From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #165 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, May 13 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 165 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Malka's 1974 interview, in archive [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] Re: CMIARS and everything else [Catherine McKay ] RE: The ever-expanding library ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #710 [SusanBTaylorBand ] Re: Malka Marom Interviews Joni In The LIBRARY [kbhla@fastmail.fm] Re: CMIARS and everything else [Catherine McKay ] Re: Another top 20 songwriter list... ["johnnybgoode@lineone.net" ] RE: The ever-expanding library [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: CMIARS and everything else [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: CMIARS and everything else [Lori Renee Fye ] RE: The ever-expanding library ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Photos of Joni & Author of New Joni book in September [Laura O ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #700 [Catherine McKay ] Don't hold your breath [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #725 [SusanBTaylorBand ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #732 [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #699 [LC Stanley ] CMIARS and everything else [Rob Procyk ] Re: CMIARS and everything else [Catherine McKay ] Malka Marom Interviews Joni In The LIBRARY [Laura O ] Re: Don't hold your breath [Catherine McKay ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #722 [SusanBTaylorBand ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 21:10:11 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Malka's 1974 interview, in archive http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2542&from=search Jim L ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 05:06:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: CMIARS and everything else No, I could not do that. I do analyze the shit out of things, but I don't usually share that with others. I haven't had the pain that Joni has had, either. At this point, I'm so used to being me that I wouldn't want to change places with anyone. And I just don't have either the talent or the drive to stick with anything. >________________________________ > From: Shari >To: Rob Procyk >Cc: "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 2:11:03 AM >Subject: Re: CMIARS and everything else > > > >My original question was : could you do what she did? Expose yourself, work yourself hard enough to face your truth head on, live through the pain that she had to endure? The over sensitive, constantly analyzing hyper aware mind. The guilt of a lost child? The cold and hard Mother? The disease and heartache? Or are you happy to not be Joni? To simply have the fortune of enjoying what she's created? > >I feel a little spoiled by her & feel she had to suffer too much for it. That's all. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 19:43:42 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: The ever-expanding library You could probably write a really excellent book yourself, Bob!!! I will be getting the Malka book too. Wasn't Malka part of the American Masters film? I remember a quote of hers talking about the first time she heard I Had A King, and had never heard a woman sing about those emotions before. I think it will be very revealing since Malka knew her since the beginning. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 2:23 PM To: SusanBTaylorBand Cc: joni Subject: The ever-expanding library I am eager for the book's release as I am sure you are as well.> I am. I find that I ALWAYS learn something from every Joni book that comes out, and now there are SO MANY. When I first joined there were only a handful including the fun and trashy "Joni Mitchell - Her Life, Her Loves, her Music" by Leonore Fleischer, dating from 1976 and way out of print but copies float around on ebay every so often. I've got a whole bookshelf full of Joni now, and I won't even get into how many CD's of stuff I have... Bob NP: The Surfaris, "Wipeout" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 09:37:58 -0500 From: SusanBTaylorBand Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #710 That list was certainly male dominated. What about Carole King, Janis Ian? Sent from my iPad > On May 12, 2014, at 8:29 AM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Monday, May 12 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 710 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Another top 20 songwriter list... [Victor Johnson > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 09:28:38 -0400 > From: Victor Johnson > Subject: Another top 20 songwriter list... > > Joni comes in at #8. Definitely agree with a lot of their choices (Tom > Waits, Stevie Wonder, Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, Van Morrison, Paul > Simon, WIllie Nelson, Dolly Parton, Dylan...). Not really sure about > Robert Johnson as there's so little material from him...though he was > certainly revolutionary and groundbreaking for his time. I would have > included Nick Drake. > > No songwriting duos were included (Lennon/McCartney, Jagger/Richards, > Garcia/Hunter, etc...) > > > http://www.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2014/05/07/top-20-singer-songwriters-of-all-time > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #710 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 15:23:07 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Photos of Joni & Author of New Joni book in September HOLY MOLEY! That picture of her with Rufus Wainwright is at the Luminato After Party we attended. You can see Kilauren right over his shoulder. I had no idea that was Malka ... Wow. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Laura O Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 11:04 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Photos of Joni & Author of New Joni book in September There's quite a few photos of Joni + Joni with Malka Marom on her website here. I counted 9 pictures of Joni (toward the bottom of the page) in the PHOTOS GALLERY. http://malkamarom.com/media-gallery/ Order thru this link to give-back to the JM.com website http://jonimitchell.com/library/viewmedia.cfm?id=107 Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 09:59:03 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Another top 20 songwriter list... And they refer to her as a crazy cat lady - ha! An interesting list, like you I wouldn't put Robert Johnson there so as to keep it in the modern era, or include Willie Dixon as well, his songs have a greater legacy than Johnson's... Elliott Smith was an interesting choice as well. A rare entry on lists of this nature. Bob NP: Amy Correia, "City Girl" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Susan Sent from my iPad > On May 12, 2014, at 11:18 AM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Monday, May 12 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 719 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #700 [Catherine McKay ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 09:15:48 -0700 (PDT) > From: Catherine McKay > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #700 > > I'm going to wait until some of you have read it, in order to determine > whether or not it's worth reading. > > > >> ________________________________ > From: Laurie Antonioli >> To: JMDL >> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 10:28:41 AM >> Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #700 >> >> >> I just pre-ordered as well, Bob. This looks like a wonderful book - can't >> wait. >> >> Laurie > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #719 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 01:03:58 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: CMIARS and everything else > Maybe I'm more a fan of personal Joni over political Joni. Hmm ... I'd say not, Rob, because you love DED so much, and that's mostly a very political album. :-) > In retrospect, does a song written for a cat seem like a lame motif? Only if you know it's about a cat. If you just hear "Man from Mars" (and I'm assuming that's the song to which you're referring, Rob), it's just an amazing haunting song of loss and missing someone. I was watching a film on Netflix when I was living in Wales early last year called "The Bridge" ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridge_(2006_documentary_film), and at the very end of the film I heard a familiar melody. At first I couldn't pin it, and then I realized it was "Man from Mars." It was absolutely perfect for the ending of that film (which I recommend if you want to be really depressed, or if you're fascinated by suicide by jumping from bridges). Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 17:45:56 -0700 From: kbhla@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: Malka Marom Interviews Joni In The LIBRARY Thanks for the alert, Laura. I'm very interested in this book. We've heard from various sources that Joni has been working on writing her own bio over the past several years. I wonder and speculate if Joni might be collaborating somewhat with Marom on this one. Kakki > You can get a sense of Malka Marom in these two interviews in the > JM.com LIBRARY. I read these this a.m. > Because Malka is in Joni's inner circle of friends and appreciates her, > I feel this book should be outstanding and > unlike some past books about Joni, the details should be accurate. > Should be a very, very good read. > Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 05:03:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: CMIARS and everything else I didn't know it was about a cat until later, so I just felt as you did that it was a song about losing someone. Even after I found out it was about a cat, that didn't change for me the feeling of sorrow that emanates from both the words and the music. Of course, I'm also a cat person and, even if the loss of a cat doesn't equal the loss of a loved human, it is still a loss, especially if the critter has been part of your life for a long time. >________________________________ > From: Lori Renee Fye >To: Rob Procyk >Cc: "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 3:03:58 AM >Subject: Re: CMIARS and everything else > > > >> In retrospect, does a song written for a cat seem like a lame motif? > >Only if you know it's about a cat. If you just hear "Man from Mars" (and >I'm assuming that's the song to which you're referring, Rob), it's just an >amazing haunting song of loss and missing someone. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 19:13:16 +0100 (BST) From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" Subject: Re: Another top 20 songwriter list... Bob, Victor, Noted,and very odd that Lennon and / or McCartney are absent, as either of them could be in it. Elliot Smith must be a niche choice. I hadn't heard of him until I read about Bob Geldof's daughter Peaches had been listening to his songs in an obsessive way (if you can believe the Daily Mail's account), prior to her sad but unexplained death. Leonard Cohen was probably too much of her Dad's era for her. John >----Original Message---- >From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com >Date: 12/05/2014 13:59 >To: "Victor Johnson" >Cc: "Joni" >Subj: Re: Another top 20 songwriter list... > >And they refer to her as a crazy cat lady - ha! An interesting list, like >you I wouldn't put Robert Johnson there so as to keep it in the modern >era, or include Willie Dixon as well, his songs have a greater legacy than >Johnson's... > >Elliott Smith was an interesting choice as well. A rare entry on lists of >this nature. > >Bob > >NP: Amy Correia, "City Girl" >------------------------------------------------------------ >The information transmitted is intended only for the person >or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >proprietary, business- confidential and/or privileged material. >If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are >hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, >distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon >this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please >contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > >Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual >sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. >------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 07:38:33 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Another top 20 songwriter list... I can think of at least a dozen criteria on which you could form a list like that; most influential, most number of hits, best songcraft, most covered, most original etc etc. Joni would rank pretty highly in all of those except most number of hits. Dave (and where is Andy Partridge?) On May 12, 2014, at 6:59 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > And they refer to her as a crazy cat lady - ha! An interesting list, like > you I wouldn't put Robert Johnson there so as to keep it in the modern > era, or include Willie Dixon as well, his songs have a greater legacy than > Johnson's... > > Elliott Smith was an interesting choice as well. A rare entry on lists of > this nature. > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 09:28:38 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Another top 20 songwriter list... Joni comes in at #8. Definitely agree with a lot of their choices (Tom Waits, Stevie Wonder, Bruce Springsteen, Neil Young, Van Morrison, Paul Simon, WIllie Nelson, Dolly Parton, Dylan...). Not really sure about Robert Johnson as there's so little material from him...though he was certainly revolutionary and groundbreaking for his time. I would have included Nick Drake. No songwriting duos were included (Lennon/McCartney, Jagger/Richards, Garcia/Hunter, etc...) http://www.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2014/05/07/top-20-singer-songwriters-of-all-time ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 19:11:26 +0100 From: Joe Farrell Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #700 This looks like being a really interesting book. I have pre-ordered it too. Joe. On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:57 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Monday, May 12 2014 Volume 2014 : Number > 700 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: New Joni book in September > [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 07:57:06 -0400 > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: Re: New Joni book in September > > Looks like a goodie. Got my copy on pre-order. > > Bob > > NP: Uncle Tupelo, "Graveyard Shift" > > > > From: Les Irvin > To: Joni List , > Date: 05/11/2014 08:34 PM > Subject: New Joni book in September > Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org > > > > http://jonimitchell.com/library/viewmedia.cfm?id=107 > > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #700 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 16:03:46 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: The ever-expanding library You could probably write a really excellent book yourself, Bob!!!> Ah, I can just see it now - "Joni Covers/A History" by Bob Muller...look for it sitting on the out-of-print shelf next to all the Sarah Palin books. Actually that topic would make a pretty good article. Some of the early concerts where she's so excited that George Hamilton had recorded and was moving units of "Urge For Going" and she was getting those 'royalty pennies'. Well, those royalty pennies added up over 50 years! All the non-English versions, all the covers of songs Joni herself never released...it's interesting to me anyway. I think it will be very revealing since Malka knew her since the beginning.> She was featured in the WOHAM video, Sue - and you're right, given the tenure and sincerity of their relationship, it should make for a very interesting dialogue. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 08:27:20 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: CMIARS and everything else I couldn't have lived Joni's life and she couldn't have lived mine. (especially given that I'm a non-smoker - ha!) That's neither good nor bad, it's just life. We all lead our own lives and leave our own marks in this world, and that doesn't make any of us better than any other. I prefer a level playing field to one full of pedestals. I am proud to be an amateur...it means I do what I do for LOVE (Amor) than for money. Bob NP: Ray LaMontagne, "Pick Up A Gun" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 01:06:31 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: CMIARS and everything else > My original question was : could you do what she did? > Expose yourself No, at least not in the way that Joni has done it. I expose myself to a portion of the public all the time (mainly via Facebook), but I certainly haven't lived through the pain that Joni has lived through, and of course her audience is much wider. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 20:10:37 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: The ever-expanding library I am really fascinated by the dark cafi period now for some reason ... so I think this will be a very good read. I would love for Joni to finally release some of the recordings from that period too ... blah blah blah ... the elusive box set ... blah blah!!! :) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu From: Bob.Muller@fluor.com [mailto:Bob.Muller@fluor.com] Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 4:04 PM To: Susan E. McNamara Cc: joni Subject: RE: The ever-expanding library You could probably write a really excellent book yourself, Bob!!!> Ah, I can just see it now - "Joni Covers/A History" by Bob Muller...look for it sitting on the out-of-print shelf next to all the Sarah Palin books. Actually that topic would make a pretty good article. Some of the early concerts where she's so excited that George Hamilton had recorded and was moving units of "Urge For Going" and she was getting those 'royalty pennies'. Well, those royalty pennies added up over 50 years! All the non-English versions, all the covers of songs Joni herself never released...it's interesting to me anyway. I think it will be very revealing since Malka knew her since the beginning.> She was featured in the WOHAM video, Sue - and you're right, given the tenure and sincerity of their relationship, it should make for a very interesting dialogue. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 18:22:10 -0500 From: Laura O Subject: Photos of Joni & Author of New Joni book in September Well, ya just never know who you'll be rubbing elbows with at those after parties! :-D Laura On 5/12/2014 10:23 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > HOLY MOLEY! That picture of her with Rufus Wainwright is at the Luminato After Party we attended. You can see Kilauren right over his shoulder. I had no idea that was Malka ... Wow. > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Laura O > Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 11:04 AM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Photos of Joni & Author of New Joni book in September > > There's quite a few photos of Joni + Joni with Malka Marom on her website here. > I counted 9 pictures of Joni (toward the bottom of the page) in the PHOTOS GALLERY. > > http://malkamarom.com/media-gallery/ > > Order thru this link to give-back to the JM.com website > http://jonimitchell.com/library/viewmedia.cfm?id=107 > > Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 09:16:07 -0500 From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: CMIARS and everything else Hi Bob, How's it going? Your post reminded me of The Judgement of the Moon and Stars. Like Beethoven, Joni is human. I'm of the opinion that although her motivation at first with the eukele in the coffee houses was a little cash, that when she no longer fit the ranks of the amateurs, artistic expression was most important. I love the way she's changed things up over the years. I agree with Sue that Night Ride Home is a guitar masterwork, a point of change. The depth created by the beats and spaces in the instrumentation as well as the variety and orchestration of the instruments centering around the unique use of the guitar is like nothing I've heard before. Without me giving any opinion, I asked my son who is studying music for his opinion of the album, and he commented on the uniqueness and didn't try to put it into any particular classification. Joni's close friends said to me that she doesn't get the kind of good input on a regular basis that she used to, and in their opinion it is good for her now to hear compliments and be told she is appreciated. I think the world of her and was fortunate to look deep into her eyes and tell her that. To me she isn't just like anybody else any more than my mother is like anybody else. Pedestals in my experience just happen, like some people fascinate me and other's don't. Love, Laura Judgement of the Moon and Stars No tongue in the bell And the fishwives yell But they might as well be mute So you get to keep the pictures That dont seem like much Cold white keys under your fingers Now youre thinking Thats no substitute It just dont do it Like the song of a warm, warm body Loving your touch In the court they carve your legend With an apple in its jaw And the women that you wanted They get their laughs Long silk stockings On the bedposts of refinement Youre too raw They think youre too raw Its the judgement of the moon and stars Your solitary path Draw yourself a bath Think what youd like to have For supper Or take a walk A park A bridge A tree A river Revoked but not yet cancelled The gift goes on In silence In a bell jar Still a song ... Youve got to shake your fists at lightning now Youve got to roar like forest fire Youve got to spread your light like blazes All across the sky Theyre going to aim the hoses on you Show em you wont expire Not till you burn up every passion Not even when you die Come on now Youve got to try If youre feeling contempt Well then you tell it If youre tired of the silent night Jesus, well then you yell it Condemned to wires and hammers Strike every chord that you feel That broken trees And elephant ivories Conceal Subject: Re: CMIARS and everything else I couldn't have lived Joni's life and she couldn't have lived mine. (especially given that I'm a non-smoker - ha!) That's neither good nor bad, it's just life. We all lead our own lives and leave our own marks in this world, and that doesn't make any of us better than any other. I prefer a level playing field to one full of pedestals. I am proud to be an amateur...it means I do what I do for LOVE (Amor) than for money Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 09:15:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #700 I'm going to wait until some of you have read it, in order to determine whether or not it's worth reading. >________________________________ > From: Laurie Antonioli >To: JMDL >Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 10:28:41 AM >Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #700 > > >I just pre-ordered as well, Bob. This looks like a wonderful book - can't >wait. > >Laurie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 13:20:32 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Don't hold your breath Hopefully she will write first hand why she wrote certain songs and for whom.> That would be a major surprise, Susan - she has always been reticent about spilling any dirt on that topic. Her standard response is "what does it mean to you?". And I'm actually cool with that. Part of her writing power is that so many of the themes she writes about are universal and I tend to think about other people I know when I hear them anyway. Having said that, it IS fun finding out who the subjects REALLY are. Bob NP: Michael Kiwanuka, "Home Again" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 13:25:47 -0500 From: SusanBTaylorBand Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #725 Maybe these are just writers from North America? Sent from my iPad > On May 12, 2014, at 1:13 PM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Monday, May 12 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 725 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Another top 20 songwriter list... ["johnnybgoode@lineone.net" > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 19:13:16 +0100 (BST) > From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" > Subject: Re: Another top 20 songwriter list... > > Bob, > Victor, > > Noted,and very odd that Lennon and / or McCartney are > absent, as either of them could be in it. > > Elliot Smith must be a niche > choice. I hadn't heard of him until I read about Bob Geldof's daughter > Peaches had been listening to his songs in an obsessive way (if you can > believe the Daily Mail's account), prior to her sad but unexplained > death. > > Leonard Cohen was probably too much of her Dad's era for her. > > > John > >> ----Original Message---- >> From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com >> Date: > 12/05/2014 13:59 >> To: "Victor Johnson" >> Cc: > "Joni" >> Subj: Re: Another top 20 songwriter list... > >> And they refer to her as a crazy cat lady - ha! An interesting list, > like >> you I wouldn't put Robert Johnson there so as to keep it in the > modern >> era, or include Willie Dixon as well, his songs have a greater > legacy than >> Johnson's... >> >> Elliott Smith was an interesting choice > as well. A rare entry on lists of >> this nature. >> >> Bob >> >> NP: Amy > Correia, "City Girl" > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> The > information transmitted is intended only for the person >> or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain >> proprietary, business- > confidential and/or privileged material. >> If you are not the intended > recipient of this message you are >> hereby notified that any use, > review, retransmission, dissemination, >> distribution, reproduction or > any action taken in reliance upon >> this message is prohibited. If you > received this in error, please >> contact the sender and delete the > material from any computer. >> >> Any views expressed in this message > are those of the individual >> sender and may not necessarily reflect > the views of the company. > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #725 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 07:28:41 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #700 I just pre-ordered as well, Bob. This looks like a wonderful book - can't wait. Laurie On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 4:57 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Monday, May 12 2014 Volume 2014 : Number > 700 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: New Joni book in September > [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 07:57:06 -0400 > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: Re: New Joni book in September > > Looks like a goodie. Got my copy on pre-order. > > Bob > > NP: Uncle Tupelo, "Graveyard Shift" > > > > From: Les Irvin > To: Joni List , > Date: 05/11/2014 08:34 PM > Subject: New Joni book in September > Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org > > > > http://jonimitchell.com/library/viewmedia.cfm?id=107 > > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #700 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 21:53:49 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #732 Damn! I've been scooped by my coupon-cutting colleague! I shouldn't be surprised. Anyway, yeah, I remember Malka in the essential DVD, "Woman Of Heart And Mind" as the European woman who says somethin' like, "She was maybe a little pigeon-toed... an' hair is covering her face. An' it's like... she just wants to disappear... "An' jus let the song... BE." I think Malka showed herself to be a fine storyteller too. Jim Np: Karin Bergquist covering "It Makes No Difference" from The Band > --------------------------------------------------- > From: Laura O > > June 1974 > Macleans Magazine Interview > http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=434&from=search > > February 3, 1974 > The Entertainers Interview > http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2542&from=search > > Laura > > ********A Little Tea For The Book Reading*********** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 05:16:16 -0700 (PDT) From: LC Stanley Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #699 Hi Rob, We all care for Joni in some capacity or we wouldn't be here. Like somebody said, it is about not missing the person for the object. It is a matter of preference really. I prefer compassionate criticism. Love, Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 00:51:29 -0600 From: Rob Procyk Subject: CMIARS and everything else Just because we critique her work doesn't mean we don't "actually care" for Joni as a person - we all have our struggles and Lord knows she's had her own and then some. Does critiquing her work negate caring for her? As for whether I'd want to experience her highs and lows, well, that's a complicated question I can't answer. But I do know that post-Klein/post Donald Joni is angrier and less introspective than I'd want to be, but again, that's just me. Song of her works have wrapped themselves around my soul. Some haven't. But I'm not going to pretend everything she's done is amazing to me. No blame for what we can and cannot feel. Rob Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 05:35:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: CMIARS and everything else Amen to that, brother! How is the new Ray? >________________________________ > From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" >To: Catherine McKay >Cc: Rob Procyk ; "joni@smoe.org" ; Shari >Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 8:27:20 AM >Subject: Re: CMIARS and everything else > > >I >I am proud to be an amateur...it means I do what I do for LOVE (Amor) than >for money. > >Bob > >NP: Ray LaMontagne, "Pick Up A Gun" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 18:20:10 -0500 From: Laura O Subject: Malka Marom Interviews Joni In The LIBRARY You can get a sense of Malka Marom in these two interviews in the JM.com LIBRARY. I read these this a.m. Because Malka is in Joni's inner circle of friends and appreciates her, I feel this book should be outstanding and unlike some past books about Joni, the details should be accurate. Should be a very, very good read. Wouldn't it be nice if it came out as an AudioBook as well so we could listen on the drive?! June 1974 Macleans Magazine Interview http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=434&from=search February 3, 1974 The Entertainers Interview http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2542&from=search Laura ********A Little Tea For The Book Reading*********** Lipton Natural Energy Tea http://www.startsampling.com/sm/103007lipton/order.iphtml?key=6f8d2c101e5199ebcf41d2fbb59bff5f&referrer=&sample=1&source=sn-ckesc ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 07:46:51 -0500 From: Laura O Subject: Kilauren & New Joni book in September Very excited to read this book! Anyone else notice Kilauren commented on JM.com's facebook page acknowledging the book? First time I've noticed a post from her here. (?) Laura *****FREEBIE******* *Bausch + Lomb Biotrue Multi-Purpose Contact Lens Solution Sample* (large bottle sample) *http://www.biotruechallenge.com/solution/tryit* Nivea-Eucerin-Aquaphor Lotion Men/Woman (Choose from Nivea Smooth Sensation Body Lotion 0.14oz, Nivea Men Mini Shave Gel 1oz,Eucerin Professional Repair Lotion 0.14oz, Aquaphor Lip Repair SPF 30 0.03oz.) Scroll down the page for form: https://www.facebook.com/NIVEAusa/app_648473528550146 Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 07:57:06 -0400 From:Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: New Joni book in September Looks like a goodie. Got my copy on pre-order. Bob From: Les Irvin To: Joni List, Date: 05/11/2014 08:34 PM Subject: New Joni book in September Sent by:owner-joni@smoe.org ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 12:42:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Don't hold your breath I've never been that interested. That is, when it comes out, I think, "Hmm, who'da thunk?" but, when the song first came out, it really was all about what it meant to me. As Bob says, the themes really are universal and many of these songs could be about people we've known - or even cats we've known! >________________________________ > From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" >To: SusanBTaylorBand >Cc: joni >Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 1:20:32 PM >Subject: Don't hold your breath > > >Hopefully she will write first hand why she wrote certain songs and for >whom.> > >That would be a major surprise, Susan - she has always been reticent about >spilling any dirt on that topic. Her standard response is "what does it >mean to you?". And I'm actually cool with that. Part of her writing power >is that so many of the themes she writes about are universal and I tend to >think about other people I know when I hear them anyway. Having said that, >it IS fun finding out who the subjects REALLY are. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 12:48:01 -0500 From: SusanBTaylorBand Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #722 Thanks for your comments Bob. I am eager for the book's release as I am sure you are as well. Sent from my iPad > On May 12, 2014, at 12:20 PM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Monday, May 12 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 722 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Don't hold your breath [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 13:20:32 -0400 > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: Don't hold your breath > > Hopefully she will write first hand why she wrote certain songs and for > whom.> > > That would be a major surprise, Susan - she has always been reticent about > spilling any dirt on that topic. Her standard response is "what does it > mean to you?". And I'm actually cool with that. Part of her writing power > is that so many of the themes she writes about are universal and I tend to > think about other people I know when I hear them anyway. Having said that, > it IS fun finding out who the subjects REALLY are. > > Bob > > NP: Michael Kiwanuka, "Home Again" > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #722 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 14:23:09 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: The ever-expanding library I am eager for the book's release as I am sure you are as well.> I am. I find that I ALWAYS learn something from every Joni book that comes out, and now there are SO MANY. When I first joined there were only a handful including the fun and trashy "Joni Mitchell - Her Life, Her Loves, her Music" by Leonore Fleischer, dating from 1976 and way out of print but copies float around on ebay every so often. I've got a whole bookshelf full of Joni now, and I won't even get into how many CD's of stuff I have... Bob NP: The Surfaris, "Wipeout" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 10:03:58 -0500 From: Laura O Subject: Photos of Joni & Author of New Joni book in September There's quite a few photos of Joni + Joni with Malka Marom on her website here. I counted 9 pictures of Joni (toward the bottom of the page) in the PHOTOS GALLERY. http://malkamarom.com/media-gallery/ Order thru this link to give-back to the JM.com website http://jonimitchell.com/library/viewmedia.cfm?id=107 Laura ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 May 2014 21:59:05 -0700 (PDT) From: LC Stanley Subject: 48 "digests" in one day My email box is being digested by JMDL digests, most with just one post in them. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #165 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe