From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #481 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, December 10 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 481 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- JJoni mention in Psychology Today [Victor ] RE: New Video added to Library: Lakota ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: JMDL --Joni in other languages [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: A greek JM tribute - birthday party [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Confused about the ballet [Dave Blackburn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 10:05:25 -0500 From: Victor Subject: JJoni mention in Psychology Today Joni is referenced in this article. Neuroscientists Confirm That Our Loved Ones Become Ourselves Self-identity is entwined with the people you empathize with at a neural level. http://www.psychologytoday.com/em/131801 Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 17:20:50 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: New Video added to Library: Lakota I really enjoyed this video, too, Mark. I had to quick go into the guitar database to see if it was transcribed. Of course it was, by Marian Russell, and it's in the same tuning as The Windfall. It's too bad this video didn't have better sound quality. I would love to learn it just the way she plays it here, with that guitar. Does anyone recognize the guitar she is playing there? Susan Tierney McNamara email:B sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 2:21 PM To: est86mlm@ameritech.net; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: New Video added to Library: Lakota Wow. This is a beautiful and haunting rendition of 'Lakota'. Without all the production and strident vocal delivery that accompanied the song on 'Chalk Mark in a Rainstorm', a beautiful melody comes through with a compassionate, heartfelt lyric. The repetition of 'pity me' still bothers me but still, with just Joni on guitar and Larry Klein on bass, this is a really nice performance. I've been thinking about 'Chalk Mark in a Rainstorm' and how it sort of gets kicked to the bottom of the pile of Joni's output. I admit, it's not my favorite. But it did produce a few songs that are gems of quality. Consider: The Beat of Black Wings The Tea Leaf Prophecy And I know these are debatable to many but I also think these are great songs: Snakes and Ladders Number One I also like The Reoccuring Dream although it isn't so much a song as a collage. A finely constructed comment on consumerism. 'The Fiddle and the Drum' ballet followed this one up with 'Ethiopa' and coming after that last 'Who cares' in 'The Reoccuring Dream' it was like having ice cold water thrown in your face. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 4:06 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: New Video added to Library: Lakota Title: Lakota San Remo Songfest, San Remo, Italy 1988-10-22 Joni appears at the San Remo Song Fest where she also received the 1988 Tenco Award for her songwriting.

Larry Klein on bass guitar. http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=369 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 09:50:25 +0000 From: Mike B Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #480 Mark, I totally agree about the San Remo Lakota. I *do* like much of Chalkmark, but Lakota was never my favourite-- its jangly nervous rhythm and monotonous keyboard riff always put me off. Until I heard the soulful San Remo performance and realised just how good the lyrics are. A pity we can't get to hear the initial demo tapes for all the CIAR material... Interesting that you particularly like Snakes & Ladders-- that's always been the track that I skip: clever lyrics but the musical accompaniment way too frantic for my tastes (although I can see that's appropriate to the theme of the song). I'll give it another listen now, though. (Similarly, Nothing Can be Done was always my 'bum track' on NRH, but given the recent discussion of it I need to give it another chance...). I love the hypnotic guitar line of Special Place, and the simplicity of its lyrics. And the gorgeous lushness of the Tea-Leaf Prophecy. It sounds superb on the Prairie Girl compilation, coming straight after Urge For Going ('she says I'm leaving now but she don't go'...). The Herbie H version of Tea-Leaf I want to like, but just find too dreary-- also there's a complexity lost by not including the 'Study war no more' theme. Re-Occurring Dream's another favourite, which I'd love to hear performed by an actual choir (it should still work without the collage of commercial clips). Anyway, thanks for your post! M > Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 03:00:04 -0500 > From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org > To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #480 > > onlyJMDL Digest Monday, December 9 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 480 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Alberta blog link [Shari Eaton ] > Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1717 [Mary Burlett ] > Alberta Ballet - creative blog [Anita ] > Alberta blog link [Anita ] > Re: JMDL --Joni in other languages [BarbaRent7@aol.com] > Re: Alberta blog link [Anita ] > Re: Seeff HOSL session [Michael Paz ] > Re: New Video added to Library: Lakota ["Mark" ] > Re: Seeff HOSL session ["Cassy" ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 02:37:43 -0800 > From: Shari Eaton > Subject: Re: Alberta blog link > > Thank you a million times. I will read this again and again. > > - - Shari > > > On Dec 8, 2013, at 2:20 AM, Anita wrote: > > > > Oops the link didn't paste. Try > > > > http://www.albertaballet.com/content/joni-mitchell-creation-blog > > > > Not much good at this, but hope it works > > Anita > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 11:38:12 -0500 > From: Mary Burlett > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1717 > > Need help to nsubscribe! > > > On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 3:00 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > > > > JMDL Digest Tuesday, December 3 2013 Volume 2013 : Number > > 1717 > > > > > > > > ========== > > > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > > -------- > > Re: Dancing Clown (was Re: Geffen, Lead Balloon) > > [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2013 09:54:20 -0500 > > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > > Subject: Re: Dancing Clown (was Re: Geffen, Lead Balloon) > > > > I've asked this before but got no answer and I really want to know: > > > > What's so terrible about Dancing Clown? I like it. It's cute; it's fun.> > > > > Hi David, I get that plenty of people like the song; the video is > > similarly playful and fun (Joni dancing with her cat). Anita said it most > > succinctly - the melody and the words - the former is mostly non-existent > > and the latter are contrived (pick some horses' names from a racing > > newspaper and come up with a song). The addition of Billy Idol and Tom > > Petty was just another calculated move to bring her back into the > > mainstream by including popular performers of the day as a marketing ploy. > > The production values on ALL of CMIARS are horrendous and overblown and > > particularly on this song. All just my opinion, of course. CMIARS is, to > > my ears, the low point of Joni's career. Represents everything that she > > states to be against. > > > > Bob > > > > NP: Grizzly Bear, "Listen and Wait" > > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1717 > > ****************************** > > > > ------- > > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > > ------- > > > > > > - -- > Mary Mosca Burlett > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 10:17:32 +0000 > From: Anita > Subject: Alberta Ballet - creative blog > > I don't know if this is old news, (it is from Luminato) but in search for the latest ballet update, I stumbled across Jean Grand Maitres's 'creative blog' about putting the Love ballet together. With Joni. The difficulties and complexities of the task are clearly outlined. > > As (elsewhere) Joni put her take on Love, ''On the one this, on the other hand....' > > Thanks to so many for the Off List kindness and commiserations. Very much appreciated! > Anita > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 10:20:10 +0000 > From: Anita > Subject: Alberta blog link > > Oops the link didn't paste. Try > > http://www.albertaballet.com/content/joni-mitchell-creation-blog > > Not much good at this, but hope it works > Anita > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 10:38:51 -0500 (EST) > From: BarbaRent7@aol.com > Subject: Re: JMDL --Joni in other languages > > If you ever want to hear a cool version of a Joni song, watch Matt Dillon > in "Ghost Town" where he goes back to Cambodia on a drug deal. At the very > end of the film (the best part, the end) a girl sings Joni's classic song in > Cambodian! haha Shows how great Joni is since she is universal! I wonder > if there'll ever be a record of her tunes in Greek, French, German or > Italian for us someday? I've already heard Grace Jones music in French which was > quite cool. Hava great day, mon amis Babs of SoCal > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 14:07:33 +0000 > From: Anita > Subject: Re: Alberta blog link > > Reading Jean's analysis - his understanding, time and care does make me wonder how he personally feels now the dance and his choreography have been blown out (if that is what has happened). The blog reveals the complexity of this creation and Joni and his struggle to create a 'coherent narrative.' Maybe they both felt, in the end, that nothing could be done. > > Anita > > On 8 Dec 2013, at 10:37, Shari Eaton wrote: > > > Thank you a million times. I will read this again and again. > > > > - Shari > > > >> On Dec 8, 2013, at 2:20 AM, Anita wrote: > >> > >> Oops the link didn't paste. Try > >> > >> http://www.albertaballet.com/content/joni-mitchell-creation-blog > >> > >> Not much good at this, but hope it works > >> Anita > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 11:27:20 -0600 > From: Michael Paz > Subject: Re: Seeff HOSL session > > Well I guess I am the biggest geek, so far as I have a set of the Both Sides > Now prints that were given to me by a very special friend (Hi Kakki!) The one > of her with her smoking a fag from the front and from behind is behind my > piano. The others are in my studio. Also in a place of honor on the side of my > piano is the Jack Merkel original using her lyrics as brushstrokes. I also > used this foto on the PazFest CD release in 2000. I also have a ton of Joni > Shit in my studio on the walls that include: The placard from her dressing > room which is her name written in glitter. This is from the artists against > hunger and homelessness show when she played with Jimmy Buffets band. This is > the night I danced with her cheek to cheek to the music of the Neville Bros. > GUSH! I also have several fotos sent to me by JMDL friends from the BSN tour > (Hi David I miss you). I also have a full size poster of the TNT tribute up in > my studio. There is a whole trunk full of stuff that I have collected over the > years but just don't have enough space for. Freda accuses me of having altars, > whatever.... > One of my treasures is copies of handwritten charts with lyrics and notes in > her hand that were given to me by the ever sweet John Kelly who also sent me a > signed pic of him dressed up in Joni drag as well as a flight case for my VG-8 > and a signed copy of his book. Ah treasures. Joni shit Joni shit!!!! > > Best > > > Paz > > > > > > > > > On Dec 7, 2013, at 8:32 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > > Me Me Me! > > I have the poster for her Dreamland comp framed and hanging in my bedroom, > along with 10 mini-copies of her artwork, as well as a photo of her playing a > guitar that I won at the Idylwild raffle. (The photo, not the guitar). > > Bob > > NP: Amber Epp, "All I Want" > > > ________________________________ > From: Betsy Blue > To: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Friday, December 6, 2013 10:46 PM > Subject: Seeff HOSL session > > > I was shopping for a Joni print for a friend, when I noticed an interesting > detail. In the picture of her at the side of her pool, you can see that her > nails were painted a purplish color, but they are totally thrashed. > Celebrities are just like us: their manicures get ruined. > > Also, I can't come close to bring able to afford a custom printed photo. I > am seriously considering one of the art.com posters of her Vogue pic, > though. Fess up. Who has a poster hanging in their bedroom? > > Betsy > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 11:20:53 -0800 > From: "Mark" > Subject: Re: New Video added to Library: Lakota > > Wow. This is a beautiful and haunting rendition of 'Lakota'. Without all > the production and strident vocal delivery that accompanied the song on > 'Chalk Mark in a Rainstorm', a beautiful melody comes through with a > compassionate, heartfelt lyric. The repetition of 'pity me' still bothers > me but still, with just Joni on guitar and Larry Klein on bass, this is a > really nice performance. > > I've been thinking about 'Chalk Mark in a Rainstorm' and how it sort of gets > kicked to the bottom of the pile of Joni's output. I admit, it's not my > favorite. But it did produce a few songs that are gems of quality. > Consider: > > The Beat of Black Wings > The Tea Leaf Prophecy > > And I know these are debatable to many but I also think these are great > songs: > > Snakes and Ladders > Number One > > I also like The Reoccuring Dream although it isn't so much a song as a > collage. A finely constructed comment on consumerism. 'The Fiddle and the > Drum' ballet followed this one up with 'Ethiopa' and coming after that last > 'Who cares' in 'The Reoccuring Dream' it was like having ice cold water > thrown in your face. > > Mark in Seattle > - -----Original Message----- > From: est86mlm@ameritech.net > Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2013 4:06 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: New Video added to Library: Lakota > > Title: Lakota San Remo Songfest, San Remo, Italy > 1988-10-22 > > Joni appears at the San Remo Song Fest where she also received the > 1988 Tenco Award for her songwriting.

> > Larry Klein on bass guitar. > > http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=369 > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 18:22:54 -0800 > From: "Cassy" > Subject: Re: Seeff HOSL session > > I have a framed copy of the Hejira poster over my fireplace. I have about > 10 or so other posters not yet framed... waiting for my new house. > > Cassy > > - -----Original Message----- > From: Betsy Blue > Sent: Friday, December 06, 2013 7:46 PM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Seeff HOSL session > > I was shopping for a Joni print for a friend, when I noticed an interesting > detail. In the picture of her at the side of her pool, you can see that her > nails were painted a purplish color, but they are totally thrashed. > Celebrities are just like us: their manicures get ruined. > > Also, I can't come close to bring able to afford a custom printed photo. I > am seriously considering one of the art.com posters of her Vogue pic, > though. Fess up. Who has a poster hanging in their bedroom? > > Betsy > > ------------------------------ > > End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #480 > ********************************* > > ------- > Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 09:14:22 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: JMDL --Joni in other languages Babs, that recording is by an L.A. band called Dengue Fever. Their vocalist, Chhom Nimol, is from Cambodia and sings in the native Khmer language. It is very haunting. There's certainly no need to "wonder" about Joni songs in other languages...all the ones you list as well as many more already exist. Want to hear "The Last Time I Saw Richard" in Urguayan Spanish? It's out there. "Songs To Aging Children Come" in Estonian? It's out there. BSN in almost EVERY language imaginable? They are out there. I just posted a short while ago about a Polish singer who recorded an entire Joni tribute CD in her native language. Now that I've listened to it several times I can attest to its loveliness. She joins Irma Schultz Keller who has released an album of Joni in Swedish. Like you say, it does attest to the universal appeal of Joni around the world. Bob NP: They Might Be Giants, "Tesla" From: BarbaRent7@aol.com To: joni@smoe.org, Date: 12/08/2013 10:46 AM Subject: Re: JMDL --Joni in other languages Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org If you ever want to hear a cool version of a Joni song, watch Matt Dillon in "Ghost Town" where he goes back to Cambodia on a drug deal. At the very end of the film (the best part, the end) a girl sings Joni's classic song in Cambodian! haha Shows how great Joni is since she is universal! I wonder if there'll ever be a record of her tunes in Greek, French, German or Italian for us someday? I've already heard Grace Jones music in French which was quite cool. Hava great day, mon amis Babs of SoCal - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 09:33:09 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: A greek JM tribute - birthday party I am glad this concert went well. The sax player, David Lynch, who I believe is married to the vocalist, contacted me about sending him charts for this show, and I sent him all the charts he needed for it. Dave On Dec 9, 2013, at 8:54 AM, DearMusic DJockey wrote: > Dear listers > > > Just a quick belated note to let you know of an exceptional concert  > tribute to Joni Mitchell for her 70th birthday, that took place in a very > warm and cozy concert loft [*Gazarte > emid=3&lang=el>*], > in Athens, Greece. > > *Elli Paspala *, a NYC born and > musically educated greek singer, a confessed JM fun since her teens, with > her jazzy ensemble of excellent virtuosos [David Lynch on horns/flute, > Giotis Kiourtsoglou on electric basses, Mihalis Kapilidis on percussion, > Takis Farazis on piano and Giorgos Limakis on guitars], performed a 2.5 > hours decently representative list of JM songs. They even included > astonishing versions *of **Smoke* [*Try Another*] and *Jungle Line*. > > Elli's intimate, humble and respectful attitude towards JM, combined with > her true vocal talent and brilliant orchestration was a blessing for the > night, which rated above my expectations. Paspala at times was impressively > accurate to the point that you could fool yourself that you had JM at her > best in front of you. Only a few weaknesses in songs like Cleaner from De > Moines, requiring more than a one man horn section, but nothing below good. > Many goose-bumping renditions during the night of which I must mention *Cold > Blue Steel** And Sweet Fire* with the quivering and haunting bass line > and *Black > Crow* where the whole band exploded. > > This real treat was rescheduled for two more consecutive Sunday nights [the > last was unplanned] and received flattering reviews from the local press. > > It is a pity that such art cannot afford to be published. I hope that some > YouTube clips will emerge soon. For some older clips with different lineups > click *here [BC] * and *here > [Twisted] *. > > > Have a great day > > Dear Music DJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 18:54:51 +0200 From: DearMusic DJockey Subject: A greek JM tribute - birthday party Dear listers Just a quick belated note to let you know of an exceptional concert  tribute to Joni Mitchell for her 70th birthday, that took place in a very warm and cozy concert loft [*Gazarte *], in Athens, Greece. *Elli Paspala *, a NYC born and musically educated greek singer, a confessed JM fun since her teens, with her jazzy ensemble of excellent virtuosos [David Lynch on horns/flute, Giotis Kiourtsoglou on electric basses, Mihalis Kapilidis on percussion, Takis Farazis on piano and Giorgos Limakis on guitars], performed a 2.5 hours decently representative list of JM songs. They even included astonishing versions *of **Smoke* [*Try Another*] and *Jungle Line*. Elli's intimate, humble and respectful attitude towards JM, combined with her true vocal talent and brilliant orchestration was a blessing for the night, which rated above my expectations. Paspala at times was impressively accurate to the point that you could fool yourself that you had JM at her best in front of you. Only a few weaknesses in songs like Cleaner from De Moines, requiring more than a one man horn section, but nothing below good. Many goose-bumping renditions during the night of which I must mention *Cold Blue Steel** And Sweet Fire* with the quivering and haunting bass line and *Black Crow* where the whole band exploded. This real treat was rescheduled for two more consecutive Sunday nights [the last was unplanned] and received flattering reviews from the local press. It is a pity that such art cannot afford to be published. I hope that some YouTube clips will emerge soon. For some older clips with different lineups click *here [BC] * and *here [Twisted] *. Have a great day Dear Music DJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 08:34:11 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #480 The San Remo show is a great one, no doubt - Joni complains a bit about being sick and having vocal issues but she still turns in a great performance. The highlight is a premiere of "Passion Play" for which she has chords but no words, so she just scats her way through it. Quite exciting to hear, not sure if that video is available or not. The audio certainly is. Bob NP: Camper van Beethoven, "Northern California Girls" - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 21:10:32 -0500 From: David Marine Subject: Confused about the ballet Hey List, I was only peripherally reading the ballet thread. I remember one lister saying that there weren't many ballet fans on the list, but I think we actually had a lot of good talk when the first ballet was touring. So what IS going on with the new ballet? Both the Alberta Ballet site and Joni dot com still have the performance dates up and unchanged. I know ticket purchasers have received a notice that... what? It is cancelled? Postponed? Have there been official press releases from both camps? What is the speculation? My sense is that Joni decided that the theme was too big for the ballet, and the project not working. Has she said this? Sorry if all of this has been answered! Best, David ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2013 20:16:54 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Confused about the ballet That is exactly what happened, David. They were beginning rehearsals and Joni decided the theme of Love could not be properly conveyed in a single ballet. Although management says that they respect her vision one imagines they are stressing about the business end of such a move. Dave On Dec 9, 2013, at 6:10 PM, David Marine wrote: > My sense is that Joni decided that the theme was too big for the ballet, and the project not working. Has she said this? > > Sorry if all of this has been answered! > > Best, > > David ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #481 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe