From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #413 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, October 27 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 413 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- New Joni Mash Up due out on November 26th! [Merk54@aol.com] Re: joni tributes [Catherine McKay ] Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Latest Edition of NME's 500 Greatest Albums of All-Time List [Matthew Ton] Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday [Catherine McKay ] Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1430 [Dave Blackburn ] Re: joni tributes [Laurie Antonioli ] Re: Joni's sensuality [Shari Eaton ] RE: Stereogum finally features Joni in their Counting Down (albums from worst to best) column ["Susan E. McNama] Stereogum finally features Joni in their Counting Down (albums from worst to best) column [Matthew Tong ] Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1416 [Laurie Antonioli ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:24:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: New Joni Mash Up due out on November 26th! One year after the critical success of her infamous Star Wars mash up, Joni Mitchell has decided to take on another cultural icon, by reworking some of her most classic songs into a rock opera titled "Breaking Blue". Scheduled for release on November 26, the same day the final 8 episodes of Breaking Bad are released on DVD and Blu-ray, this potential magnum opus has commercial blockbuster written all over it! Backed by such long time collaborators as Skinny Pete Erskine, Herbie bYo Bitchb Hancock, and Wayne bKrazy-8b Shorter, this promises to be bTight, tight, tight!b Warning! Song titles might contain spoilers! The Hissing Of Sickly Lungs Trouble Child (The Ballad of Jesse Pinkman) Flynnbs Dadbs Pontiac Big Yellow Jumpsuit RV On A Hill Cold Blue Meth and Sweet Fire You Dream Dead Batteries Jesse And The Kingpin For The Noses / Tuco Snorts The Blues Medley Taming The Tuco The Badger That Lives In Albuquerque The Last Time I Saw Combo Song For Skyler The Saul Situation Banquet (Dinner at Los Pollos Hermanos) Just Like This Train / Raised on Robbery Medley (The Great Train Heist) The Methylamine Laundries Don Eladiobs Reckless Downfall Sex Cures (Hankbs Helpful Handjob) Face Lift (Ode to Gustavo Fring) The Sire of Sorrow (Jessebs Sad Song) Goodbye Pork Pie Hat (Felina b The Heisenberg Coda) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 05:33:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: joni tributes I wonder if our generation truly does have a different relationship with music. I can't remember my parents being obsessed with any particular artist and I know my kids have certain artists they love (my daughter is ridiculously obsessed with John Mayer and would kill me if she saw this email), but my son seems to love the indie stuff as well as the music of the boomer generation. Most of what I hear of Top 40 stuff just sounds like noise to me, but maybe that's what all the old people say. >________________________________ > From: Laurie Antonioli >To: Dave Blackburn >Cc: shadows and light ; JMDL ; Les Irvin >Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:48:58 PM >Subject: Re: joni tributes > > >Here's the press release that went out a couple days ago: > >http://www.prweb.com/releases/2013/10/prweb11249327.htm > >Just keeping with the "baby boomer" thing and how much we love the music of >our generation, it doesn't say this in the press release, but were it not >for Joni (and Neil Young) I would not have had a life in music. Those two >inspired me, and then the jazz thing kicked in when I was about 16 or 17, >but prior to that, I was in love with Neil and Joni and couldn't get >enough. I was obsessed with them. Revisiting Joni's music has been very >intense, actually, since I have been a hard core jazz musician for 35 >years. The music of Joni and Neil have been running underneath all that >jazz and when it resurfaced it was like an old friend you hadn't seen in a >long time -- and the conversation continued right where you left off. > >Laurie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 17:19:18 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday Yes! I would include the fests too since it's along the same lines as a tribute, plus the camaraderie that is generated in her name ... That's really the point ... To show how her music inspires ... Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 26, 2013, at 6:25 AM, "Cassy" wrote: > > Perhaps we could also include the fact that we hold Jonifests? > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Susan E. McNamara > Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:49 AM > To: joni@smoe.org > Subject: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday > > I just talked to Les and he said if I coordinated this he could help get it to > Joni. Here's my idea: > > I would love to send her a card with an insert that chronicles all the Joni > Tributes that have happened in the last year, and tell her how much her music > is appreciated by all ages, all over the world. I'm sure the website and JMDL > archives can give me a comprehensive list with some other research done on the > web. Plus we can add Bob's numbers on the Cover front. I guess I was > thinking about how amazed I am that lowly Ithaca is already planning their 5th > annual Joni Tribute and the enthusiasm has not waned one iota. I think she > needs to know this as she enters her twilight years - that she is not by any > stretch of the imagination forgotten, and her music is not only being played > by listeners but played actually by musicians, too. I'm sure she has an idea > that this is true, but wouldn't it be cool to have it in one place where she > can actually hold it and look at it? > > What do you think? I'm open to other ideas too but we should probably get a > move on ... November 7 is exactly 13 days away ... not including today!!!! > :) > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 20:59:58 -0700 From: Matthew Tong Subject: Latest Edition of NME's 500 Greatest Albums of All-Time List http://www.nme.com/news/the-smiths/73363 I don't think this has been mentioned yet? It came out on Tuesday. I'm obsessed with lists, and with any list, I like (and dislike) many things about this one. Only Blue and The Hissing of Summer Lawns made it. Blue is sixty two spots too low, but whatever. If you don't feel like scrolling through all of the picks, you can read the full list here. http://consequenceofsound.net/2013/10/the-top-500-albums-of-all-time-according-to-nme/ Matt ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:33:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday Yes! You're right! She can just chat away and the computer will convert it to type. >________________________________ > From: shadows and light >To: Catherine McKay >Cc: Michael Paz ; Susan E. McNamara ; "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 6:17:44 PM >Subject: Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday > > >didn't she say she had one now and is working on her memoirs using >dragonspeak? perhaps she needs one for each house...hahaha ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 12:46:44 -0700 From: shadows and light Subject: Re: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday like On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Susan E. McNamara wrote: > I just talked to Les and he said if I coordinated this he could help get > it to > Joni. Here's my idea: > > I would love to send her a card with an insert that chronicles all the Joni > Tributes that have happened in the last year, and tell her how much her > music > is appreciated by all ages, all over the world. I'm sure the website and > JMDL > archives can give me a comprehensive list with some other research done on > the > web. Plus we can add Bob's numbers on the Cover front. I guess I was > thinking about how amazed I am that lowly Ithaca is already planning their > 5th > annual Joni Tribute and the enthusiasm has not waned one iota. I think she > needs to know this as she enters her twilight years - that she is not by > any > stretch of the imagination forgotten, and her music is not only being > played > by listeners but played actually by musicians, too. I'm sure she has an > idea > that this is true, but wouldn't it be cool to have it in one place where > she > can actually hold it and look at it? > > What do you think? I'm open to other ideas too but we should probably get > a > move on ... November 7 is exactly 13 days away ... not including today!!!! > :) > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:27:10 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1430 Yes, I will do more research - by joining this group I'm being made aware of many more people that have been on the "Joni train" and it's very exciting. Her music, to me, is as important as Duke Ellington or Stravinsky. Laurie On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Laurie, your baby boomer point makes good sense. There are "tribute" shows > and albums coming thick and fast to almost every major act from the 60s and > 70s. In San Diego alone we have The Steely Damned, a Beatles band that > performs entire albums with orchestra, a Pink Floyd band etc etc. We're a > supposedly affluent demographic with ongoing fondness for the music of our > youth, and it happens to be music that is reproduceable by a band. Once > music became so programmed in the 80s it became much harder to pull off > live. > > I don't agree with your timeline however. Herbie's Joni project was by no > means the first. Bob Muller could give you accurate info, but from within > the JMDL alone Big Yellow Taxi recorded three Joni covers CDs, David Lahm > has made jazz piano arrangements of her music and Mutts of the Planet have > been performing Joni music exclusively for the last 8 years. The TNT > tribute extravaganza to her was from 2000. > > > On Oct 25, 2013, at 12:22 PM, Laurie Antonioli > wrote: > > > One thing I've noticed re: Joni - I'm not sure it has to do with her > > turning 70, I think not, but, there has been a huge number of people > doing > > "Joni projects" in the last year or two (starting with Herbie Hancock's > > record...) - I am doing one and have had this in the works for a long > time, > > only to find that there are numerous others doing the same thing. I > think > > that it's a kind of new interest in her, much by the "baby boomer" > > generation. If it's a baby boomer musician, they, like me, have finally > > come around to acknowledging the important impact she has had on our > > musical lives. It's undeniable. She changed the world of music and > > musicians with her work. And now, there's a lot going on with regard to > > Joni. In the Bay Area, there was a beautiful production of "Blue" with a > > different artist doing one song each from the record. It was really > > incredible. My favorite was the Balkan Choir "Kitka" doing Blue - here's > > the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVqft_u3iYA > > one of the finest things I've ever heard. I had goosebumps throughout as > > I'm from the Balkan region and to hear these harmonies just brought me to > > my knees. > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 10:50 AM, JMDL Digest < > owner-joni-digest@smoe.org>wrote: > > > >> > >> JMDL Digest Friday, October 25 2013 Volume 2013 : Number > 1430 > >> > >> > >> > >> ========== > >> > >> TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > >> -------- > >> The bhootsb [Steve Dulson < > >> tinkersown@ca.rr.com>] > >> Joni's birthday ["Susan E. McNamara" < > >> sem8@cornell.edu>] > >> My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday ["Susan E. McNamara" > >> >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 11:11:27 -0400 > >> From: Steve Dulson > >> Subject: The bhootsb > >> > >> SueNac wrote: > >> > >>> he would sit in on b hootsb with Ian and Sylvia and Gordon Lightfoot > in > >> Toronto > >> > >> Sue, I would play bhootsb with you anytime, whatever the heck it is! :) > >> > >> *************************************************** > >> Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA > >> FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) > >> tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 13:45:53 +0000 > >> From: "Susan E. McNamara" > >> Subject: Joni's birthday > >> > >> Is the JMDL doing anything for Joni's birthday this year? A Card, or > >> something? Since it's a milestone year, I was just wondering. > >> > >> Susan Tierney McNamara > >> email: sem8@cornell.edu > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 17:49:18 +0000 > >> From: "Susan E. McNamara" > >> Subject: My idea for a gift to Joni on her 70th birthday > >> > >> I just talked to Les and he said if I coordinated this he could help get > >> it to > >> Joni. Here's my idea: > >> > >> I would love to send her a card with an insert that chronicles all the > Joni > >> Tributes that have happened in the last year, and tell her how much her > >> music > >> is appreciated by all ages, all over the world. I'm sure the website > and > >> JMDL > >> archives can give me a comprehensive list with some other research done > on > >> the > >> web. Plus we can add Bob's numbers on the Cover front. I guess I was > >> thinking about how amazed I am that lowly Ithaca is already planning > their > >> 5th > >> annual Joni Tribute and the enthusiasm has not waned one iota. I think > she > >> needs to know this as she enters her twilight years - that she is not by > >> any > >> stretch of the imagination forgotten, and her music is not only being > >> played > >> by listeners but played actually by musicians, too. I'm sure she has an > >> idea > >> that this is true, but wouldn't it be cool to have it in one place where > >> she > >> can actually hold it and look at it? > >> > >> What do you think? I'm open to other ideas too but we should probably > get > >> a > >> move on ... November 7 is exactly 13 days away ... not including > today!!!! > >> :) > >> > >> > >> Susan Tierney McNamara > >> email: sem8@cornell.edu > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1430 > >> ****************************** > >> > >> ------- > >> To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > >> Unsubscribe by clicking here: > >> mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > >> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 14:14:25 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1430 Yes, absolutely agreed. I think she'll ultimately be remembered as a composer first and foremost, and will be one of the few whose work will resonate for many future generations. Now that she doesn't tour or record it's up to others to keep her music live in front of audiences and to keep the interpretations fresh, just as people do with the jazz canon. I squirm a little when the term "tribute band" is mentioned, as it has connotations of wigs and impersonators. Do classical musicians get called "a tribute act" when they perform a program of Mozart, or jazz musicians a program of Porter or Gershwin? Joni's body of work is as important as any composer one can mention and I'm sure will inspire performers for decades, maybe even centuries, to come. If you'd like to check out our Joni album it's at https://www.cdbaby.com/cd/adlermuttsplanet Dave On Oct 25, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Laurie Antonioli wrote: > Yes, I will do more research - by joining this group I'm being made aware > of many more people that have been on the "Joni train" and it's very > exciting. Her music, to me, is as important as Duke Ellington or > Stravinsky. > > Laurie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Oct 2013 15:05:46 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: joni tributes My album is not using the word "tribute" for the reasons you just said. It's "Songs of Shadow, Songs of Light - The Music of Joni Mitchell" "Tribute" *does* bring to mind something corny. My band is the "American Dreams Band" and we do mostly original type music, or highly rearranged standards. Doing this Joni album is a first for us taking on one composer. Doubt we'll ever do a "one composer" CD after this, but, it's so compelling to do all her music, it evolved and became something we had to do. It was an organic process. I do not, however, consider myself unique in coming up with this idea. Just bought your beautiful record, Dave! Laurie On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 2:48 PM, shadows and light wrote: > dave said: "Yes, absolutely agreed. I think she'll ultimately be > remembered as a composer first and foremost, and will be one of the few > whose work will resonate for many future generations." > > does tribute band only apply to the living?? tribute to Caesar? > > i agree that her compositions will stand the test of time. but i believe > her lyrics will hold their own too. vivid snapshots, social history, much > like dickens' work they reveal the social mores of these changing times. > > and i think dave's perception of the the timeline is correct. i remember > the first time i heard david lahm on kjazz. i pulled my car over on pchand just listened > > that said, les how can we access the jmdl archives these days? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:43:54 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: Joni's sensuality I never noticed that before! Is it verifiably her? Looks like it could be a greek statuette or something. On Oct 24, 2013, at 3:59 PM, jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com wrote: > I hope ya'll appreciate how much time it took to trim my quote on the smartphone. > > Anyway, by my count, she was nude in two albums. Everyone remembers the seaside, backside shot on the inside of "For The Roses" but everyone forgets the full, frontal nudity in black and white, smack dab on the cover of Don Juan's Reckless Daughter. How could you miss it? It is even in front of a kid, for crying out loud. > > Jim > >> She was also mentioned in an article, along with a number of other singers, >> as an example of dressing modestly. Interesting, since she did appear nude >> in one album and in a bikini in another. It is all about context. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 14:01:09 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Stereogum finally features Joni in their Counting Down (albums from worst to best) column This was a great, well-written review of Joni's work. Although I don't agree with some of his reviews or rankings, I can say that this author knows his stuff. My biggest complaint is his hatred of Turbulent Indigo! DISAGREE!! In my opinion, Turbulent Indigo is a master work of Joni's late career guitar and songwriting style. I do agree also that For The Roses is a masterful album that did get lost in the shuffle between Blue and Court and Spark. I don't have time to go through how I would rank the albums but I would say my top five from better to best is Hissing, TI, Court&spark, Blue and Hejira. And of course I do agree with this sentiment: If there's ever been an album that demanded to be heard as a complete work of art on its own terms, it is Hejira; not a day goes by that I'm not glad it exists. AMEN. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Matthew Tong Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 1:49 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Stereogum finally features Joni in their Counting Down (albums from worst to best) column http://www.stereogum.com/1482732/joni-mitchell-albums-from-worst-to-best/list/ I have just rejoined the JMDL after being a long time lurker in the 2000s, so I don't know if this has been talked about already. Blue should have easily been #1, but that's just my opinion. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 10:48:34 -0700 From: Matthew Tong Subject: Stereogum finally features Joni in their Counting Down (albums from worst to best) column http://www.stereogum.com/1482732/joni-mitchell-albums-from-worst-to-best/list/ I have just rejoined the JMDL after being a long time lurker in the 2000s, so I don't know if this has been talked about already. Blue should have easily been #1, but that's just my opinion. Matt ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:51:33 -0700 From: Betsy Blue Subject: Joni references I think Katy Perry's comment is part of pushing Joni back into the public consciousness. Along with Taylor Swift, of course. Yesterday I heard Joni's name on xm radio as the single example of a concert the speaker would see for the singing, rather than the spectacle. Brittany Spears was the main subject. She was also mentioned in an article, along with a number of other singers, as an example of dressing modestly. Interesting, since she did appear nude in one album and in a bikini in another. It is all about context. http://www.slate.com/articles/life/doonan/2013/10/miley_cyrus_scanty_outfits_porn_inspired_pop_divas_should_wear_more_clothes.html I don't watch Parenthood, so I missed that reference. Looking forward to "River" season! Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 10:04:17 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1416 I was watching "Alias" last night, and one of the characters had ear buds in and was crying. She looked at her colleague and said "I'm listening to Joni Mitchell" - and she made her CIA colleague promise not to tell anyone! : ) On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 9:52 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Thursday, October 24 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1416 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Joni references [Betsy Blue < > betsyblue82@gmail.com>] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:51:33 -0700 > From: Betsy Blue > Subject: Joni references > > I think Katy Perry's comment is part of pushing Joni back into the public > consciousness. Along with Taylor Swift, of course. > > Yesterday I heard Joni's name on xm radio as the single example of a > concert the speaker would see for the singing, rather than the spectacle. > Brittany Spears was the main subject. > > She was also mentioned in an article, along with a number of other singers, > as an example of dressing modestly. Interesting, since she did appear nude > in one album and in a bikini in another. It is all about context. > > > http://www.slate.com/articles/life/doonan/2013/10/miley_cyrus_scanty_outfits_porn_inspired_pop_divas_should_wear_more_clothes.html > > I don't watch Parenthood, so I missed that reference. Looking forward to > "River" season! > > Betsy > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1416 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #413 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe