From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #29 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, January 29 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 029 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #117 [joe farrell ] Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell [Michael P] Re: Syracuse [Catherine McKay ] Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell [Anita ] RE: Syracuse Professor studies Joni Mitchell ["Susan E. McNamara" ] RE: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell ["Susan E.] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #111 [Jack Jaynes ] RE: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell ["Susan E.] Syracuse [Michael Paz ] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #116 [Jack Jaynes ] Re: Syracuse [Anita ] Re: Pete Seeger [Victor ] Re: Pete Seeger [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell [Bob.Mulle] Re: Syracuse [Richard Flynn ] Re: Clive Davis Grammy Party [Moni Kellermann ] Pete Seeger and Joni -Video Audio 1970 [Laura O ] Re: Pete Seeger and Joni -Video Audio 1970 [Laura O ] Syraccuse [Laura Stanley ] RE: Pete Seeger ["Rob Argento" ] Pete Seeger has died - Joni & Pete - Music for DownLoading [simon@icu.com] Clive Davis Grammy Party [Betsy Blue ] Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell [Michael P] RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #101 [Mary ] Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell [Anita ] Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell [Les Irvin] Pete Seeger [Marianne Rizzo ] Re: Syracuse [Catherine McKay ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 20:28:27 +0000 From: joe farrell Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #117 I had not heard this for a while. It is magnificent and in the present circumstances very moving. Thank you for posting it Laura. Joe. On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:47 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 28 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 117 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Pete Seeger and Joni -Video Audio 1970 [Laura O < > aptakisic101@gmail.com>] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 17:46:51 -0600 > From: Laura O > Subject: Pete Seeger and Joni -Video Audio 1970 > > Both Sides Now > http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=356&from=search > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #117 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:44:47 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell Ouch! This is perfect example of why journalists and people who write biographies about people like Joni piss me off so much. This is another book I will not buy or read. On Jan 29, 2014, at 9:43 AM, TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com wrote: Title: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell Publication: Accuracy in Academia Date: 2014.1.27 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2738 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:35:52 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Syracuse I felt both fascinated and repelled by it. On the one hand, this guy says Steven Pinker is "a douchebag" because he "'put[s] on two hats, the scholar hat and the public hat' in analyzing issues and events." But, on the other hand, with his use of expressions like "douchebag" and "fuck-up," he speaks more like someone interested in appealing to the public than to the scholar. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but it is if you're accusing someone else of doing it. I always cringe when I read people bad-mouthing others but, like a moth to the flame, I'm sucked in anyway. (Jeez, don'tcha hate that!) I agree that Joni does repeat herself a lot but I also fear it might be a product of getting older. For all the braincells we supposedly have, we seem to restrict ourselves to a limited number and tell the same stories over and over. But then, it also depends on who you're talking to, and maybe this is Joni's public persona. So, although she may appear to be intimate with people at first meeting, she sticks to the same topics for interviews. >________________________________ > From: Michael Paz >To: "joni@smoe.org JMDL" >Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:47:00 AM >Subject: Syracuse > > >Ouch! >This is perfect example of why journalists and people who write biographies about people like Joni piss me off so much. This is another book I will not buy or read. > > > > > > > >On Jan 29, 2014, at 9:43 AM, TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com wrote: > >Title: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell >Publication: Accuracy in Academia >Date: 2014.1.27 > >http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2738 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 16:50:53 +0000 From: Anita Subject: Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell Anita On 29 Jan 2014, at 15:43, TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com wrote: > Title: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell > Publication: Accuracy in Academia > Date: 2014.1.27 > > http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2738 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 08:57:09 -0800 From: Jack Jaynes Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #121 Yeah I have done a few things on my music Youtube page... ;) Yep looks like I'm the youngest one here!Nice to meet you all! Jack > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 00:29:55 -0500 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #121 > > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, January 29 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 121 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #97 [Gerald Kent ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 00:29:01 -0500 > From: Gerald Kent > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #97 > > Welcome Jack, always good to see someone appreciate Joni regardless of age. Gerry > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Jan 28, 2014, at 2:47 PM, carmel rotem wrote: > > > > Welcome Jack! > > > > I think (might be wrong though) I was the youngest here until > > you joined in (I'm 29). > > glad to not be anymore :-) > > > > Carmel from Israel. > > > > > > > > > > On > > Tuesday, January 28, 2014 6:27 AM, JMDL Digest > > wrote: > > > > > > JMDL Digest Monday, January 27 2014 Volume 2014 : > > Number 097 > > > > > > > > ========== > > > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > > -------- > > Re: > > JMDL Digest V2014 #93 [kenevans kenevans ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: > > Mon, 27 Jan 2014 23:25:26 -0500 > > From: kenevans kenevans > > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #93 > > > > Jack Jaynes Music from YouTube ? > > Good to > > see young people into Joni, though I always wonder "wow how > > did that happen?" > >>> > >>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Jack Jaynes wrote: > >>> > >>> Hello fellow > > Jimdles! I just wanted to introduce myself to you all, my name > >>> is > >>> Jack > > and I am 18 years old. I've been listening to Joni for quite some time > >>> now > > and with every new song I discover I find myself connecting to her as a > >>> > > musician and just.. as a human being! > >>> Well that's all I got, I'm not very > > good at intros and hellos but I am > >>> looking > >>> forward to chatting with you > > all! > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #97 > > **************************** > > > > ------- > > To post messages to the > > list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > > ------- > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #121 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 16:48:17 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Syracuse Professor studies Joni Mitchell Professor Yaffe also has an article in the JM.com library (orig. from the NY Times) on an interview he did with Joni about the ballet in 2007 - http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1547&from=search I missed this article when it came out and it has an interesting quote from Joni about how her grandson Marlon gave her the idea for four songs on Shine by saying one day "Bad dreams are good in the great plan" - after a family fight. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 17:04:52 +0000 From: Anita Subject: Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell 'But, Yaffe admitted that Joni often "repeats herself, cannibalizes herself" by repeating verbatim "over and over and over again." "The first time she said it was better" and her repetitiveness could be "because she's more and more distant" as time moves on.' Does anyone feel clear if this is what Yaffe or Joni is saying about Joni/ herself? My understanding is that Yaffe is saying Joni is more and more distant. She may not be writing new albums, but my feeling is that Joni is more and more close. I know many of us who have been fans for a long time have shared the sense of isolation we felt years ago. It was hard to find other Joni fans. With the wonders of the Internet, It is much easier to find others who love the music. Looking at the wonderful material Catherine and others shared from the Luminato tribute last year, I thought Joni seemed closer than ever and certainly in my own writing about meeting Joni at Ruby Lake I described Joni as "presence." I wondered what other JMDLers feel about Joni's "distance." Does she feel near or far to you? Anita On 29 Jan 2014, at 15:43, TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com wrote: > Title: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell > Publication: Accuracy in Academia > Date: 2014.1.27 > > http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2738 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 08:43:53 -0700 (MST) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell Title: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell Publication: Accuracy in Academia Date: 2014.1.27 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2738 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 14:11:18 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Syracuse Thanks I will keep an open mind and see what others say when it comes out and maybe take him for a spin. On Jan 29, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Richard Flynn wrote: I think I might have just replied to Paz, but I wanted to point out on the list that this is an account of Yaffe's MLA talk by a group that styles itself as a right-wing watchdog over academia. Because of a conflict, I was unable to attend the talk when I was at MLA, but I would not trust this to be an accurate summary of his talk. I am looking forward to Yaffe's book on Joni. I met him only once, but I think he'll write an interesting book. I wouldn't dismiss it on the basis of this piece. Richard Flynn Professor of Literature Georgia Southern University https://sites.google.com/a/georgiasouthern.edu/rflynn http://georgiasouthern.academia.edu/RichardFlynn > On Jan 29, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > > I felt both fascinated and repelled by it. On the one hand, this guy says Steven Pinker is "a douchebag" because he "'put[s] on two > hats, the scholar hat and the public hat' in analyzing issues and > events." But, on the other hand, with his use of expressions like "douchebag" and "fuck-up," he speaks more like someone interested in appealing to the public than to the scholar. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but it is if you're accusing someone else of doing it. I always cringe when I read people bad-mouthing others but, like a moth to the flame, I'm sucked in anyway. (Jeez, don'tcha hate that!) I agree that Joni does repeat herself a lot but I also fear it might be a product of getting older. For all the braincells we supposedly have, we seem to restrict ourselves to a limited number and tell the same stories over and over. But then, it also depends on who you're talking to, and maybe this is Joni's public persona. So, although she may appear to be intimate with people at first meeting, she sticks to the same topics for interviews. > > > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: Michael Paz >> To: "joni@smoe.org JMDL" >> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:47:00 AM >> Subject: Syracuse >> >> >> Ouch! >> This is perfect example of why journalists and people who write biographies about people like Joni piss me off so much. This is another book I will not buy or read. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 29, 2014, at 9:43 AM, TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com wrote: >> >> Title: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell >> Publication: Accuracy in Academia >> Date: 2014.1.27 >> >> http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2738 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 16:31:37 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell Interesting!! That comment about Kilauren is pretty rough. Wow. He is also writing a book. Here is his blurb at the Syracuse University website: David Yaffe Assistant Professor of English David Yaffe was born in Dallas, TX and received his B.A. from Sarah Lawrence College and his Ph.D. in English from the CUNY Graduate Center. He is the author of Fascinating Rhythm: Reading Jazz in American Writing (Princeton, 2006) and Bob Dylan: Like a Complete Unknown (Yale, 2011). He is currently at work on Reckless Daughter: A Portrait of Joni Mitchell (Farrar, Straus and Giroux, forthcoming). He teaches undergraduate and graduate courses on 20th and 21st Century American fiction, poetry, music, and creative nonfiction. He is a music critic for The Nation and has also written for Harper's, Slate, The New York Times, New York, The Village Voice, The New Republic, Bookforum, The Chronicle of Higher Education Review, and other publications. Click here to visit David's website. Research and Teaching Interests 20th and 21st century American fiction and poetry; music criticism; creative nonfiction; biography and autobiography; the book review; the essay Areas of Supervision 20th and 21st century American fiction and poetry; interdisciplinary studies, especially the intersections of music and literature; creative nonfiction; biography and autobiography; the book review; the essay; public intellectuals; jazz and rock criticism. http://as-cascade.syr.edu/profiles/pages/yaffe-david.html Susan Tierney McNamara email:B sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 10:44 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell Title: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell Publication: Accuracy in Academia Date: 2014.1.27 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2738 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:25:06 -0800 From: Jack Jaynes Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #111 Joni is glowing in that second picture!http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Joni+Mitchell+56th+Annual+GRAMMY+A wards+Pre+LIfKOtZrUOcl.jpg Thanks for sharing Moni.Jack > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 15:53:19 -0500 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #111 > > > JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 28 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 111 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Clive Davis Grammy Party [Moni Kellermann ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:07:13 +0100 > From: Moni Kellermann > Subject: Re: Clive Davis Grammy Party > > Am 28.01.2014 20:21, Wie Betsy Blue so vortrefflich formulierte: > > Joni always hits up Clive's party and who can blame her? She looks great > > with her hair down and curly. > > > > gossipcop.com/clive-davis-grammys-party-photos-2014-pre-grammy-awards-gala-pi cs-pictures/#16 > > > > Forget that stamp there;) > > Here's the full pic: > > http://s3.gossipcop.com/up/gallery/2014-pre-grammys-gala/465118731.jpg > > And two more: > > http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Joni+Mitchell+56th+Annual+GRAMMY+Awards+Pr e+IgprfqzJ2nsl.jpg > > http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Joni+Mitchell+56th+Annual+GRAMMY+Awards+Pr e+LIfKOtZrUOcl.jpg > > > > Enjoy! > moni k. > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #111 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 16:52:12 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell Agreed Paz, I think it's interesting how academics pick up on Joni. Here at Cornell, one of the librarians did a treatise on Hejira that was so bogus and wrong. It was like he had never heard the album before. Weird. I may check the book out though. I think it's interesting that he is looking at her jazz experimentations. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Michael Paz Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:45 AM To: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell Ouch! This is perfect example of why journalists and people who write biographies about people like Joni piss me off so much. This is another book I will not buy or read. On Jan 29, 2014, at 9:43 AM, TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com wrote: Title: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell Publication: Accuracy in Academia Date: 2014.1.27 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2738 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:47:00 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Syracuse Ouch! This is perfect example of why journalists and people who write biographies about people like Joni piss me off so much. This is another book I will not buy or read. On Jan 29, 2014, at 9:43 AM, TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com wrote: Title: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell Publication: Accuracy in Academia Date: 2014.1.27 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2738 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 09:21:48 -0800 From: Jack Jaynes Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #116 Its great that he stayed true to himself.When I was really small I used to listen to his "Stories and Songs for Little Children" cassette. Those songs are the soundtrack to a lot of my early childhood..Thank You Pete for sharing your life with us! Jack > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:18:36 -0500 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #116 > > > JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 28 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 116 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #115 [joe farrell ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:18:09 +0000 > From: joe farrell > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #115 > > Hi Marianne, > > Thank you. > > Yes we can. > > Regards, > > Joe. > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 9:10 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > > > > JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 28 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 115 > > > > > > > > ========== > > > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > > -------- > > Pete Seeger [Marianne Rizzo < > > treegreen1@hotmail.com>] > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:09:32 -0500 > > From: Marianne Rizzo > > Subject: Pete Seeger > > > > Thanks joe, > > This is something we all can aspire to. > > Marianne > > > > >Pete Seeger stayed true to his beliefs and principles throughout his long > > life. Not many people can claim that. He also gave us some inspiring music > > along the way. Rest in Peace. > > > > Joe. > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #115 > > ***************************** > > > > ------- > > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > > ------- > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #116 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 18:05:49 +0000 From: Anita Subject: Re: Syracuse On 29 Jan 2014, at 17:35, Catherine McKay wrote: I always cringe when I read people bad-mouthing others but, like a moth to the flame, I'm sucked in anyway. (Jeez, don'tcha hate that! Catherine, you are fearless in your honesty!( But Jeez, don'tcha love that?) You then wrote; "I agree that Joni does repeat herself a lot but I also fear it might be a product of getting older. For all the braincells we supposedly have, we seem to restrict ourselves to a limited number and tell the same stories over and over" That's often my fear here on JMDL - I have told the same stories so often and so fondly - I imagine people groaning and saying 'oh no, not again.' My hope is that everyone else has forgotten. Mind you, now Jack is here on list with his more youthful brain cells, I shall have to be more mindful! As for Joni and interviews with the press, she'd probably rather be painting. At least with a paintbrush there's a chance of something new emerging, Anita ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 14:12:11 -0500 From: Victor Subject: Re: Pete Seeger I saw Sarah Lee Guthrie perform recently, just last week. She was talking about Pete and how even now, when they were walking around, he would have arms full of trash he had picked up along the way. Love the BSN duet with Joni... Victor in snowy Atlanta Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 28, 2014, at 10:20 AM, c Karma wrote: > > We, residents of the Hudson Valley and music lovers all over the world mourn > the loss of Pete Seeger. His local presence will be missed but his legacy is > always with us. God bless. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyYuFBj8PTU > > CC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:41:11 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Pete Seeger And of course, a STRONG Joni connection with Pete...he performed with her and added a 'bonus' verse and chorus to BSN. Not too many people would have the cred and/or licence to do that but with Pete it was no problem. He also recorded and released it on his own LP. "Daughter, Daughter, don't you know You're not the first to feel just so, But let me say before I go, It's worth it anyway. Some day we may all be surprised, We'll wake and open up our eyes, And then we all will realize The whole world feels this way. We've all been living upside down, And turned around with love unfound, Until we turn and face the sun; Yes, all of us, everyone." RIP Mr. Seeger - a life well-lived. Bob NP: Leftover Salmon, "Walking Shoes" From: c Karma To: "joni@smoe.org" , Date: 01/28/2014 10:22 AM Subject: Pete Seeger Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org We, residents of the Hudson Valley and music lovers all over the world mourn the loss of Pete Seeger. His local presence will be missed but his legacy is always with us. God bless. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyYuFBj8PTU CC - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:21:15 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell Well-stated, Les. Joni's going to behave differently around "us" than she will with the press. Our only agenda is an autograph or a photo or a memory. I thought this article was not written very clearly. I didn't halfway understand what the author was saying. While I would hesitate to buy his book, I know that I will. Bob From: Les Irvin To: joni@smoe.org, Date: 01/29/2014 12:33 PM Subject: Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org I think Joni is "distant" and combative with the press as she feels she's been misquoted often. I sort of agree with Yaffe that she "cannibalizes" herself by immediately adopting a defensive stance, thus helping to perpetuate the very problem she's railing against. On the contrary, in the absence of the press she is sweet and kind and caring and an absolute joy - as long as you don't talk about the press. :-) On 1/29/2014 10:04 AM, Anita wrote: > 'But, Yaffe admitted that Joni often "repeats herself, cannibalizes herself" by repeating verbatim "over and over and over again." "The first time she said it was better" and her repetitiveness could be "because she's more and more distant" as time moves on.' - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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Richard Flynn Professor of Literature Georgia Southern University https://sites.google.com/a/georgiasouthern.edu/rflynn http://georgiasouthern.academia.edu/RichardFlynn > On Jan 29, 2014, at 12:35 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > > I felt both fascinated and repelled by it. On the one hand, this guy says Steven Pinker is "a douchebag" because he "'put[s] on two > hats, the scholar hat and the public hat' in analyzing issues and > events." But, on the other hand, with his use of expressions like "douchebag" and "fuck-up," he speaks more like someone interested in appealing to the public than to the scholar. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but it is if you're accusing someone else of doing it. I always cringe when I read people bad-mouthing others but, like a moth to the flame, I'm sucked in anyway. (Jeez, don'tcha hate that!) I agree that Joni does repeat herself a lot but I also fear it might be a product of getting older. For all the braincells we supposedly have, we seem to restrict ourselves to a limited number and tell the same stories over and over. But then, it also depends on who you're talking to, and maybe this is Joni's public persona. So, although she may appear to be intimate with people at first meeting, she sticks to the same topics for interviews. > > > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: Michael Paz >> To: "joni@smoe.org JMDL" >> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 11:47:00 AM >> Subject: Syracuse >> >> >> Ouch! >> This is perfect example of why journalists and people who write biographies about people like Joni piss me off so much. This is another book I will not buy or read. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jan 29, 2014, at 9:43 AM, TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com wrote: >> >> Title: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell >> Publication: Accuracy in Academia >> Date: 2014.1.27 >> >> http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2738 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:07:13 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Clive Davis Grammy Party Am 28.01.2014 20:21, Wie Betsy Blue so vortrefflich formulierte: > Joni always hits up Clive's party and who can blame her? She looks great > with her hair down and curly. > > gossipcop.com/clive-davis-grammys-party-photos-2014-pre-grammy-awards-gala-pics-pictures/#16 > Forget that stamp there;) Here's the full pic: http://s3.gossipcop.com/up/gallery/2014-pre-grammys-gala/465118731.jpg And two more: http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Joni+Mitchell+56th+Annual+GRAMMY+Awards+Pre+IgprfqzJ2nsl.jpg http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Joni+Mitchell+56th+Annual+GRAMMY+Awards+Pre+LIfKOtZrUOcl.jpg Enjoy! moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 17:46:51 -0600 From: Laura O Subject: Pete Seeger and Joni -Video Audio 1970 Both Sides Now http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=356&from=search ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 18:23:33 -0600 From: Laura O Subject: Re: Pete Seeger and Joni -Video Audio 1970 your welcome, Bob. I remember seeing the information you gave about the additional lyrics and searched in the jm.com video section and there was the video audio with a link to the lyrics! Laura On 1/28/2014 6:20 PM, Bob Muller wrote: > Thanks for that, Laura. The first time I heard it was on a cd I got from Catgirl back in 1999 and I was entranced then. > > Bob > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jan 28, 2014, at 6:46 PM, Laura O wrote: >> >> Both Sides Now >> http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=356&from=search ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 17:32:11 +0000 From: Anita Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #111/ Joni photos Jack, I like the photo where Joni is looking sideways. She doesn't look quite so thin and gaunt in the face as she has done in more recent years. Maybe someone is feeding her some good soul food! Anita On 29 Jan 2014, at 17:25, Jack Jaynes wrote: > Joni is glowing in that second > picture!http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Joni+Mitchell+56th+Annual+GRAMMY+A > wards+Pre+LIfKOtZrUOcl.jpg > Thanks for sharing Moni.Jack > >> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 15:53:19 -0500 >> From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org >> To: joni-digest@smoe.org >> Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #111 >> >> >> JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 28 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 111 >> >> >> >> ========== >> >> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: >> -------- >> Re: Clive Davis Grammy Party [Moni Kellermann > ] >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:07:13 +0100 >> From: Moni Kellermann >> Subject: Re: Clive Davis Grammy Party >> >> Am 28.01.2014 20:21, Wie Betsy Blue so vortrefflich formulierte: >>> Joni always hits up Clive's party and who can blame her? She looks great >>> with her hair down and curly. >>> >>> > gossipcop.com/clive-davis-grammys-party-photos-2014-pre-grammy-awards-gala-pi > cs-pictures/#16 >>> >> >> Forget that stamp there;) >> >> Here's the full pic: >> >> http://s3.gossipcop.com/up/gallery/2014-pre-grammys-gala/465118731.jpg >> >> And two more: >> >> > http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Joni+Mitchell+56th+Annual+GRAMMY+Awards+Pr > e+IgprfqzJ2nsl.jpg >> >> > http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Joni+Mitchell+56th+Annual+GRAMMY+Awards+Pr > e+LIfKOtZrUOcl.jpg >> >> >> >> Enjoy! >> moni k. >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> End of JMDL Digest V2014 #111 >> ***************************** >> >> ------- >> To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. >> Unsubscribe by clicking here: >> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe >> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 21:01:05 +0000 From: Jamie Zubairi Home Subject: Re: Clive Davis Grammy Party At the same party she was heard to say "Canada is a lawless place now". What could she have been talking in response about ? On 28 Jan 2014 20:59, "Moni Kellermann" wrote: > Am 28.01.2014 20:21, Wie Betsy Blue so vortrefflich formulierte: > >> Joni always hits up Clive's party and who can blame her? She looks great >> with her hair down and curly. >> >> gossipcop.com/clive-davis-grammys-party-photos-2014-pre- >> grammy-awards-gala-pics-pictures/#16 >> >> > Forget that stamp there;) > > Here's the full pic: > > http://s3.gossipcop.com/up/gallery/2014-pre-grammys-gala/465118731.jpg > > And two more: > > http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Joni+Mitchell+56th+ > Annual+GRAMMY+Awards+Pre+IgprfqzJ2nsl.jpg > > http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Joni+Mitchell+56th+ > Annual+GRAMMY+Awards+Pre+LIfKOtZrUOcl.jpg > > > > Enjoy! > moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 15:15:55 -0600 From: Laura Stanley Subject: Syraccuse Anita asked: I wondered what other JMDLers feel about Joni's "distance." Does she feel near or far to you? Hi Anita, Joni feels both to me. She's near because she's given me so much food for thought, and I've been affected by her for most of my life. Meeting her at Ruby Lake brought me down to earth - she's down to earth and was totally in the moment there. She's far because I saw how different she is from me, she's older than I am. I tend to think of her egocentrically as if she is my age and knows me, but she's not my age and doesn't know me. I love the Sunshine Coast. It is no wonder she chooses to live there. It is one of the most beautiful places I've been. It is far from where I live but easy to recall. My memory of the beauty of meeting her and experiencing that place gives me the feeling she is not so far. She's one of the nicest people on the planet. She's real not phony. I admire her for that. Love , Laura Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 19:48:28 +0100 From: "Rob Argento" Subject: RE: Pete Seeger Pete is still alive in the hearts of so many of us. We celebrate a live well lived. /Robban - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of c Karma Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 4:20 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Pete Seeger We, residents of the Hudson Valley and music lovers all over the world mourn the loss of Pete Seeger. His local presence will be missed but his legacy is always with us. God bless. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyYuFBj8PTU CC ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 09:46:59 -0500 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Pete Seeger has died - Joni & Pete - Music for DownLoading Folk Singer Pete Seeger has died at the age of 94, following six days in the hospital. Seeger was known as much for his social activism as his singing, and even joined the Occupy Wall Street protests in his 90's. But Seeger, who popularized 'This Land Is Your Land' and 'We Shall Overcome' and wrote 'If I Had a Hammer' and 'Turn, Turn, Turn', never liked the term folk music. "It's been defined as the 'music of the peasants," Seeger told USA TODAY in a 2009 interview, "and then you get someone saying (of Seeger), he's no peasant!" Seeger, who dropped out of Harvard University in 1938 to ride a bicycle across the country, quoted his father, Charles Seeger, a musicologist: "My dad, the old professor, used to say, 'Never get into an argument about what's folk music and what isn't.' " - - - - - - Pete Seeger and Joni Mitchell were guests of John Hartford on a 1970 TV Special. You can DownLoad a copy via Hightail @ the following URL: Here are the complete details. GENTLE ON YOUR MIND KCOP-TV Los Angeles, CA Oct. 18, 1970 Described as a 'rock-folk' TV Special, this program featured John Hartford, Pete Seeger and Joni Mitchell. The full program title was "Hartford, Mitchell & Seeger  Gentle On Your Mind" 01. Frustrated Bird John Hartford 02. In Tall Buildings John Harford 03. A Case Of You Joni Mitchell 04. Bring Me Little Water, Sylvie Pete Seeger 05. Orange Blossom Special John Hartford 06. Both Sides, Now Joni Mitchell & Pete Seeger 07. Willy Joni Mitchell 08. For Free Joni Mitchell 09. A Simple Thing As Love John Hartford 10. Sunshine Lady ... John Hartford 11. The Water Is Wide Pete Seeger & Joni Mitchell 12. Mr. Tambourine Man Joni Mitchell & Hartford - - - - - Joni and Pete performed "Both Sides, Now" as a duet. Pete wrote, and sings, an additional new verse. Daughter, daughter, don't you know You're not the first to feel just so But let me say before I go It's worth it anyway Someday we may all be surprised We'll wake and open up our eyes And then we all will realize The whole world feels this way We've all been living upside down And turned around with love unfound Until we turn and face the sun Yes, all of us, everyone - - - - - Also included, in a seperate folder, are two Bonus Songs: 1. The BYRDS - Mr. Tambourine Man 2. BOB DYLAN - Mr. Tambourine Man ENJOY! Let's all thank Pete Seeger for fighting the Good Fight! andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - simonM http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/ UpDated & Complete, The following document contains a number of 'Active Links' once DownLoaded to your computer. http://jonimitchell.com/music/InspiredByJoni_theAlbums.pdf ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:21:40 -0800 From: Betsy Blue Subject: Clive Davis Grammy Party Joni always hits up Clive's party and who can blame her? She looks great with her hair down and curly. gossipcop.com/clive-davis-grammys-party-photos-2014-pre-grammy-awards-gala-pics-pictures/#16 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 13:02:04 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell LMAO!! She certainly LOVES to talk and I have always fond her to be very warm in person as well as extremely intelligent. Perhaps she repeats herself esp to the press types in the hopes of penetrating their thick skulls... I do find it odd that she does not put more stuff out there thru her website which I am sure the owner of the fabulous site would do a fine job as always. Paz On Jan 29, 2014, at 11:30 AM, Les Irvin wrote: I think Joni is "distant" and combative with the press as she feels she's been misquoted often. I sort of agree with Yaffe that she "cannibalizes" herself by immediately adopting a defensive stance, thus helping to perpetuate the very problem she's railing against. On the contrary, in the absence of the press she is sweet and kind and caring and an absolute joy - as long as you don't talk about the press. :-) On 1/29/2014 10:04 AM, Anita wrote: > 'But, Yaffe admitted that Joni often "repeats herself, cannibalizes herself" by repeating verbatim "over and over and over again." "The first time she said it was better" and her repetitiveness could be "because she's more and more distant" as time moves on.' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 11:42:51 -0800 From: Mary Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2014 #101 Thank you, Bob, I had no idea he wrote a verse. Who better than to do so, but not many people would attempt adding on for Joni, but it is quite beautiful. I did not know that he did that song. GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel road, where the barb wire meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:41:44 -0500 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2014 #101 > > > JMDL Digest Tuesday, January 28 2014 Volume 2014 : Number 101 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Pete Seeger [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 10:41:11 -0500 > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: Re: Pete Seeger > > And of course, a STRONG Joni connection with Pete...he performed with her > and added a 'bonus' verse and chorus to BSN. Not too many people would > have the cred and/or licence to do that but with Pete it was no problem. > He also recorded and released it on his own LP. > > > > "Daughter, Daughter, don't you know > You're not the first to feel just so, > But let me say before I go, > It's worth it anyway. > > Some day we may all be surprised, > We'll wake and open up our eyes, > And then we all will realize > The whole world feels this way. > We've all been living upside down, > And turned around with love unfound, > Until we turn and face the sun; > Yes, all of us, everyone." > > RIP Mr. Seeger - a life well-lived. > > Bob > > NP: Leftover Salmon, "Walking Shoes" > > > > > From: c Karma > To: "joni@smoe.org" , > Date: 01/28/2014 10:22 AM > Subject: Pete Seeger > Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org > > > > We, residents of the Hudson Valley and music lovers all over the world > mourn > the loss of Pete Seeger. His local presence will be missed but his legacy > is > always with us. God bless. > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyYuFBj8PTU > > CC > > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #101 > ***************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 17:54:28 +0000 From: Anita Subject: Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell On 29 Jan 2014, at 17:30, Les Irvin wrote the absence of the press she is sweet and kind and caring and an absolute joy - as long as you don't talk about the press. :-) Yes, the public person opposed to the private individual, I guess. Anita ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 00:29:01 -0500 From: Gerald Kent Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #97 Welcome Jack, always good to see someone appreciate Joni regardless of age. Gerry Sent from my iPad > On Jan 28, 2014, at 2:47 PM, carmel rotem wrote: > > Welcome Jack! > > I think (might be wrong though) I was the youngest here until > you joined in (I'm 29). > glad to not be anymore :-) > > Carmel from Israel. > > > > > On > Tuesday, January 28, 2014 6:27 AM, JMDL Digest > wrote: > > > JMDL Digest Monday, January 27 2014 Volume 2014 : > Number 097 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: > JMDL Digest V2014 #93 [kenevans kenevans ] > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: > Mon, 27 Jan 2014 23:25:26 -0500 > From: kenevans kenevans > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2014 #93 > > Jack Jaynes Music from YouTube ? > Good to > see young people into Joni, though I always wonder "wow how > did that happen?" >>> >>> On Jan 25, 2014, at 1:01 PM, Jack Jaynes wrote: >>> >>> Hello fellow > Jimdles! I just wanted to introduce myself to you all, my name >>> is >>> Jack > and I am 18 years old. I've been listening to Joni for quite some time >>> now > and with every new song I discover I find myself connecting to her as a >>> > musician and just.. as a human being! >>> Well that's all I got, I'm not very > good at intros and hellos but I am >>> looking >>> forward to chatting with you > all! > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2014 #97 > **************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the > list,sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 10:30:36 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: New Library item: Syracuse Professor Studies Joni Mitchell I think Joni is "distant" and combative with the press as she feels she's been misquoted often. I sort of agree with Yaffe that she "cannibalizes" herself by immediately adopting a defensive stance, thus helping to perpetuate the very problem she's railing against. On the contrary, in the absence of the press she is sweet and kind and caring and an absolute joy - as long as you don't talk about the press. :-) On 1/29/2014 10:04 AM, Anita wrote: > 'But, Yaffe admitted that Joni often "repeats herself, cannibalizes herself" by repeating verbatim "over and over and over again." "The first time she said it was better" and her repetitiveness could be "because she's more and more distant" as time moves on.' ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 16:09:32 -0500 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: Pete Seeger Thanks joe, This is something we all can aspire to. Marianne >Pete Seeger stayed true to his beliefs and principles throughout his long life. Not many people can claim that. He also gave us some inspiring music along the way. Rest in Peace. Joe. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2014 14:36:28 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Syracuse A right-wing watchdog over academia! God help us! I did find the article to be strangely written and you've made it make some more sense (in its own weird way.) >________________________________ > From: Richard Flynn >To: Catherine McKay >Cc: Michael Paz ; "joni@smoe.org JMDL" >Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2014 2:53:33 PM >Subject: Re: Syracuse > > >I think I might have just replied to Paz, but I wanted to point out on the list that this is an account of Yaffe's MLA talk by a group that styles itself as a right-wing watchdog over academia. Because of a conflict, I was unable to attend the talk when I was at MLA, but I would not trust this to be an accurate summary of his talk. I am looking forward to Yaffe's book on Joni. I met him only once, but I think he'll write an interesting book. I wouldn't dismiss it on the basis of this piece. > >Richard Flynn >Professor of Literature >Georgia Southern University >https://sites.google.com/a/georgiasouthern.edu/rflynn >http://georgiasouthern.academia.edu/RichardFlynn > > > >>> ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2014 #29 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe