From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #161 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, May 11 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 161 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Would_you=E2=80=A6_YES!!!__Happy_Mother's_Day_Jon i?= =?utf-8?Q?!!!?= [Shari ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 09:07:53 -0700 From: Shari Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Would_you=E2=80=A6_YES!!!__Happy_Mother's_Day_Jon i?= =?utf-8?Q?!!!?= I'm not trying to be critical of the criticism .. just compassionate toward the woman I would give credit for having guided me in a lot of ways my own mom couldn't reach me. Happy Mother's Day to sweet Joan & the rest of you too! x > On May 11, 2014, at 6:20, LC Stanley wrote: > > Thank you Shari for asking the list to "push back being so critical" of Joni. > B It gags me personally to see a bunch of relative amateurs compared to Joni > being so critical. Nobody on this list comes close to the expertise and talent > of Joni, and until somebody does it is musical masturbating (the real word!!) > of egos.B > > > Okay, steam's off now and on to the real meat of the listb& > Thank you Garret and Jamie for your very touching posts!!! Your posts were a > great way to start mother's day. B Happy Mother's Day Jonib& you are my > musical mother in a very real sense, and I love you!!! > > Love,B > Laura > > Garret > wrote: > > My first Joni album was Hits which I got a couple of years after it > was > released. I loved it by the end of the first track.B I had known Chelsea > Morning for years as my dad had had it on a tape he had made from his > brother's records.B He had mislabelled the singer as Janis Joplin. In > searching out Chelsea Morning I became a Janis fan. My dad's tape had long > been lost so I became convinced that my memory of the song was inaccurate. > Me: Great story Garret!! B Janisb& that's funny!!! > > A friend I had not seem > for years sent me a gift voucher for a music shop > unexpectedly.B I was > browsing and liked the cover of Hits. Just like you > said Jamie,B discovering > Joni really set a high standard in what I > considered to be great music.B A > lot of the music I had listened to as a > teenager suddenly seemed less > powerful,B less genuine,B and less > interesting. > > Me: My sentiments and > experience too! B And it still holds. > > As far as I can recall I then started > buying other Joni albums that were > represented on Hits. I joined JMDL in 1999 > I think.B BSN was on the > horizon.B I got caught up in the excitement here.B > I was still discovering > Joni albums and beginning to get my head around her > progression as an > artist. I had just gone to university and my friends thought > my new > infatuation was mad. > I really like Night Of The Iguana and really like > your comments about it. > Garret > > Me: B There are so many incredible songs on > Shine, and I agree with Joni that it is her best album so far. B It is higher > innocence in the Blake sense. > > > On 9 May 2014 12:41, "Jamie Zubairi Home" > wrote: > >> I'm loving this discussion! For me CMIARS > was the first new album I came in >> on in 1988 having only just fell in love > with LOTC and I kinda thought 'Oh >> WOW, I guess she's gone the way of > Marianne Faithful, vocally' so it took >> some time to really get used to, > having really loved the helium soprano >> that got me hooked, it was a complete > turnaround to getting used to a new >> artist. I had it on tape and it was one > to really immerse myself in once I >> had bought a better sound system. I loved > the production of it, especially >> the haunting piano on My Secret Place and > the layering of instruments. >> Someone said it was a choral album, with guest > vocalists, which I'd never >> thought of as that before, more a dutes album > but, yes, it does fell like >> more of a choric album. > > Me: Brilliant!!! B I > love it!! > >> I guess I don't buy that much new music, or listen to new > musicians, having >> being spoilt by the high standards that I hold Joni in and > people always >> try and recommend me so-and-so "because she's just like Joni". > (Really? I >> can't hear it - or yeah, she's too like Joni, where is SHE in > it?) but now >> I've got into other artists who come from a folk root, but > mainly bands >> (Anathallo, Beirut, Fanfarlo etc etc) who don't bear any > resemblance to >> Joni's music but they tend to have a horn section, multiple > voices and good >> arrangements... so she's given me that at least). > > Me: > B Lourde, Haim. B I like these. B They are young and will be interesting to > follow, but nobody will ever come close to Joni for me. > >> >> My favourite > thing about Shine is that 'Night of The Iguana' DOESN'T have >> any castanets > in it, real, or synthesised, just where you're expecting to >> hear them in the > arrangement just after she says "Can you hear the >> castanets?" (No). >> I do > like Shine for all the crochety grandma-ness of it. I can't wait to >> hear a > sung version (if ever there will be) of 'This Rain'... will love to >> hear > what she'll do with the limited range. >> >> Anyway, welcome to the fold > Jamie Zubairi ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 15:26:47 -0500 From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Pedestal High Victor, Yes she is high up on a pedestal in my opinion. She's absolutely incredible! And she's also very human and has endured more criticism than probably most of us. I'm glad somebody stepped up and asked that it be pushed back here. I love the people on this list and don't mean to hurt feelings so if I have, I'm sorry. I'm a joker and don't take things too seriously. I've been struggling with too much responsibility of late so I'm easily disturbed. And when I'm disturbed, there is something wrong with me and I'm less tolerant. I'm a work in progress and not perfect. Love, Laura Sent from my iPhone > On May 11, 2014, at 11:58 AM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Sunday, May 11 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 683 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Would_you=E2=80=A6_?= [Victor ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 11 May 2014 12:58:20 -0400 > From: Victor > Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Would_you=E2=80=A6_?= > > What's disturbing is this perpetuated belief that if anyone "doesn't like" a particular song, album, or they don't like the production, or some other aspect, that they're somehow being "mean" to Joni? Really? Does she sit high up on a pedestal, where she is beyond any criticism of anything ever? > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 11, 2014, at 9:20 AM, LC Stanley wrote: >> >> Thank you Shari for asking the list to "push back being so critical" of Joni. >> B It gags me personally to see a bunch of relative amateurs compared to Joni >> being so critical. Nobody on this list comes close to the expertise and talent >> of Joni, and until somebody does it is musical masturbating (the real word!!) >> of egos.B >> >> >> Okay, steam's off now and on to the real meat of the listb& >> Thank you Garret and Jamie for your very touching posts!!! Your posts were a >> great way to start mother's day. B Happy Mother's Day Jonib& you are my >> musical mother in a very real sense, and I love you!!! >> >> Love,B >> Laura >> >> Garret >> wrote: >> >> My first Joni album was Hits which I got a couple of years after it >> was >> released. I loved it by the end of the first track.B I had known Chelsea >> Morning for years as my dad had had it on a tape he had made from his >> brother's records.B He had mislabelled the singer as Janis Joplin. In >> searching out Chelsea Morning I became a Janis fan. My dad's tape had long >> been lost so I became convinced that my memory of the song was inaccurate. >> Me: Great story Garret!! B Janisb& that's funny!!! >> >> A friend I had not seem >> for years sent me a gift voucher for a music shop >> unexpectedly.B I was >> browsing and liked the cover of Hits. Just like you >> said Jamie,B discovering >> Joni really set a high standard in what I >> considered to be great music.B A >> lot of the music I had listened to as a >> teenager suddenly seemed less >> powerful,B less genuine,B and less >> interesting. >> >> Me: My sentiments and >> experience too! B And it still holds. >> >> As far as I can recall I then started >> buying other Joni albums that were >> represented on Hits. I joined JMDL in 1999 >> I think.B BSN was on the >> horizon.B I got caught up in the excitement here.B >> I was still discovering >> Joni albums and beginning to get my head around her >> progression as an >> artist. I had just gone to university and my friends thought >> my new >> infatuation was mad. >> I really like Night Of The Iguana and really like >> your comments about it. >> Garret >> >> Me: B There are so many incredible songs on >> Shine, and I agree with Joni that it is her best album so far. B It is higher >> innocence in the Blake sense. >> >> >> On 9 May 2014 12:41, "Jamie Zubairi Home" >> wrote: >> >>> I'm loving this discussion! For me CMIARS >> was the first new album I came in >>> on in 1988 having only just fell in love >> with LOTC and I kinda thought 'Oh >>> WOW, I guess she's gone the way of >> Marianne Faithful, vocally' so it took >>> some time to really get used to, >> having really loved the helium soprano >>> that got me hooked, it was a complete >> turnaround to getting used to a new >>> artist. I had it on tape and it was one >> to really immerse myself in once I >>> had bought a better sound system. I loved >> the production of it, especially >>> the haunting piano on My Secret Place and >> the layering of instruments. >>> Someone said it was a choral album, with guest >> vocalists, which I'd never >>> thought of as that before, more a dutes album >> but, yes, it does fell like >>> more of a choric album. >> >> Me: Brilliant!!! B I >> love it!! >> >>> I guess I don't buy that much new music, or listen to new >> musicians, having >>> being spoilt by the high standards that I hold Joni in and >> people always >>> try and recommend me so-and-so "because she's just like Joni". >> (Really? I >>> can't hear it - or yeah, she's too like Joni, where is SHE in >> it?) but now >>> I've got into other artists who come from a folk root, but >> mainly bands >>> (Anathallo, Beirut, Fanfarlo etc etc) who don't bear any >> resemblance to >>> Joni's music but they tend to have a horn section, multiple >> voices and good >>> arrangements... so she's given me that at least). >> >> Me: >> B Lourde, Haim. B I like these. B They are young and will be interesting to >> follow, but nobody will ever come close to Joni for me. >> >>> >>> My favourite >> thing about Shine is that 'Night of The Iguana' DOESN'T have >>> any castanets >> in it, real, or synthesised, just where you're expecting to >>> hear them in the >> arrangement just after she says "Can you hear the >>> castanets?" (No). >>> I do >> like Shine for all the crochety grandma-ness of it. I can't wait to >>> hear a >> sung version (if ever there will be) of 'This Rain'... will love to >>> hear >> what she'll do with the limited range. >>> >>> Anyway, welcome to the fold >> Jamie Zubairi > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #683 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #161 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe