From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #145 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, May 3 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 145 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Pirate of Penance [kbhla@fastmail.fm] Re: Pirate of Penance [lawntreader@googlemail.com] Retro Covers, Volume 106 [Bob Muller ] Re: 10 of the best, maturity [lawntreader@googlemail.com] Re: Pirate of Penance [kbhla@fastmail.fm] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 03 May 2014 14:26:42 -0700 From: kbhla@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: Pirate of Penance It was incredible! All these years the only Joni I've heard played in a store, etc., is Big Yellow Taxi, Chelsea Morning, BSN or sometimes River. I was also amazed they played a couple of lesser known James Taylor love songs in between the Joni. When I have a chance I'm going to go back there and try to find out who "dials in" the music. Then I'm going to ask that person if they are part of the "inner circle" here! ;-) Kakki On Sat, May 3, 2014, at 01:18 AM, lawntreader@googlemail.com wrote: > That is amazing - don't think I've ever hear PoP whilst I have been out > anywhere, though there have been several occasions when a Joni song has > come on somewhere just when I have needed it. > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 09:18:14 +0100 From: lawntreader@googlemail.com Subject: Re: Pirate of Penance That is amazing - don't think I've ever hear PoP whilst I have been out anywhere, though there have been several occasions when a Joni song has come on somewhere just when I have needed it. Anita > On 3 May 2014, at 00:20, kbhla@fastmail.fm wrote: > > O.K. this is too freaky. I took my mom to lunch at a very unique market > in the downtown L.A. Arts District today and in the background they were > surprisingly playing all my favorite obscure Joni - like cuts off FTR > and an occasional obscure James Taylor song. This is a place mostly for > millionaire bohemians, e.g., special imported meats and cheeses go for > $30-$80/lb., but the lunches are inexpensive. We bought a few > reasonably > priced items in the market and as we were checking out, Pirate of > Penance started playing. I couldn't believe it! Maybe someone who > works there is one of us here! ;-) > > Song to a Seagull has always been right up in my top 3 Joni albums > and I love it all because it totally blew my mind when I first > heard it at age 14. > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 3 May 2014 05:56:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Retro Covers, Volume 106 Hey everybody - back this week after traveling traveling last weekend...here's the next one in the nest, Volume 106 for those of you playing catch-up. And it's a nice one to have; some rarities and lots of pretty stuff. http://bit.ly/ReFFqc 1. Herbie Hancock with Sonya Kitchell - All I Want 2. Burkhard Wolters - Both Sides Now 3. Imani - Blue Motel Room 4. Donna Griffin - The Circle Game 5. Shanley Wang - Goodbye Pork Pie Hat 6. Laura Luca - Mani Su Di Me (Morning Morgantown) 7. Frank Shofner featuring Samantha Newark - Both Sides Now 8. Jenny Goodspeed - The Arrangement 9. Marian Call - Chelsea Morning 10. Liz Carlisle - The Circle Game 11. Liz Carlisle - Both Sides Now 12. Dawn Langstroth - A Case Of You 13. Lola Youngman - Twisted 14. Andrea Burns - Chelsea Morning 15. Ulli Boegershausen - Both Sides Now 16. Little Gas - Big Yellow Taxi 17. Little Gas - Morning Morgantown 18. Bill & Susan Weiske - The Circle Game 19. Paula Marchesini - All I Want 20. Alfred Hause & His Orchestra - Both Sides Now 20 songs, 20 hits! Enjoy. Bob NP: Deleted Scenes - "Let's Not Try To Fix Everything At Once" ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 10:28:39 +0100 From: lawntreader@googlemail.com Subject: Re: 10 of the best, maturity Mark, Gilbert and Sullivan are well known for their light operettas, but also undertook more serious (less successful) work together, separately and with others,too. I love your ideas about the shadows and light in STAS. As for PoP, you can, to my ears, clearly hear Joni refer rhythmically to the Major General's Song ("I am the very model of a modern Major General etc.) from the Pirates of Penzance in PoP in the line "Go ask the dancer she's the one who saw him last etc", though her notes are more minor than major (I think). The story of the Pirates of Penzance is of a young lad being apprenticed to a pirate when his nurse mishears the word 'pilot'. A comedy of errors with Love at its heart. Not so far from "Talk to me"! Anita > On 2 May 2014, at 05:13, "Mark" wrote: > > I'm not a big Gilbert and Sullivan aficionado but weren't they known for light, comic fare? I would hardly call 'Pirate of Penance' either light or comic. But I'm sure there must be a similarity in the musical form that others are referring to in their comparisons. > > I'm just going to throw this out there, but maybe 'Pirate of Penance' is a counterbalance to 'Night in the City' and, to a lesser extent, 'Michael From Mountains'. The dark side of 'Out of the City and Down to the Seaside'. > > Except for 'Night in the City' and 'Michael From Mountains', 'I Came to the City' is about unhappy circumstances. 'I Had a King is about breaking up (or divorce). 'Marcie' is about abandonment. 'Nathan La Franeer' is disillusionment with the city itself as the singer rides in a cab with a mean-spirited cab driver on her way out of it. Even 'Michael From Mountains' is a song about a less than satisfactory romance with a man she will never completely understand because 'his mountains have called, so you never do'. 'Night in the City' is the one song that actually celebrates life in the city without reservation. > > Although the second half has the title track about unfulfilled dreams and the conundrum of how to love when you're 'too busy being free' closing out the record in 'Cactus Tree', there is really nothing essentially negative about the world that 'The Dawntreader' calls her to 'leave behind your streets' for except in 'Pirate of Penance'. Deception, lies, jealousy, and murder are not found in any of the other songs set at the Seaside. Quite melodramatic, but I still like the song. And like Anita, I love that eerie, haunting voice coming up out of the shadows singing 'I don't know' in reply to the insisting 'Go ask the dancer, she knows the answer' at the end of the song. But then I like a bit of well-turned melodrama from time to time. > > Just a thought. > > Mark in Seattle > > -----Original Message----- From: lawntreader@googlemail.com > Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 9:58 AM > To: Susan E. McNamara > Cc: Dave Blackburn ; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com ; Betsy Blue ; JMDL JMDL ; Mark Scott > Subject: Re: 10 of the best, maturity > > Perhaps because I played the part of Ruth in the Pirates of Penzance in 1968, or perhaps I was listening to more classical stuff than pop (until Her Joniness) at that time, I have always found PoP intriguing, a bit like Bobbie Gentry's Ode to Billie Joe. I found it so romantic and dark all at once at the time and that feeling has never left me. Reading what you guys think about it, maybe it is a little show offie, but then our girl has a lot to show off! And that odd ending note "I don't know....." > Go Penance, Go Penance, Go Penance! > Anita (feeling confident that I have never said all this about this song ever!) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 May 2014 16:20:05 -0700 From: kbhla@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: Pirate of Penance O.K. this is too freaky. I took my mom to lunch at a very unique market in the downtown L.A. Arts District today and in the background they were surprisingly playing all my favorite obscure Joni - like cuts off FTR and an occasional obscure James Taylor song. This is a place mostly for millionaire bohemians, e.g., special imported meats and cheeses go for $30-$80/lb., but the lunches are inexpensive. We bought a few reasonably priced items in the market and as we were checking out, Pirate of Penance started playing. I couldn't believe it! Maybe someone who works there is one of us here! ;-) Song to a Seagull has always been right up in my top 3 Joni albums and I love it all because it totally blew my mind when I first heard it at age 14. Kakki ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #145 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe