From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #202 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, June 13 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 202 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Your notches, liberation doll [Shari ] Re: Alternative Hissing ? ["johnnybgoode@lineone.net" ] Re: Your notches, liberation doll ["Mark" ] Re: Alternative Hissing ? [Jamie Zubairi Home ] Re: 'Hejira' Live at Carlsbad,Robin Adler and the Mutts of the Planet, June 1st. ["Susan E. McNamara" ] California [LC Stanley ] Re: Your notches, liberation doll [Anne Sandstrom ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 14:32:30 -0700 From: Shari Subject: Your notches, liberation doll Suddenly I understood that to mean 'you are driving me to drink' Referring to the roomful of glasses as the notches in her belt. AKA the beating he's taken from struggling with the question of women gaining power. Thoughts? Lots of Joni, Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:01:08 +0100 (BST) From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" Subject: Re: Alternative Hissing ? Randy, I think many listers have this, and nowadays it should be possible to e-mail it over in wave files. I'll look for mine. John >----Original Message---- >From: guitarzan05@gmail.com >Date: 12/06/2014 05:44 >To: "Joni" >Subj: Alternative Hissing ? > >So I was listening to the local radio station, and this particular DJ often >plays unreleased tracks by various artists. He played an alternative >take of THOSL. This was a fully realized studio version, with background >vocals and all, very much like the album version, but a different take, >and Joni's vocal had a different feel to it, beautiful. I called the guy up >to ask where he got it, and he was not really helpful, just saying it was >an alternate take (uh, yeah) and that he had had it for years but didn't >know where it came from. >Do we have this? Anyone? Expiring minds want to know. >RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 21:23:29 +0100 (BST) From: Vincenzo Mancini Subject: The HOSL demos Most of the songs can be found on youtube by searching the hissing demos; f.i.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8_tKvkmQLA Vincenzo Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2014 22:44:28 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Alternative Hissing ? So I was listening to the local radio station, and this particular DJ often plays unreleased tracks by various artists. He played an alternative take of THOSL. This was a fully realized studio version, with background vocals and all, very much like the album version, but a different take, and Joni's vocal had a different feel to it, beautiful. I called the guy up to ask where he got it, and he was not really helpful, just saying it was an alternate take (uh, yeah) and that he had had it for years but didn't know where it came from. Do we have this? Anyone? Expiring minds want to know. RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 18:19:45 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Your notches, liberation doll Shari, I've been saying this for years. Except for your very well thought out conclusion, "AKA the beating he's taken from struggling with the question of women gaining power." which I think is probably right on target. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Shari Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 2:32 PM To: joni list Subject: Your notches, liberation doll Suddenly I understood that to mean 'you are driving me to drink' Referring to the roomful of glasses as the notches in her belt. AKA the beating he's taken from struggling with the question of women gaining power. Thoughts? Lots of Joni, Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 08:35:38 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi Home Subject: Re: Alternative Hissing ? An alternate take as opposed to the demo versions that have been kicking around? Cool! Jamie Zubairi Actor, Voiceover, Painter, Photographer. Agent: Byron's Management 020 72428096 SpotLight Showreel Unbroken Line Jamie Zubairi is Associate Artist at Ovalhouse working on new works for 2014 Current exhibition *WaterPlus Colour* at Blend Cafe 587 Green Lanes, N8 0RG until 27 June Recent work: *Cucumber* for Channel 4, by Russell T Davies due Jan 2015 *Tino Sehgal Unilever Commission "These Associations"* Tate Modern (Turner Prize Nominated) *Unbroken Line*' OvalHouse, supported by public funding from the Arts Council of England. On 12 June 2014 08:01, johnnybgoode@lineone.net wrote: > Randy, > > I think many listers have this, and nowadays it should be > possible to e-mail it over in wave files. I'll look for mine. > > John > > > >----Original Message---- > >From: guitarzan05@gmail.com > >Date: > 12/06/2014 05:44 > >To: "Joni" > >Subj: Alternative Hissing > ? > > > >So I was listening to the local radio station, and this particular > DJ often > >plays unreleased tracks by various artists. He played an > alternative > >take of THOSL. This was a fully realized studio version, > with background > >vocals and all, very much like the album version, but > a different take, > >and Joni's vocal had a different feel to it, > beautiful. I called the guy up > >to ask where he got it, and he was not > really helpful, just saying it was > >an alternate take (uh, yeah) and > that he had had it for years but didn't > >know where it came from. > >Do > we have this? Anyone? Expiring minds want to know. > >RR ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 23:41:32 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: Re: 'Hejira' Live at Carlsbad,Robin Adler and the Mutts of the Planet, June 1st. Hi Anita, I finally got the chance to sit down and read your wonderful report of the Carlsbad Jonifest I could just feel all the emotion your wrote about, because I know how wonderful this event was, even though I couldn9t be there. I was so happy to be at the gig in New Orleans last October where Dave and Robin played at that smokey bar So thrilling!! Did they play Dawntreader for you during your time there? So beautiful I think that Dave and Robin should do Song to a Seagull next just an idea! Thanks again Anita for taking the time to write and let us know, through your eyes and ears, how special the Mutts of the Planet performance of Hejira was for you. Can9t wait for the DVD! Love Sue On 6/9/14, 12:22 PM, "Anita G" wrote: >It's 8771 kilometres, 5450 miles or 4736 nautical miles to travel from >nearby Milton Keynes to far away San Diego. Every inch we travelled from >our UK home to Carlsbad in Southern California was worthwhile to witness >Robin Adler, Dave Blackburn and the Mutts of the Planet perform the >extraordinary feat of playing 'Hejira' in its entirety. The compact >Carlsbad Theatre, which seats 300, was perfect for the occasion. I >couldn't >see any empty seats. Steph and I sat about two thirds back, as centrally >as >possible to get the best location for the stereo sound and, at last, I was >able to meet several JMDLers I had never met before and reacquaint myself >with others. I was absolutely thrilled to be there! > >Five o' clock arrived and Dave Blackburn came on stage and talked about >'Hejira' in the context of Joni's career and events in her life around >that >time. I thought this worked really well and, when Dave called the band and >Robin onstage, the crowd hushed and expectancy hung in the air b? so, >unfortunately, did some kind of hum that was coming through the pa system. >I felt for Dave in that moment as one of the band members said 'The hum is >back'. I could imagine all the time and effort that, earlier in the day, >would have gone in to tracing some tiny electrical imbalance or earth that >just wasn't quite leaping some synapse or other. Knowing how much Dave >seeks perfection in all things musical, the band started to checked their >leads and pedals, looking about and hoping one wiggle or other would shut >the hum up. It was a tense moment and I hoped frustration wouldn't get the >better of them. > >When Robin finally said 'Let's go', I, along with many others, breathed >out. We were off! Thankfully, the hum was inaudible live as the 'Coyote' >riff kicked in. The sound balance was just brilliant. Every instrument >from >the bass drum upwards was balanced and in sync b? and when Robin came in >with 'No regrets, coyote' her voice was clear, clean and sitting perfectly >on top of the band. It was delightful. > >Robin was resplendent in white with a long short sleeved orange over >jacket >and matching orange shoes. Orange seemed the perfect choice of colour in >chakra terms, being the colour of the sacral chakra which helps people >express emotions without being overly emotional b? just what was needed to >sing all the songs from 'Hejira'. If you believe in such things as >chakras, >the orange may have supported Robin when she untypically muffed a couple >of >words in 'Furry Sings the Blues', but that girl just got back on that >horse >and came back really strongly on 'Strange Boy'. But it was 'Hejira' when >everyone took off, almost as though they were unleashed. It was simply >astonishing. > >Dave played the dark Hejira riff solidly and cleanly over Danny Campbell's >expressive and subtle drums and when Kevin Hennessy's broody bass entered >the equation, I knew we were into something special. And I was right. >Robin >ripped into every word, bringing new meaning and depth to the poetry, >whilst sitting underneath, quietly and adding texture to the song was the >electric guitar of Jamie Kime. Slowly and quietly, Kime's guitar began to >climb up in the mix, vividly expressing granite markers, waxy candles and >mortality with an overwhelming urgency that began screaming by the end. >Applause at the end of his wonderful solo killed any chance I had of >hearing how the band resolved into the moody ending that emerged, but I >could understand the crowd's enthusiasm for his playing. It was simply >stunning. > >'Song for Sharon' saw the addition of three backing vocalists, Sheryl >Goodman, Mo Mullins, Lisa Hightower, who were wonderfully adept and, >again, >I marvelled at the sound balance. Their vocals sat exactly where they >should and no-one seemed to be straining. 'Black Crow' followed and was my >second favourite of the afternoon, with the band winding up as they had in >'Hejira' and Robin allowing herself to do some scatting of which I would >have welcomed more! 'Blue Motel Room' was Paz's favourite, saying that he >was particularly taken by Dave's guitar style on the song. It was horrible >when 'Refuge of the Roads' was being played, simply because the gig was >almost over, but reach the end we did. > >As the last notes faded, the audience leapt as one to its feet and clapped >and cheered. An encore or two was inevitable. An unexpected medley from >'Court and Spark' was greeted ecstatically by the crowd and even more loud >cheers meant that the band had to perform another song. I personally was >delighted when Robin said that she'd like to have another at 'Furry.' >Harmonica player Jeffrey Joe came back on stage. I had goose bumps second >time around as Jeffrey's reverbed and tasteful harmonica brough old Beale >Street echoing in from the past. This gave Robin, Dave and the Mutts the >cover of the song in the way they truly wanted and the way the song >deserves. The whole event was a triumph. > >I feel it's highly unlikely I will ever have the chance to witness one of >my favourite albums of all time delivered in such a unique way, with >musicality, competence, passion, feel and heart. I felt so proud that, >through JMDL, I know the people who have brought this all together and, I >have to say, a week after the event, I am still marvelling at the >achievement. Simply stunning.Somehow, the next day, Robin cooked all us >JMDlers and their assorted musician friends a lasagne at her and Dave's >house. We sat all day playing and singing music. I looked around the porch >at one point and felt so grateful to have had the chance to be part of >such >an extraordinary and wonderful occasion. Along with 'thanks', the word >'privilege' still keeps crossing my mind. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 09:38:13 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Alternative Hissing ? Am 12.06.2014 07:44, Wie Randy Remote so vortrefflich formulierte: > Do we have this? Anyone? Expiring minds want to know. http://100greatestbootlegs.blogspot.de/2014/02/joni-mitchell-hissing-of-summer-lawns.html "Thanks to Les Irvin webmaster at Joni Mitchell Discussion List for the FILES and for good trading and conversation." Download link: http://netkups.com/?d=2157e40697fdb size:214.34 MB file package password: joniupgrade format: FLAC moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2014 22:00:48 -0700 (PDT) From: LC Stanley Subject: California For all you who take me as I am and for those of you who were just there: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q4foLKDlcE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 00:31:41 +0000 (UTC) From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Re: Your notches, liberation doll At first I groaned when I saw the subject. But then I decided to start doing a little research. Joni doesn't say things idly. I wondered about "Ethiopian wall." Enter the city known as Harar. It's a walled city in Ethiopia. According to http://joshuaproject.net/people_groups/12063/ET, "Women make up a solid force in Harari culture. Unlike the women of many other Muslims cultures, the Harari women lead vigorous and visible-although separate-social lives. They are not required to wear the traditional Muslim veil." Do you suppose Joni was referring to the women of Harar, albeit obliquely? Looking at the references to drinking later in the song, I do think the "room full of glasses" refers to drinking - but I'm thinking it's HER drinking. (I'm thinking of the scene in Raiders of the Lost Ark where Marian drinks all the guys under the table. Although HOSL predates Raiders by 6 years.) He says "A roomful of glasses. Your notches, liberation doll." But then he chains her with a serpent (sex and/or guilt for sin?) to the Ethiopian wall. The other thought I've had is that this is an obscure reference of some kind. If I could meet Joni, I think it's the one thing I'd ask. What does "your notches, liberation doll" refer to? lots of love,Anne on Jun 12, 2014, Shari wrote: Suddenly I understood that to mean 'you are driving me to drink' Referring to the roomful of glasses as the notches in her belt. AKA the beating he's taken from struggling with the question of women gaining power. Thoughts? Lots of Joni, Shari ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #202 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe