From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #30 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, January 30 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 030 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- New Library item: Joni Mitchell, Elliott Smith, and The City of Light [Th] Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell ["Mark" ] Complete songbook 2014 [Vincenzo Mancini ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 22:05:47 -0700 (MST) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Joni Mitchell, Elliott Smith, and The City of Light Title: Joni Mitchell, Elliott Smith, and The City of Light Publication: ConsequenceOfSound.net Date: 2014.1.28 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2739 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 21:52:38 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell The piece is more of a mish-mash trying to give a sense of a larger presentation as Richard pointed out. Whoever wrote it was picking out the bits that would draw the most attention, I think. I don't think it was successful in encapsulating the whole. As far as Joni being distant, I can't honestly say since I have never met her. One thing that has occurred to me is how unfair it must be to a celebrity when total strangers are able to recognize you. My most recent fantasies about meeting Joni Mitchell have me thinking that I should first introduce myself and tell her that I realize she doesn't know me from Adam. Then tell her she cannot possibly know how much she and her work have meant to me and enriched my life over the years. Then thank her and hope, but not automatically assume, that there will be a response. After all, I have already received the gift of her music. She certainly doesn't owe me anything. I also think Joni has finally emerged from a long period of illness which made many people think she had become some kind of eccentric recluse who did nothing but rant and make outrageous remarks in the rare moments when she did step into the public spotlight. But as Anita and so many others have already said, Joni is warm and receptive and responsive to people who show a genuine appreciation of her music. She knows that she has touched the lives of you lucky people who have met her. I think after Luminato she may finally be beginning to realize the impact she has made on the people who really 'get' her and that she does have a legacy that is ongoing. It seems to me that Joni is at her best in an interview situation with an interviewer that really knows her work and has the intelligence to ask good, pertinent questions. Jian Ghomeshi got a fabulous interview out of her and I learned some things from it that I hadn't known before. Sure, some of it was stories that she had told many times before. But I felt a genuine joy just to see her and hear her talking with all that energy and spark. And I was riveted by her description of how 'Paprika Plains' came together. At least I think that was the Ghomeshi interview. Now I'm showing my age. Senior moment! As far as Kilauren is concerned, I don't know if she is 'a blonde f**k-up'. We don't hear much about her these days. I do remember that Sheila Weller said in 'Girls Like Us' that Kilauren was a misfit in her adopted family. From what I can recall, Weller said the parents are introverts and that Kilauren's personality is almost a polar opposite of the personalities of the family she was raised in. So is he asking if the surrogate mother deserves more of the credit for how Kilauren turned out, ie a blonde f**k-up? Whether that is what he meant or not, it's still a nasty remark to make. The more I see in the media about famous people and the crap that many of them undeservingly have to put up with, the more I am glad that I am not famous. When I was very young it seemed like a very desirable thing to be. Not anymore. You can have fame. I will remain the obscure enigma that I am, thank you very much. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Anita Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 9:04 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell 'But, Yaffe admitted that Joni often "repeats herself, cannibalizes herself" by repeating verbatim "over and over and over again." "The first time she said it was better" and her repetitiveness could be "because she's more and more distant" as time moves on.' Does anyone feel clear if this is what Yaffe or Joni is saying about Joni/ herself? My understanding is that Yaffe is saying Joni is more and more distant. She may not be writing new albums, but my feeling is that Joni is more and more close. I know many of us who have been fans for a long time have shared the sense of isolation we felt years ago. It was hard to find other Joni fans. With the wonders of the Internet, It is much easier to find others who love the music. Looking at the wonderful material Catherine and others shared from the Luminato tribute last year, I thought Joni seemed closer than ever and certainly in my own writing about meeting Joni at Ruby Lake I described Joni as "presence." I wondered what other JMDLers feel about Joni's "distance." Does she feel near or far to you? Anita On 29 Jan 2014, at 15:43, TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com wrote: > Title: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell > Publication: Accuracy in Academia > Date: 2014.1.27 > > http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2738 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2014 08:57:39 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Syracuse Am 29.01.2014 20:53, Wie Richard Flynn so vortrefflich formulierte: > I would not trust this to be an accurate summary of his talk. I am > looking forward to Yaffe's book on Joni. I totally agree! BTW, Yaffe wrote a nice article in 2007 on Joni in the NYT: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/04/arts/dance/04yaff.html?pagewanted=all I am really interested in his book. I wonder whether it has been re-scheduled already, as there is a listing on Amazon Canada that is from 2010: http://www.amazon.ca/dp/1554681030/ which has HarperCollins Canada as the publisher but this page http://as-cascade.syr.edu/profiles/pages/yaffe-david.html mentions Farrar, Straus and Giroux as the publisher. moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:30:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Vincenzo Mancini Subject: Complete songbook 2014 A pdf showing some pages can be seen at: http://www.alfred.com/samplepages/00-40964.pdf And apparently the songbook is now available: http://www.alfred.com/Products/Joni-Mitchell-Complete-So-Far--00-40964.aspx http://www.sheetmusicplus.com/cart;jsessionid=01D64B4BD9A614ABEEA52F4D0B3A376 E.atg02?_requestid=570929 Vincenzo ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #30 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe