From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #194 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, June 5 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 194 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Joni' daughter & Look-A-Like Grandkids [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] RE: Joni' daughter & Look-A-Like Grandkids [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Joni' daughter [Ingrid Lochrenberg ] RE: Joni' daughter & Look-A-Like Grandkids ["Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Joni' daughter & Look-A-Like Grandkids For sure they might seem to resemble their grandparents, but people see such different things in faces. I mean, Taylor Swift was said, here on JMDL, to 'look' like Joni. When I look at Kilauren I don't see the spark that Joni has...particularly around here eyes. I think one could get a million blonde models who look like Joni (even if they don't look like a gypsy dancer). My point was merely that she doesn't have the moon anywhere near Cancer...so I have also thought if Joni meant: "borne (not born) with the moon, in Cancer...since she married Brad in June and soon after had to give up her daughter. Just another thought. I find Joni's words quite revealing of stuff that never get discussed. > Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 08:25:13 -0500 > From: aptakisic101@gmail.com > To: joni@smoe.org; low-tide@outlook.com > Subject: Joni' daughter & Look-A-Like Grandkids > > Ingrid, > > When I see pictures of Joni's grandkids I can't help but wonder if when Kilauren > looks at her children she sees both of her parents. To me Marlin looks SO much > like Brad and Daisy looks SO much like Joni I wouldn't even ask for DNA proof! > It's quite amazing and makes one appreciate the intricacy of the genes we carry. > > Anyone else notice the striking resemblences?? > > Laura > > ******************************** > > > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 17:19:20 +0200 > From: Ingrid Lochrenberg > Subject: Joni' daughter > > She has said that her birthday is on the 19th of February and that there were > no photographs of her before the age of 8 months, supposing there were some > since then. She has also said that Joni gave her daughter up for adoption in > 1965 at that age, so this rules out a birth on the 19th Febuary 1964. She was > born in Toronto. On the 19th February 1965 the moon was nowhere near Cancer. > > Perhaps Kilauren took some birthday given to her by her adoptive parents? Or > perhaps Joni got sick and tired of being contacted by all and sundry claiming > and wanting to be her daughter, and then made an arrangement with Kilauren, > who had been a model, to pose as her daughter so that she could continue her > search in private. > > I suppose this sounds slightly disrespectful, but it is worth taking note of: > no moon in Cancer on Kilauren's birthday. Or perhaps the moon was new when > Kilauren was born in June of the preceding year , 8 months prior to > February, so that she was born with the moon (the new moon) , in Cancer, since > there ? "Moons, and Junes, and ....." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 11:20:43 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: New Library item: Shadows & Light I mostly agree with this review of Complete So Far. I have been working with this book since I bought it about two months ago and despite the fact that those who are frequent users of the JM.com database may already know a lot of these songs, this book does give a pretty accurate "start" for learning Joni's guitar style. As a devotee of "how Joni plays it" I have had situations where there was a chord off or something missing with a tab in this book, but all the tunings seem correct and having it all there on my music stand has been extremely convenient for someone who plays Joni every day. When I wake up in the morning, I make coffee, watch the news while I knit for about an hour, and then spend about 45 minutes playing Joni until I jump in the shower. Every day!! :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email:B sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 7:24 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: New Library item: Shadows & Light Title: Shadows & Light Publication: Acoustic Guitar (Magazine) Date: 2014.6.0 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2792 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2014 08:25:13 -0500 From: Laura O Subject: Joni' daughter & Look-A-Like Grandkids Ingrid, When I see pictures of Joni's grandkids I can't help but wonder if when Kilauren looks at her children she sees both of her parents. To me Marlin looks SO much like Brad and Daisy looks SO much like Joni I wouldn't even ask for DNA proof! It's quite amazing and makes one appreciate the intricacy of the genes we carry. Anyone else notice the striking resemblences?? Laura ******************************** Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 17:19:20 +0200 From: Ingrid Lochrenberg Subject: Joni' daughter She has said that her birthday is on the 19th of February and that there were no photographs of her before the age of 8 months, supposing there were some since then. She has also said that Joni gave her daughter up for adoption in 1965 at that age, so this rules out a birth on the 19th Febuary 1964. She was born in Toronto. On the 19th February 1965 the moon was nowhere near Cancer. Perhaps Kilauren took some birthday given to her by her adoptive parents? Or perhaps Joni got sick and tired of being contacted by all and sundry claiming and wanting to be her daughter, and then made an arrangement with Kilauren, who had been a model, to pose as her daughter so that she could continue her search in private. I suppose this sounds slightly disrespectful, but it is worth taking note of: no moon in Cancer on Kilauren's birthday. Or perhaps the moon was new when Kilauren was born in June of the preceding year , 8 months prior to February, so that she was born with the moon (the new moon) , in Cancer, since there ? "Moons, and Junes, and ....." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 10:35:04 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: Joni' daughter & Look-A-Like Grandkids since she married Brad in June and soon after had to give up her daughter.> She never married Brad McMath...perhaps you have him mixed up with Chuck Mitchell? I believe that he went to California, hearing that everything was warmer there. Bob NP: The Dead Weather, "Rough Detective" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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On the 19th February 1965 the moon was nowhere near Cancer. Perhaps Kilauren took some birthday given to her by her adoptive parents? Or perhaps Joni got sick and tired of being contacted by all and sundry claiming and wanting to be her daughter, and then made an arrangement with Kilauren, who had been a model, to pose as her daughter so that she could continue her search in private. I suppose this sounds slightly disrespectful, but it is worth taking note of: no moon in Cancer on Kilauren's birthday. Or perhaps the moon was new when Kilauren was born in June of the preceding year , 8 months prior to February, so that she was born with the moon (the new moon) , in Cancer, since there ? "Moons, and Junes, and ....." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 14:35:01 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Joni' daughter & Look-A-Like Grandkids When I was working on the website with Wally Breese in 1997, we received an email from Kilauren's boyfriend, which Wally then substantiated with several biographical indicators that Kilauren provided. He then sent the emails to Joni's management. Within a couple of weeks, Kilauren met Joni in LA and all joy broke loose. Joni had photos of Kilauren from before the adoption and Kilauren had baby pictures which she matched with Joni's ... Kilauren also had information from her adoption papers (which were released when she was 30) that matched with Joni. I think at this point everyone agrees that Kilauren is Joni's natural daughter. Joni never married Brad McMath ... they were dating during art school ... and the story is that since Brad did not support Joni after she told him she was pregnant, so she decided to give Kilauren up for adoption, because she was very poor. At the time she was playing ukulele in coffee houses and working in a department store. She later married Chuck Mitchell. Pictures, likenesses, and horoscopes aside, I think if Joni believes and knows that Kilauren is her daughter, that's good enough for me. :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Ingrid Lochrenberg Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 10:06 AM To: Laura O; joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: Joni' daughter & Look-A-Like Grandkids For sure they might seem to resemble their grandparents, but people see such different things in faces. I mean, Taylor Swift was said, here on JMDL, to 'look' like Joni. When I look at Kilauren I don't see the spark that Joni has...particularly around here eyes. I think one could get a million blonde models who look like Joni (even if they don't look like a gypsy dancer). My point was merely that she doesn't have the moon anywhere near Cancer...so I have also thought if Joni meant: "borne (not born) with the moon, in Cancer...since she married Brad in June and soon after had to give up her daughter. Just another thought. I find Joni's words quite revealing of stuff that never get discussed. > Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 08:25:13 -0500 > From: aptakisic101@gmail.com > To: joni@smoe.org; low-tide@outlook.com > Subject: Joni' daughter & Look-A-Like Grandkids > > Ingrid, > > When I see pictures of Joni's grandkids I can't help but wonder if > when Kilauren > looks at her children she sees both of her parents. To me Marlin > looks SO much > like Brad and Daisy looks SO much like Joni I wouldn't even ask for > DNA proof! > It's quite amazing and makes one appreciate the intricacy of the genes > we carry. > > Anyone else notice the striking resemblences?? > > Laura > > ******************************** > > > Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 17:19:20 +0200 > From: Ingrid Lochrenberg > Subject: Joni' daughter > > She has said that her birthday is on the 19th of February and that > there were > no photographs of her before the age of 8 months, supposing there were > some since then. She has also said that Joni gave her daughter up for > adoption in > 1965 at that age, so this rules out a birth on the 19th Febuary 1964. > She was > born in Toronto. On the 19th February 1965 the moon was nowhere near Cancer. > > Perhaps Kilauren took some birthday given to her by her adoptive parents? Or > perhaps Joni got sick and tired of being contacted by all and sundry claiming > and wanting to be her daughter, and then made an arrangement with > Kilauren, who had been a model, to pose as her daughter so that she > could continue her > search in private. > > I suppose this sounds slightly disrespectful, but it is worth taking > note of: > no moon in Cancer on Kilauren's birthday. Or perhaps the moon was new > when Kilauren was born in June of the preceding year , 8 months > prior to February, so that she was born with the moon (the new moon) , > in Cancer, since > there ? "Moons, and Junes, and ....." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2014 11:12:30 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IE5ldyBMaWJyYXJ5IGl0ZW06IEpvbmkgTWl0Y2hlbGw6IOKAm A==?= =?UTF-8?B?UHJlYWNoaW5nIFBsYXRpdHVkZXMgdG8gdGhlIENvbnZlcnRlZOKAmQ==?= LOL, methinks the reviewer was a bit too highbrow for this show. Bob NP: Joe Henry, "Swayed" From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com To: joni@smoe.org, Date: 06/03/2014 10:56 AM Subject: New Library item: Joni Mitchell: ?Preaching Platitudes to the Converted? Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Title: Joni Mitchell: bPreaching Platitudes to the Convertedb Publication: New York Herald Tribune Date: 1970.1.19 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2793 - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 20:40:31 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: Joni' daughter & Look-A-Like Grandkids > Anyone else notice the striking resemblences?? I haven't seen a photo of Marlin in a while, but YES on Daisy. She looks like a miniature Joni. Lori ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #194 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe