From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #184 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, May 27 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 184 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: vocal range ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: vocal range [Laurie Antonioli ] Re: vocal ranges [Jamie Zubairi Home ] Re: vocal range [Catherine McKay ] Re: vocal range [Dave Blackburn ] Re: AUTO: Donald R. Barthel/111527/EKC is out of the office. (returning 06/02/2014) [Anita Tedder ] Re: vocal ranges [Michael Paz ] New Library item: BREAKING NEWS [TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com] Covers 189 - New link [Bob Muller ] Re: New Library item: Joni Mitchell at Massey Hall in Toronto, reviewed [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 14:48:42 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: vocal range This is true too if you listen to the older tapes from her cafi days. While she was writing some of her classics, Chelsea Morning, Conversation, Both Sides Now, she didn't capo the guitar at all and sang them in a lower register. When she recorded them later, the capos went up the fret board to accommodate her higher range. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dave Blackburn Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 3:38 PM To: Laurie Antonioli Cc: JMDL JMDL; joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: Re: vocal range One interesting point to mention is that Jonis voice never was naturally a soprano (despite the Rainy Night House lyric). Her voice on the first two albums is agile and youthful but not yet helium, an effect she adopted really only on Ladies of the Canyon, and then subsequently abandoned. Listen to I Had a King or Tin Angel for example for how alto she sang before LOTC or All I Want after it. On May 26, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Laurie Antonioli wrote: > Thanks, Dave. Vocal range is really an uninteresting topic unless you're into acrobatics. An important person that was left off that list was Bobby McFerrin - his vocal range is one that he uses in the most creative ways, singing bass lines while also singing melodies - at the same time - and his range allows this remarkable feat. > > I agree with what others say on this topic here in this discussion group - this is a sophisticated group of listeners - I'm afraid the "general public" is less so. I love the term "helium days" describing Joni's young voice - and thanks again, Dave, for all the work you've done transcribing and researching Joni - very valuable information on one of the most important artists of the 20th century!! > > Laurie > > > On ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 11:07:55 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: vocal range Thanks, Dave. Vocal range is really an uninteresting topic unless you're into acrobatics. An important person that was left off that list was Bobby McFerrin - his vocal range is one that he uses in the most creative ways, singing bass lines while also singing melodies - at the same time - and his range allows this remarkable feat. I agree with what others say on this topic here in this discussion group - this is a sophisticated group of listeners - I'm afraid the "general public" is less so. I love the term "helium days" describing Joni's young voice - and thanks again, Dave, for all the work you've done transcribing and researching Joni - very valuable information on one of the most important artists of the 20th century!! Laurie On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Laurie, > > It might be cheating to talk about a big range over the course of your > lifetime (but not at any one time!) When we were screaming infants to grown > men singing baritone for example is a pretty big pitch range. Then you have > to kind of filter out bpossibleb notes from busefulb notes; most of us can > grumble into our chest and shriek when you find a tarantula in your shoe > but those extremes are not that musically useful unless you have a punk > band! > > In her helium days Joni could comfortably hit A above A above middle C and > in her last orchestra recordings she would sing down to about E below > middle C, so thatbs about two and a half octaves of controlled pitch, but > over the course of thirty years. Thatbs pretty good. Whatever that silly > article claims, most decent singers have under two octaves of useful > musical range. The Stars and Stripes anthem has a range of a 12th (an > octave plus a fifth) and it is famously hard to sing as you have so little > wiggle room as to key. > > Having more pitch range of course does not make you a better singer, as we > all know. More emotional range does. > > Dave > > > > On May 24, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Laurie Antonioli > wrote: > > > Re: the vocal range thing - I think someone like Dave Blackburn could > step > > in and let us know - I don't know for sure, but, Joni's range from her > > early years to the later was really significant. Dave...some of those > > background things she sang were sky high, weren't they? You've done so > > much transcribing you surely know her range from top to bottom. > > > > Laurie > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 1:08 PM, JMDL Digest >wrote: > > > >> > >> JMDL Digest Saturday, May 24 2014 Volume 2014 : Number > >> 778 > >> > >> > >> > >> ========== > >> > >> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > >> -------- > >> Re: vocal ranges [Corey Blake < > >> coreyblake@gmail.com>] > >> vocal ranges ["ron" < > >> rong@mweb.co.za>] > >> Joni Covers, Volume 189 [Bob Muller < > >> scjoniguy@yahoo.com>] > >> Re: vocal ranges ["johnnybgoode@lineone.net" < > >> johnnybgoode@lineone.net>] > >> Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #777 [SusanBTaylorBand < > >> susanbtaylorband@prodigy.ne] > >> Re: Tori Amos River (live) May 8th [Betsy Blue < > >> betsyblue82@gmail.com>] > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 12:06:10 -0700 > >> From: Corey Blake > >> Subject: Re: vocal ranges > >> > >> I saw that too and have been meaning to post it here. I m curious what > >> some of the more musically-inclined think of this. Is this right? I > thought > >> it should be a wider range, considering how high she sang in the very > early > >> days compared to her most recent work. But maybe not. > >> > >> > >> On May 24, 2014, at 8:38 AM, ron wrote: > >> > >>> I came across this site on another forum. > >>> > >>> http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges > >>> > >>> purports to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a > little > >>> surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared > to > >>> some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) > >>> > >>> > >>> ron > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 17:38:33 +0200 > >> From: "ron" > >> Subject: vocal ranges > >> > >> I came across this site on another forum. > >> > >> http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges > >> > >> purports to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a little > >> surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared to > >> some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) > >> > >> > >> ron > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 07:07:21 -0700 (PDT) > >> From: Bob Muller > >> Subject: Joni Covers, Volume 189 > >> > >> Howdy all, and Happy Memorial Day weekend to those of us in the USA. Got > >> another NEW batch of covers to lay on y'all today...most of these are > from > >> 2011-12 with the oldest being from the 2002 Steve Klink and Rachel Z > >> tributes. > >> And speaking of Steve Klink, this volume kicks off with his instrumental > >> version of "Cotton Avenue" which is incidentally the only one so far > that > >> I'm > >> aware of. > >> > >> 189 also features a nice mini-set from Florencia Otero - she's got > >> a great voice and has a fine band backing her up and contributing some > >> lovely > >> solos. We also get a cover of "The Arrangement" which is another one we > >> don't > >> hear very often. Kevin Sandbloom gives us another of his covers from his > >> Blue > >> tribute. I love his voice and the twist he puts on these songs. Marge > >> Weber, > >> not so much. Many other tasty nuggets to be found in this sampler. > >> > >> Zzip it! > >> http://ow.ly/xdB85 > >> > >> 1. Steve Klink - Cotton Avenue > >> 2. Mary Jane Alm - A Case > >> of You > >> 3. Leila Thigpen - Both Sides Now > >> 4. Florencia Otero - I Had A King > >> 5. > >> Florencia Otero - River > >> 6. Florencia Otero - Little Green > >> 7. Florencia Otero - > >> A Case Of You > >> 8. The Redbird Duo - Circle Game > >> 9. Will Taylor & Strings > >> Attached - Chelsea Morning > >> 10. Kamilla Kovacks - All I Want > >> 11. Nereide - The > >> Arrangement > >> 12. Sally Barker - Real Good For Free > >> 13. Lissa Schneckenburger - > >> River > >> 14. Elisa Peimer, Jon Sobel - Little Green > >> 15. Keiko Utoku - Both Sides > >> Now > >> 16. Rachel Z Trio - Big Yellow Taxi > >> 17. Kevin Sandbloom - A Case Of You > >> 18. Marge Weber - The Circle Game > >> > >> 18 songs, 18 hits - enjoy. > >> > >> Bob > >> > >> NP: > >> Florencia Otero, "A Case Of You" > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 21:08:06 +0100 (BST) > >> From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" > >> Subject: Re: vocal ranges > >> > >> Ron, > >> > >> This sounds ridiculous Mariah and Whitney not at the Top Lennon > >> similar to McCartney Winwood and Elton John not the highest males. > >> > >> > >> Idon't believe it. > >> > >> John > >> > >>> ----Original Message---- > >>> From: rong@mweb.co. > >> za > >>> Date: 24/05/2014 15:38 > >>> To: "JMDL JMDL" > >>> Subj: vocal > >> ranges > >>> > >>> I came across this site on another forum. > >>> > >>> http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges> > >>> purports > >> to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a little > >> > >>> surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared > >> to > >>> some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) > >>> > >>> > >>> ron > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 08:22:25 -0500 > >> From: SusanBTaylorBand > >> Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #777 > >> > >> After watching the MuchMusic Intimate and Interactive video presented > here > >> a few days ago by another Digest member, Joni stated in the video that > she > >> had about two years of piano lessons, said something about getting > through > >> the second grade book, so she did have music training - and most likely > >> learned theory and sight reading. If it was a course like John Thompson > >> (very popular in that era) then the second grade book affords a lot of > >> theory and sight reading opportunities. > >> > >> Susan > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >>> On May 24, 2014, at 2:00 AM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> JMDL Digest Saturday, May 24 2014 Volume 2014 : > Number > >> 777 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ========== > >>> > >>> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > >>> -------- > >>> Re: The Last Waltz (alternate b/w recording) [" > >> johnnybgoode@lineone.net" ] > >>> Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #172 [Paul Ivice < > >> ivpaul42@aol.com>] > >>> > >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > >>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 21:53:20 +0100 (BST) > >>> From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" > >>> Subject: Re: The Last Waltz (alternate b/w recording) > >>> > >>> Monica, > >>> > >>> Many thanks for posting this.I love the Shadows & Light Jam. > >>> The two drummers and Garth and Robbie's contributions, wow, you don't > >>> need the fretless bass. > >>> > >>> John > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 15:32:26 -0400 (EDT) > >>> From: Paul Ivice > >>> Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #172 > >>> > >>> And then there was Vari-speed, a control on analog tape machines that > >> adjusted > >>> the motor speed by small amounts. Before digital recording it was > common > >>> practice to slow the tape machine a little for extra fatness on a track > >> or > >>> speed > >>> it up a little for extra pep, without regard for the poor student > trying > >> to > >>> play > >>> along to it. The A440 reference, then, has been disregarded many many > >> times > >>> since it was adopted. Those who cite 432Hz as a better pitch reference > >> are in > >>> fact hearing a little more fulness and low end than if the same music > is > >>> played > >>> at A440; I dont think theres anything celestial, spiritual or political > >>> whatsoever going on, though we love a good mystery when science is > >> involved! > >>> > >>> Remember that all this discussion is about a woman who cannot or does > >> not read > >>> music,so some of the things being discussed about Joni ascribe to her > >> much > >>> more careful thought than the instinct I believe she relies on for most > >> of > >>> these decisions. > >>> > >>> > >>> Paul Ivice ;>) > >>> > >>> ------------------------------ > >>> > >>> End of JMDL Digest V2014 #777 > >>> ***************************** > >>> > >>> ------- > >>> To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > >>> Unsubscribe by clicking here: > >>> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > >>> ------- > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 15:05:51 -0700 > >> From: Betsy Blue > >> Subject: Re: Tori Amos River (live) May 8th > >> > >> River was on the set list (Berlin) again today. > >> On May 19, 2014 1:03 PM, "Betsy Blue" wrote: > >> > >>> Here's the link to Tori singing River. If you click directly on the > River > >>> play button, you get an older version with video. The new audio is with > >> the > >>> I Knew You Were Trouble play button and starts at 40:45 into that > video. > >>> > >>> http://bit.ly/1kiMEtv > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> End of JMDL Digest V2014 #778 > >> ***************************** > >> > >> ------- > >> To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > >> Unsubscribe by clicking here: > >> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > >> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 May 2014 15:34:48 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi Home Subject: Re: vocal ranges "flageolet register"? Little Bean? On 24 May 2014 17:06, "ron" wrote: > I came across this site on another forum. > > http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges > > purports to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a little > surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared to > some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) > > > ron ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 14:22:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: vocal range Amen to that. I can't stand the really high-pitched shrieking that people like Mariah Carey do. To me, that's just vocal acrobatics and maybe it's good vocal exercise (or maybe not) but it hurts my sensitive, shell-like ears. Maybe it's the fact that I'm part dog, I dunno, but make it go awaaaaayyyy! I'd rather hear Joni with the limited vocal range she has now rasping* out "Furry sings the blues," as she did at Luminato, than hear Mariah Carey do just about anything. But hey, that's just me! *In case anyone's going for the flame-throwers, it wasn't a rasp at all, but Ms Mitchell says she can't sing anymore and I get that, and I just like the sound of "rasp." (now playing in my head: a voice like Mercedes McCambridge's Exorcist-demon, singing one of those helium-Joni songs, "Conversation" maybe. Or maybe Jimmy Durante singing "All I want.") > > Having more pitch range of course does not make you a better singer, as we all > know. More emotional range does. > > Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 16:31:19 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: vocal range Laurie, It might be cheating to talk about a big range over the course of your lifetime (but not at any one time!) When we were screaming infants to grown men singing baritone for example is a pretty big pitch range. Then you have to kind of filter out possible notes from useful notes; most of us can grumble into our chest and shriek when you find a tarantula in your shoe but those extremes are not that musically useful unless you have a punk band! In her helium days Joni could comfortably hit A above A above middle C and in her last orchestra recordings she would sing down to about E below middle C, so thats about two and a half octaves of controlled pitch, but over the course of thirty years. Thats pretty good. Whatever that silly article claims, most decent singers have under two octaves of useful musical range. The Stars and Stripes anthem has a range of a 12th (an octave plus a fifth) and it is famously hard to sing as you have so little wiggle room as to key. Having more pitch range of course does not make you a better singer, as we all know. More emotional range does. Dave On May 24, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Laurie Antonioli wrote: > Re: the vocal range thing - I think someone like Dave Blackburn could step > in and let us know - I don't know for sure, but, Joni's range from her > early years to the later was really significant. Dave...some of those > background things she sang were sky high, weren't they? You've done so > much transcribing you surely know her range from top to bottom. > > Laurie > > > > > On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 1:08 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > >> >> JMDL Digest Saturday, May 24 2014 Volume 2014 : Number >> 778 >> >> >> >> ========== >> >> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >> -------- >> Re: vocal ranges [Corey Blake < >> coreyblake@gmail.com>] >> vocal ranges ["ron" < >> rong@mweb.co.za>] >> Joni Covers, Volume 189 [Bob Muller < >> scjoniguy@yahoo.com>] >> Re: vocal ranges ["johnnybgoode@lineone.net" < >> johnnybgoode@lineone.net>] >> Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #777 [SusanBTaylorBand < >> susanbtaylorband@prodigy.ne] >> Re: Tori Amos River (live) May 8th [Betsy Blue < >> betsyblue82@gmail.com>] >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 12:06:10 -0700 >> From: Corey Blake >> Subject: Re: vocal ranges >> >> I saw that too and have been meaning to post it here. I m curious what >> some of the more musically-inclined think of this. Is this right? I thought >> it should be a wider range, considering how high she sang in the very early >> days compared to her most recent work. But maybe not. >> >> >> On May 24, 2014, at 8:38 AM, ron wrote: >> >>> I came across this site on another forum. >>> >>> http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges >>> >>> purports to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a little >>> surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared to >>> some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) >>> >>> >>> ron >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 17:38:33 +0200 >> From: "ron" >> Subject: vocal ranges >> >> I came across this site on another forum. >> >> http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges >> >> purports to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a little >> surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared to >> some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) >> >> >> ron >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 07:07:21 -0700 (PDT) >> From: Bob Muller >> Subject: Joni Covers, Volume 189 >> >> Howdy all, and Happy Memorial Day weekend to those of us in the USA. Got >> another NEW batch of covers to lay on y'all today...most of these are from >> 2011-12 with the oldest being from the 2002 Steve Klink and Rachel Z >> tributes. >> And speaking of Steve Klink, this volume kicks off with his instrumental >> version of "Cotton Avenue" which is incidentally the only one so far that >> I'm >> aware of. >> >> 189 also features a nice mini-set from Florencia Otero - she's got >> a great voice and has a fine band backing her up and contributing some >> lovely >> solos. We also get a cover of "The Arrangement" which is another one we >> don't >> hear very often. Kevin Sandbloom gives us another of his covers from his >> Blue >> tribute. I love his voice and the twist he puts on these songs. Marge >> Weber, >> not so much. Many other tasty nuggets to be found in this sampler. >> >> Zzip it! >> http://ow.ly/xdB85 >> >> 1. Steve Klink - Cotton Avenue >> 2. Mary Jane Alm - A Case >> of You >> 3. Leila Thigpen - Both Sides Now >> 4. Florencia Otero - I Had A King >> 5. >> Florencia Otero - River >> 6. Florencia Otero - Little Green >> 7. Florencia Otero - >> A Case Of You >> 8. The Redbird Duo - Circle Game >> 9. Will Taylor & Strings >> Attached - Chelsea Morning >> 10. Kamilla Kovacks - All I Want >> 11. Nereide - The >> Arrangement >> 12. Sally Barker - Real Good For Free >> 13. Lissa Schneckenburger - >> River >> 14. Elisa Peimer, Jon Sobel - Little Green >> 15. Keiko Utoku - Both Sides >> Now >> 16. Rachel Z Trio - Big Yellow Taxi >> 17. Kevin Sandbloom - A Case Of You >> 18. Marge Weber - The Circle Game >> >> 18 songs, 18 hits - enjoy. >> >> Bob >> >> NP: >> Florencia Otero, "A Case Of You" >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 21:08:06 +0100 (BST) >> From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" >> Subject: Re: vocal ranges >> >> Ron, >> >> This sounds ridiculous Mariah and Whitney not at the Top Lennon >> similar to McCartney Winwood and Elton John not the highest males. >> >> >> Idon't believe it. >> >> John >> >>> ----Original Message---- >>> From: rong@mweb.co. >> za >>> Date: 24/05/2014 15:38 >>> To: "JMDL JMDL" >>> Subj: vocal >> ranges >>> >>> I came across this site on another forum. >>> >>> http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges> >>> purports >> to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a little >> >>> surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared >> to >>> some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) >>> >>> >>> ron >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 08:22:25 -0500 >> From: SusanBTaylorBand >> Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #777 >> >> After watching the MuchMusic Intimate and Interactive video presented here >> a few days ago by another Digest member, Joni stated in the video that she >> had about two years of piano lessons, said something about getting through >> the second grade book, so she did have music training - and most likely >> learned theory and sight reading. If it was a course like John Thompson >> (very popular in that era) then the second grade book affords a lot of >> theory and sight reading opportunities. >> >> Susan >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On May 24, 2014, at 2:00 AM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) >> wrote: >>> >>> >>> JMDL Digest Saturday, May 24 2014 Volume 2014 : Number >> 777 >>> >>> >>> >>> ========== >>> >>> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >>> -------- >>> Re: The Last Waltz (alternate b/w recording) [" >> johnnybgoode@lineone.net" ] >>> Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #172 [Paul Ivice < >> ivpaul42@aol.com>] >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 21:53:20 +0100 (BST) >>> From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" >>> Subject: Re: The Last Waltz (alternate b/w recording) >>> >>> Monica, >>> >>> Many thanks for posting this.I love the Shadows & Light Jam. >>> The two drummers and Garth and Robbie's contributions, wow, you don't >>> need the fretless bass. >>> >>> John >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 15:32:26 -0400 (EDT) >>> From: Paul Ivice >>> Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #172 >>> >>> And then there was Vari-speed, a control on analog tape machines that >> adjusted >>> the motor speed by small amounts. Before digital recording it was common >>> practice to slow the tape machine a little for extra fatness on a track >> or >>> speed >>> it up a little for extra pep, without regard for the poor student trying >> to >>> play >>> along to it. The A440 reference, then, has been disregarded many many >> times >>> since it was adopted. Those who cite 432Hz as a better pitch reference >> are in >>> fact hearing a little more fulness and low end than if the same music is >>> played >>> at A440; I dont think theres anything celestial, spiritual or political >>> whatsoever going on, though we love a good mystery when science is >> involved! >>> >>> Remember that all this discussion is about a woman who cannot or does >> not read >>> music,so some of the things being discussed about Joni ascribe to her >> much >>> more careful thought than the instinct I believe she relies on for most >> of >>> these decisions. >>> >>> >>> Paul Ivice ;>) >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> End of JMDL Digest V2014 #777 >>> ***************************** >>> >>> ------- >>> To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. >>> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >>> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >>> ------- >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 15:05:51 -0700 >> From: Betsy Blue >> Subject: Re: Tori Amos River (live) May 8th >> >> River was on the set list (Berlin) again today. >> On May 19, 2014 1:03 PM, "Betsy Blue" wrote: >> >>> Here's the link to Tori singing River. If you click directly on the River >>> play button, you get an older version with video. The new audio is with >> the >>> I Knew You Were Trouble play button and starts at 40:45 into that video. >>> >>> http://bit.ly/1kiMEtv >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of JMDL Digest V2014 #778 >> ***************************** >> >> ------- >> To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. >> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 19:24:57 -0700 From: Anita Tedder Subject: Re: AUTO: Donald R. Barthel/111527/EKC is out of the office. (returning 06/02/2014) Maybe water them more? Anita x > On 23 May 2014, at 15:37, donald.barthel@kodak.com wrote: > > I am out of the office until 06/02/2014. > > Plant Shutdown. > > > Note: This is an automated response to your message "JMDL Digest V2014 > #771" sent on 5/23/2014 5:54:30 PM. > > This is the only notification you will receive while this person is away. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 15:51:59 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Joni Mitchell at Massey Hall in Toronto, reviewed Title: Joni Mitchell at Massey Hall in Toronto, reviewed Publication: National Post Date: 2013.06.19 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2787 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 21:08:06 +0100 (BST) From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" Subject: Re: vocal ranges Ron, This sounds ridiculous Mariah and Whitney not at the Top Lennon similar to McCartney Winwood and Elton John not the highest males. Idon't believe it. John >----Original Message---- >From: rong@mweb.co. za >Date: 24/05/2014 15:38 >To: "JMDL JMDL" >Subj: vocal ranges > >I came across this site on another forum. > >http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges> >purports to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a little >surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared to >some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) > > >ron ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 21:25:14 +0100 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: vocal ranges Interesting thread. Altho I contest the accuracy. it obviously does not include falsetto but even so I think the vox on somthing like Helter Skelter exceeds the song Money for McCartney (and not being able to get to the piano in Ronnie Scott's where we are tonight) I cannot verify. Paul has one of the most amazing voices in music. Have to look into this one more. Thanks for posting best Paz ( in London with Les Ross and Lieve Reckers) TBQ on stage at the moment playing Time to Spare by Brice Winston On May 24, 2014, at 9:08 PM, johnnybgoode@lineone.net wrote: Ron, This sounds ridiculous Mariah and Whitney not at the Top Lennon similar to McCartney Winwood and Elton John not the highest males. Idon't believe it. John > ----Original Message---- > From: rong@mweb.co. za > Date: 24/05/2014 15:38 > To: "JMDL JMDL" > Subj: vocal ranges > > I came across this site on another forum. > > http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges> > purports to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a little > surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared to > some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) > > > ron ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 16:31:04 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: BREAKING NEWS Title: BREAKING NEWS Publication: juliensauctions.com Date: 2014.05.19 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2788 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 06:06:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Covers 189 - New link So...supposedly the link to 189 crapped out somehow...sigh. If at first you don't succeed... http://ow.ly/xeCwu If you still can't snag it, mail me offlist (or on, really doesn't matter but I realize that most of you prefer to linger in the shadows) and I'll send it directly to you. Yes, I will do that, I'm that nice of a guy. Bob NP: REM, "Romance" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 May 2014 17:31:57 -0700 From: Anita Tedder Subject: Re: New Library item: Joni Mitchell at Massey Hall in Toronto, reviewed Brilliant - brings back all the joy from last year that everyone who made it to the concerts so generously shared. I recall that "Don't Interrupt The Sorrow" was not captured by anyone. Did it ever emerge? Anita x > On 23 May 2014, at 14:51, TheStaff@JoniMitchell.comwrote: > > Title: Joni Mitchell at Massey Hall in Toronto, reviewed > Publication: National Post > Date: 2013.06.19 > > http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2787 ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #184 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe