From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #348 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, October 17 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 348 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: symposium [Anita Gabrielle ] Thoughts on "Love Has Many Faces" [c Karma ] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1322 [c Karma ] Rolling Stone article about the WONDERFUL Box Set [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: symposium [Dave Blackburn ] Re: New boxed set... but not THAT boxed set [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] Re: New boxed set... but not THAT boxed set [Les Irvin Subject: Re: symposium Warming up your Blighty speak, Dave? A x > On 17 Oct 2014, at 03:38, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > Blimey, Chris. > > >> On Oct 16, 2014, at 4:22 PM, c Karma wrote: >> >> Academia/schmacademia. Dave Blackburn could tell it all from a musicological >> point of view during a MOTP performance or three. The rest of it should be >> round after round of Joni Jeopardy with one winner! >> >> I'll take "Myrtle's Advice" for 600, Alex. >> >> CC >> >>> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:56:28 -0400 >>> From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org >>> To: joni-digest@smoe.org >>> Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1314 >>> >>> >>> JMDL Digest Thursday, October 16 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1314 >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> >>> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >>> -------- >>> Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1313 [Laurie Antonioli >> ] >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:55:40 -0700 >>> From: Laurie Antonioli >>> Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1313 >>> >>> I've got California Jazz Conservatory letterhead - between Susan and me we >> could look academically impressive! Honestly - I have now added Joni and >> Stevie Wonder as official composers of the "Great American Songbook" - since >> I'm the Chair of the vocal program, you know, it's my prerogative. >> Interesting topic, no? >>> >>> Laurie >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 2:17 PM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) >> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> JMDL Digest Thursday, October 16 2014 Volume 2014 : Number >> 1313 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ========== >>>> >>>> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >>>> -------- >>>> RE: UK Symposium/Jonifest in July? ["Susan E. McNamara" >> >>> >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> >>>> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:59:32 +0000 >>>> From: "Susan E. McNamara" >>>> Subject: RE: UK Symposium/Jonifest in July? >>>> >>>> I wonder if my white paper on why your town should stage a Joni Mitchell >> Tribute concert would fly as academic? I could throw Cornell logos all over >> it. :-) >>>> >>>> Susan Tierney McNamara >>>> email: sem8@cornell.edu >>>> >>>> >>>> - -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Les >> Irvin >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 3:31 PM >>>> To: Joni List >>>> Subject: UK Symposium/Jonifest in July? >>>> >>>> This looks like it could be pretty awesome: >>>> http://courtandsparksymposium.wordpress.com/ >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1313 >>>> ****************************** >>>> >>>> ------- >>>> To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. >>>> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >>>> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >>>> ------- >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1314 >>> ****************************** >>> >>> ------- >>> To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. >>> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >>> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >>> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:59:30 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: Thoughts on "Love Has Many Faces" The title is also used on a movie from the 1950s with Lana Turner and Cliff Robertson. It looks like a cross between "Peyton Place" and "Beach Party Bingo" Somehow, appropriately re-used here with or without reference back to "Love Puts on a New Face." Songs for which there are multiple choices of original versions, and (my version preferencelet's see how well my predictions jive with Joni's choices, assuming no legal obstacles involved):Disc 1, Track 1 - In France They Kiss on Main Street (Shadows and Light)Disc 1, Track 3 - You Turn Me On I'm A Radio (Miles of Aisles)Disc 1, Track 8 - Chinese Cafe/Unchained Melody (Wild Things Run Fast)Disc 1, Track 9 - Harry's House/Centerpiece (Hissing of Summer Lawns) listing mentions Centerpiece so I think this may be the HOSL version, the Travelogue version did not include it)Disc 2, Track 12 - Hejira (Hejira)Disc 3, Track 4 - Borderline (Travelogue)Disc 3, Track 6 - You Dream Flat Tires (WTRF, but this and next track probably lifted together from Travelogue)Disc 3, Track 7 - Love (Travelogue)Disc 3, Track 9 - Be Cool (WTRF)Disc 3, Track 11 - - Just Like This Train (Court and Spark)Disc 3, Track 12 - Carey (Blue)Disc 4, Track 3 - God Must Be A Boogie Man (Mingus)Disc 4, Track 5 - A Case of You (Travelogue)Disc 4, Track 6 - The Last Time I Saw Richard (Blue)Disc 4, Track 7 - Raised on Robbery (Court and Spark)Disc 4, Track 11 - Amelia (Hejira)Disc 4, Track 12 - Both Sides Now (Travelogue) I have to admit some of the song order (based on Amazon's track listing) has me scratching my head both in terms of pacing and theme. Particularly:Disc 1, Track 6 - Dancin Clown to Track 7 - RiverDisc 2, Track 8 - Blue to Track 9 - Tax FreeDisc 2, Track 9 -Tax Free to Track 10, - The Wolf That Lives In LindseyDisc 2, Track 10 - The Wolf That Lives in Lindsey to Track 11 - Hana (only makes sense if you've seen the movie "White Banners": reference to character Hanna's emergence from the snow storm)Disc 3, Track 6 - You Dream Flat Tires to Track 7 - Love (these two must be chosen from Travelogue as this was the order used there too and just as perplexingly)Disc 4, Track 6 - The Last Time I Saw Richard to Track 7 - Raised On Robbery Is there a story arc here that's just too obtuse, or will the impressions reveal themselves upon listening to define it? I'm intrigued. CC ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 17:36:06 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #1322 Apologies for SMOE's continued reformatting of my messages. I do take care to make them legible but SMOE continues to turn them into gibberish. CC > Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 13:01:21 -0400 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1322 > > > JMDL Digest Friday, October 17 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1322 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Thoughts on "Love Has Many Faces" [c Karma ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 16:59:30 +0000 > From: c Karma > Subject: Thoughts on "Love Has Many Faces" > > The title is also used on a movie from the 1950s with Lana Turner and Cliff > Robertson. It looks like a cross between "Peyton Place" and "Beach Party > Bingo" Somehow, appropriately re-used here with or without reference back to > "Love Puts on a New Face." > Songs for which there are multiple choices of original versions, and (my > version preferencelet's see how well my predictions jive with Joni's choices, > assuming no legal obstacles involved):Disc 1, Track 1 - In France They Kiss on > Main Street (Shadows and Light)Disc 1, Track 3 - You Turn Me On I'm A Radio > (Miles of Aisles)Disc 1, Track 8 - Chinese Cafe/Unchained Melody (Wild Things > Run Fast)Disc 1, Track 9 - Harry's House/Centerpiece (Hissing of Summer Lawns) > listing mentions Centerpiece so I think this may be the HOSL version, the > Travelogue version did not include it)Disc 2, Track 12 - Hejira (Hejira)Disc > 3, Track 4 - Borderline (Travelogue)Disc 3, Track 6 - You Dream Flat Tires > (WTRF, but this and next track probably lifted together from Travelogue)Disc > 3, Track 7 - Love (Travelogue)Disc 3, Track 9 - Be Cool (WTRF)Disc 3, Track 11 > - - Just Like This Train (Court and Spark)Disc 3, Track 12 - Carey (Blue)Disc 4, > Track 3 - God Must Be A Boogie Man (Mingus)Disc 4, Track 5 - A Case of You > (Travelogue)Disc 4, Track 6 - The Last Time I Saw Richard (Blue)Disc 4, Track > 7 - Raised on Robbery (Court and Spark)Disc 4, Track 11 - Amelia (Hejira)Disc > 4, Track 12 - Both Sides Now (Travelogue) > I have to admit some of the song order (based on Amazon's track listing) has > me scratching my head both in terms of pacing and theme. Particularly:Disc 1, > Track 6 - Dancin Clown to Track 7 - RiverDisc 2, Track 8 - Blue to Track 9 - - > Tax FreeDisc 2, Track 9 -Tax Free to Track 10, - The Wolf That Lives In > LindseyDisc 2, Track 10 - The Wolf That Lives in Lindsey to Track 11 - Hana > (only makes sense if you've seen the movie "White Banners": reference to > character Hanna's emergence from the snow storm)Disc 3, Track 6 - You Dream > Flat Tires to Track 7 - Love (these two must be chosen from Travelogue as this > was the order used there too and just as perplexingly)Disc 4, Track 6 - The > Last Time I Saw Richard to Track 7 - Raised On Robbery > > Is there a story arc here that's just too obtuse, or will the impressions > reveal themselves upon listening to define it? I'm intrigued. > CC > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1322 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2014 16:42:38 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Rolling Stone article about the WONDERFUL Box Set http://goo.gl/aHMdSg Bob NP: Beck, "Morning" (beautiful track!) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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The rest of it should be > round after round of Joni Jeopardy with one winner! > > I'll take "Myrtle's Advice" for 600, Alex. > > CC > >> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 17:56:28 -0400 >> From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org >> To: joni-digest@smoe.org >> Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #1314 >> >> >> JMDL Digest Thursday, October 16 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 1314 >> >> >> >> ========== >> >> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >> -------- >> Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1313 [Laurie Antonioli > ] >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 14:55:40 -0700 >> From: Laurie Antonioli >> Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #1313 >> >> I've got California Jazz Conservatory letterhead - between Susan and me we > could look academically impressive! Honestly - I have now added Joni and > Stevie Wonder as official composers of the "Great American Songbook" - since > I'm the Chair of the vocal program, you know, it's my prerogative. > Interesting topic, no? >> >> Laurie >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Oct 16, 2014, at 2:17 PM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) > wrote: >>> >>> >>> JMDL Digest Thursday, October 16 2014 Volume 2014 : Number > 1313 >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> >>> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >>> -------- >>> RE: UK Symposium/Jonifest in July? ["Susan E. McNamara" > >> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2014 20:59:32 +0000 >>> From: "Susan E. McNamara" >>> Subject: RE: UK Symposium/Jonifest in July? >>> >>> I wonder if my white paper on why your town should stage a Joni Mitchell > Tribute concert would fly as academic? I could throw Cornell logos all over > it. :-) >>> >>> Susan Tierney McNamara >>> email: sem8@cornell.edu >>> >>> >>> - -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Les > Irvin >>> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 3:31 PM >>> To: Joni List >>> Subject: UK Symposium/Jonifest in July? >>> >>> This looks like it could be pretty awesome: >>> http://courtandsparksymposium.wordpress.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1313 >>> ****************************** >>> >>> ------- >>> To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. >>> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >>> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >>> ------- >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of JMDL Digest V2014 #1314 >> ****************************** >> >> ------- >> To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. >> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:37:59 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Re: New boxed set... but not THAT boxed set simon would know better than I would know, but my two cents follow: I wasn't an early adopter of CDs but I think the first remastering was mainly for adding the hdcd encoding on the Reprise titles; I heard little difference on my stereo. I think that everything on SoaPG was remastered. My copy is at work but I think most everything was much improved. And I think it was the first time that Joni's studio take of Urge For Going was on CD. Except for SoaPG, and as far as I know, the Reprise titles haven't been touched since. (The reissues on LP were modern, quiet pressings, much better than the quality which Reprise sold in the 70s.) "Joni Mitchell: The Complete Geffen Recordings" featured remastered discs. I heard a big improvement on "Dog Eat Dog" but very little difference on the others. These are just my opinions, off the top of my head. I welcome anyone to research it and prove me wrong. From a pure fidelity perspective, I think Mingus, Travelogue, and BSN would take the cake. But really, fidelity is not as important to me any more. Joni captured tons of great performances, fidelity be damned! In 1931, Irving Mills said, in part > it don't mean a thing > if it ain't got that swing To anyone interested in what this whole topic is about, compare the piano sound on C&S to the richness on Tori Amos' "Under The Pink". Or any Patricia Barber title. Or any Jazz recording on the Blue Note label. Jim L'Hommedieu in Columbus, Ohio Dave said, in part, > Les, I dont really know which or how many versions have been remastered. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:19:18 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: New boxed set... but not THAT boxed set I'm probably wrong, but I think very few of her songs have been remastered throughout the zillions of repackaged sets she's released. Mr Blackburn, what you say? On 10/14/2014 9:06 AM, Moni Kellermann wrote: > > Which brings me to the question: How many different remastered > versions of songs are there now? I really would like to know! ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #348 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe