From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #461 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, November 24 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 461 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Joni Covers 177 - Time to give Thanks [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni Covers 177 - Time to give Thanks [Bob Muller ] Re: Joni Covers 177 - Time to give Thanks [Bob Muller ] a strange boy ["ingrid lochrenberg" ] Re: Strange Boy [Catherine McKay ] Re: Blues [kbhla@fastmail.fm] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 08:20:50 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Joni Covers 177 - Time to give Thanks Happy weekend everyone, and here we go with another edition of Joni covers, a brand new one, Volume 177. Some familiar names and some not so familiar, and a shout out to my good friend Paul for his contributions, and Mark Domyancich too. I'm thankful for the Joni community! A couple of notes - the album kicks off with a spell-binding live version of Woodstock from the late Michael Hedges, accompanied on fretless bass by Michael Manring, unreleased and incredible. Roger McGuinn's "Errol Flynn" version of Dreamland was on his 1976 album Cardiff Rose (he released it before Joni did!) and the import CD release features a live version of the tune. Two Guitars is a father-daughter duo. A couple of deep tracks, a couple of Ediths (one from our fellow JMDL'er Pamela Lucarelli), and plenty of Rivers and BSN's for you as usual. The turkey: http://goo.gl/kWo2IF Stuffed with: 1. Michael Hedges & Michael Manring - Woodstock 2. Barb Jungr - River 3. Kathy Simpson - A Case of You 4. Kathy Simpson - Twisted 5. Kathy Simpson - Carey 6. Ulrick Arturen - Both Sides Now 7. Pamela Lucarelli - Edith And The Kingpin 8. Roger McGuinn - Dreamland (live) 9. The Real Group - River 10. Annie Lynch - A Case Of You 11. Reka Nagy Quartet - The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines 12. Paula Standing - Both Sides Now 13. Yori Swart - Coyote 14. Harley Tuca - Songs To Aging Children Come 15. Mary Lou O'Brien - River 16. Bethany Joy - Court And Spark 17. Rooftopmusik - Edith And The Kingpin 18. Two Guitars - Both Sides Now 18 songs, 18 hits! Enjoy. Bob And if you missed last week's (#95) it's good for another week: http://goo.gl/qrThmc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 08:53:29 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni Covers 177 - Time to give Thanks Sorry for the inconvenience...here's a new link: http://goo.gl/JOLaQu Bob NP: Rachel Z, "Moon At The Window" From: Bob Muller To: Bob Muller ; JMDL Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 11:37 AM Subject: Re: Joni Covers 177 - Time to give Thanks Looks like I have to fix the download...hang tight. Bob From: Bob Muller To: JMDL Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 11:20 AM Subject: Joni Covers 177 - Time to give Thanks Happy weekend everyone, and here we go with another edition of Joni covers, a brand new one, Volume 177. Some familiar names and some not so familiar, and a shout out to my good friend Paul for his contributions, and Mark Domyancich too. I'm thankful for the Joni community! A couple of notes - the album kicks off with a spell-binding live version of Woodstock from the late Michael Hedges, accompanied on fretless bass by Michael Manring, unreleased and incredible. Roger McGuinn's "Errol Flynn" version of Dreamland was on his 1976 album Cardiff Rose (he released it before Joni did!) and the import CD release features a live version of the tune. Two Guitars is a father-daughter duo. A couple of deep tracks, a couple of Ediths (one from our fellow JMDL'er Pamela Lucarelli), and plenty of Rivers and BSN's for you as usual. The turkey: http://goo.gl/kWo2IF Stuffed with: 1. Michael Hedges & Michael Manring - Woodstock 2. Barb Jungr - River 3. Kathy Simpson - A Case of You 4. Kathy Simpson - Twisted 5. Kathy Simpson - Carey 6. Ulrick Arturen - Both Sides Now 7. Pamela Lucarelli - Edith And The Kingpin 8. Roger McGuinn - Dreamland (live) 9. The Real Group - River 10. Annie Lynch - A Case Of You 11. Reka Nagy Quartet - The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines 12. Paula Standing - Both Sides Now 13. Yori Swart - Coyote 14. Harley Tuca - Songs To Aging Children Come 15. Mary Lou O'Brien - River 16. Bethany Joy - Court And Spark 17. Rooftopmusik - Edith And The Kingpin 18. Two Guitars - Both Sides Now 18 songs, 18 hits! Enjoy. Bob And if you missed last week's (#95) it's good for another week: http://goo.gl/qrThmc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 10:40:16 -0800 From: Mary Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2013 #1683 Stranger boys I too have loved this thread. There isn't a clinker in the whole song. Joni channeling genius metaphors for a long road trip. Love it. All her lines now I have to revisit in light of this thread. David ( DJP ) , I love that image of a cartoon. It is not only meant for a "freeway", Karma, it could be any vexing part of road filled with traffic. The straight roads where people are always putting on the brake lights...going up hill, are perplexing to me. Inexplicable, indeed. GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel road, where the barb wire meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS > Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 03:00:02 -0500 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1683 > > > JMDL Digest Saturday, November 23 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1683 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Strange Boy ["David J. Phillips" ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2013 23:53:27 -0500 > From: "David J. Phillips" > Subject: Re: Strange Boy > > After all of this wonderfully evocative talk about that wonderfully > evocative song, I feel kind of foolish bringing this up, but: > > one of my favorite cartoons is of a highway sign reading "TRAFFIC EASES > INEXPLICABLY 1/2 MILE AHEAD" > > DJP > > > > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 08:37:50 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Joni Covers 177 - Time to give Thanks Looks like I have to fix the download...hang tight. Bob ________________________________ From: Bob Muller To: JMDL Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2013 11:20 AM Subject: Joni Covers 177 - Time to give Thanks Happy weekend everyone, and here we go with another edition of Joni covers, a brand new one, Volume 177. Some familiar names and some not so familiar, and a shout out to my good friend Paul for his contributions, and Mark Domyancich too. I'm thankful for the Joni community! A couple of notes - the album kicks off with a spell-binding live version of Woodstock from the late Michael Hedges, accompanied on fretless bass by Michael Manring, unreleased and incredible. Roger McGuinn's "Errol Flynn" version of Dreamland was on his 1976 album Cardiff Rose (he released it before Joni did!) and the import CD release features a live version of the tune. Two Guitars is a father-daughter duo. A couple of deep tracks, a couple of Ediths (one from our fellow JMDL'er Pamela Lucarelli), and plenty of Rivers and BSN's for you as usual. The turkey: http://goo.gl/kWo2IF Stuffed with: 1. Michael Hedges & Michael Manring - Woodstock 2. Barb Jungr - River 3. Kathy Simpson - A Case of You 4. Kathy Simpson - Twisted 5. Kathy Simpson - Carey 6. Ulrick Arturen - Both Sides Now 7. Pamela Lucarelli - Edith And The Kingpin 8. Roger McGuinn - Dreamland (live) 9. The Real Group - River 10. Annie Lynch - A Case Of You 11. Reka Nagy Quartet - The Dry Cleaner From Des Moines 12. Paula Standing - Both Sides Now 13. Yori Swart - Coyote 14. Harley Tuca - Songs To Aging Children Come 15. Mary Lou O'Brien - River 16. Bethany Joy - Court And Spark 17. Rooftopmusik - Edith And The Kingpin 18. Two Guitars - Both Sides Now 18 songs, 18 hits! Enjoy. Bob And if you missed last week's (#95) it's good for another week: http://goo.gl/qrThmc ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 17:43:51 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Blues Mike, Blue Motel Room actually contains little that one could call blues musically despite the lyrics I got the blues inside and outside my head. Some people think of blues as a feeling, or an attitude, so in that sense it may be blues, but it doesn't employ the scales or chords that are usually called blues. Its more of a torch ballad in the vein of My Funny Valentine or Body and Soul, to my ears at least, drawing from a 40s sensibility. What is different about it is that it is clearly written on guitar and not piano like most standard ballads were. The chord motion is more the parallel shape movement that guitar is so good at than the extended ii-V-I motion of most standards. A Strange Boy is not really a blues either but it has a bluesy sounding pentatonic riff and Larry C ran with that and played all his coolest blues licks over it taking full advantage of the Dmajor/D minor ambiguity that runs through the song. Be Cool, by contrast is certainly a blues and has some jazzed up reharmonizations in it to boot. Its no wonder so many jazz vocalists are covering it. Dave On Nov 23, 2013, at 10:25 AM, Mike B wrote: > Kakki thanks for flagging up that Hejira interview, it's a great find! > I like Dave and Sue's suggestion that Chogyam Trungpa influenced 'Strange > Boy', and that in the 'He sees cars...' verse she's admiring his simplified > uncluttered insight, whether into traffic patterns or facial patterns. > A musical question for Dave (or fellow-musicians, but I know Dave has played > this), if I may: how 'blues-ish' is Blue Motel Room? Is Joni actually using > traditional blues chords here, or did she more likely stumble on > blues-sounding voicings through the particular tuning used for that song? > Thanks for the great discussions! > M ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 12:01:19 +0200 From: "ingrid lochrenberg" Subject: a strange boy Dear all I see the strange boy as being perceptive of the mathematical description intrinsic in traffic flow and incoming waves alike, where both contain sequences that become bunched up in time and then spread further apart over time again.....sequences can be constructed in this ongoing movement, with space setting the waves and cars apart, and mass being a property possessed by these entities. I also see the wordplay on rhythm and pattern , referring to bnow I am surf rising, now parched ribs of sand at his sideb as being reflected in the most beautiful rhythm being expressed in the guitar playing, with the base note being reached only after an intricate passage of notes toward the beginning of the bar.......there is an interplay of predictability and unpredictability in the sequences of notes, an undulating melody, and then it unfolds and descends to a powerful base note, as in his recurring relapse to youthful immaturity.....the songs speaks of rhythm and life and the currents and energy therein. It conjures up wave-particle duality, and energy-mass equivalence, the energy being in the forceful waves, the dangerous traffic, and youthful vibrancy on a skateboard and surfboard, as well as in lovemaking. It is one of the songs of hers I like most to play, the others being Song to a Seagull, Woman of Heart and Mind, This Flight Tonight and Electricity. I agree that she was being at her creative best when she wrote this. Regards Ingrid ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 03:40:57 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Strange Boy That's very funny. It is very strange and very true. And why does everyone at the supermarket decide to go to the checkout counters at the same time? - ----- Original Message ----- > From: David J. Phillips > To: > Cc: "joni@smoe.org" > Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 11:53:27 PM > Subject: Re: Strange Boy > > After all of this wonderfully evocative talk about that wonderfully > evocative song, I feel kind of foolish bringing this up, but: > > one of my favorite cartoons is of a highway sign reading "TRAFFIC EASES > INEXPLICABLY 1/2 MILE AHEAD" > > DJP > > > > On 22/11/13 21:5856, c Karma wrote: >> I believe that line references someone looking out at a freeway.(Hmmmm, the >> 405?) and becoming mesmerized by the peristaltic visual of groups of cars > as >> they clump and relax...imagine the larger picture of what it looks like > when >> you are in traffic and the drivers in front of you slow and stop briefly, >> forcing you to slow to a stop, which forces those following you to slow to > a >> stop and on and on (mass), then suddenly the traffic eases and the group of >> cars has space between as they accelerate, only to slow and stop again > (mass). >> It's a repeating sequence of mass and space.CCFrom: > Bob.Muller@Fluor.com >> Subject: Strange Boy >> >> Mike, thanks for that - what do you (or any of you) make of these lines: >> >> "He sees the cars as sets of waves, sequences of mass and space" >> >> ? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2013 18:00:17 -0800 From: kbhla@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: Blues That is what I guessed, Professor Blackburn! ;-) A 40s torch song with a jazzy touch! My second favorite song on Hejira and I think it has really held up over the years. Kakki On Sat, Nov 23, 2013, at 05:43 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Mike, > > Blue Motel Room actually contains little that one could call bbluesb > musically despite the lyrics bI got the blues inside and outside my > head.b Some people think of blues as a feeling, or an attitude, so in > that sense it may be blues, but it doesn't employ the scales or chords > that are usually called blues. Itbs more of a torch ballad in the vein of > My Funny Valentine or Body and Soul, to my ears at least, drawing from a > 40s sensibility. What is different about it is that it is clearly written > on guitar and not piano like most standard ballads were. The chord motion > is more the parallel shape movement that guitar is so good at than the > extended ii-V-I motion of most standards. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #461 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe