From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #48 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, February 13 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 048 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Song for Sharon question [Shari Eaton ] Re: Song for Sharon question [Anita ] Re: Song for Sharon question [Anita ] Re: Song for Sharon question [Anita ] Re: Joni Mitchell 2nd Fret Sets [simon@icu.com] Re: Song for Sharon question [Sally ] RE: Song for Sharon question ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: Song for Sharon question [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Song for Sharon question ["johnnybgoode@lineone.net" ] Re: Song for Sharon question [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Song for Sharon question [Bob Muller ] WMMR-fm Radio Retrospective - Music for DownLoading [simon@icu.com] Re: Song for Sharon question [Shari Eaton ] Re: Song for Sharon question [Shari Eaton ] Re: Song for Sharon question [Sally ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 04:09:46 -0800 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question To buy myself a man(dolin) Well I do (accept the changes) Definitely agree it's about her coming to terms with her inability to have a devoted love relationship due to her career. The diamond snake image makes me think of For the Roses. She says her career provides her with things she's not ready to give up, though she feels she suffers from the consequences of it. The riches in the diamonds and the clutching grasp of a snake on her arm like an ankle monitor of an at home prisoner. The apple of temptation is fairly straightforward I suppose. I always equate apple to knowledge and think of it positively but it's likely related to desire to know men in a sexual way. - - Shari > On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:47 AM, "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" wrote: > > All, > > I think that the protagonist(Joni)is saying that she has too many > romantic and sexual opportunities (apple of temptation)and I think > that the diamond snake is vanity (diamond -reference to diamond ring) > and snake is selfishness and unreliability. > As the whole song is about > justification of her life choices /coming to terms with the realisation > that she has lost the opportunity to have a life similar to Sharon,it > is an either or metaphor in a song stuffed with direct comparisons > between their lives. > > John > > >> ----Original Message---- >> From: > shari@sharieaton.com >> Date: 13/02/2014 04:44 >> To: "joni" > >> Subj: Song for Sharon question >> >> Just curious .. How do you interpret > her saying 'I've got the apple of temptation and a diamond snake around > my arm.' >> >> >> - Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 18:42:53 +0000 From: Anita Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question Wow, Robin got to wear it! Weren't you tempted to wear it yourself, Dave? The band were all men. Anita On 13 Feb 2014, at 18:18, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Yes, Joni designed it. > > > On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Anita wrote: > >> I just love this list when you get something, like this jewellery, that is just so interesting. What a gift for your band. I wonder if other musicians give their bands something so unique. Like Sue, I wonder if it Joni's design. So glad you took some pictures,Dave. >> >> Glad it's "balmy" in Fullbrook. My Mum's old house and the council estate where I grew up was just on the national news. It's under water and the entire area, including my old school is submerged. The rain and winds just keep coming and coming. >> Anita >>> e.net; JMDL JMDL >>> Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question >>> >>> And, in true Joni fashion Id be pretty sure that the apple and snake are literally a piece of jewelry that she designed and had made. Max Bennett showed us the medallion she designed and had fashioned, and gave as gifts to her L.A Express members. It was an elaborate two-sided design with iconography from the songs of The Hissing of Summer Lawns. Rather than describe it in detail, here are my close ups of it: >>> >>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cw339ymjshlqqn4/YaWYkP4zlC >>> >>> barmy and balmy in Fallbrook, >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 5:21 AM, Bob Muller wrote: >>> >>>> Well, it's definitely a reference to the biblical tale of Adam & Eve, >>>> with the "apple of temptation" and the snake and all that. >>>> >>>> The verse starts with Joni >>>> rattling off what Sharon has that Joni perhaps craved at one point, >>>> but the devilish snake (the diamonds representing wealth possibly) and >>>> the apple (fruit of knowledge) are too strong a draw for her to accept >>>> the status quo for herself and doing what she's told, or what's expected of her by others. >>>> Bob, snow-slammed in in SC but warm & safe >>>> >>>> NP: Dianne Reeves, "Waiting In >>>> Vain" >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> From: Shari Eaton >>>> >>>> To: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" >>>> >>>> Cc: joni >>>> Sent: Thursday, February >>>> 13, 2014 7:09 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question >>>> >>>> >>>> To buy myself a >>>> man(dolin) >>>> >>>> Well I do (accept the changes) >>>> >>>> Definitely agree it's about her >>>> coming to terms with her inability to have a devoted love relationship >>>> due to her career. >>>> >>>> The diamond snake image makes me think of For the Roses. She says her >>>> career provides her with things she's not ready to give up, though she >>>> feels she suffers from the consequences of it. The riches in the >>>> diamonds and the clutching grasp of a snake on her arm like an ankle >>>> monitor of an at home prisoner. >>>> >>>> The apple of temptation is fairly straightforward I suppose. >>>> I always equate apple to knowledge and think of it positively but it's >>>> likely related to desire to know men in a sexual way. >>>> >>>> - Shari >>>> >>>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at >>>> 12:47 AM, "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>> All, >>>>> >>>>> I think that the protagonist(Joni)is saying that she has too many >>>>> >>>> romantic and sexual opportunities (apple of temptation)and I think >>>>> that >>>> the diamond snake is vanity (diamond -reference to diamond ring) >>>>> and snake >>>> is selfishness and unreliability. >>>>> As the whole song is about >>>>> >>>> justification of her life choices /coming to terms with the >>>> realisation >>>>> >>>> that she has lost the opportunity to have a life similar to Sharon,it >>>>> is an >>>> either or metaphor in a song stuffed with direct comparisons >>>>> between their >>>> lives. >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> ----Original Message---- >>>>>> From: >>>>> >>>> shari@sharieaton.com >>>>>> Date: 13/02/2014 04:44 >>>>>> To: "joni" >>>>> >>>>>> Subj: Song for Sharon question >>>>>> >>>>>> Just curious .. How do you interpret >>>>> her saying 'I've got the apple of temptation and a diamond snake >>>>> around >>>>> >>>> my arm.' >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> - Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 18:03:29 +0000 From: Anita Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question I just love this list when you get something, like this jewellery, that is just so interesting. What a gift for your band. I wonder if other musicians give their bands something so unique. Like Sue, I wonder if it Joni's design. So glad you took some pictures,Dave. Glad it's "balmy" in Fullbrook. My Mum's old house and the council estate where I grew up was just on the national news. It's under water and the entire area, including my old school is submerged. The rain and winds just keep coming and coming. Anita > e.net; JMDL JMDL > Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question > > And, in true Joni fashion Id be pretty sure that the apple and snake are literally a piece of jewelry that she designed and had made. Max Bennett showed us the medallion she designed and had fashioned, and gave as gifts to her L.A Express members. It was an elaborate two-sided design with iconography from the songs of The Hissing of Summer Lawns. Rather than describe it in detail, here are my close ups of it: > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cw339ymjshlqqn4/YaWYkP4zlC > > barmy and balmy in Fallbrook, > > Dave > > > > On Feb 13, 2014, at 5:21 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > >> Well, it's definitely a reference to the biblical tale of Adam & Eve, >> with the "apple of temptation" and the snake and all that. >> >> The verse starts with Joni >> rattling off what Sharon has that Joni perhaps craved at one point, >> but the devilish snake (the diamonds representing wealth possibly) and >> the apple (fruit of knowledge) are too strong a draw for her to accept >> the status quo for herself and doing what she's told, or what's expected of her by others. >> Bob, snow-slammed in in SC but warm & safe >> >> NP: Dianne Reeves, "Waiting In >> Vain" >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Shari Eaton >> >> To: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" >> >> Cc: joni >> Sent: Thursday, February >> 13, 2014 7:09 AM >> Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question >> >> >> To buy myself a >> man(dolin) >> >> Well I do (accept the changes) >> >> Definitely agree it's about her >> coming to terms with her inability to have a devoted love relationship >> due to her career. >> >> The diamond snake image makes me think of For the Roses. She says her >> career provides her with things she's not ready to give up, though she >> feels she suffers from the consequences of it. The riches in the >> diamonds and the clutching grasp of a snake on her arm like an ankle >> monitor of an at home prisoner. >> >> The apple of temptation is fairly straightforward I suppose. >> I always equate apple to knowledge and think of it positively but it's >> likely related to desire to know men in a sexual way. >> >> - Shari >> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at >> 12:47 AM, "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" wrote: >>> >>> >> All, >>> >>> I think that the protagonist(Joni)is saying that she has too many >>> >> romantic and sexual opportunities (apple of temptation)and I think >>> that >> the diamond snake is vanity (diamond -reference to diamond ring) >>> and snake >> is selfishness and unreliability. >>> As the whole song is about >>> >> justification of her life choices /coming to terms with the >> realisation >>> >> that she has lost the opportunity to have a life similar to Sharon,it >>> is an >> either or metaphor in a song stuffed with direct comparisons >>> between their >> lives. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>>> ----Original Message---- >>>> From: >>> >> shari@sharieaton.com >>>> Date: 13/02/2014 04:44 >>>> To: "joni" >>> >>>> Subj: Song for Sharon question >>>> >>>> Just curious .. How do you interpret >>> her saying 'I've got the apple of temptation and a diamond snake >>> around >>> >> my arm.' >>>> >>>> >>>> - Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:47:24 +0000 From: Anita Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question An incredibly beautiful, highly sexual and totally in control, Eve. No snake nor apple in some tree - owns the snake and the apple. Brilliant. Anita On 13 Feb 2014, at 04:44, Shari Eaton wrote: > Just curious .. How do you interpret her saying 'I've got the apple of temptation and a diamond snake around my arm.' > > > - Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 04:37:52 -0500 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell 2nd Fret Sets On Feb 12, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Sarah May Atkinson wrote: > Hey there! > > I found this link while searching for a Joni Mitchell live recording on Google: > http://www.smoe.org/lists/onlyjoni/v2013.n364 > > And there is a link for a Hightail-download, but the link has expired. > Is there any chance that someone might put that up on the web again? > Actually, I'm just looking for one song from that concert (Oct. 12, 1967), > would it be too much of an inconvenience to put a link back on Hightail? > > I excuse any inconvenience - I understand if it's too much of a hazzle. > > Thanks in advance, > > Sarah Atkinson > - - - - - Sharon, No Inconvenience. The link you found refers to JMDL Digest, Vol. 2013 - #364 from last Sept. There were -2- messages with rare Unreleased Joni Mitchell music for JMDL members to DownLoad. I UpLoaded BOTH zip.files last night and will ReSend BOTH messages shortly. Enjoy! andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - simonM http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/ http://jonimitchell.com/music/InspiredByJoni_theAlbums.pdf ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:18:23 -0500 From: Sally Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question Hi all! I just can't resist a quick comment on the jewelry images that Dave shared...amazing and thanks for that, Dave. The second image showing the snake and the plane and the geography. Wow, I thought it interesting that you said that Max Bennett said that those were made to commemorate HOSL. I got an immediate feel of > On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Anita wrote: > > Wow, Robin got to wear it! Weren't you tempted to wear it yourself, Dave? The band were all men. > > Anita > >> On 13 Feb 2014, at 18:18, Dave Blackburn wrote: >> >> Yes, Joni designed it. >> >> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Anita wrote: >>> >>> I just love this list when you get something, like this jewellery, that is just so interesting. What a gift for your band. I wonder if other musicians give their bands something so unique. Like Sue, I wonder if it Joni's design. So glad you took some pictures,Dave. >>> >>> Glad it's "balmy" in Fullbrook. My Mum's old house and the council estate where I grew up was just on the national news. It's under water and the entire area, including my old school is submerged. The rain and winds just keep coming and coming. >>> Anita >>>> e.net; JMDL JMDL >>>> Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question >>>> >>>> And, in true Joni fashion Id be pretty sure that the apple and snake are literally a piece of jewelry that she designed and had made. Max Bennett showed us the medallion she designed and had fashioned, and gave as gifts to her L.A Express members. It was an elaborate two-sided design with iconography from the songs of The Hissing of Summer Lawns. Rather than describe it in detail, here are my close ups of it: >>>> >>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cw339ymjshlqqn4/YaWYkP4zlC >>>> >>>> barmy and balmy in Fallbrook, >>>> >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 5:21 AM, Bob Muller wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Well, it's definitely a reference to the biblical tale of Adam & Eve, >>>>> with the "apple of temptation" and the snake and all that. >>>>> >>>>> The verse starts with Joni >>>>> rattling off what Sharon has that Joni perhaps craved at one point, >>>>> but the devilish snake (the diamonds representing wealth possibly) and >>>>> the apple (fruit of knowledge) are too strong a draw for her to accept >>>>> the status quo for herself and doing what she's told, or what's expected of her by others. >>>>> Bob, snow-slammed in in SC but warm & safe >>>>> >>>>> NP: Dianne Reeves, "Waiting In >>>>> Vain" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ________________________________ >>>>> From: Shari Eaton >>>>> >>>>> To: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" >>>>> >>>>> Cc: joni >>>>> Sent: Thursday, February >>>>> 13, 2014 7:09 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To buy myself a >>>>> man(dolin) >>>>> >>>>> Well I do (accept the changes) >>>>> >>>>> Definitely agree it's about her >>>>> coming to terms with her inability to have a devoted love relationship >>>>> due to her career. >>>>> >>>>> The diamond snake image makes me think of For the Roses. She says her >>>>> career provides her with things she's not ready to give up, though she >>>>> feels she suffers from the consequences of it. The riches in the >>>>> diamonds and the clutching grasp of a snake on her arm like an ankle >>>>> monitor of an at home prisoner. >>>>> >>>>> The apple of temptation is fairly straightforward I suppose. >>>>> I always equate apple to knowledge and think of it positively but it's >>>>> likely related to desire to know men in a sexual way. >>>>> >>>>> - Shari >>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at >>>>>> 12:47 AM, "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" wrote: >>>>> All, >>>>>> >>>>>> I think that the protagonist(Joni)is saying that she has too many >>>>> romantic and sexual opportunities (apple of temptation)and I think >>>>>> that >>>>> the diamond snake is vanity (diamond -reference to diamond ring) >>>>>> and snake >>>>> is selfishness and unreliability. >>>>>> As the whole song is about >>>>> justification of her life choices /coming to terms with the >>>>> realisation >>>>> that she has lost the opportunity to have a life similar to Sharon,it >>>>>> is an >>>>> either or metaphor in a song stuffed with direct comparisons >>>>>> between their >>>>> lives. >>>>>> >>>>>> John >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> ----Original Message---- >>>>>>> From: >>>>> shari@sharieaton.com >>>>>>> Date: 13/02/2014 04:44 >>>>>>> To: "joni" >>>>>> >>>>>>> Subj: Song for Sharon question >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just curious .. How do you interpret >>>>>> her saying 'I've got the apple of temptation and a diamond snake >>>>>> around >>>>> my arm.' >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 16:13:46 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Song for Sharon question Was that based on her own artwork, Dave? Beautiful!! Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dave Blackburn Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 9:03 AM To: Bob Muller Cc: Shari Eaton; johnnybgoode@lineone.net; JMDL JMDL Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question And, in true Joni fashion Id be pretty sure that the apple and snake are literally a piece of jewelry that she designed and had made. Max Bennett showed us the medallion she designed and had fashioned, and gave as gifts to her L.A Express members. It was an elaborate two-sided design with iconography from the songs of The Hissing of Summer Lawns. Rather than describe it in detail, here are my close ups of it: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cw339ymjshlqqn4/YaWYkP4zlC barmy and balmy in Fallbrook, Dave On Feb 13, 2014, at 5:21 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > Well, it's definitely a reference to the biblical tale of Adam & Eve, > with the "apple of temptation" and the snake and all that. > > The verse starts with Joni > rattling off what Sharon has that Joni perhaps craved at one point, > but the devilish snake (the diamonds representing wealth possibly) and > the apple (fruit of knowledge) are too strong a draw for her to accept > the status quo for herself and doing what she's told, or what's expected of her by others. > Bob, snow-slammed in in SC but warm & safe > > NP: Dianne Reeves, "Waiting In > Vain" > > > ________________________________ > From: Shari Eaton > > To: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" > > Cc: joni > Sent: Thursday, February > 13, 2014 7:09 AM > Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question > > > To buy myself a > man(dolin) > > Well I do (accept the changes) > > Definitely agree it's about her > coming to terms with her inability to have a devoted love relationship > due to her career. > > The diamond snake image makes me think of For the Roses. She says her > career provides her with things she's not ready to give up, though she > feels she suffers from the consequences of it. The riches in the > diamonds and the clutching grasp of a snake on her arm like an ankle > monitor of an at home prisoner. > > The apple of temptation is fairly straightforward I suppose. > I always equate apple to knowledge and think of it positively but it's > likely related to desire to know men in a sexual way. > > - Shari > >> On Feb 13, 2014, at > 12:47 AM, "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" wrote: >> >> > All, >> >> I think that the protagonist(Joni)is saying that she has too many >> > romantic and sexual opportunities (apple of temptation)and I think >> that > the diamond snake is vanity (diamond -reference to diamond ring) >> and snake > is selfishness and unreliability. >> As the whole song is about >> > justification of her life choices /coming to terms with the > realisation >> > that she has lost the opportunity to have a life similar to Sharon,it >> is an > either or metaphor in a song stuffed with direct comparisons >> between their > lives. >> >> John >> >> >>> ----Original Message---- >>> From: >> > shari@sharieaton.com >>> Date: 13/02/2014 04:44 >>> To: "joni" >> >>> Subj: Song for Sharon question >>> >>> Just curious .. How do you interpret >> her saying 'I've got the apple of temptation and a diamond snake >> around >> > my arm.' >>> >>> >>> - Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 06:03:03 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question And, in true Joni fashion Id be pretty sure that the apple and snake are literally a piece of jewelry that she designed and had made. Max Bennett showed us the medallion she designed and had fashioned, and gave as gifts to her L.A Express members. It was an elaborate two-sided design with iconography from the songs of The Hissing of Summer Lawns. Rather than describe it in detail, here are my close ups of it: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cw339ymjshlqqn4/YaWYkP4zlC barmy and balmy in Fallbrook, Dave On Feb 13, 2014, at 5:21 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > Well, it's definitely a reference to the biblical tale of Adam & Eve, with the > "apple of temptation" and the snake and all that. > > The verse starts with Joni > rattling off what Sharon has that Joni perhaps craved at one point, but the > devilish snake (the diamonds representing wealth possibly) and the apple > (fruit of knowledge) are too strong a draw for her to accept the status quo > for herself and doing what she's told, or what's expected of her by others. > Bob, snow-slammed in in SC but warm & safe > > NP: Dianne Reeves, "Waiting In > Vain" > > > ________________________________ > From: Shari Eaton > > To: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" > > Cc: joni > Sent: Thursday, February > 13, 2014 7:09 AM > Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question > > > To buy myself a > man(dolin) > > Well I do (accept the changes) > > Definitely agree it's about her > coming to terms with her inability to have a devoted love relationship due to > her career. > > The diamond snake image makes me think of For the Roses. She > says her career provides her with things she's not ready to give up, though > she feels she suffers from the consequences of it. The riches in the diamonds > and the clutching grasp of a snake on her arm like an ankle monitor of an at > home prisoner. > > The apple of temptation is fairly straightforward I suppose. > I always equate apple to knowledge and think of it positively but it's likely > related to desire to know men in a sexual way. > > - Shari > >> On Feb 13, 2014, at > 12:47 AM, "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" wrote: >> >> > All, >> >> I think that the protagonist(Joni)is saying that she has too many >> > romantic and sexual opportunities (apple of temptation)and I think >> that > the diamond snake is vanity (diamond -reference to diamond ring) >> and snake > is selfishness and unreliability. >> As the whole song is about >> > justification of her life choices /coming to terms with the realisation >> > that she has lost the opportunity to have a life similar to Sharon,it >> is an > either or metaphor in a song stuffed with direct comparisons >> between their > lives. >> >> John >> >> >>> ----Original Message---- >>> From: >> > shari@sharieaton.com >>> Date: 13/02/2014 04:44 >>> To: "joni" >> >>> Subj: Song for Sharon question >>> >>> Just curious .. How do you interpret >> her saying 'I've got the apple of temptation and a diamond snake around >> > my arm.' >>> >>> >>> - Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:47:39 +0000 (GMT) From: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question All, I think that the protagonist(Joni)is saying that she has too many romantic and sexual opportunities (apple of temptation)and I think that the diamond snake is vanity (diamond -reference to diamond ring) and snake is selfishness and unreliability. As the whole song is about justification of her life choices /coming to terms with the realisation that she has lost the opportunity to have a life similar to Sharon,it is an either or metaphor in a song stuffed with direct comparisons between their lives. John >----Original Message---- >From: shari@sharieaton.com >Date: 13/02/2014 04:44 >To: "joni" >Subj: Song for Sharon question > >Just curious .. How do you interpret her saying 'I've got the apple of temptation and a diamond snake around my arm.' > > >- Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:03:19 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question Yes, Sue, Joni found a jewelry maker in L.A and designed the medallion using images from her lyrics : plane,snake, eagle, Western hemisphere, lion, mermaid, ruby She had them made in 1975 as a gift to her band members, and Max wife Teri let Robin wear it when we performed Blue and Court and Spark in 2011 as a talisman for the show. Thats why I think she had an arm bracelet made by the same craftswoman with the diamond snake and the apple a year later. On Feb 13, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > Was that based on her own artwork, Dave? Beautiful!! > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dave Blackburn > Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 9:03 AM > To: Bob Muller > Cc: Shari Eaton; johnnybgoode@lineone.net; JMDL JMDL > Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question > > And, in true Joni fashion Id be pretty sure that the apple and snake are literally a piece of jewelry that she designed and had made. Max Bennett showed us the medallion she designed and had fashioned, and gave as gifts to her L.A Express members. It was an elaborate two-sided design with iconography from the songs of The Hissing of Summer Lawns. Rather than describe it in detail, here are my close ups of it: > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cw339ymjshlqqn4/YaWYkP4zlC > > barmy and balmy in Fallbrook, > > Dave > > > > On Feb 13, 2014, at 5:21 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > >> Well, it's definitely a reference to the biblical tale of Adam & Eve, >> with the "apple of temptation" and the snake and all that. >> >> The verse starts with Joni >> rattling off what Sharon has that Joni perhaps craved at one point, >> but the devilish snake (the diamonds representing wealth possibly) and >> the apple (fruit of knowledge) are too strong a draw for her to accept >> the status quo for herself and doing what she's told, or what's expected of her by others. >> Bob, snow-slammed in in SC but warm & safe >> >> NP: Dianne Reeves, "Waiting In >> Vain" >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Shari Eaton >> >> To: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" >> >> Cc: joni >> Sent: Thursday, February >> 13, 2014 7:09 AM >> Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question >> >> >> To buy myself a >> man(dolin) >> >> Well I do (accept the changes) >> >> Definitely agree it's about her >> coming to terms with her inability to have a devoted love relationship >> due to her career. >> >> The diamond snake image makes me think of For the Roses. She says her >> career provides her with things she's not ready to give up, though she >> feels she suffers from the consequences of it. The riches in the >> diamonds and the clutching grasp of a snake on her arm like an ankle >> monitor of an at home prisoner. >> >> The apple of temptation is fairly straightforward I suppose. >> I always equate apple to knowledge and think of it positively but it's >> likely related to desire to know men in a sexual way. >> >> - Shari >> >>> On Feb 13, 2014, at >> 12:47 AM, "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" wrote: >>> >>> >> All, >>> >>> I think that the protagonist(Joni)is saying that she has too many >>> >> romantic and sexual opportunities (apple of temptation)and I think >>> that >> the diamond snake is vanity (diamond -reference to diamond ring) >>> and snake >> is selfishness and unreliability. >>> As the whole song is about >>> >> justification of her life choices /coming to terms with the >> realisation >>> >> that she has lost the opportunity to have a life similar to Sharon,it >>> is an >> either or metaphor in a song stuffed with direct comparisons >>> between their >> lives. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>>> ----Original Message---- >>>> From: >>> >> shari@sharieaton.com >>>> Date: 13/02/2014 04:44 >>>> To: "joni" >>> >>>> Subj: Song for Sharon question >>>> >>>> Just curious .. How do you interpret >>> her saying 'I've got the apple of temptation and a diamond snake >>> around >>> >> my arm.' >>>> >>>> >>>> - Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 10:18:21 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question Yes, Joni designed it. On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Anita wrote: > I just love this list when you get something, like this jewellery, that is just so interesting. What a gift for your band. I wonder if other musicians give their bands something so unique. Like Sue, I wonder if it Joni's design. So glad you took some pictures,Dave. > > Glad it's "balmy" in Fullbrook. My Mum's old house and the council estate where I grew up was just on the national news. It's under water and the entire area, including my old school is submerged. The rain and winds just keep coming and coming. > Anita >> e.net; JMDL JMDL >> Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question >> >> And, in true Joni fashion Id be pretty sure that the apple and snake are literally a piece of jewelry that she designed and had made. Max Bennett showed us the medallion she designed and had fashioned, and gave as gifts to her L.A Express members. It was an elaborate two-sided design with iconography from the songs of The Hissing of Summer Lawns. Rather than describe it in detail, here are my close ups of it: >> >> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cw339ymjshlqqn4/YaWYkP4zlC >> >> barmy and balmy in Fallbrook, >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 5:21 AM, Bob Muller wrote: >> >>> Well, it's definitely a reference to the biblical tale of Adam & Eve, >>> with the "apple of temptation" and the snake and all that. >>> >>> The verse starts with Joni >>> rattling off what Sharon has that Joni perhaps craved at one point, >>> but the devilish snake (the diamonds representing wealth possibly) and >>> the apple (fruit of knowledge) are too strong a draw for her to accept >>> the status quo for herself and doing what she's told, or what's expected of her by others. >>> Bob, snow-slammed in in SC but warm & safe >>> >>> NP: Dianne Reeves, "Waiting In >>> Vain" >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Shari Eaton >>> >>> To: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" >>> >>> Cc: joni >>> Sent: Thursday, February >>> 13, 2014 7:09 AM >>> Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question >>> >>> >>> To buy myself a >>> man(dolin) >>> >>> Well I do (accept the changes) >>> >>> Definitely agree it's about her >>> coming to terms with her inability to have a devoted love relationship >>> due to her career. >>> >>> The diamond snake image makes me think of For the Roses. She says her >>> career provides her with things she's not ready to give up, though she >>> feels she suffers from the consequences of it. The riches in the >>> diamonds and the clutching grasp of a snake on her arm like an ankle >>> monitor of an at home prisoner. >>> >>> The apple of temptation is fairly straightforward I suppose. >>> I always equate apple to knowledge and think of it positively but it's >>> likely related to desire to know men in a sexual way. >>> >>> - Shari >>> >>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at >>> 12:47 AM, "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" wrote: >>>> >>>> >>> All, >>>> >>>> I think that the protagonist(Joni)is saying that she has too many >>>> >>> romantic and sexual opportunities (apple of temptation)and I think >>>> that >>> the diamond snake is vanity (diamond -reference to diamond ring) >>>> and snake >>> is selfishness and unreliability. >>>> As the whole song is about >>>> >>> justification of her life choices /coming to terms with the >>> realisation >>>> >>> that she has lost the opportunity to have a life similar to Sharon,it >>>> is an >>> either or metaphor in a song stuffed with direct comparisons >>>> between their >>> lives. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>>> ----Original Message---- >>>>> From: >>>> >>> shari@sharieaton.com >>>>> Date: 13/02/2014 04:44 >>>>> To: "joni" >>>> >>>>> Subj: Song for Sharon question >>>>> >>>>> Just curious .. How do you interpret >>>> her saying 'I've got the apple of temptation and a diamond snake >>>> around >>>> >>> my arm.' >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> - Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 05:21:07 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question Well, it's definitely a reference to the biblical tale of Adam & Eve, with the "apple of temptation" and the snake and all that. The verse starts with Joni rattling off what Sharon has that Joni perhaps craved at one point, but the devilish snake (the diamonds representing wealth possibly) and the apple (fruit of knowledge) are too strong a draw for her to accept the status quo for herself and doing what she's told, or what's expected of her by others. Bob, snow-slammed in in SC but warm & safe NP: Dianne Reeves, "Waiting In Vain" ________________________________ From: Shari Eaton To: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" Cc: joni Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 7:09 AM Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question To buy myself a man(dolin) Well I do (accept the changes) Definitely agree it's about her coming to terms with her inability to have a devoted love relationship due to her career. The diamond snake image makes me think of For the Roses. She says her career provides her with things she's not ready to give up, though she feels she suffers from the consequences of it. The riches in the diamonds and the clutching grasp of a snake on her arm like an ankle monitor of an at home prisoner. The apple of temptation is fairly straightforward I suppose. I always equate apple to knowledge and think of it positively but it's likely related to desire to know men in a sexual way. - - Shari > On Feb 13, 2014, at 12:47 AM, "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" wrote: > > All, > > I think that the protagonist(Joni)is saying that she has too many > romantic and sexual opportunities (apple of temptation)and I think > that the diamond snake is vanity (diamond -reference to diamond ring) > and snake is selfishness and unreliability. > As the whole song is about > justification of her life choices /coming to terms with the realisation > that she has lost the opportunity to have a life similar to Sharon,it > is an either or metaphor in a song stuffed with direct comparisons > between their lives. > > John > > >> ----Original Message---- >> From: > shari@sharieaton.com >> Date: 13/02/2014 04:44 >> To: "joni" > >> Subj: Song for Sharon question >> >> Just curious .. How do you interpret > her saying 'I've got the apple of temptation and a diamond snake around > my arm.' >> >> >> - Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 04:38:31 -0500 From: simon@icu.com Subject: WMMR-fm Radio Retrospective - Music for DownLoading Jonathan Edward Lowe inquired ... > Subject: Second Fret Sets > > Re. this discussion about rare tracks, I (like most I imagine) have the tracks > from the first CD of this collection, but not those from the second CD- does > anyone have that? > > Thanks, Jonathan Donald R. Barthel writes ... > Subject: Second Fret Sets > > I haven't the first. Is there a way to still get it? Thanks! I'll send a link for DownLoading the 2-Disc Set "2nd Fret Sets" later today, or tomorrow. However, before I do, there is a radio program that will provide some background and perspective. It's the logical place to begin. Between 1966 and 1968 Joni made several trips to Philadelphia. There were appearances at the 2nd Fret, the Main Point as well as Gene Shay's "Folklore" radio program. Ed Sciaky recorded several of Joni's club appearances and also interviewed her backstage at The Fret. Joni's several appearances on "Folklore" were also recorded. Some of these recordings are included on the 2-Disc Set "2nd Fret Sets" - - - - - - At various times Ed or Gene would revisit Joni's Philadelphia appearances and play selections from their recordings. However, to the best of my knowledge, there was only one occasion when both Ed and Gene were together in the studio (WMMR-fm) with a careful, planned presentation. THAT's the recording I recently UpLoaded via Hightail. You can DownLoad your copy at the following URL: WMMR Radio Retrospective.zip It's a zip.archive that contains -2- pdf.files with complete information and -2- folders containing the Radio Program. THIS program includes several Interview segments, song introductions and other comments that are Not included on the 2-Disc Set "2nd Fret Sets". It's a large file, so be patient. It Will take a little while to DownLoad. A content list is included (below) with this message. However a pdf.copy is included with the zip.archive. - - - - - - This broadcast was recorded by a good friend in 1974. His copy is an open-reel tape recorded at 3 3/4 ips. The cassette copy I rec'd was recorded on a C-120 Maxell LN cassette w/o Dolby Noise Reduction. So, there IS a certain amount of Tape Hiss. However, this shouldn't detract from your enjoyment of the program. ENJOY! andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - simonM http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/ Joni Mitchell WMMR Radio Retrospective WMMR-FM Philadelphia, PA. Jan. 29, 1974 Part 1 43 min. 01. Intro & Comments by Ed Sciaky & Gene Shay 2nd Fret  Phila., Pa.  Nov. 17, 1966 02. Interview, Chuck & Joni Mitchell Folklore Program  w/Gene Shay  Nov. 19, 1966 03. The Circle Game w/Chuck Mitchell Folklore Program  w/Gene Shay  May 28, 1967 04. Sugar Mountain 2nd Fret  Phila., Pa.  March 17, 1967 05. Interview, Joni Folklore Program  w/Gene Shay  March 12, 1967 06. Talk- (About Both Sides, Now) 07. Both Sides, Now 08. Interview, Joni 2nd Fret  Phila., Pa.  March 17, 1967 09. Talk- (About Whats The Story Mr. Blue) 10. Whats The Story Mr. Blue 11. Talk- (About Carnival In Kenora) 12. Carnival In Kenora __________________ Part 2 1 hr. 10 min. 1. -Talk- Gene Shay Folklore Program  w/Gene Shay  March 19, 1967 02. Just Like Me 03. -Talk- 04. Eastern Rain 05. -Talk- 06. Blue On Blue 07. -Talk- 2nd Fret  Phila., Pa.  March 17, 1967 08. Born To Take The Highway 09. Winter Lady 2nd Fret  Phila., Pa.  Oct. 12, 1967 10. London Bridge Song 11. -Talk- (The Posall & The Mosalm) Folklore Program  w/Gene Shay  Nov. 3, 1968 12. Sisotowbell Lane 13. -Talk- (Old Songs) 14. The Gallery 2nd Fret  Phila., Pa.  Oct. 12, 1967 15. Go Tell The Drummer Man 16. Conversation (w/ 3 verses, released version has 2) ___________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 07:23:12 -0800 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question So cool of you to share! Makes me glad I asked this rather obvious question :) - - Shari > On Feb 13, 2014, at 6:03 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > And, in true Joni fashion Id be pretty sure that the apple and snake are literally a piece of jewelry that she designed and had made. Max Bennett showed us the medallion she designed and had fashioned, and gave as gifts to her L.A Express members. It was an elaborate two-sided design with iconography from the songs of The Hissing of Summer Lawns. Rather than describe it in detail, here are my close ups of it: > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cw339ymjshlqqn4/YaWYkP4zlC > > barmy and balmy in Fallbrook, > > Dave > > > >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 5:21 AM, Bob Muller wrote: >> >> Well, it's definitely a reference to the biblical tale of Adam & Eve, with the >> "apple of temptation" and the snake and all that. >> >> The verse starts with Joni >> rattling off what Sharon has that Joni perhaps craved at one point, but the >> devilish snake (the diamonds representing wealth possibly) and the apple >> (fruit of knowledge) are too strong a draw for her to accept the status quo >> for herself and doing what she's told, or what's expected of her by others. >> Bob, snow-slammed in in SC but warm & safe >> >> NP: Dianne Reeves, "Waiting In >> Vain" >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Shari Eaton >> >> To: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" >> >> Cc: joni >> Sent: Thursday, February >> 13, 2014 7:09 AM >> Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question >> >> >> To buy myself a >> man(dolin) >> >> Well I do (accept the changes) >> >> Definitely agree it's about her >> coming to terms with her inability to have a devoted love relationship due to >> her career. >> >> The diamond snake image makes me think of For the Roses. She >> says her career provides her with things she's not ready to give up, though >> she feels she suffers from the consequences of it. The riches in the diamonds >> and the clutching grasp of a snake on her arm like an ankle monitor of an at >> home prisoner. >> >> The apple of temptation is fairly straightforward I suppose. >> I always equate apple to knowledge and think of it positively but it's likely >> related to desire to know men in a sexual way. >> >> - Shari >> >>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at >>> 12:47 AM, "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" wrote: >> All, >>> >>> I think that the protagonist(Joni)is saying that she has too many >> romantic and sexual opportunities (apple of temptation)and I think >>> that >> the diamond snake is vanity (diamond -reference to diamond ring) >>> and snake >> is selfishness and unreliability. >>> As the whole song is about >> justification of her life choices /coming to terms with the realisation >> that she has lost the opportunity to have a life similar to Sharon,it >>> is an >> either or metaphor in a song stuffed with direct comparisons >>> between their >> lives. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>>> ----Original Message---- >>>> From: >> shari@sharieaton.com >>>> Date: 13/02/2014 04:44 >>>> To: "joni" >>> >>>> Subj: Song for Sharon question >>>> >>>> Just curious .. How do you interpret >>> her saying 'I've got the apple of temptation and a diamond snake around >> my arm.' >>>> >>>> >>>> - Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 08:15:14 -0800 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question Get a load of the beak on that plane, and the snake train! Was this around the time of Don Juan's Reckless Daughter recording? - - Shari > On Feb 13, 2014, at 6:03 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > > And, in true Joni fashion Id be pretty sure that the apple and snake are literally a piece of jewelry that she designed and had made. Max Bennett showed us the medallion she designed and had fashioned, and gave as gifts to her L.A Express members. It was an elaborate two-sided design with iconography from the songs of The Hissing of Summer Lawns. Rather than describe it in detail, here are my close ups of it: > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cw339ymjshlqqn4/YaWYkP4zlC > > barmy and balmy in Fallbrook, > > Dave > > > >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 5:21 AM, Bob Muller wrote: >> >> Well, it's definitely a reference to the biblical tale of Adam & Eve, with the >> "apple of temptation" and the snake and all that. >> >> The verse starts with Joni >> rattling off what Sharon has that Joni perhaps craved at one point, but the >> devilish snake (the diamonds representing wealth possibly) and the apple >> (fruit of knowledge) are too strong a draw for her to accept the status quo >> for herself and doing what she's told, or what's expected of her by others. >> Bob, snow-slammed in in SC but warm & safe >> >> NP: Dianne Reeves, "Waiting In >> Vain" >> >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Shari Eaton >> >> To: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" >> >> Cc: joni >> Sent: Thursday, February >> 13, 2014 7:09 AM >> Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question >> >> >> To buy myself a >> man(dolin) >> >> Well I do (accept the changes) >> >> Definitely agree it's about her >> coming to terms with her inability to have a devoted love relationship due to >> her career. >> >> The diamond snake image makes me think of For the Roses. She >> says her career provides her with things she's not ready to give up, though >> she feels she suffers from the consequences of it. The riches in the diamonds >> and the clutching grasp of a snake on her arm like an ankle monitor of an at >> home prisoner. >> >> The apple of temptation is fairly straightforward I suppose. >> I always equate apple to knowledge and think of it positively but it's likely >> related to desire to know men in a sexual way. >> >> - Shari >> >>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at >>> 12:47 AM, "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" wrote: >> All, >>> >>> I think that the protagonist(Joni)is saying that she has too many >> romantic and sexual opportunities (apple of temptation)and I think >>> that >> the diamond snake is vanity (diamond -reference to diamond ring) >>> and snake >> is selfishness and unreliability. >>> As the whole song is about >> justification of her life choices /coming to terms with the realisation >> that she has lost the opportunity to have a life similar to Sharon,it >>> is an >> either or metaphor in a song stuffed with direct comparisons >>> between their >> lives. >>> >>> John >>> >>> >>>> ----Original Message---- >>>> From: >> shari@sharieaton.com >>>> Date: 13/02/2014 04:44 >>>> To: "joni" >>> >>>> Subj: Song for Sharon question >>>> >>>> Just curious .. How do you interpret >>> her saying 'I've got the apple of temptation and a diamond snake around >> my arm.' >>>> >>>> >>>> - Shari ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 14:26:18 -0500 From: Sally Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question Oops my phone glitched out...sorry. I was trying to send this: Hi all! I just can't resist a quick comment on the jewelry images that Dave shared...amazing and thanks for that, Dave. The second image showing the snake and the plane and the geography. Wow, I thought it interesting that you said that Max Bennett said that those were made to commemorate HOSL. I got an immediate feel of the lyrics for DJRD. gravel under the belly plates He says wind in the wings Big bird dragging it's tail in the dust Snake kite flying on a string Fascinating jewelry and again thanks for sharing that, Dave! > On Feb 13, 2014, at 2:18 PM, Sally wrote: > > Hi all! > > I just can't resist a quick comment on the jewelry images that Dave shared...amazing and thanks for that, Dave. > The second image showing the snake and the plane and the geography. Wow, I thought it interesting that you said that Max Bennett said that those were made to commemorate HOSL. I got an immediate feel of > >> On Feb 13, 2014, at 1:42 PM, Anita wrote: >> >> Wow, Robin got to wear it! Weren't you tempted to wear it yourself, Dave? The band were all men. >> >> Anita >> >>> On 13 Feb 2014, at 18:18, Dave Blackburn wrote: >>> >>> Yes, Joni designed it. >>> >>> >>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Anita wrote: >>>> >>>> I just love this list when you get something, like this jewellery, that is just so interesting. What a gift for your band. I wonder if other musicians give their bands something so unique. Like Sue, I wonder if it Joni's design. So glad you took some pictures,Dave. >>>> >>>> Glad it's "balmy" in Fullbrook. My Mum's old house and the council estate where I grew up was just on the national news. It's under water and the entire area, including my old school is submerged. The rain and winds just keep coming and coming. >>>> Anita >>>>> e.net; JMDL JMDL >>>>> Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question >>>>> >>>>> And, in true Joni fashion Id be pretty sure that the apple and snake are literally a piece of jewelry that she designed and had made. Max Bennett showed us the medallion she designed and had fashioned, and gave as gifts to her L.A Express members. It was an elaborate two-sided design with iconography from the songs of The Hissing of Summer Lawns. Rather than describe it in detail, here are my close ups of it: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/cw339ymjshlqqn4/YaWYkP4zlC >>>>> >>>>> barmy and balmy in Fallbrook, >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 5:21 AM, Bob Muller wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, it's definitely a reference to the biblical tale of Adam & Eve, >>>>>> with the "apple of temptation" and the snake and all that. >>>>>> >>>>>> The verse starts with Joni >>>>>> rattling off what Sharon has that Joni perhaps craved at one point, >>>>>> but the devilish snake (the diamonds representing wealth possibly) and >>>>>> the apple (fruit of knowledge) are too strong a draw for her to accept >>>>>> the status quo for herself and doing what she's told, or what's expected of her by others. >>>>>> Bob, snow-slammed in in SC but warm & safe >>>>>> >>>>>> NP: Dianne Reeves, "Waiting In >>>>>> Vain" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>> From: Shari Eaton >>>>>> >>>>>> To: "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" >>>>>> >>>>>> Cc: joni >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, February >>>>>> 13, 2014 7:09 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Song for Sharon question >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To buy myself a >>>>>> man(dolin) >>>>>> >>>>>> Well I do (accept the changes) >>>>>> >>>>>> Definitely agree it's about her >>>>>> coming to terms with her inability to have a devoted love relationship >>>>>> due to her career. >>>>>> >>>>>> The diamond snake image makes me think of For the Roses. She says her >>>>>> career provides her with things she's not ready to give up, though she >>>>>> feels she suffers from the consequences of it. The riches in the >>>>>> diamonds and the clutching grasp of a snake on her arm like an ankle >>>>>> monitor of an at home prisoner. >>>>>> >>>>>> The apple of temptation is fairly straightforward I suppose. >>>>>> I always equate apple to knowledge and think of it positively but it's >>>>>> likely related to desire to know men in a sexual way. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Shari >>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at >>>>>>> 12:47 AM, "johnnybgoode@lineone.net" wrote: >>>>>> All, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think that the protagonist(Joni)is saying that she has too many >>>>>> romantic and sexual opportunities (apple of temptation)and I think >>>>>>> that >>>>>> the diamond snake is vanity (diamond -reference to diamond ring) >>>>>>> and snake >>>>>> is selfishness and unreliability. >>>>>>> As the whole song is about >>>>>> justification of her life choices /coming to terms with the >>>>>> realisation >>>>>> that she has lost the opportunity to have a life similar to Sharon,it >>>>>>> is an >>>>>> either or metaphor in a song stuffed with direct comparisons >>>>>>> between their >>>>>> lives. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> John >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----Original Message---- >>>>>>>> From: >>>>>> shari@sharieaton.com >>>>>>>> Date: 13/02/2014 04:44 >>>>>>>> To: "joni" >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Subj: Song for Sharon question >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just curious .. How do you interpret >>>>>>> her saying 'I've got the apple of temptation and a diamond snake >>>>>>> around >>>>>> my arm.' >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Shari ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #48 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe