From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #355 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, October 25 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 355 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- hello [Babs ] RE: Thoughts on "Love Has Many Faces" [c Karma ] There's Truth in Humor [simon@icu.com] RE: Thoughts on "Love Has Many Faces" [c Karma ] =?utf-8?Q?PopSpots_=26_Joel_Bernstein=E2=80=99s_WebSite?= [simon@icu.com] Thoughts on "Love Has Many Faces" [c Karma ] No Apologies [Jeff Clark ] =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Joel_Bernstein=E2=80=99s_WebSite?= [Anita Gabrielle Subject: hello http://goodbooks.dk/form.php?4b0egt2y3hma Barbara Renton barbarent7@aol.com ============= NFS was a leap forward from one miserable file system, to many united miserable file systems. -- Felipe Cabrera ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:35:28 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: RE: Thoughts on "Love Has Many Faces" Third time is a charm, let's see if this is any better. Trying an adjustment that was suggested to me by a fellow lister. CC "Man from Mars. This time you went too far." -- JM ________________________________ > From: ckarma@hotmail.com > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Thoughts on "Love Has Many Faces" > Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:59:30 +0000 > > The title is also used on a movie from the 1950s with Lana Turner and > Cliff Robertson. It looks like a cross between "Peyton Place" and > "Beach Party Bingo" Somehow, appropriately re-used here with or > without reference back to "Love Puts on a New Face." > > Songs for which there are multiple choices of original versions, and > (my version preferencelet's see how well my predictions jive with > Joni's choices, assuming no legal obstacles involved): > Disc 1, Track 1 - In France They Kiss on Main Street (Shadows and Light) > Disc 1, Track 3 - You Turn Me On I'm A Radio (Miles of Aisles) > Disc 1, Track 8 - Chinese Cafe/Unchained Melody (Wild Things Run Fast) > Disc 1, Track 9 - Harry's House/Centerpiece (Hissing of Summer Lawns) > listing mentions Centerpiece so I think this may be the HOSL version, > the Travelogue version did not include it) > Disc 2, Track 12 - Hejira (Hejira) > Disc 3, Track 4 - Borderline (Travelogue) > Disc 3, Track 6 - You Dream Flat Tires (WTRF, but this and next track > probably lifted together from Travelogue) > Disc 3, Track 7 - Love (Travelogue) > Disc 3, Track 9 - Be Cool (WTRF) > Disc 3, Track 11 - Just Like This Train (Court and Spark) > Disc 3, Track 12 - Carey (Blue) > Disc 4, Track 3 - God Must Be A Boogie Man (Mingus) > Disc 4, Track 5 - A Case of You (Travelogue) > Disc 4, Track 6 - The Last Time I Saw Richard (Blue) > Disc 4, Track 7 - Raised on Robbery (Court and Spark) > Disc 4, Track 11 - Amelia (Hejira) > Disc 4, Track 12 - Both Sides Now (Travelogue) > > I have to admit some of the song order (based on Amazon's track > listing) has me spinning both in terms of pacing and theme propriety. > Particularly: > Disc 1, Track 6 - Dancin Clown to Track 7 - River > Disc 2, Track 8 - Blue to Track 9 - Tax Free > Disc 2, Track 9 -Tax Free to Track 10, - The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey > Disc 2, Track 10 - The Wolf That Lives in Lindsey to Track 11 - Hana > (only makes sense if you've seen the movie "White Banners": reference > to character Hanna's emergence from the snow storm) > Disc 3, Track 6 - You Dream Flat Tires to Track 7 - Love (these two > must be chosen from Travelogue as this was the order used there too and > just as perplexingly) > Disc 4, Track 6 - The Last Time I Saw Richard to Track 7 - Raised On Robbery > > > Is there a story arc here that's just too obtuse, or will the > impressions reveal themselves upon listening to define it? I'm > intrigued. > > CC ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 10:07:32 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: There's Truth in Humor The Truth - In Humor F-Bombs For Feminism: Potty-Mouthed Princesses use Bad Word For Good Cause by FCKH8.com or Facing a future where women are still paid 23% less than men for the same work, and where 1 in 5 women are raped or sexually assaulted in gender-based violence, little girls between 6 and 13 years-old dressed as pretty pink princesses drop F-bombs to draw attention to societybs continued sexism. Asking the question, bWhatbs more offensive? A little girl saying f*ck or the sexist way society treats girls and womenb these adorably articulate little ladies in sparkling tiaras turn the bprincess in distressb stereotype on its head and contrast the F-word with words and statistics society should find shocking such as bpay inequalityb and brape.b The video also features a 12 year-old boy wearing a pink gown standing up against sexism saying, bWhen you tell boys not to bact like a girl,b itbs because you think itbs bad to be a girl.b - - - - - Hey White People: A Kinda Awkward Note to America by #Ferguson Kids Six black kids from Ferguson, MO bluntly and sarcastically educate white America about the racist reality in 2014. Recruited from the very block where unarmed black teen Michael Brown was gunned down by a white police officer, these kids ranging in age from 6 to 13 years old, use sometimes uncomfortable humor to show white people the continued racism their generation faces. Armed ONLY with statistics (hands up, don't shoot) these articulate and adorable kids are not having it while much of white America would rather pretend racism is over. - - - - - Hands Up. Donbt Shoot! AndSoItGoes, - - - - - - - - - simonM http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/chronology_v4.0.pdf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 19:57:58 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: RE: Thoughts on "Love Has Many Faces" I'm gonna try this one again and see if SMOE.ORG will reformat it beyond readability. The title is also used on a movie from the 1950s with Lana Turner and Cliff Robertson. It looks like a cross between "Peyton Place" and "Beach Party Bingo" Somehow, appropriately re-used here with or without reference back to "Love Puts on a New Face." Songs for which there are multiple choices of original versions, and (my version preferencelet's see how well my predictions jive with Joni's choices, assuming no legal obstacles involved):Disc 1, Track 1 - In France They Kiss on Main Street (Shadows and Light)Disc 1, Track 3 - You Turn Me On I'm A Radio (Miles of Aisles)Disc 1, Track 8 - Chinese Cafe/Unchained Melody (Wild Things Run Fast)Disc 1, Track 9 - Harry's House/Centerpiece (Hissing of Summer Lawns) listing mentions Centerpiece so I think this may be the HOSL version, the Travelogue version did not include it)Disc 2, Track 12 - Hejira (Hejira)Disc 3, Track 4 - Borderline (Travelogue)Disc 3, Track 6 - You Dream Flat Tires (WTRF, but this and next track probably lifted together from Travelogue)Disc 3, Track 7 - Love (Travelogue)Disc 3, Track 9 - Be Cool (WTRF)Disc 3, Track 11 - - Just Like This Train (Court and Spark)Disc 3, Track 12 - Carey (Blue)Disc 4, Track 3 - God Must Be A Boogie Man (Mingus)Disc 4, Track 5 - A Case of You (Travelogue)Disc 4, Track 6 - The Last Time I Saw Richard (Blue)Disc 4, Track 7 - Raised on Robbery (Court and Spark)Disc 4, Track 11 - Amelia (Hejira)Disc 4, Track 12 - Both Sides Now (Travelogue) I have to admit some of the song order (based on Amazon's track listing) has me spinning terms of pacing and theme propriety. Particularly:Disc 1, Track 6 - - Dancin Clown to Track 7 - RiverDisc 2, Track 8 - Blue to Track 9 - Tax FreeDisc 2, Track 9 -Tax Free to Track 10, - The Wolf That Lives In LindseyDisc 2, Track 10 - The Wolf That Lives in Lindsey to Track 11 - Hana (only makes sense if you've seen the movie "White Banners" for reference to character Hanna's emergence from the snow storm)Disc 3, Track 6 - You Dream Flat Tires to Track 7 - Love (these two must be chosen from Travelogue as this was the order used there too and just as perplexingly)Disc 4, Track 6 - The Last Time I Saw Richard to Track 7 - Raised On Robbery Is there a story arc here that's just too obtuse, or will the impressions reveal themselves upon listening to define it? I'm intrigued. CC "Man from Mars. This time you went too far." -- JM ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 11:41:30 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: =?utf-8?Q?PopSpots_=26_Joel_Bernstein=E2=80=99s_WebSite?= Jeff Clark wrote: > Speaking of the evolution of Joni songs, I happened to look at Joel Bernsteinbs WebSite and > saw a b&w Joni photo I'd never seen before. Its of the first draft of Barangrill sitting on her > piano. If you've never seen it before its a cool photo. > It looks like the working title is Lost Hill or something. > > Jeff, You should check out You may be surprised to see the uncropped photo that ended up on the cover of Neil Young's "After The Goldrush". The original photo includes Graham Nash. They also located the original location. A number of photos, notes, and explanations are also included. PopSpots is a WebSite that locates the exact locations of album cover photos and other visuals of pop history. They tracked down the location of the photo featured on the back cover of Jonibs bSONG TO A SEAGULLb album. Check it out @ Itbs the 10th photo as you scroll down. AndMoreAgain, - - - - - - - - - - simonM http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/chronology_v4.0.pdf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 20:52:34 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: Thoughts on "Love Has Many Faces" The title is also used on a movie from the 1950s with Lana Turner and Cliff Robertson. It looks like a cross between "Peyton Place" and "Beach Party Bingo" Somehow, appropriately re-used here with or without reference back to "Love Puts on a New Face." Songs for which there are multiple choices of original versions, and (my version preferencelet's see how well my predictions jive with Joni's choices, assuming no legal obstacles involved): Disc 1, Track 1 - In France They Kiss on Main Street (Shadows and Light) Disc 1, Track 3 - You Turn Me On I'm A Radio (Miles of Aisles) Disc 1, Track 8 - Chinese Cafe/Unchained Melody (Wild Things Run Fast) Disc 1, Track 9 - Harry's House/Centerpiece (Hissing of Summer Lawns) listing mentions Centerpiece so I think this may be the HOSL version, the Travelogue version did not include it) Disc 2, Track 12 - Hejira (Hejira) Disc 3, Track 4 - Borderline (Travelogue) Disc 3, Track 6 - You Dream Flat Tires (WTRF, but this and next track probably lifted together from Travelogue) Disc 3, Track 7 - Love (Travelogue) Disc 3, Track 9 - Be Cool (WTRF) Disc 3, Track 11 - Just Like This Train (Court and Spark) Disc 3, Track 12 - Carey (Blue) Disc 4, Track 3 - God Must Be A Boogie Man (Mingus) Disc 4, Track 5 - A Case of You (Travelogue) Disc 4, Track 6 - The Last Time I Saw Richard (Blue) Disc 4, Track 7 - Raised on Robbery (Court and Spark) Disc 4, Track 11 - Amelia (Hejira) Disc 4, Track 12 - Both Sides Now (Travelogue) I have to admit some of the song order (based on Amazon's track listing) has me spinning both in terms of pacing and theme propriety. Particularly: Disc 1, Track 6 - Dancin Clown to Track 7 - River Disc 2, Track 8 - Blue to Track 9 - Tax Free (I mean, what is Tax Free doing here at all?) Disc 2, Track 9 -Tax Free to Track 10, - The Wolf That Lives In Lindsey Disc 2, Track 10 - The Wolf That Lives in Lindsey to Track 11 - Hana (only makes sense if you've seen the movie "White Banners": reference to character Hanna's emergence from the snow storm) Disc 3, Track 6 - You Dream Flat Tires to Track 7 - Love (these two must be chosen from Travelogue as this was the order used there too and just as perplexingly) Disc 4, Track 6 - The Last Time I Saw Richard to Track 7 - Raised On Robbery Is there a story arc here that's just too obtuse, or will the impressions reveal themselves upon listening to define it? I'm intrigued. CC "Man from Mars. This time you went too far." -- JM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2014 02:02:54 +0000 (UTC) From: Jeff Clark Subject: No Apologies I thought that Joni, as a five star General (of music and song) offers "no apologies" for not finishing the ballet, putting out these songs that most people already have, smoking, or anything else. Seriously, her question, "what makes a man a man in these tough times" does offer a lot to think about. Jeff ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2014 17:38:14 +0100 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Joel_Bernstein=E2=80=99s_WebSite?= Is it my projection or imagination, or is the photo of Joni in 1970 whilst making 'Blue' (JM 09) very much in line with Joni's description of herself as 'paper thin.'Her eyes look, to me, slightly differently focused - not really present, almost other worldly, yet her gaze is solidly at the camera. Her hands look as if they are moving. It's an uncomfortable photo to me. Be interested to know what anyone else sees. It is also interesting to see photos over a period of years. The confident musician in the 80s is very different from the woman of the late 60s and early70s. http://joelbernstein.com/JMthumb.html Anita ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #355 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe