From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #143 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, May 2 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 143 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: 10 of the best, maturity [Shari ] fantasy albums [Betsy Blue ] The Pirate of Penance [Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com] Re: 10 of the best, maturity [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] re: Joni mentioned in Tori Amos concert review [Betsy Blue ] RE: 10 of the best, maturity ["Susan E. McNamara" ] RE: 10 of the best, maturity ["Susan E. McNamara" ] RE: 10 of the best, maturity ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: 10 of the best, maturity [Dave Blackburn ] Fwd: Joni mentioned in Tori Amos concert review [Mariana Intagliata ] RE: 10 of the best, maturity [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: The Guardian 10 of Joni's best [lawntreader@googlemail.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #564 [Laurie Antonioli ] Subject: 10 of the best, maturity [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] Re: The Guardian 10 of Joni's best [kbhla@fastmail.fm] RE: Joni mentioned in Tori Amos concert review ["ron" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 07:13:37 -0700 From: Shari Subject: Re: 10 of the best, maturity Pirates of Penance and Gift of the Magi fall together, in my opinion. Perhaps they're more girly but I LOVE them. Just pure beauty. > On May 1, 2014, at 7:02, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > Pirates of Penance is an amazing feat of singing ... I think she plays at > least 4 characters in that song> > > That's the detractor for me...too "show-offy" and not enough substance, > and a melody that does not settle easily on the ear. She included several > songs on STAS that do a much better job of that like "Nathan". When I hear > the luscious songs she left behind to include PoP, I still see it as an > error on her part. > > Bob > > NP: Steve Earle, "Copperhead Road" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 07:55:27 -0700 From: Betsy Blue Subject: fantasy albums Bob et al., I would have preferred Eastern Rain to PoP on STAS. But there are enough good (what I consider folk) songs to fill another album. So maybe Gift of the Magi could replace Night in the City. Cactus Tree would be the new single. NitC, along with Born to Take the Highway (single), Just Like Me, Day After Day, Blue on Blue, Play Little David, Come to the Sunshine, Brandy Eyes, Carnival in Kenora, The Way It Is, and Hunter would be my fantasy album. Of course, I have just ruined the concept of STAS in addition to creating a less than spectacular album. No doubt most of you could do better. Betsy On May 1, 2014 7:02 AM, wrote: > > Pirates of Penance is an amazing feat of singing ... When I hear the luscious songs she left behind to include PoP, I still see it as an error on her part. > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 17:03:22 -0400 From: Stewart.Simon@sunlife.com Subject: The Pirate of Penance It is the low point of STAS. > And I totally agree even if it's just my thought. For a LONG time it was the ONLY track on STAS not covered by anyone. I was thinking (and willing to be and glad that I didn't) that it would NEVER be covered but it got a nice jazz treatment by Joce Mienniel in 2012. Bob I love The Pirate of Penance and STAS is one of my favorite albums Bob - If your looking for another good cover of POP - check this one out. http://www.last.fm/music/Joni+Mitchell/_/The+Pirate+of+Penance - --------------------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail message (including attachments, if any) is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, proprietary , confidential and exempt from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. 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Tori is just more theatrical. > "Watching Tori Amos live is, I imagine, similar to what witnessing Joni > Mitchell in concert would feel like. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 14:22:20 +0100 From: lawntreader@googlemail.com Subject: Re: 10 of the best, maturity Like you, Mark, I continue to be stunned by what I experience as the ethereal quality inherent to STAS. Even the much derided 'Pirate of Penance ' is close to my heart and I have banged on and on for years here about how stunned I was as a 14 year old back in 1968 hear the unbelievably orchestral guitar parts. All I heard in those days were standard G,C and F chords, it seemed. Then STAS comes along, played by a WOMAN! I couldn't believe it. Anita (wondering how long it will be till I tell that story again :-)) thanking you in advance for your kind patience) > On 1 May 2014, at 05:19, "Mark" wrote: > > I can't remember the exact context but in the Luminato Time Talks interview with John Pareles, after talking about 'Song to a Seagull', John Pareles started to ask Joni something about her 'more mature albums'. She stopped him and said 'That was a mature album'. > > I think there was some applause from the audience. I certainly would have applauded. I love 'STAS', one of my all time favorite albums. That record has a haunting beauty to it that always pulls me in. I'm no musician but I've been on the JMDL long enough to learn a bit of how to appreciate what she was doing with the guitar and the unique quality of those melodies. All so magically matched with her words. The guitar lines on 'I Had a King' and that beautiful arpeggio at the beginning of 'The Dawntreader' are sublime. > > Mark in Seattle > > -----Original Message----- From: Susan E. McNamara > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 6:10 PM > To: Betsy Blue ; joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: 10 of the best, maturity > > I have read and listened to many interviews and concerts where she completely dismisses her pre-70s songs and finds them childish. I would just like to say that I've talked to many fine musicians who think that Song To A Seagull is a masterpiece. There have been many jazz versions of I Had A King and almost all of the songs have a sublime quality to them for such a young artist. In the end, does it really matter what Joni says about this work, or is the music itself the judge? I personally think Marcie is a perfect song. > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Betsy Blue > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:28 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: 10 of the best, maturity > > "Mitchell is relentless in making her younger self seem callow and stupid. > Where the 26-year-old Joni had seemed so confident that she was trilling precious wisdom, smug in her bubble of precocity, the 56-year-old Joni turns the words back on her without sympathy." > > This is specifically about BSN 2000, but I wonder if current Joni is starting to cut young Joni some slack. I recall hearing something in an interview about reflexively dismissing her earlier work. > > http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/apr/30/joni-mitchell-10-of-the-best?CMP=twt_gu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 10:02:25 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: 10 of the best, maturity Pirates of Penance is an amazing feat of singing ... I think she plays at least 4 characters in that song> That's the detractor for me...too "show-offy" and not enough substance, and a melody that does not settle easily on the ear. She included several songs on STAS that do a much better job of that like "Nathan". When I hear the luscious songs she left behind to include PoP, I still see it as an error on her part. Bob NP: Steve Earle, "Copperhead Road" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 14:48:54 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: 10 of the best, maturity I think they may have both loved the vocal acrobatics!! {Love Todd} Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: Dave Blackburn [mailto:beatntrack@att.net] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 10:37 AM To: Susan E. McNamara Cc: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; Betsy Blue; JMDL JMDL; Anita G; Mark Scott Subject: Re: 10 of the best, maturity Just as Todd Rundgren's Gilbert and Sullivan excursion on "Todd" ("The Lord Chancellor's Nightmare Song") was the low point of that album. A pattern perhaps? On May 1, 2014, at 7:20 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > I agree Bob, but during her cafi days, she had this fascination with Gilbert and Sullivan choruses, like with Gift of the Magi, so it was part of the remnants of her folky days. Plus it meshed with her seaside theme. It is the low point of STAS. > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 14:21:03 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: 10 of the best, maturity Shari, I mentioned GOTM before I read your note. Cool. :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: Shari [mailto:shari@sharieaton.com] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 10:14 AM To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Cc: Susan E. McNamara; Betsy Blue; ; lawntreader@googlemail.com; Mark Subject: Re: 10 of the best, maturity Pirates of Penance and Gift of the Magi fall together, in my opinion. Perhaps they're more girly but I LOVE them. Just pure beauty. > On May 1, 2014, at 7:02, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > Pirates of Penance is an amazing feat of singing ... I think she plays > at least 4 characters in that song> > > That's the detractor for me...too "show-offy" and not enough > substance, and a melody that does not settle easily on the ear. She > included several songs on STAS that do a much better job of that like > "Nathan". When I hear the luscious songs she left behind to include > PoP, I still see it as an error on her part. > > Bob > > NP: Steve Earle, "Copperhead Road" > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity > to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, > business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby > notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this > message is prohibited. 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McNamara Cc: Betsy Blue; ; lawntreader@googlemail.com; Mark Subject: RE: 10 of the best, maturity Pirates of Penance is an amazing feat of singing ... I think she plays at least 4 characters in that song> That's the detractor for me...too "show-offy" and not enough substance, and a melody that does not settle easily on the ear. She included several songs on STAS that do a much better job of that like "Nathan". When I hear the luscious songs she left behind to include PoP, I still see it as an error on her part. Bob NP: Steve Earle, "Copperhead Road" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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I think she plays at least 4 characters in that song!! :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: lawntreader@googlemail.com [mailto:lawntreader@googlemail.com] Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 9:22 AM To: Mark Cc: Susan E. McNamara; Betsy Blue; Subject: Re: 10 of the best, maturity Like you, Mark, I continue to be stunned by what I experience as the ethereal quality inherent to STAS. Even the much derided 'Pirate of Penance ' is close to my heart and I have banged on and on for years here about how stunned I was as a 14 year old back in 1968 hear the unbelievably orchestral guitar parts. All I heard in those days were standard G,C and F chords, it seemed. Then STAS comes along, played by a WOMAN! I couldn't believe it. Anita (wondering how long it will be till I tell that story again :-)) thanking you in advance for your kind patience) > On 1 May 2014, at 05:19, "Mark" wrote: > > I can't remember the exact context but in the Luminato Time Talks interview with John Pareles, after talking about 'Song to a Seagull', John Pareles started to ask Joni something about her 'more mature albums'. She stopped him and said 'That was a mature album'. > > I think there was some applause from the audience. I certainly would have applauded. I love 'STAS', one of my all time favorite albums. That record has a haunting beauty to it that always pulls me in. I'm no musician but I've been on the JMDL long enough to learn a bit of how to appreciate what she was doing with the guitar and the unique quality of those melodies. All so magically matched with her words. The guitar lines on 'I Had a King' and that beautiful arpeggio at the beginning of 'The Dawntreader' are sublime. > > Mark in Seattle > > -----Original Message----- From: Susan E. McNamara > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 6:10 PM > To: Betsy Blue ; joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: 10 of the best, maturity > > I have read and listened to many interviews and concerts where she completely dismisses her pre-70s songs and finds them childish. I would just like to say that I've talked to many fine musicians who think that Song To A Seagull is a masterpiece. There have been many jazz versions of I Had A King and almost all of the songs have a sublime quality to them for such a young artist. In the end, does it really matter what Joni says about this work, or is the music itself the judge? I personally think Marcie is a perfect song. > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Betsy Blue > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 12:28 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: 10 of the best, maturity > > "Mitchell is relentless in making her younger self seem callow and stupid. > Where the 26-year-old Joni had seemed so confident that she was trilling precious wisdom, smug in her bubble of precocity, the 56-year-old Joni turns the words back on her without sympathy." > > This is specifically about BSN 2000, but I wonder if current Joni is starting to cut young Joni some slack. I recall hearing something in an interview about reflexively dismissing her earlier work. > > http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/apr/30/joni-mitchell-10-of-the-best?CMP=twt_gu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 07:36:40 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: 10 of the best, maturity Just as Todd Rundgrens Gilbert and Sullivan excursion on Todd (The Lord Chancellors Nightmare Song) was the low point of that album. A pattern perhaps? On May 1, 2014, at 7:20 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > I agree Bob, but during her cafi days, she had this fascination with Gilbert and Sullivan choruses, like with Gift of the Magi, so it was part of the remnants of her folky days. Plus it meshed with her seaside theme. It is the low point of STAS. > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 19:16:26 -0300 From: Mariana Intagliata Subject: Fwd: Joni mentioned in Tori Amos concert review This is part of the review of Tori's concert at Rough Trade NYC that was published by the Village Voice today. It was written by Brittany Spanos. "Watching Tori Amos live is, I imagine, similar to what witnessing Joni Mitchell in concert would feel like. Clad in dueling shades of green that were offset by her burst of signature red hair and cat-eye glasses, the artist played the role of playful raconteur from the moment she sat at her piano, gesticulating wildly when the story needed her to and letting her vocal range drive the emotional undertones of her songs. It takes seeing her in concert to truly appreciate the tricks her words, voice, and piano can play in unison." The full article can be read here http://blogs.villagevoice.com/music/2014/04/tori_amos_rough_trade.php?utm_source=Newsletters&utm_medium=email Mariana ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 21:13:54 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: 10 of the best, maturity I'm not a big Gilbert and Sullivan aficionado but weren't they known for light, comic fare? I would hardly call 'Pirate of Penance' either light or comic. But I'm sure there must be a similarity in the musical form that others are referring to in their comparisons. I'm just going to throw this out there, but maybe 'Pirate of Penance' is a counterbalance to 'Night in the City' and, to a lesser extent, 'Michael From Mountains'. The dark side of 'Out of the City and Down to the Seaside'. Except for 'Night in the City' and 'Michael From Mountains', 'I Came to the City' is about unhappy circumstances. 'I Had a King is about breaking up (or divorce). 'Marcie' is about abandonment. 'Nathan La Franeer' is disillusionment with the city itself as the singer rides in a cab with a mean-spirited cab driver on her way out of it. Even 'Michael From Mountains' is a song about a less than satisfactory romance with a man she will never completely understand because 'his mountains have called, so you never do'. 'Night in the City' is the one song that actually celebrates life in the city without reservation. Although the second half has the title track about unfulfilled dreams and the conundrum of how to love when you're 'too busy being free' closing out the record in 'Cactus Tree', there is really nothing essentially negative about the world that 'The Dawntreader' calls her to 'leave behind your streets' for except in 'Pirate of Penance'. Deception, lies, jealousy, and murder are not found in any of the other songs set at the Seaside. Quite melodramatic, but I still like the song. And like Anita, I love that eerie, haunting voice coming up out of the shadows singing 'I don't know' in reply to the insisting 'Go ask the dancer, she knows the answer' at the end of the song. But then I like a bit of well-turned melodrama from time to time. Just a thought. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: lawntreader@googlemail.com Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2014 9:58 AM To: Susan E. McNamara Cc: Dave Blackburn ; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com ; Betsy Blue ; JMDL JMDL ; Mark Scott Subject: Re: 10 of the best, maturity Perhaps because I played the part of Ruth in the Pirates of Penzance in 1968, or perhaps I was listening to more classical stuff than pop (until Her Joniness) at that time, I have always found PoP intriguing, a bit like Bobbie Gentry's Ode to Billie Joe. I found it so romantic and dark all at once at the time and that feeling has never left me. Reading what you guys think about it, maybe it is a little show offie, but then our girl has a lot to show off! And that odd ending note "I don't know....." Go Penance, Go Penance, Go Penance! Anita (feeling confident that I have never said all this about this song ever!) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 10:42:44 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: 10 of the best, maturity It is the low point of STAS. > And I totally agree even if it's just my thought. For a LONG time it was the ONLY track on STAS not covered by anyone. I was thinking (and willing to be and glad that I didn't) that it would NEVER be covered but it got a nice jazz treatment by Joce Mienniel in 2012. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 21:59:34 +0100 From: lawntreader@googlemail.com Subject: Re: The Guardian 10 of Joni's best Just read meself sounding like a right divvy. The Guardian is a leftie paper so tends to agree with my world view (so I buy it) and strikes me as thoughtful and,yes, insightful, Anita > On 30 Apr 2014, at 21:48, lawntreader@googlemail.com wrote: > >> On 30 Apr 2014, at 20:49, kbhla@fastmail.fm wrote: >> I can't recall ever reading such insightful discussion of Joni's songs >> outside of this list. > > That's the Guardian for you. The only newspaper I buy, > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:35:47 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #564 Must say I love the fact that Joni has inspired an article, once again, of such detailed interpretations of her music. I agree with much of what this author has to say - and yes, Shari - it opens up discussion rather than creating any kind of definitive conclusion or "list," for sure. I don't really care to identify what is "best" in Joni's work as it's an evolution and as she changes, so does the music. Just like Miles Davis. People wanted Miles to keep playing "My Funny Valentine" but he couldn't. Wouldn't. It even hurt, somehow, to keep playing ballads like that, and he said so. For me, all I hear in these songs is the truth. Reported through an incredibly sophisticated artistic lens. I relate to so much of these early lyrics: Hissing of Summer Lawns and Rainy Night House. Growing up in California - in Marin County - those words described the landscape here in the 60's and 70's to a "t" - they are like little movies that tell those stories. The visuals run through my mind when listening or singing them. She captured it all in her music. So brilliant it takes my breath away. Really. All to say - bravo to a well-written article in a major publication about Joni. She always deserves to be recognized. Laurie On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 5:50 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, April 30 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 564 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > The Guardian 10 of Joni's best [Shari < > shari@sharieaton.com>] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 05:43:53 -0700 > From: Shari > Subject: The Guardian 10 of Joni's best > > > http://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2014/apr/30/joni-mitchell-10-of-th > e-best?CMP=twt_gu > > I see this list as more of a base for discussion than word. Nice to see > someone do a more intellectual piece on her writing. > > Lots of Joni, > Shari > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #564 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 17:45:01 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Subject: 10 of the best, maturity Funny, that's not the way I remember Joni in 2000, when BSN was new. I remember she said that BSN is best sung by someone who's a little older, because it is ABOUT looking back. Jim >Mitchell is relentless in making her younger self seem callow and stupid. Where the 26-year-old Joni had seemed so confident that she was trilling precious wisdom, smug in her bubble of precocity, the 56-year-old Joni turns the words back on her without sympathy.> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2014 14:52:09 -0700 From: kbhla@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: The Guardian 10 of Joni's best Of course I noticed that, but it was so well-written and great to read, it didn't matter to me - this time ;-) Kakki On Wed, Apr 30, 2014, at 02:03 PM, [1]Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: I thought about you Kakki when I saw that there was NOTHING from FTR (!) I would certainly have included Ludwig aka Joni Symphony #1. At least the comments leaned heavily toward FTR songs. Anytime you make a list of this nature you're gonna end up with a face palm when you see what you missed. Bob NP: Tori Amos, "Famous Blue Raincoat" References 1. mailto:Bob.Muller@Fluor.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 May 2014 07:20:52 +0200 From: "ron" Subject: RE: Joni mentioned in Tori Amos concert review Mariana wrote: "This is part of the review of Tori's concert at Rough Trade NYC that was published by the Village Voice today. It was written by Brittany Spanos." I have got tickets to see tori here in june. I missed her last time she was here, this time I bought tickets the same day they were announced.. Can't wait... Ron ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #143 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe