From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #173 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, May 19 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 173 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Malka reads [Vincenzo Mancini ] Joni's Tuning [Mary ] Re: tuning to the birds [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Winter in Florida [Kate Johnson ] RE: tuning to the birds ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: tuning to the birds [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #757 [SusanBTaylorBand ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 20:06:10 +0100 (BST) From: Vincenzo Mancini Subject: Malka reads some excerpts from her book and tells that she didn't want to know Bob Dylan... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytiRRP0n2OM ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 10:01:15 -0700 From: Mary Subject: Joni's Tuning I read somewhere, early on, a reporter in Canada asked how she tuned her guitar & she quipped, " I tune it the eastern winds". I found that hilarious, worthy of Dorothy Parker. I mean you don't give away your performing secrets. GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel road, where the barb wire meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 10:33:15 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: tuning to the birds That sounds like interview-speak to me. All of her tunings are concordant, if unconventional, and conform to the notes in the chromatic scale. Bird song certainly has its pitches, but is unconfined to any scale or temperament. Its more likely Joni found inspiration when out in nature, as probably most artists do, but went a step further to intrigue the interviewer in claiming she actually tuned to the birds. On May 16, 2014, at 6:52 AM, SusanBTaylorBand wrote: > You all probably know this: I listened to an interview with Joni years ago and she said that many times when writing a new song, she would go to the woods and tune her guitar to whatever notes the birds were singing. I hope she goes into more details like this in the new book. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 09:19:29 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: Winter in Florida Well that's weird. At any rate, spring has finally arrived in Saskatchewan. We've had two days with a bit of heat from the sun that wasn't ripped away immediately by wind. I hope it will be warm enough this afternoon to spend an hour or two in my flowerbed. I can now stand out on my deck listening to frogs and birds and/or looking at stars without freezing my ass off. And the farmers just got into the fields this past week. It's beautiful outside. What a planet! - -Kate b?b 1b.b?b 1b.b?b 1b. Stubblejumpin'Gal http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com On 2014-05-08, at 11:51 AM, Paul Ivice wrote: > Kate Johnson wrote: they reported an unusually cold winter down in Florida, > too. > > It's a lie; absolutely not true. > We've had a warm and wonderful, if slightly more rainy than usual, winter and > spring in Florida. > Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 17:45:42 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: tuning to the birds She also said she tuned to the waves on the BC coastline when writing Magdalene Laundries. Crazy cat lady!!! :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dave Blackburn Sent: Friday, May 16, 2014 1:33 PM To: SusanBTaylorBand Cc: JMDL JMDL Subject: Re: tuning to the birds That sounds like interview-speak to me. All of her tunings are concordant, if unconventional, and conform to the notes in the chromatic scale. Bird song certainly has its pitches, but is unconfined to any scale or temperament. Its more likely Joni found inspiration when out in nature, as probably most artists do, but went a step further to intrigue the interviewer in claiming she actually tuned to the birds. On May 16, 2014, at 6:52 AM, SusanBTaylorBand wrote: > You all probably know this: I listened to an interview with Joni years ago and she said that many times when writing a new song, she would go to the woods and tune her guitar to whatever notes the birds were singing. I hope she goes into more details like this in the new book. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 19:35:58 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Re: tuning to the birds I don't think she is even aware of the difference. She is so intuitive that the translation from "bird" to "chromatic scale" happens subliminally. All she knows is that she's writing because she honed in on the birds. Her muse (Sadie, her maternal grandmother), did the rest. Yeah, I said that. Jim >That sounds like interview-speak to me. All of her tunings are concordant, if unconventional, and conform to the notes in the chromatic scale. Bird song certainly has its pitches, but is unconfined to any scale or temperament. Its more likely Joni found inspiration when out in nature, as probably most artists do, but went a step further to intrigue the interviewer in claiming she actually tuned to the birds.> ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 22:36:59 -0500 From: SusanBTaylorBand Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #757 I thought I would get more comments from my post regarding birdsongs' natural pitch being sung in harmony to A 432 H instead of A 440 H. Perhaps Joni knows what I am trying to discuss. Does she ever reply to any of these posts? I say this as I wrote music for many years unknowingly on a piano tuned a quarter step flat because of a broken bass bridge. Taking the songs into a studio and recording them at A 440 H (the international standard at this time) changed the "emotional" appeal of each song. Can anyone on this Digest relate? Susan Sent from my iPad > On May 18, 2014, at 7:02 PM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Sunday, May 18 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 757 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: tuning to the birds [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 19:35:58 -0400 > From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com > Subject: Re: tuning to the birds > > I don't think she is even aware of the difference. She is so intuitive that the translation from "bird" to "chromatic scale" happens subliminally. All she knows is that she's writing because she honed in on the birds. Her muse (Sadie, her maternal grandmother), did the rest. Yeah, I said that. > > Jim > > > >> That sounds like interview-speak to me. All of her tunings are concordant, if unconventional, and conform to the notes in the chromatic scale. Bird song certainly has its pitches, but is unconfined to any scale or temperament. Its more likely Joni found inspiration when out in nature, as probably most artists do, but went a step further to intrigue the interviewer in claiming she actually tuned to the birds.> > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #757 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 11:15:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Tuning to the sounds of the day Yeah, that mostly comes up when she's talking about Magdalene Laundries. She says she was on the coast tuning her guitar to the sounds of the day. Wrote a pretty melody but then saw the Magdalene story in the tabloids at the grocery store and used her "pretty" melody to tell a dark tale. Bob NP: Tori Amos, "Invisible Boy" ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #173 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe