From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #243 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, July 21 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 243 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Tribute albums [Ken Bausert ] Re: Joni lyrics in the most peculiar places [Lori Renee Fye ] Re: Joni lyrics in the most peculiar places [Lori Renee Fye ] Re: Joni lyrics in the most peculiar places [Anita G ] Re: Joni lyrics in the most peculiar places [Lori Renee Fye ] New Library item: Where are they now? [TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com] Re: New Library item: Where are they now? Joni Mitchell FIGHTING odd & painful disease [Anita Gabrielle ] Re: Attention UK JMDLers ["johnnybgoode@lineone.net" Subject: Re: Tribute albums Regarding "covers"... I think cover versions, especially when collected in a tribute album, often have some amazing versions of songs we've all come to know & love so well; other times, I find them painful to listen to. I would certainly give the Laura Nyro tribute album a listen to but, because she was such a unique talent, I can understand some people not thinking anyone could do her songs as well as she. Kenny B ( in a rare, unlurking moment) From: Richard Flynn To: 'Garret' ; 'Dave Blackburn' Cc: fabiococchi@ymail.com; 'JMDL' Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 5:46:58 PM Subject: RE: Covering Joni's songs I just came across the announcement of this Laura Nyro Tribute: http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/07/15/alison-krauss-joins-billy-childs-o n-laura-nyros-and-when-i-die-exclusive/ through the Laura Nyro Facebook group and a ton of people there were saying they couldn't listen to anyone by Laura Nyro herself. The sample of jazz composer and pianist Billy Childs featuring Alison Krauss and Jerry Douglas is stunning. The CD is produced by Larry Klein. (slight Joni connection) I just don't understand a blanket refusal to listen to covers. I sure will buy this when it comes out in September. Sent from my iPad > On Jul 20, 2014, at 11:55 PM, owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) wrote: > > From: Richard Flynn > To: 'Garret' ; 'Dave Blackburn' > Cc: fabiococchi@ymail.com; 'JMDL' > Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 5:46:58 PM > Subject: RE: Covering Joni's songs > > > I just came across the announcement of this Laura Nyro Tribute: > http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/07/15/alison-krauss-joins-billy-childs-o > n-laura-nyros-and-when-i-die-exclusive/ > through the Laura Nyro Facebook group and a ton of people there were saying > they couldn't listen to anyone by Laura Nyro herself. > > The sample of jazz composer and pianist Billy Childs featuring Alison Krauss > and Jerry Douglas is stunning. The CD is produced by Larry Klein. (slight > Joni connection) > > I just don't understand a blanket refusal to listen to covers. I sure will > buy this when it comes out in September. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:37:34 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: Joni lyrics in the most peculiar places > and WTF is a "power ballad?" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Ballads_(disambiguation) I was thinking maybe Yahoo Beauty (that's funny in itself) columnist Laura Sherman was referring to Janet Jackson's song, "Got 'til It's Gone," but that wasn't released until 1997. I'd like to know WTF Laura Sherman is on about. Lori in smoky (due to the wildfires) Caldwell, Idaho ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 08:19:15 -0700 From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Covers And one of the greatest I've heard has not been recorded; Bettye Lavette's incredible version of "Last Chance Lost", she did it at the Carnegie Hall tribute and ripped the emotion of it wide open. Then again she does that with practically everything she sings. As for River, it's tough to top Dianne Reeves' 1999 recording. She picked up on tune way before it became a Christmas fad. Bob NP: Amy Dabalos, "Both Sides Now" ________________________________ From: Betsy Blue To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 10:50 PM Subject: Covers >some covers...may be spectacular: k.d langs Jericho, Chaka Khan's Ladies Man May I add Chaka Khan's Hejira and k.d. lang's River? It is the rare interpreter who gets more than one right. k.d. is consistently good, while Chaka ranges between brilliant and off-the-mark. The one cover that I feel is really an improvement is Emmylou Harris on Magdalene Laundries. Not even CSN's Woodstock falls into that category for me. Many covers, even Joni's own, are just different. It's always nice to hear a new interpretation. Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 16:00:29 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: Joni lyrics in the most peculiar places > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i28UEoLXVFQ > > Never heard of it! Ha ha ha! Neither had I, but I was never much of a fan of that band or any of that music. Thanks for solving the mystery though, Catherine! Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 21:27:31 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Joni lyrics in the most peculiar places Anita, you must try to let go of the trivial stuff and concentrate on whats important: The colour of your lips. On Jul 19, 2014, at 3:55 PM, Anita G wrote: > Quote from the comments: > > "There are few things more frustrating than finally finding the right > colour lipstick, blush, powder, whatever to go with one's skin tones, only > to have that product promptly discontinued." > > And there am I, worrying about the Gaza strip and Ukraine................... > > > On 19 July 2014 23:00, Lori Renee Fye wrote: > >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i28UEoLXVFQ >>> >>> Never heard of it! Ha ha ha! >> >> Neither had I, but I was never much of a fan of that band or any of that >> music. Thanks for solving the mystery though, Catherine! >> >> Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 13:09:25 -0400 From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: New Library item: 10 THINGS you didn't know about...JONI MITCHELL Like the rest of us, I knew all 10. Bob NP: Emancipator, "First Snow" Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 20, 2014, at 1:01 PM, TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com wrote: > > Title: 10 THINGS you didn't know about...JONI MITCHELL > Publication: Globe > Date: 2014.07.07 > > http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2805 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 20:17:39 +0200 (CEST) From: Peter Holmstedt Subject: Henry Lewy..... https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/henry-lewy-the-man-behind-the-music/x/8179142 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 23:55:06 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Joni lyrics in the most peculiar places Quote from the comments: "There are few things more frustrating than finally finding the right colour lipstick, blush, powder, whatever to go with one's skin tones, only to have that product promptly discontinued." And there am I, worrying about the Gaza strip and Ukraine................... On 19 July 2014 23:00, Lori Renee Fye wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i28UEoLXVFQ > > > > Never heard of it! Ha ha ha! > > Neither had I, but I was never much of a fan of that band or any of that > music. Thanks for solving the mystery though, Catherine! > > Lori ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 12:52:48 -0700 From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni lyrics in the most peculiar places So I posted a snarky response in the comments section and am just waiting for trolls to ask, "Who cares!" ________________________________ From: Catherine McKay To: JMDL Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 3:46:54 PM Subject: Joni lyrics in the most peculiar places I clicked on a link on yahoo for a weird news story, and here's how it opened: 'bYou Donbt Know What Youbve Got (Till Itbs Gone)b might be the title of an almost-forgettable 1980s power ballad, but itbs also truebespecially when it comes to beauty products.' to which, my brain says, "WTF? 'almost-forgettable 1980s power ballad?'" What is that supposed to even mean, and how dare anyone diss what is probably her most-known hit from the 70s, not the 80s? Get the title right much? and WTF is a "power ballad?" I read no further than the first line but here's the article in case anyone give a crap! I was lured in by the idea that people would pay on EBay and so on far more than an item is worth for something that no doubt reached its best-before date decades ago, and which was likely recreated with a different name many times since. https://ca.shine.yahoo.com/most-in-demand-discontinued-beauty-products-151359 599.html ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 09:32:10 -0700 From: Bob Muller Subject: Retro Covers, Volume 111 All this talk about covers now, must be the start of the latest style! Well, a boy can dream. Hey all, here's an outstanding collection...talk about DEEEP tracks, it kicks off with three tunes that are rarely done, including one that Joni never released. Melody Diachun's "Free Man In Paris" is incredible. Maureen McGovern is famous for her monster hit "The Morning After", I think that was from The Poseidon Adventure. Sharon Veer used to be Sharon Bell aka Sharon with the family and farm in Song For Sharon. A couple of Fiddles and a Jericho, lots of uncommon delights in this sampler. https://www.yousendit.com/download/ZUczV0o2UEMwVW12eE1UQw 1. Jordan Trotter - Car On A Hill 2. Pamela Luccarelli - Love Is Like A Big Brass Band 3. Leigh Carriage - Crazy Cries Of Love 4. Lucinda Drayton - Both Sides Now 5. Maureen McGovern - The Circle Game 6. Maureen McGovern - The Fiddle And The Drum 7. Delerium Blues Project - Be Cool 8. Liz Bligan - Big Yellow Taxi 9. Melody Diachun - Free Man In Paris 10. Sharon Veer - Both Sides Now 11. Nina Vidal - River 12. Kristofer Benn - The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines 13. The Favourites - You Turn Me On I'm A Radio 14. Suzanne Fiore - Jericho 15. Rie Fu - Both Sides Now 16. Sunday Folk - Big Yellow Taxi 17. Karan Casey - The Fiddle And The Drum 18. Billy Cox - The Circle Game 19. Syncopation - Both Sides Now 19 songs, 19 hits! Enjoy. Bob NP: Sonny Rollins, "Patanjali" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:38:33 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: Joni lyrics in the most peculiar places Sorry ... typo ... That should've been Lauren Sherman. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2014 14:46:19 -0700 From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni lyrics in the most peculiar places So, by the wikipedia definition of "power ballad," the writer even got that wrong. "BYT" doesn't fit that description at all. And I agree that "Yahoo Beauty" sounds like an oxymoron. Maybe there's some other song that none of us have heard of. ________________________________ From: Lori Renee Fye To: Cc: JMDL Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2014 4:37:34 PM Subject: Re: Joni lyrics in the most peculiar places > and WTF is a "power ballad?" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_Ballads_(disambiguation) I was thinking maybe Yahoo Beauty (that's funny in itself) columnist Laura Sherman was referring to Janet Jackson's song, "Got 'til It's Gone," but that wasn't released until 1997. I'd like to know WTF Laura Sherman is on about. Lori in smoky (due to the wildfires) Caldwell, Idaho ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 12:27:07 -0700 From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Henry Lewy..... This sounds interesting. An indigogo fundraiser to make a film about Henry Lewy. If you're very rich and can donate lots of money, you can get some cool extra *stuff* too. ________________________________ From: Peter Holmstedt To: joni@smoe.org Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2014 2:17:39 PM Subject: Henry Lewy..... https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/henry-lewy-the-man-behind-the-music/x/8179142 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:27:08 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Where are they now? Title: Where are they now? Publication: Globe Date: 2014.07.14 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2806 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 19:07:46 +0100 From: Anita Gabrielle Subject: Re: New Library item: Where are they now? Joni Mitchell FIGHTING odd & painful disease Joni: "Fibres in a variety of colors protrude out of my skin like mushrooms after a rainstorm. They cannot be forensically identified as animal, vegetable or mineral." Must be stardust, Anita ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2014 17:46:58 -0400 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: Covering Joni's songs I just came across the announcement of this Laura Nyro Tribute: http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/07/15/alison-krauss-joins-billy-childs-o n-laura-nyros-and-when-i-die-exclusive/ through the Laura Nyro Facebook group and a ton of people there were saying they couldn't listen to anyone by Laura Nyro herself. The sample of jazz composer and pianist Billy Childs featuring Alison Krauss and Jerry Douglas is stunning. The CD is produced by Larry Klein. (slight Joni connection) I just don't understand a blanket refusal to listen to covers. I sure will buy this when it comes out in September. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Garret Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 5:20 PM To: Dave Blackburn Cc: fabiococchi@ymail.com; JMDL Subject: Re: Covering Joni's songs In fairness, no one ever said to Monet "paint a starry night" again man. Although I would love to see his interpretation. Garret On 18 Jul 2014 21:31, "Dave Blackburn" wrote: > Fabio, > > To each his own of course, but Joni is a composer first and foremost. > and composers if they are lucky get their compositions performed. No > one detracts from Joni's own versions by presenting them with a new > angle. She herself reinvented several of her tunes many times during > of the course of her career, effectively covering her early material > herself. There is this strange stigma about covers in the rock > world, but in the jazz and classical world it is understood that the > standards and the catalogue of a good composer s work is there to be plumbed and given a fresh presentation. > > That being said there will always be a range of talent from poor to > great, and accordingly some covers may be pale imitations of something > great - which I suspect is what you are referring to - but some may be spectacular: > k.d langs Jericho, Chaka Khan s Ladies Man, James Taylor s River, for > example, and quite a few whole albums that are wonderful, the latest > of which is Laurie s. Tierney Sutton s After Blue is another, Big > Yellow Taxi s Treasures of Joni Mitchell, and perhaps our own Safaris > to the Heart is worthy of a favorable mention alongside them. Apart > from anything else it is killer music to play and audiences flock to > hear it, already enamoured of the music in its original form. > > As Anita says, Joni simply ain t doing it anymore, and I don t think > her legacy is in the least diminished by a new generation of artists > re-imagining her music. > > Dave > > > On Jul 18, 2014, at 11:47 AM, fabiococchi@ymail.com wrote: > > > Hi everybody! To be honest, there are really very few Joni's songs > covered by other artists that I like ( including some famous ones). > It's just that Joni's genius is hard to match! It's all right to cover > a song and include it in an album. But I believe that an entire > project is quite risky. Herbie's Joni'Letters is certainly an > exception! But be careful out there... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 22:51:31 +0100 (BST) From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" Subject: Re: Attention UK JMDLers Bob, But is it worth the time and cost of getting to Putney, and getting back in the wee small hours? You lucky Londoners,I never have the overnights there at the time the things I'm interested in are on. Roll on HS2 John >----Original Message---- >From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com >Date: 17/07/2014 15:31 >To: "joni" >Subj: Attention UK JMDLers > >http://www.wandsworthguardian.co.uk/news/11345010.Joni_Mitchell_s_wonderful_soul_music_explored/?ref=var_0 > >Joni Mitchell fans are in for a treat this month. >The Half Moon in Putney hosts Jonibs Soul during which vocalist Gina >Foster will explore the soulful side of Mitchell. >She will be joined by guest singer Manuela Panizzo from Italy and a band >who will recreate some of Mitchell's most iconic material from her albums. > >They will explore Mitchellbs music with everything from Coyote, Edith and >the Kingpin, the Hissing of Summer Lawns to Both Sides Now. >Mitchell, a Canadian musician, is one of only two women to have made it on >to Rolling Stone magazinebs 100 Greatest Guitarists of all time, received >eight Grammys and a Grammy Lifetime Achievement Award. >The musicians promise to draw on their own emotional response to >Mitchellbs work as they reproduce the starbs hits. >Jonibs Soul; Half Moon Putney; Sunday, July 20, 8.30pm to 11pm; B#8 >advance/B#10 on the door; halfmoon.co.uk/event/1204. >------------------------------------------------------------ >The information transmitted is intended only for the person >or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >proprietary, business- confidential and/or privileged material. >If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are >hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, >distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon >this message is prohibited. 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