From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #151 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, May 6 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 151 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- The Crickets [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] time for the sign off prayer [LC Stanley ] You turn me on I'm a radio. [ingrid lochrenberg ] Re: Just curious ... Who's still here? [Laura Stanley ] Re: CMIARS [Jamie Zubairi Home ] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #623 ["Nina Pileggi" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #616 [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] individual [ingrid lochrenberg ] Re: CMIARS a masterwork? [Lori Renee Fye ] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #623 [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: CMIARS [Betsy Blue ] Re: Just curious ... who's still here? [Marion Leffler The story about the crickets is that the cricket was an uninvited guest in the studio. Klein and Joni couldn't eradicate it so they made the best of it. Night Ride Home is a great record with some truly beautiful songs.> ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 21:35:44 -0700 (PDT) From: LC Stanley Subject: time for the sign off prayer Good night 1. Joni's masterwork piece done to prove possession of skill sufficient to be ranked a master, the criteria being one who makes it onto the radio. Joni Mitchel - You Turn Me On I'm A Radio Joni Mitchel - You Turn Me On I'm A Radio View on www.youtube.com Preview by Yahoo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 May 2014 06:46:33 +0200 From: ingrid lochrenberg Subject: You turn me on I'm a radio. Haha! Well said, Laura. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 19:22:44 -0500 From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Just curious ... Who's still here? Salut Kate!!! I think Lori posed the original question. How's the great white north? Glad you are here! Sent from my iPhone > On May 5, 2014, at 7:00 PM, Kate Johnson wrote: > > Moi. > > b?b 1b.b?b 1b.b?b 1b. > Stubblejumpin'Gal > http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com > > > > On 2014-05-05, at 11:59 AM, Laura Stanley wrote: > >>> >>> Who's still here? Just wondering. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 18:00:57 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: Just curious ... Who's still here? Moi. b?b 1b.b?b 1b.b?b 1b. Stubblejumpin'Gal http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com On 2014-05-05, at 11:59 AM, Laura Stanley wrote: >> >> Who's still here? Just wondering. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 13:35:58 -0500 From: Laura O Subject: Both Sides Now Joni says in an interview here (talking about Chuck Mitchell): http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1588&from=search "She wrote the precociously world-weary Both Sides Now as a mere 21-year-old, much to the disdain of her then husband Chuck Mitchell. "I was married to a man who had a degree in literature, who knew I'd never read anything and basically thought I was stupid," she says. "He married the package and thought he'd svengali a brain into it. He married what he was pretty certain was a dumb blonde. When I wrote Both Sides Now, he said, 'What do you know about life? You're only 21.' Well, I had lived quite a bit. I'd survived quite a few diseases." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:25:18 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi Home Subject: Re: CMIARS Or even "the work of a master" On 5 May 2014 13:13, "ingrid lochrenberg" wrote: > Something can be regarded by a person as a masterwork based solely on it's > impact....with no criteria or intellectualization in-mind. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 10:04:39 -0700 From: "Nina Pileggi" Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #623 Ok here goes. I have been lurking for some time! I am in my early 50's and was aware of Joni (I remember hearing Help Me in Jr. High, BYT, etc.). But I really only got majorly into Joni in the last two years. I have been playing guitar seriously for about three years now. My dad was a big Judy Collins fan and her version of Both Sides Now was ingrained in my musical consciousness. When my music teacher asked me to pick a song to learn, I picked BSN, and sang it as Judy did. My teacher said, "let's just listen to Joni's version". So we did and I was hooked. I have my music teacher (Alan Jones a local Portland jazz musician) to thanks for sending me down this path. Her phrasing, her lyrics, her voice, her chords with the alternate tunings! I was in love with it all. I have also learned Circle Game and am working on Free Man in Paris and This Flight Tonight. I am attempting Song for Sharon, but that is pretty tough! I have written a few songs and am thankful for what I have learned from Joni's songs - composition and lyrics. I bought the box set with most of the CD's and have been working my way through them. My favorites right now are All I Want, Free Man in Paris, Carey and Coyote. Song for Sharon made me tear up the first time I heard it. Thanks for welcoming me Lori. Nina - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 9:29 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #623 JMDL Digest Monday, May 5 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 623 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: Just curious ... who's still here? [Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: Just curious ... who's still here? > I am here! My name is Nina Pileggi and I live in Beaverton, Oregon. I > have been on the list for some time, but have never posted. Well hi there, Nina and all! It's kind of cool to see the "lurkers" come out to post and play! :-) I've been on the JMDL -- mostly on, anyway, although I occasionally take a break -- since 1997. (Does that make me an old timer?) I feel as if I've told most of my "Joni stories" already, but maybe enough time has passed and retelling them one of two of them won't hurt. First Joni album (cassette, actually): Hejira. purchased at Keesler AFB in Biloxi, MS in 1977. It took me a while to warm to Hejira, but once I did I was hooked. I am now sharing a house in Idaho with the woman who, back in 1977, knocked on my door to ask, "Is that on the radio?" She's been my best friend ever since. (Not a lover, just a friend. Uncomplicated friendships last longer for me.) Second (also cassette): A "low end" copy of MOA, purchased in Regina, SK in 1978. The difference between Hejira and MOA kind of blew me away, and also blew the lid off my "urge for going" to discover and buy "everything Joni" I could get my hands on. Friends were enlisted in this venture, and I soon ended up with DJRD, Court and Spark, FTR, and THOSL, and probably in that order. Then I left (a) North Dakota (junction) and headed to Phoenix. Three weeks later I headed to Ohio for my 21st birthday and a good friend gave me Mingus as a present. I returned to Phoenix and haunted the used record stores, picking up STAS, Clouds, LOTC, and eventually Blue. Also, just because I spotted the artwork across a store, Shadow Play by the L.A. Express. Later during my time living in Phoenix, a girlfriend gave me Shadows and Light for Christmas. After that, I bought Joni's releases pretty much as soon as they came out, starting with WTRF, which felt like a wonderful rain shower after a drought. DED, the "love or hate" album, was "love" for me and it was really important in keeping me sane when I was stationed in Germany and surrounded by mostly people who had (and probably still have) political opinions very opposite my own. CMIARS was an "eh" for me, although I enjoyed it (and still do from time to time). NRH was a gift from a girlfriend who managed a Camelot record store. I'd known her for years and she used to make fun of my love for Joni's music until she got a promo of NRH and was blown away. And on and on ... I've always liked changing people's minds about Joni and I can tell a few stories about doing that. :-) There's more to my "Joni story" but mainly I just wanted to add some JC to this thread. I'd love to read (even again) everyone else's first and most important experiences with Joni's music, art, personal encounters, etc. I wasn't really looking for anyone in particular, Bob. :-) It just crossed my mind last night to wonder, since I'd resubbed recently but wasn't seeing many posts, who's still around. Glad to see y'all here! Lori, who started out on this list writing from San Antonio in '97, who rambled around all over creation, and who is now posting from Caldwell, Idaho :-) - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2014 #623 ***************************** - ------- To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 11:08:04 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #616 Jump on in, Susan - favorite songs? Albums? Ever seen her on tour? Bob NP: Thirteen Senses, "Into The Fire" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 15:33:14 +0200 From: ingrid lochrenberg Subject: individual But surely art shouldn't be a matter of democratic consent, but instead should rest for an indivual on how that individual experiences it. I don't think, for instance, that "To kill a Mockingbird" is a masterpiece. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 11:06:04 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: CMIARS a masterwork? > "In modern English the word is usually reserved for the best piece of work of a particular creative artist or craftsman." In that case, I'd have to vote for Hejira, and that album usually wins any contest where JM fans are voting for "best" of her work, with Blue or FTR right behind it. Lori ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:59:25 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #623 That's a great story, Nina - I too remember Judy Collins' hit but didn't really appreciate the song until I heard Joni's version from Clouds which I didn't hear until the late 80's. Let me echo Lori's welcome! Speaking of BSN, 958 versions later I have to say that I am VERY aware of the song. I wonder when we'll reach 1000 covers of it. It continues to be a very popular standard. Namaste. Bob NP: Eric Bibb, "Don't Ever Let Nobody Drag Your Spirit Down" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 06:12:33 -0700 From: Betsy Blue Subject: Re: CMIARS Hejira and Blue are Masterworks. Maybe Hissing of Summer Lawns approaches the category. I think people will refer to Blue a hundred years from now as an example of great "pre-digital rock" or whatever they call it in the future. CMIARS is just mediocre adult contemporary music from someone capable of much better. Betsy > You can refer to Citizen Kane, Rhapsody In Blue, The Mona Lisa, Gone With > The Wind, The Sistine Chapel, To Kill A Mockingbird as masterworks and > nobody would bat an eye because they are recognized as such over time. I > think it dilutes the meaning of the word to put CMIARS in that category. > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:31:52 +0200 From: Marion Leffler Subject: Re: Just curious ... who's still here? Also still here but mostly lurking nowadays. Still love the discussions. Just realized that I have been here for seven years now. My how time flies. Marion in Sweden 2014-05-05 13:12 GMT+02:00 Catherine McKay : > Still here. Just not posting much lately. > >________________________________ > > From: Lori Renee Fye > >To: Joni List > >Sent: Sunday, May 4, 2014 11:44:20 PM > >Subject: Just curious ... who's still here? > > > > > >I would've marked this > email NJC but then not everyone would receive it. > > > >Who's still here? Just > wondering. > > > >Lori, > >who quietly returned recently, > >writing from Caldwell, > Idaho ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 12:58:04 -0500 From: SusanBTaylorBand Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #632 Thank you njc. :) Sent from my iPad > On May 5, 2014, at 12:45 PM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Monday, May 5 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 632 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Welcome Susan, njc [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:27:57 -0400 > From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com > Subject: Welcome Susan, njc > > Hi. Welcome. What do you appreciate about Joni? > > Jim > Columbus, OH, USA > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #632 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 14:39:46 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Just curious ... who's still here? And speaking of new CD releases... Yet another Joni tribute CD is coming out in the coming week. Singer Maggie Hollinbeck along with Graham Sobelman collaborated on a tribute to Blue to celebrate its anniversary. They ran a kickstarter fundraiser to which I contributed so I got a download of the album along with their recording of "Conversation" as a bonus. "Another Shade Of Blue" has a release party this Sunday the 11th in Sacramento, CA - Randy Remote territory, perhaps? Samples & details: http://www.maggiehollinbeck.com/events/ Bob NP: Mark Knopfler, "Sailing To Philadelphia" (I remember hearing Chris and Les singing this one under the stars in the south of France - anyone else remember?) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 12:59:38 -0500 From: Laura Stanley Subject: RE: Just curious ... Who's still here? Hi Lori, I am. Perfect day in Dixie. Yours truly, Dr. Laura > I would've marked this email NJC but then not everyone would receive it. > > Who's still here? Just wondering. > > Lori, Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 10:30:18 -0400 From: Richard Flynn Subject: Re: Just curious ... who's still here? I'm here! Richard Flynn Professor of Literature Georgia Southern University https://sites.google.com/a/georgiasouthern.edu/rflynn http://georgiasouthern.academia.edu/RichardFlynn > On May 5, 2014, at 8:51 AM, "Mark" wrote: > > I'm still here occasionally contributing my two cents worth. Of course I have a way of spreading two cents a long way on the rare occasions when I do post. > > Dive back in, Lori. I miss your input. > > Mark in Seattle. > > -----Original Message----- From: Lori Renee Fye > Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 8:44 PM > To: Joni List > Subject: Just curious ... who's still here? > > I would've marked this email NJC but then not everyone would receive it. > > Who's still here? Just wondering. > > Lori, > who quietly returned recently, > writing from Caldwell, Idaho ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 10:28:29 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: Just curious ... who's still here? > I am here! My name is Nina Pileggi and I live in Beaverton, Oregon. I > have been on the list for some time, but have never posted. Well hi there, Nina and all! It's kind of cool to see the "lurkers" come out to post and play! :-) I've been on the JMDL -- mostly on, anyway, although I occasionally take a break -- since 1997. (Does that make me an old timer?) I feel as if I've told most of my "Joni stories" already, but maybe enough time has passed and retelling them one of two of them won't hurt. First Joni album (cassette, actually): Hejira. purchased at Keesler AFB in Biloxi, MS in 1977. It took me a while to warm to Hejira, but once I did I was hooked. I am now sharing a house in Idaho with the woman who, back in 1977, knocked on my door to ask, "Is that on the radio?" She's been my best friend ever since. (Not a lover, just a friend. Uncomplicated friendships last longer for me.) Second (also cassette): A "low end" copy of MOA, purchased in Regina, SK in 1978. The difference between Hejira and MOA kind of blew me away, and also blew the lid off my "urge for going" to discover and buy "everything Joni" I could get my hands on. Friends were enlisted in this venture, and I soon ended up with DJRD, Court and Spark, FTR, and THOSL, and probably in that order. Then I left (a) North Dakota (junction) and headed to Phoenix. Three weeks later I headed to Ohio for my 21st birthday and a good friend gave me Mingus as a present. I returned to Phoenix and haunted the used record stores, picking up STAS, Clouds, LOTC, and eventually Blue. Also, just because I spotted the artwork across a store, Shadow Play by the L.A. Express. Later during my time living in Phoenix, a girlfriend gave me Shadows and Light for Christmas. After that, I bought Joni's releases pretty much as soon as they came out, starting with WTRF, which felt like a wonderful rain shower after a drought. DED, the "love or hate" album, was "love" for me and it was really important in keeping me sane when I was stationed in Germany and surrounded by mostly people who had (and probably still have) political opinions very opposite my own. CMIARS was an "eh" for me, although I enjoyed it (and still do from time to time). NRH was a gift from a girlfriend who managed a Camelot record store. I'd known her for years and she used to make fun of my love for Joni's music until she got a promo of NRH and was blown away. And on and on ... I've always liked changing people's minds about Joni and I can tell a few stories about doing that. :-) There's more to my "Joni story" but mainly I just wanted to add some JC to this thread. I'd love to read (even again) everyone else's first and most important experiences with Joni's music, art, personal encounters, etc. I wasn't really looking for anyone in particular, Bob. :-) It just crossed my mind last night to wonder, since I'd resubbed recently but wasn't seeing many posts, who's still around. Glad to see y'all here! Lori, who started out on this list writing from San Antonio in '97, who rambled around all over creation, and who is now posting from Caldwell, Idaho :-) ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #151 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe