From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #195 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, June 6 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 195 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Two Grey Rooms [LC Stanley ] Night Ride Home [LC Stanley ] poetic licence [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] Re: Joni' daughter ["johnnybgoode@lineone.net" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 05:23:37 -0700 (PDT) From: LC Stanley Subject: Two Grey Rooms Isn't this marvelous?! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjDi_plwi5A ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 05:36:19 -0700 (PDT) From: LC Stanley Subject: Night Ride Home Here's another one! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlCVJ1Adewg ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2014 05:17:41 +0200 From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: poetic licence Yes, sorry, Bob, I just got the name wrong in my haste. I know that she married Chuck Mitchell and not Brad. I suppose it is mostly strange to me that the opening words to that song is "Born with the Moon in Cancer", and that they set and create such an atmosphere, and that they should merely be poetic license. There is also a newspaper article appearing where it states that Joni Mitchell 'had the baby at 19": even if she only fell pregnant at that age, it wouldn't have carried the baby until she was over 21, in February 1965. I also thought, but may be wrong, that she fell pregnant at art school, in 1963, at the end of the year.....and that she left art school shortly before or thereafter. Anyway, just some inconsistencies....perhaps it is in the reporting, and a reflection of the mystery. I'd like to discuss "Don't interrupts the sorrow", if someone will go first! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 19:53:09 +0100 (BST) From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" Subject: Re: Joni' daughter Ingrid, It may well be that the lyrics to Little Green contain some poetic licence. A tragic story for both of them. The alternative birthday sounds credible though, but why bother, as any assessment of child development could be skewed. An interesting point to consider though definitely. The idea of having an actor to play people in her personal life has set off my imagination though, in a surreal way. Many of her boyfriends could have been replaced with actors without addictions, or more prosiac bad habits. Against this the classic songs would have had less angst. The cost of hiring them would have been cheaper than the drug habits of the originals by far:-) John >---- Original Message---- >From: low-tide@outlook.com >Date: 03/06/2014 15: 19 >To: "joni@smoe.org" >Subj: Joni' daughter > >She has said that her birthday is on the 19th of February and that there were >no photographs of her before the age of 8 months, supposing there were some >since then. She has also said that Joni gave her daughter up for adoption in >1965 at that age, so this rules out a birth on the 19th Febuary 1964. She was >born in Toronto. On the 19th February 1965 the moon was nowhere near Cancer. > >Perhaps Kilauren took some birthday given to her by her adoptive parents? Or >perhaps Joni got sick and tired of being contacted by all and sundry claiming >and wanting to be her daughter, and then made an arrangement with Kilauren, >who had been a model, to pose as her daughter so that she could continue her >search in private. > >I suppose this sounds slightly disrespectful, but it is worth taking note of: >no moon in Cancer on Kilauren's birthday. Or perhaps the moon was new when >Kilauren was born in June of the preceding year , 8 months prior to >February, so that she was born with the moon (the new moon) , in Cancer, since >there ? "Moons, and Junes, and ....." ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #195 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe