From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #431 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, November 3 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 431 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Skylar Grey [Bob Muller ] RE: JMDL Digest V2013 #1584 [Mary Morris ] Re: Katy becoming Joni [Paul Ivice ] Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1572 [Laurie Antonioli ] new perspective [Marc McCarron ] Re: Jazz Snobs [David Lahm ] Re: Skylar Grey [Michael Paz ] Re: Joni Covers, Volume 176 - Back In The Saddle [Sally ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 09:14:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Skylar Grey It's a fine version; she has released it officially, it's on our ever-expanding roster and thanks to Randy Remote it's in the collection. Bob NP: Ambrosia, "Nice, Nice, Very Nice" ________________________________ From: Michael Paz To: Jack Merkel Cc: JMDL Sent: Saturday, November 2, 2013 11:31 AM Subject: Re: Skylar Grey Hey Jack I saw that last week too and forgot to post about it. She did a nice version and I liked some of her other stuff. So much in fact I did not delete it from the recorder. Best Paz On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Jack Merkel wrote: Just saw Skylar Grey on Guitar Center, where she did a very nice version of All I Want on dulcimer. Hadn't really been aware of her before, but she looks like maybe someone to watch. Jack Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:36:42 -0700 From: Mary Morris Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2013 #1584 Babs, did you use to live in Milwaukee, WI ? GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel road, where the barb wire meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 14:31:03 -0400 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1584 > > > JMDL Digest Saturday, November 2 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1584 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1568--disco daze/days [BarbaRent7@aol.com] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 14:24:23 -0400 (EDT) > From: BarbaRent7@aol.com > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1568--disco daze/days > > Whoa, THAT brings me back! Besides listening to Joni all day I'd go out > every night no matter what shift I worked and would close down the local disco > dancing around in my polyester attire amid the aroma of amyl nitrate > called Poppers)...Thelma Houston, Donna Summers, Evelyn Champagne King, Rick > James and even Grace Jones...so great, all of them! I had the great chance of > meeting Grace after her 3-hr concert in Chicago when she invited us all to > follow her to the Vortex bar (where the infamous serial killer/cannibal > Geoffrey Dahmer later used to capture his meals and take them to WI) Grace > was very tall and so beautiful like all her fashion mag covers and so very > sweet to us all! She autographed my album covers before going back into her > limo. ["Push Up to the Bumper"] > > The 1970s were SO cool in so many ways and so many musical genres. > > I also recall the Mill in Niles as I lived in the Chicago suburbs too, back > then. > > Good mem'ries, thanks! > > Peace & Hugs, Babs > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1584 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 15:06:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Ivice Subject: Re: Katy becoming Joni I'm actually going to do something unheard of here. Point taken. You're absolutely right. Everyone can respond to it how they wish. Not unheard of, but certainly welcomed. Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:08:02 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1572 Yes! I went to hear McCoy when he was in town - excited that he was/is still playing. I will monitor my generalizations in the future!! Laurie On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 7:22 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Saturday, November 2 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1572 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Jazz Snobs [Victor < > waytobluemusic@gmail.com>] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 10:21:31 -0400 > From: Victor > Subject: Re: Jazz Snobs > > McCoy Tyner isn't gone. He was, in fact, the first big concert that > Coltrane went, appropriately enough. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:09 AM, David Lahm wrote: > > > > With one claim in Laurie's "jazz snobs" post, I could not disagree more: > > "the masters are all gone." Joe Lovano isn't gone; Ted Rosenthal isn't > > gone; Billy Hart isn't gone; Jon Faddis isn't gone; Mark Dresser isn't > > gone; Eddie Gomez isn't gone; Chick Corea isn't gone; Dave Liebman isn't > > gone. > > > > > > > > DAVID LAHM > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Laurie Antonioli > > wrote: > > > >> I haven't had time to follow all the recent posts about the "Kate Perry > >> incident" but, no one is snobbier than jazz musicians. It's been > >> interesting to me that many of them have "come clean" about how much > Joni > >> has touched them. And, many jazz singers have included Joni's songs on > >> their recordings. Tierney Sutton's latest is an example, though her > story > >> is that she didn't even get hip to Joni until about 13 years or so ago. > >> Some of us, like me, started with Joni and then went on to jazz. As you > >> know, I'm making a new record of Joni's music and I tell the story here: > >> > >> > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/songs-of-shadow-songs-of-light/x/1830694 > >> > >> And I'm not the least bit snobby about Joni's impact on me. Believe it > or > >> not, the "jazz police" have given me a couple tickets already! > >> > >> The biggest point, to me, is that music is not clearly one thing or the > >> other. At least in jazz, all the masters now are gone. Just a handful > >> left. And with that, the young jazz musicians are calling on all their > >> "childhood" influences - jazz singing is such a genre-bending affair > >> anymore that it's hard to even know how to classify the new crop of > "jazz > >> singers." I deal with this all the time as I run the Vocal Program at > a > >> jazz institution. > >> > >> Back to Joni - her music lends itself to jazz, as she was deeply > influenced > >> by jazz music, but, it also transcends and crosses over to people who > like > >> pop, folk, rock, country and so on. Her music, depending on "who" is > doing > >> it can live in any of these environments and THAT is what makes it like > >> Ellington or Cole Porter. Her songs are like the "Great American > Songbook" > >> or "Standards" which were written in the 1930's and 40's. From 1960's > on > >> up, Joni carved out a niche that works in many settings and because of > >> that, will live on as some of the most important popular music ever > >> written. > >> > >> Laurie Antonioli > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1572 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 15:16:34 -0400 From: Marc McCarron Subject: new perspective I've been a Joni fan for 35years just listened to a recent interview with her I think she was spot on regarding tributes not exactly what people on this site want to hear. Two female artists come to mind as relevant in 2013, M.I.A. will be coming out with a new album in December and Lissie just put out her new album a few days ago. (Her first was outstanding this one is good). Cat Empire's "Steal the Light" is by far the best album of 2013, a male group from Australia. There is great new music being created by musicians that are talented beyond belief and true to themselves. I think the best tribute we could give to Joni would be sharing among ourselves artists that are not imitators or tribute attention seekers, but artists who deserve buzz because they are creating music worth listening to. Getting caught up in Pop music bashing is demeaning to our intellects. If you love Joni's music (not just enamored with Blue and pre Don Juan's Reckless Daughter part of the catalogue) you have an intellect and ear that should live in the present as well as the past 500 years of multiple genres. Listen to KCRW on the web and stay open to today. Listening to new music is like panning for gold hard work for a few flecks worth keeping. but when you listen to an artist like M.I.A for the first time you understand why you put in the effort. Question because I don't know the answer. Has Joni ever given an opinion about Patti Smith? seems like she would acknowledge her existance at some point. Thanks, Marc Fall in love with Cool Jazz if you haven't already Jazz was never meant to be Smooth. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 10:09:02 -0400 From: David Lahm Subject: Re: Jazz Snobs With one claim in Laurie's "jazz snobs" post, I could not disagree more: "the masters are all gone." Joe Lovano isn't gone; Ted Rosenthal isn't gone; Billy Hart isn't gone; Jon Faddis isn't gone; Mark Dresser isn't gone; Eddie Gomez isn't gone; Chick Corea isn't gone; Dave Liebman isn't gone. DAVID LAHM On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:54 PM, Laurie Antonioli wrote: > I haven't had time to follow all the recent posts about the "Kate Perry > incident" but, no one is snobbier than jazz musicians. It's been > interesting to me that many of them have "come clean" about how much Joni > has touched them. And, many jazz singers have included Joni's songs on > their recordings. Tierney Sutton's latest is an example, though her story > is that she didn't even get hip to Joni until about 13 years or so ago. > Some of us, like me, started with Joni and then went on to jazz. As you > know, I'm making a new record of Joni's music and I tell the story here: > > http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/songs-of-shadow-songs-of-light/x/1830694 > > And I'm not the least bit snobby about Joni's impact on me. Believe it or > not, the "jazz police" have given me a couple tickets already! > > The biggest point, to me, is that music is not clearly one thing or the > other. At least in jazz, all the masters now are gone. Just a handful > left. And with that, the young jazz musicians are calling on all their > "childhood" influences - jazz singing is such a genre-bending affair > anymore that it's hard to even know how to classify the new crop of "jazz > singers." I deal with this all the time as I run the Vocal Program at a > jazz institution. > > Back to Joni - her music lends itself to jazz, as she was deeply influenced > by jazz music, but, it also transcends and crosses over to people who like > pop, folk, rock, country and so on. Her music, depending on "who" is doing > it can live in any of these environments and THAT is what makes it like > Ellington or Cole Porter. Her songs are like the "Great American Songbook" > or "Standards" which were written in the 1930's and 40's. From 1960's on > up, Joni carved out a niche that works in many settings and because of > that, will live on as some of the most important popular music ever > written. > > Laurie Antonioli ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 10:31:06 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Skylar Grey Hey Jack I saw that last week too and forgot to post about it. She did a nice version and I liked some of her other stuff. So much in fact I did not delete it from the recorder. Best Paz On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Jack Merkel wrote: Just saw Skylar Grey on Guitar Center, where she did a very nice version of All I Want on dulcimer. Hadn't really been aware of her before, but she looks like maybe someone to watch. Jack Sent from my iPad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2013 01:15:14 -0400 From: Sally Subject: Re: Joni Covers, Volume 176 - Back In The Saddle Bob? You caused me to spit my Corona across the room. I'm not exactly prone to spitting my Corona across the room. Bob? I'm still in the line that is following you! ;p Thanks for the covers and the hilarity. I'll be in touch tomorrow to see what you think I should be thinking! ;D Peace and Love for crap sake! Sally > On Nov 2, 2013, at 10:11 AM, Bob Muller wrote: > > No Katy covers yet, but I'm on the prowl. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #431 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe