From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #280 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, August 20 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 280 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Both sides now something's lost, something's gained [Marianne Rizzo Subject: Both sides now something's lost, something's gained SOMETHING'S LOST and SOMETHING'S GAINED in LIVING everyday Well, I was talking to patti about this. "something's lost and something's gained in living everyday." This truly, profound statement was written by a special 23? year old person? I am so touched by this statement. I think of this often. . So many times I have found this in life. . . . Something's lost and something's gained. . . . I pour some concrete in my barn to repair the ground and perhaps closing up some habitat for toads and for a while, I no longer saw the toads in my barn, and I thought, something's lost and something's gained in living every day. I thought perhaps I had cemented over habitat. ( they came back, later though!) But, we lose one thing in this continuation of life, and we hopefully gain another thing. . . THIS is the cycle of life . . . . continuous, yet broken. WHO sees this at 23 years old, 21 years old? WHO arrives at this and is then able to express it? I don't know if I would have come to this myself. What other profound thoughts/analysis are found in this mind/heart of joni? A very smart, intellectual, contemplative, creative one. A gift to us. Thank you joni. How else has joni inspired us and given us words for our experiences? We are better for it. Marianne ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 10:36:37 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Both Sides Now I liked the piece as well...it's why I consider BSN an example of a near-perfect song...lyrics that are both simple and complex while being universally significant, a melody which opens itself up to any genre, and practically a touchstone for an entire generation. A song that will be played and sung long after we are no longer around to hear it. One of the few Joni songs (I could be wrong) that follows the verse/chorus - verse/chorus - verse/chorus pattern. And she wrote it when she was 21 or 22 or something? WTF? Not sure we'll hit 1,000 covers of it by year's end but it won't take too long. Sara Huffman just released her version, #972. And of course Laurie's version was "officially" released this week but we've been enjoying that one for awhile now. Bob NP: Typhoon, "Summer Home" From: "Mark" To: "joni" , Date: 08/20/2014 12:25 AM Subject: Both Sides Now Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Nice short piece by Gail Sheehy. http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-many-sides-of-joni-mitchells-both-sides-now-1408469316 Mark in Seattle - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:47:30 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Re: Both Sides Now Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > And she wrote it when she was 21 or 22 or something? WTF? Bob, Twenty-three, to be exact. Both Sides Now was written in March 1967. FOOTNOTES @ Joni in conversation with Gene Shay "Folklore Program" March 12, 1967 GENE: Want to do some of the requested songs? JONI: Let's see. What have we got here? "Night in the City," "Circle Game" -- oh, "From Both Sides, Now. I'm really glad somebody requested that, because that's a very new song, and I've been driving everybody crazy by playing it twice and three times a night. It's called "From Both Sides, Now." GENE: I haven't heard that one. JONI: I'll play that one first. It -- I should tell people a little bit about it. I was reading a book, and I haven't finished it yet, called "Henderson the Rain King." And there's a line in it that I especially got hung up on that was about when he was flying to Africa and searching for something, he said that in an age when people could look up and down at clouds, they shouldn't be afraid to die. And so I got this idea 'from both sides now. There are a lot of sides to everything, and so the song is called "From Both Sides, Now." (Joni performs "Both Sides, Now.") GENE: It's nice. That's a new one. JONI: Very new. GENE: How new is it? JONI: About three days. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - This short conversation is part of 'A WMMR Radio Retrospective The full transcript is available @ AndSoItGoes, - - - - - - - - - simonM http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/complete.cfm http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/chronology_v4.0.pdf http://jonimitchell.com/music/InspiredByJoni_theAlbums.pdf ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:36:51 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: RE: how she brought Duke into her arrangements Actually, she uses almost the same lines Tom Scott wrote for "Car on a Hill" within the background vocals on "Song for Sharon." CC From: ckarma@hotmail.com To: simon@icu.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: how she brought Duke into her arrangements Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 20:32:59 +0000 Closest illustration that comes to mind right away is the actual use of horns in the intro for "Car on a Hill." Tom Scott channeled how Duke would have arranged it but I could just as easily hear Joni doing those lines vocally. Compare "Jeep's Blues" (Duke) to "Cotton Avenue." CC From: simon@icu.com Subject: how she brought Duke into her arrangements Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 13:44:17 -0400 To: ckarma@hotmail.com On Aug 20, 2014, at 11:05 AM, c Karma wrote: Sue, I always thought it was how she best brought the Duke into herarrangements. Her background vocals were the stacked horns.Their slides made them snaky.CC Now this I find most interesting. Would you care to elaborate? Duke Ellington just happens to be my Most Favorite musician. Period! Id love to hear more. andmoreagain,- - - - - - - - -simonM ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #280 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe