly of the band October Project). Mary had previously released a > studio version of it last year." > > > & it will be a really good cover to make the milestone with! > > I really love mary fahl's version... > > > Ron > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:36:18 -0500 > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: #1000! > > More royalty pennies for Joni! > > I updated our database today to include new BSN covers by Shanti (Japan) > and a live recording releasing next week from Mary Fahl (from New York, > formerly of the band October Project). Mary had previously released a > studio version of it last year. > > It will be awhile before another Joni song hits the 4-digit mark. River is > a solid #2 with 422 covers and counting (especially this time of year). > > Bob > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any and all > computers and other devices. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 08:42:14 +0100 > From: Moni Kellermann > Subject: Joni doesn't know the geography of Crete > > In the WSJ article > > > http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-muse-behind-joni-mitchells-carey-1415721658 > > she is quoted as saying "As we stood staring out toward Turkey, an > explosion went off behind us." > > You cannot see Turkey from Matala, as the village is on the south side > of Crete: http://goo.gl/maps/9bluT > > (Thanx to my old pal Andreas who is a longtime Joni fan as well as a > regular Crete vacationer for pointing out to this.) > > > moni k. > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1423 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type audio/mpeg which had a name of KPFA - Both Sides Now.mp3] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 10:33:49 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni doesn't know the geography of Crete I'm sure that Joni would *not* like to be referred to as the Sarah Palin of the music community! Bob NP: The Buzzcocks, "Hollow Inside" From: Moni Kellermann To: JMDL , Date: 11/18/2014 02:43 AM Subject: Joni doesn't know the geography of Crete Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org In the WSJ article http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-muse-behind-joni-mitchells-carey-1415721658 she is quoted as saying "As we stood staring out toward Turkey, an explosion went off behind us." You cannot see Turkey from Matala, as the village is on the south side of Crete: http://goo.gl/maps/9bluT (Thanx to my old pal Andreas who is a longtime Joni fan as well as a regular Crete vacationer for pointing out to this.) moni k. - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any and all computers and other devices. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:24:23 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Seattle Times review and interesting comment She mentioned having the Mingus outtakes at the TimesTalk in Toronto last year. An collective audible gasp erupted from the audience. Of course, she wouldn't commit to when she was going to release them. She must also have a vast collection of tapes from her pre-recording cafi days ... She's a cruel hoarder ... Sorry for saying that Joan!! :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Michael Sentance Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2014 12:53 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Seattle Times review and interesting comment The Seattle Times has a brief (and positive) review of the new Joni set: Joni Mitchell box set sounds fantastic but no surprises Itbs a surprise given the long span of Joni Mitchellbs career that she has never previously put out a multi-disc compilation box. The four-CD set bLove Has Many Facesb is her first, with a total of 53 tracks, all newly remastered. Mitchell has been working on this for two decades, and in 2009 even issued a news release announcing a planned collection of rare outtakes due that year. She pulled the plug on that, however. I had not read or heard of that outtakes album. So she has a "Basement Tapes" collection somewhere? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 12:52:30 -0500 From: Michael Sentance Subject: Seattle Times review and interesting comment The Seattle Times has a brief (and positive) review of the new Joni set: Joni Mitchell box set sounds fantastic but no surprises Itbs a surprise given the long span of Joni Mitchellbs career that she has never previously put out a multi-disc compilation box. The four-CD set bLove Has Many Facesb is her first, with a total of 53 tracks, all newly remastered. Mitchell has been working on this for two decades, and in 2009 even issued a news release announcing a planned collection of rare outtakes due that year. She pulled the plug on that, however. I had not read or heard of that outtakes album. So she has a "Basement Tapes" collection somewhere? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 06:27:09 -0800 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1423 Thanks, Moni. Try this: https://soundcloud.com/laurie-antonioli/kpfa-both-lides-now/s-DNvWc LA On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 6:20 AM, Moni Kellermann wrote: > Am 18.11.2014 um 14:30 schrieb Laurie Antonioli: > >> I'm attaching a live radio performance we did -- hope it comes through. >> > > Nope. No file attachments whatsoever on this list. > > If you want to share a file, such as an mp3, you need to upload it > somewhere and then link to it. > > Kind regards, > moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:03:14 -0500 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Music biz insider Bob Lefsetz on Carey/Cary And yes, people DO still play the dulcimer! :) From: Bob Lefsetz Date: November 18, 2014, 12:21:37 PM PST To: brogdenbay@yahoo.com Subject: Carey Reply-To: Bob Lefsetz There are a lot of baby boomers who don't know "Blue," but to those who do it sits right up there with the White Album, it's one of the best LPs ever made. At this late date emphasis is upon "A Case Of You," that's the song the youngsters cover. But in the pre-CD days we dropped the needle on this hitless wonder and were enraptured immediately by "All I Want" and stayed all the way through "The Last Time I Saw Richard." Actually, you picked a side. After playing it through. That's what we did with all our albums, drilled down deep and after knowing one side by heart we flipped the record over to learn what was on the other. And oftentimes the side we picked was actually number two. It was for me on "Blue," because it began with "California." "I'm going to see the folks I dig I'll even kiss a Sunset pig California I'm coming home" That's right, pig. This was back before every male deserved that moniker, tarred with the sexual advances of their brethren. At this time "pig" meant "cop." Oh, how far we've come. In the pre-9/11 days those in blue were not to be trusted. The African-Americans still know this, Ferguson is evidence of this, but the whites have switched sides, suddenly cops and servicemen are heroes. I'm not saying they never were, just that it's strange to see Bruce Springsteen extolling the virtues of veterans at the Concert For Valor. It's a head-scratcher for those who grew up in the sixties. We didn't want to go to war. We abhorred government policies. And we didn't trust the police long before Ice-T told us not to. And I'll leave aside the excellent points that today's military is doing the job we were unwilling to, and that they're not taken care of after their days in combat are done, never mind that contractors do so much of the work, and that not every cop is a bad apple, but the point is it was very different times, where it was all about personal development as opposed to wallet development, and every young person hopped aboard Icelandic Air and got a Eurail Pass and saw the continent. Not only the upper class. Then again, we were all middle class, I didn't know any truly rich people. But I'd been to California. I yearned to live there. The Beach Boys infected me, Joni Mitchell sealed the deal. And I knew every line of that number, especially: "I met a redneck on a Grecian isle Who did the goat dance very well He gave me back my smile But he kept my camera to sell" He was neither a redneck nor did he keep the camera. Huh? I always thought Joni was singing about a local, someone she got involved with who grew up there. But Cary Raditz grew up in North Carolina. HUH? "The wind is in from Africa Last night I couldn't sleep Oh, you know it sure is hard to leave here Carey But it's really not my home" But that's CAREY and he's named CARY! And to tell you the truth, being CAREY with an "e" I always pondered whether Joni was singing about a girl, but no, she admits she misspelled it, it's all laid out in this wonderful article in the "Wall Street Journal." That's right, once I became inured to side one of "Blue" I flipped it over. And in position four, after "Little Green" and before "Blue," was "Carey." "Come on down to the Mermaid Cafe and I will Buy you a bottle of wine And we'll laugh and toast to nothing and smash our empty glasses down Let's have a round for these freaks and these soldiers A round for these friends of mine Let's have another round for the bright red devil Who keeps me in this tourist town" That's Cary. He had red hair. And a cane... "Come on Carey get out your cane" Whew! She's singing the truth, albeit with a few notable changes. Turns out Taylor Swift is not the only one singing about her exes. But in the heyday of feminism it's Joni who loves 'em and leaves 'em, she gets a story to tell, not as revenge, but as a way to stoke the starmaker machinery behind the popular song. And eventually Cary came to California, to visit Joni. He was transfixed. But she was out of his league. He gave her back her camera and that was it. And I can't believe it's 2014 and I finally know all this. Actually, if you do a bit of web research the picture starts to come clear. But back in 1971 there was no web, all we had was the album cover and rumors. Everybody talked like they knew Joni, but not only did they not know her, they knew very little. And sure she was beautiful, but it was her talent that enraptured. The way she could sing her story and make it universal. She expressed what we were feeling, from the heart. Not her desire to get rich or revenge, but to eat up this life, to have endless experiences, get drunk and tell tales, flirt and fuck and be free. We always wanted to be free. Actually, we were. And whenever we drop the needle on "Blue" we baby boomers feel this way again. P.S. Joni may have had her fame, but Cary had his charisma, never underestimate charisma. P.P.S. I always shoo away the locals trying to make a buck, but having paid the insistent photographer to snap we end up with this pic that is hard to stop staring at. A relic from the ages, depicting a king and queen who were not cheer captain and football star, but leads in their own movie. P.P.P.S. Does anybody play a dulcimer anymore? Does anybody play this instrument that evidences honesty and humanity as soon as you strum? "When Joni Mitchell Met Cary Raditz, Her 'Mean Old Daddy' - The subject of Joni Mitchell's 'Carey' recalls his time with the singer in early 1970 in a fishing village on Crete": http://on.wsj.com/1xTE8ra "Joni Mitchell on the Muse Behind 'Carey' - The singer wrote her hit 'Carey' while camping out in a seaside cave on Crete in early 1970": http://on.wsj.com/1xzjxHL - -- Visit the archive: http://lefsetz.com/wordpress/ - -- http://www.twitter.com/lefsetz - -- If you would like to subscribe to the LefsetzLetter, http://www.lefsetz.com/lists/?p=subscribe&id=1 If you do not want to receive any more LefsetzLetters, http://lefsetz.com/lists/?p=unsubscribe&uid=2dacc41a738dc343e4c092e25e2b4231 To change your email address http://lefsetz.com/lists/?p=preferences&uid=2dacc41a738dc343e4c092e25e2b4231 - -- powered by phpList, www.phplist.com -- *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #385 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe