From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #180 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, May 25 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 180 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #179 [Paul Ivice ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #179 [Paul Ivice ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #780--shootings in CA [BarbaRent7@aol.com] Re: vocal ranges ["Mark" ] Re: vocal range [Catherine McKay ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #777 [SusanBTaylorBand ] Re: vocal range ["Mark" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 03:08:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Ivice Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #179 purports to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a little surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared to some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) Axl Rose may have the widest range on this list, but he sounds lousy at every note. Quantity does not equal quality. Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 03:08:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Ivice Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #179 purports to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a little surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared to some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) Axl Rose may have the widest range on this list, but he sounds lousy at every note. Quantity does not equal quality. Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 11:24:19 -0400 (EDT) From: BarbaRent7@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #780--shootings in CA I agree with you Laura, why wasn't this guy stopped sooner? That'a why I'm getting more agoraphobic and just staying home with my 2,000 record albums and 500 CDs and listening to my Joni music and cleaning my rifle and feeding my six large guard dogs. Our world has turned into a cesspool and Joni's music is all I have to lift me up. Pray for peace and better medications out there, Babs of SoCal ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 14:28:40 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: vocal ranges It looks bogus to me too. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: johnnybgoode@lineone.net Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 1:08 PM To: JMDL JMDL Subject: Re: vocal ranges Ron, This sounds ridiculous Mariah and Whitney not at the Top Lennon similar to McCartney Winwood and Elton John not the highest males. Idon't believe it. John >----Original Message---- >From: rong@mweb.co. za >Date: 24/05/2014 15:38 >To: "JMDL JMDL" >Subj: vocal ranges > >I came across this site on another forum. > >http://www.concerthotels.com/worlds-greatest-vocal-ranges> >purports to show the vocal ranges of various singers. I am just a little >surprised at how narrow joni's range seems to be (C#3 to A5) compared to >some of the others (eg axl rose F1 to B6) > > >ron ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 14:22:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: vocal range Amen to that. I can't stand the really high-pitched shrieking that people like Mariah Carey do. To me, that's just vocal acrobatics and maybe it's good vocal exercise (or maybe not) but it hurts my sensitive, shell-like ears. Maybe it's the fact that I'm part dog, I dunno, but make it go awaaaaayyyy! I'd rather hear Joni with the limited vocal range she has now rasping* out "Furry sings the blues," as she did at Luminato, than hear Mariah Carey do just about anything. But hey, that's just me! *In case anyone's going for the flame-throwers, it wasn't a rasp at all, but Ms Mitchell says she can't sing anymore and I get that, and I just like the sound of "rasp." (now playing in my head: a voice like Mercedes McCambridge's Exorcist-demon, singing one of those helium-Joni songs, "Conversation" maybe. Or maybe Jimmy Durante singing "All I want.") > > Having more pitch range of course does not make you a better singer, as we all > know. More emotional range does. > > Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 08:22:25 -0500 From: SusanBTaylorBand Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #777 After watching the MuchMusic Intimate and Interactive video presented here a few days ago by another Digest member, Joni stated in the video that she had about two years of piano lessons, said something about getting through the second grade book, so she did have music training - and most likely learned theory and sight reading. If it was a course like John Thompson (very popular in that era) then the second grade book affords a lot of theory and sight reading opportunities. Susan Sent from my iPad > On May 24, 2014, at 2:00 AM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Saturday, May 24 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 777 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: The Last Waltz (alternate b/w recording) ["johnnybgoode@lineone.net" ] > Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #172 [Paul Ivice ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 21:53:20 +0100 (BST) > From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" > Subject: Re: The Last Waltz (alternate b/w recording) > > Monica, > > Many thanks for posting this.I love the Shadows & Light Jam. > The two drummers and Garth and Robbie's contributions, wow, you don't > need the fretless bass. > > John > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 15:32:26 -0400 (EDT) > From: Paul Ivice > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #172 > > And then there was Vari-speed, a control on analog tape machines that adjusted > the motor speed by small amounts. Before digital recording it was common > practice to slow the tape machine a little for extra fatness on a track or > speed > it up a little for extra pep, without regard for the poor student trying to > play > along to it. The A440 reference, then, has been disregarded many many times > since it was adopted. Those who cite 432Hz as a better pitch reference are in > fact hearing a little more fulness and low end than if the same music is > played > at A440; I dont think theres anything celestial, spiritual or political > whatsoever going on, though we love a good mystery when science is involved! > > Remember that all this discussion is about a woman who cannot or does not read > music,so some of the things being discussed about Joni ascribe to her much > more careful thought than the instinct I believe she relies on for most of > these decisions. > > > Paul Ivice ;>) > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #777 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 May 2014 07:07:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni Covers, Volume 189 Howdy all, and Happy Memorial Day weekend to those of us in the USA. Got another NEW batch of covers to lay on y'all today...most of these are from 2011-12 with the oldest being from the 2002 Steve Klink and Rachel Z tributes. And speaking of Steve Klink, this volume kicks off with his instrumental version of "Cotton Avenue" which is incidentally the only one so far that I'm aware of. 189 also features a nice mini-set from Florencia Otero - she's got a great voice and has a fine band backing her up and contributing some lovely solos. We also get a cover of "The Arrangement" which is another one we don't hear very often. Kevin Sandbloom gives us another of his covers from his Blue tribute. I love his voice and the twist he puts on these songs. Marge Weber, not so much. Many other tasty nuggets to be found in this sampler. Zzip it! http://ow.ly/xdB85 1. Steve Klink - Cotton Avenue 2. Mary Jane Alm - A Case of You 3. Leila Thigpen - Both Sides Now 4. Florencia Otero - I Had A King 5. Florencia Otero - River 6. Florencia Otero - Little Green 7. Florencia Otero - A Case Of You 8. The Redbird Duo - Circle Game 9. Will Taylor & Strings Attached - Chelsea Morning 10. Kamilla Kovacks - All I Want 11. Nereide - The Arrangement 12. Sally Barker - Real Good For Free 13. Lissa Schneckenburger - River 14. Elisa Peimer, Jon Sobel - Little Green 15. Keiko Utoku - Both Sides Now 16. Rachel Z Trio - Big Yellow Taxi 17. Kevin Sandbloom - A Case Of You 18. Marge Weber - The Circle Game 18 songs, 18 hits - enjoy. Bob NP: Florencia Otero, "A Case Of You" ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 25 May 2014 19:28:02 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: vocal range Billie Holiday always had a bit of smoky rasp in her voice from her very first recordings in the early 1930s. She never had a silky smooth sound although her recordings in the early to mid 1940s come as close to it as any of her career. In the late 40s up until her death in 1959, the voice got progressively more gravelly. She also had a very limited pitch range. Yet she is remembered as one of the greatest singers of all time and rightfully so. Her technique was impeccable and her delivery always informed with a sense of honesty that made you believe she had lived every word she sang. Judy Garland did not have an impressive range in pitch either. Yet her voice had a warmth and clarity that she used to great effect. She could sing with an intimacy that caressed every note or sing with powerful intensity that could be heart wrenching. She could also turn around and sing with a brightness that was an infectious expression of pure joy. Neither of these singers performed vocal acrobatics with runs or jaw-dropping high notes. It's true, the style has changed and people like Mariah Carey and Whitney Houston have become the standard that other singers are measured against. But there is something to be said for the innate genius for communicating a song that singers like Billie and Judy possessed. Like Joni, they stand outside of current trends. They set their own unique standards and their art is timeless. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Catherine McKay *In case anyone's going for the flame-throwers, it wasn't a rasp at all, but Ms Mitchell says she can't sing anymore and I get that, and I just like the sound of "rasp." (now playing in my head: a voice like Mercedes McCambridge's Exorcist-demon, singing one of those helium-Joni songs, "Conversation" maybe. Or maybe Jimmy Durante singing "All I want.") > > Having more pitch range of course does not make you a better singer, as we > all > know. More emotional range does. > > Dave ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #180 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe