From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #150 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, May 5 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 150 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #616 [Anne Sandstrom ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #645 [SusanBTaylorBand ] Is there anybody there? SJC ["johnnybgoode@lineone.net" ] masterwork [Paul Ivice ] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #642 [SusanBTaylorBand ] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #623 ["Nina Pileggi" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 15:59:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Anne Sandstrom Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #616 ouch. The word 'former' before 'singer-songwriter' sounds sad. Hope that's not the case, Susan :-) lots of love,Anne on May 05, 2014, SusanBTaylorBand wrote: I would like to join in on some conversations. As former singer-songwriter myself, Joni Mitchell was a great influence when I was young starting out. Susan from DFW, TX Sent from my iPad > On May 5, 2014, at 9:38 AM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Monday, May 5 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 616 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Just curious ... who's still here? [Richard Flynn > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 10:30:18 -0400 > From: Richard Flynn > Subject: Re: Just curious ... who's still here? > > I'm here! > > Richard Flynn > Professor of Literature > Georgia Southern University > https://sites.google.com/a/georgiasouthern.edu/rflynn > http://georgiasouthern.academia.edu/RichardFlynn > >> On May 5, 2014, at 8:51 AM, "Mark" wrote: >> >> I'm still here occasionally contributing my two cents worth. Of course I have a way of spreading two cents a long way on the rare occasions when I do post. >> >> Dive back in, Lori. I miss your input. >> >> Mark in Seattle. >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Lori Renee Fye >> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2014 8:44 PM >> To: Joni List >> Subject: Just curious ... who's still here? >> >> I would've marked this email NJC but then not everyone would receive it. >> >> Who's still here? Just wondering. >> >> Lori, >> who quietly returned recently, >> writing from Caldwell, Idaho > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #616 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:54:42 -0500 From: SusanBTaylorBand Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #645 Anybody know whether Chuck Mitchell ever published anything? Ha! Susan Sent from my iPad > On May 5, 2014, at 1:36 PM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Monday, May 5 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 645 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Both Sides Now [Laura O ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 05 May 2014 13:35:58 -0500 > From: Laura O > Subject: Both Sides Now > > Joni says in an interview here (talking about Chuck Mitchell): > http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1588&from=search > > "She wrote the precociously world-weary Both Sides Now as a mere > 21-year-old, much to the disdain of her then husband Chuck Mitchell. "I > was married to a man who had a degree in literature, who knew I'd never > read anything and basically thought I was stupid," she says. "He married > the package and thought he'd svengali a brain into it. He married what > he was pretty certain was a dumb blonde. When I wrote Both Sides Now, he > said, 'What do you know about life? You're only 21.' Well, I had lived > quite a bit. I'd survived quite a few diseases." > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #645 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 16:03:20 -0500 From: Laura Stanley Subject: Joni Mitchell - Lakota (Live Italy 1988) Master prayer. http://youtu.be/jDFeQIBA5hw Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 14:30:58 -0500 From: Laura Stanley Subject: Chuck Mitchell Hi Susan, Yes he has. And he's masterful, which isn't surprising considering Joni at one time picked him. Music is nuanced by the experiences and preferences of the listeners, but beyond that is a perfection that transcends opinion. I find that with Chuck's talent. Bringing it into the present moment here: Chuck Mitchell - actor, singer and guitarist https://www.mitchellsong.com/ Loving life, Laura SusanBTaylorBand Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #645 Anybody know whether Chuck Mitchell ever published anything? Ha! Susan Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 21:02:38 +0100 (BST) From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" Subject: Is there anybody there? SJC All, said the Traveller, / Knocking on the moonlit door; / And his horse in the silence champed the grasses / Of the forest's ferny floor: Something Joni could have written about herself. She probably liked Walter de la Mere. Re the other discussion CMIARS is something I've only listened to a couple of times. John ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 14:57:48 -0400 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: who is still here? Hi beautiful joni people, I am here. My vocabulary word for today is ecology. What I wrote on the green chalk board: Ecology is the study of the detrimental effects of human, "modern civilization" on the environment. . . . with a view toward reversal through prevention and conservation (then I threw in some talk about remediation and rebuilding ALL OF IT IS IMPORTANT or none of it is and how I care about all the fishes in the deep blue sea and all the animals, yeah and the humans and the wetlands, why would they think they could move wetlands? and the oceans and air and well they were done listening after that. They are making their "green inspiration" posters! Well, we could start a thread on all the references to ecology and preservation that joni sings all the earth caring things. . . . we've got to get ourselves back to the garden stardust/golden I care when I was 13 I have a friend named Kelly who was 11 and we had this button that said "I care." it was smaller than a nickel and we only had one. It was back and white and we used to share it. . one week she would wear it and one week I would wear it. we cared we still care . . ps. I love the ecology flag ( I made up a small poster of the flag during 1st period so they could see it) Marianne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 16:36:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Ivice Subject: masterwork On 05/05/14 08:5018, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: >> I just don't think it's fair to label something as a masterwork 'just >> because' one says so. >> >> You can refer to Citizen Kane, Rhapsody In Blue, The Mona Lisa, Gone With >> The Wind, The Sistine Chapel, To Kill A Mockingbird as masterworks and >> nobody would bat an eye because they are recognized as such over time. I >> think it dilutes the meaning of the word to put CMIARS in that category. I agree, Bob, that the designation of a masterwork comes from a consensus, not an individual. Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 13:51:52 -0500 From: SusanBTaylorBand Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #642 Good luck Anne, please shae with us when you are ready. Susan Sent from my iPad > On May 5, 2014, at 1:12 PM, owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Monday, May 5 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 642 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Just curious ... who's still here? [Anne Sandstrom > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 15:45:30 +0000 (UTC) > From: Anne Sandstrom > Subject: Re: Just curious ... who's still here? > > Great to see you in m in box, Lori! I'm still here, but mostly lurk these > days. I've been super busy recording a CD of my own music, but it means > Joni's been on my mind a lot lately. The CD whose sound I'm most trying > to capture is LOTC. We're getting closer (but limited somewhat because we > recorded in in our home studio. I have friends who were boasting about > using a $12,000 microphone in their recording. All our equipment and > instruments barely add up to more than that!) lots of love,Anne > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #642 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 21:27:48 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: CMIARS a masterwork? As an eager student of Joni's guitar style I have to request that Turbulent Indigo be considered a masterwork by this lofty group (or the ages)! Just my two cents! :-) I find it to be the apex of her exquisite acoustic guitar craft. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 9:31 AM To: djp@davidjphillips.org Cc: Jamie Zubairi Home; Joni JMDL; ingrid lochrenberg Subject: Re: CMIARS a masterwork? That's a good point, David and it is indeed ONE definition of the word. Using that definition you could successfully contend that STAS was a masterwork; that is it proved that she could hold her own with her fellow artists of the times. By the same token, the other definition (and connotation) is the finest or most outstanding work of a specific artist. Which takes us to Betsy's description whereas Blue and Hejira (and Court and Spark) would fall into that category. Neither definition supports CMIARS as a masterwork. Doesn't mean you shouldn't like it or even say that it's your favorite though. 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Thanks for your Namaste, Bob! I have never seen Joni live. Why did Song for Sharon make me get teary eyed? I am not entirely sure. I was listening to Hejira straight though and most of the songs were new to me. The emotional weightiness of the album seemed to build. I struggled with many of the issues she sings about in SFS and her vocals had so much emotion in them. Just got to me I guess! Nina From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com [mailto:Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 10:59 AM To: Nina Pileggi Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #623 That's a great story, Nina - I too remember Judy Collins' hit but didn't really appreciate the song until I heard Joni's version from Clouds which I didn't hear until the late 80's. Let me echo Lori's welcome! Speaking of BSN, 958 versions later I have to say that I am VERY aware of the song. I wonder when we'll reach 1000 covers of it. It continues to be a very popular standard. Namaste. 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