From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #350 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, September 14 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 350 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) [Shari Eaton ] Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1309 [Laurie Antonioli ] Re: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) [Catherine McKay ] Re: 50th Anniversary [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] RE: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Unrecorded songs [Steve Dulson ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:24:15 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) Hi Anne! Jeremy is on the (very) short list of these that I've not heard - she did release the sheet music in the songbook as you know. Wish someone had gone into the studio with it. I'm not counting Pearl Jam's song as a cover. Carnival in Kenora is one that has been done a couple times; BYT did it on their 2nd CD (also now out of print), our own Gary Zack recorded it, and the most interesting one to me is a recording by a Buffalo, NY lounge band called The Difference, who recorded it in 1968 - somehow they had gotten a demo of Joni's recording and used that to craft their own loungy version which I positively adore. This is one that I hear and understand why Joni didn't release; the lyrics are somewhat juvenile and obtuse (not too many are going to know where Kenora is), but the melody is GORGEOUS and well-worth hearing for that component alone. http://jonimitchell.com/music/song.cfm?id=245 Bob From: Anne Sandstrom To: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" , Catherine McKay , Cc: Joni List , Shari Eaton Date: 09/13/2013 11:05 AM Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) Oooh! Really? I must have been sleeping when this happened. Count me in line for the Treasures :-) I can remember trying desperately to figure out what songs like Jeremy and Carnival in Kenora actually sounded like. My music reading skills were negligible (still not great, but oh well...) and I picked the melodies out note by note. Of course, they made no sense because I couldn't get the whole thing in my head. Looking forward to enjoying a fresh take on these songs. 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She just pushed herself, broke through the sound barrier and then kept going. Her confidence as an artist is what gets me so starry eyed. Shari On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:14 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > This is a great live performance of Melody In Your Name where Joni breaks > a string at the beginning! Unfortunately the song is cut off before the > ending. > > > Oh, I'm intimately familiar with THAT one...for the longest time it was > the ONLY recording of that one I had. > > "Oh, it's tuned too low....(tune, tune, tune...SNAP!) Oh, it must have > been tuned too high!" > > I'm very envious of those of you who saw her in the 60's. > > Bob > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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Barthel FPEG RFS FORMULATION Formulation Technician 585-477-7110 x77110 From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org (JMDL Digest) To: joni-digest@smoe.org Date: 09/13/2013 05:04 PM Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1307 Sent by: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org JMDL Digest Friday, September 13 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1307 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Second Fret Sets [Jonathan Edward Lowe ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 22:44:42 +0200 From: Jonathan Edward Lowe Subject: Second Fret Sets Re. this discussion about rare tracks, I (like most I imagine) have the tracks from the first CD of this collection, but not those from the second CD- does anyone have that? Thanks, Jonathan - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1307 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:34:53 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1292 I thought I might chime in here on the topic of Joni's unreleased music. It's unreleased for a reason. She made that decision, I'm pretty sure, and no one is more curious than I of any and all of her body of work. In fact, I'd LOVE to hear what she threw out - it's fascinating and revealing. With that said, if someone went into my vault of unreleased material, which there is quite a lot, and released it without my permission or after I died, I'd be quite upset. It's like when you put an outfit on in the morning and it doesn't look so good, so you take it off and put on something that looks better. You didn't want people to see you in that first outfit and it's a personal decision. Artists perform material to see if it "works" and in Joni's case, some of this was caught on tape. She is so famous she couldn't hide away and try out her songs without this happening. Mind you, I'm not lecturing here, rather, I respect her decisions. I just listened to "Mr. Blue" and can see why it didn't show up on her records. I say this with all the respect in the world. She is my idol, for sure. When we go into the studio to record, there's always two or three songs that go into the "rotating file" - - ones that don't make it to the record. This could be for performance reasons, or they don't work with the other songs or simply, you realize, they are just not at the same level as the other tunes. Anyway. With all that said, I would be fascinated to hear all of her songs, but only if she presented it to us with her blessing. Has anyone approached her about this? Maybe I missed this in all the posts this morning. Laurie On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 8:22 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Friday, September 13 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1292 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) [Catherine McKay > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:20:00 -0700 (PDT) > From: Catherine McKay > Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) > > I doubt Dylan needs the money either. I often wonder whether Joni realizes > how much she is still loved, although the recent Massey Hall tribute (among > many others things) would have been testament to that. > > > > > - ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" > > To: Catherine McKay > > Cc: Joni List ; Shari Eaton > > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:43:06 AM > > Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) > > > > And it's especially crazy in view of the fact that nearly ALL of her > peers > > have issued detailed box sets with demos, alternate takes, unreleased > > songs, etc. Bob Dylan is practically making a second career out of his > > "Bootleg Series", and the latest one (from the Self Portrait period) > > is > > crazy good and fun. > > > > I know, you know, we all know that Joni doesn't need it for the money. If > > nothing else, do it for the fans who have stood by you for 30-45 years. > > Who knows what else is out there from the 70's, 80's, 90's? > > > > I am very proud of the fact that I inspired and assisted Big Yellow > Taxi's > > production and release of "Treasures of Joni Mitchell" which took 12 > > of > > these songs and recreated them with fresh arrangements and wonderful > > production and released them. Sadly now out of print; however I will be > > including these tracks in future Covers Volumes so stay tuned and pay > > attention if this is something you're interested in. > > > > Bob > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1292 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:53:06 -0700 From: Laurie Antonioli Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1309 I haven't checked the publishing on these songs. Since I'm getting ready to record an album of her songs it WOULD be lovely to include something of hers that has not been released. If she put it in her publishing company, then it's available for anyone to use (all my original material, for instance, is there for the taking if someone wants it and I get paid and do get paid for versions other people record.) So, the thing to do is see if she bothered to properly put these in her publishing house. If so, then she at least has validated the songs and they can be recorded by other artists. I'll check out some of the things on YouTube. In the meantime, I thought I'd give you a taste of one song we did at our very first "Joni" concert. "Marcie" - with a jazz flavor. It's "live" and is not intended for "release" per se, but we will be putting this one on the record. It was our first "spin" doing this song and I just love the lyrics and provocative story. Matt Clark, the pianist in my band, did the arrangement. It's not "perfect" but, I'm willing to share, nonetheless....... Laurie On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:54 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Friday, September 13 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1309 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Boxed Set [David Marine < > davidmarine@mindspring.com>] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:53:34 -0400 > From: David Marine > Subject: Re: Boxed Set > > Hey List, > > Of course there have been variations of this thread for many years now. I > do think that a lot of the earlier material simply isn't really up to par, > but as Bob pointed out there are gems such as "Just Like Me" which > certainly should be released. > > I'd be more interested in material like that which we have on THOSL demos. > Joni's discussed her desire to release some of the alternative Mingus > tracks. And I know there are a number of unreleased alternative Hejira > takes in a vault somewhere. > > My take on it is that she's just too busy. She's building a new house in > B.C., working on the new ballet, working on her memoirs, and enjoying her > life. She's also described the process of reviewing her work for the Hits & > Misses project as being less than entirely pleasant. And she's re-mined her > catalogue many times after that, with Dreamland, TBOS, Travelogue, SOAPG, > and the two ballets. I just get the sense that she doesn't care to yet > again turn her focus to the past. > > Maybe if she had someone working with her whom she really trusted she > could curate a quality boxed set. Perhaps Les and Simon could spend a few > weeks with her up in Canada when the B.C. house is completed, and knock > something out... > > David > > > On Sep 13, 2013, at 2:35 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > > > > JMDL Digest Friday, September 13 2013 Volume 2013 : Number > 1301 > > > > > > > > ========== > > > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > > -------- > > Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1292 [Laurie Antonioli < > laurieantonioli@gmail.com>] > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:34:53 -0700 > > From: Laurie Antonioli > > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1292 > > > > I thought I might chime in here on the topic of Joni's unreleased music. > > It's unreleased for a reason. She made that decision, I'm pretty sure, > and > > no one is more curious than I of any and all of her body of work. In > fact, > > I'd LOVE to hear what she threw out - it's fascinating and revealing. > > > > With that said, if someone went into my vault of unreleased material, > which > > there is quite a lot, and released it without my permission or after I > > died, I'd be quite upset. It's like when you put an outfit on in the > > morning and it doesn't look so good, so you take it off and put on > > something that looks better. You didn't want people to see you in that > > first outfit and it's a personal decision. > > > > Artists perform material to see if it "works" and in Joni's case, some of > > this was caught on tape. She is so famous she couldn't hide away and try > > out her songs without this happening. Mind you, I'm not lecturing here, > > rather, I respect her decisions. I just listened to "Mr. Blue" and can > see > > why it didn't show up on her records. I say this with all the respect in > > the world. She is my idol, for sure. When we go into the studio to > > record, there's always two or three songs that go into the "rotating > file" > > - - ones that don't make it to the record. This could be for performance > > reasons, or they don't work with the other songs or simply, you realize, > > they are just not at the same level as the other tunes. > > > > Anyway. With all that said, I would be fascinated to hear all of her > > songs, but only if she presented it to us with her blessing. Has anyone > > approached her about this? Maybe I missed this in all the posts this > > morning. > > > > Laurie > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1309 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Marcie - Live - for Joni fans.m4a] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 09:52:47 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) Hi Shari - ain't that neat! Just in case you aren't aware, there is a meticulous list of these unreleased songs on the website: http://jonimitchell.com/music/album.cfm?id=1 Most of these are probably out on YouTube, so happy hunting. This has always been an area of fascination for me. Early on, when the only method of hearing these were the Tape Trees, I remember getting my first tapes (thanks again Mr. Gross) and hearing "Brandy Eyes" for the first time. I never even knew these songs EXISTED, let alone that they could be heard. Since then, I have knocked out a BUNCH of them and am still amazed that: a) Joni discarded so many WONDERFUL songs; b) Officially, these still remain in the vault and unheard by so many that would PAY to have them. I share your excitement and thanks for bringing back some wonderful memories. Bob From: Shari Eaton To: Joni List , Date: 09/13/2013 01:59 AM Subject: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Check out this video on YouTube: http://youtu.be/K2cRcvLZW2U Unbelievable! A song I'd never heard before. Lots of Joni, Shari - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 08:20:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) I doubt Dylan needs the money either. I often wonder whether Joni realizes how much she is still loved, although the recent Massey Hall tribute (among many others things) would have been testament to that. - ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" > To: Catherine McKay > Cc: Joni List ; Shari Eaton > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:43:06 AM > Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) > > And it's especially crazy in view of the fact that nearly ALL of her peers > have issued detailed box sets with demos, alternate takes, unreleased > songs, etc. Bob Dylan is practically making a second career out of his > "Bootleg Series", and the latest one (from the Self Portrait period) > is > crazy good and fun. > > I know, you know, we all know that Joni doesn't need it for the money. If > nothing else, do it for the fans who have stood by you for 30-45 years. > Who knows what else is out there from the 70's, 80's, 90's? > > I am very proud of the fact that I inspired and assisted Big Yellow Taxi's > production and release of "Treasures of Joni Mitchell" which took 12 > of > these songs and recreated them with fresh arrangements and wonderful > production and released them. Sadly now out of print; however I will be > including these tracks in future Covers Volumes so stay tuned and pay > attention if this is something you're interested in. > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 13:46:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1292 - ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" > To: Laurie Antonioli > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 3:15:27 PM > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1292 > > if someone went into my vault of unreleased material, which > there is quite a lot, and released it without my permission or after I > died, I'd be quite upset.> > > No - you wouldn't be upset, you'd be dead. > She could come back as a ghost and haunt your ass! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 14:15:07 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: 50th Anniversary Great article. Lots of new information for me and really paints a picture of the time. Thanks to you and to the vivacious Ms. "Marilyn" Moon for her transcription work. Bob From: Les Irvin To: Joni List , Date: 09/13/2013 12:37 PM Subject: 50th Anniversary Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Today is the 50th Anniversary of Joni's first resident music gig. John Uren hired her to play for the opening night of the Depression in Calgary on September 13, 1963. She spent the next few months as a regular performer there. Here's JoniMitchell.com's exclusive interview with John from 2005: http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1336 - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:00:18 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) There are three songs in the same tuning that are at the guitar site: Carnival in Kenora, Songs To Aging Children, and Melody In Your Name - search X75754 under generic tuning http://jonimitchell.com/music/searchtranscriptions.cfm?from=guitar This is a great live performance of Melody In Your Name where Joni breaks a string at the beginning! Unfortunately the song is cut off before the ending. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er0DdKYZgA8 Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 11:19 AM To: Anne Sandstrom; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Cc: Joni List; Shari Eaton Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) Anne, I did the same when I got the "Music of Joni Mitchell" (pictured here: http://jonimitchell.com/library/viewmedia.cfm?id=54&from=search - out of print, but you can still find used copies). It was quite a revelation when I finally heard Joni singing them many years later, thanks to this group. - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Anne Sandstrom > To: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" ; Catherine McKay > > Cc: Joni List ; Shari Eaton > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 11:04:06 AM > Subject: RE: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) > > Oooh! Really? I must have been sleeping when this happened. Count me > in line for the Treasures :-) > > I can remember trying desperately to figure out what songs like Jeremy > and Carnival in Kenora actually sounded like. My music reading skills > were negligible (still not great, but oh well...) and I picked the > melodies out note by note. Of course, they made no sense because I > couldn't get the whole thing in my head. Looking forward to enjoying a fresh take on these songs. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 07:12:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni Mitchell - Mr. Blue (Live Fret Set) Amen to that, to the being amazed at finally getting to hear songs you had never heard before, to so many great songs being discarded and to the hell yeah, I'd buy them! I wonder whether any of Joni's friends, or her music reps read this list and I really hope they do. I also realize that maybe the relatively few of us on this list clamouring for this stuff wouldn't necessarily make it happen because even if all the people who sub to this list, discounting duplicates, even if we all bought it, I guess that wouldn't be enough to make it economically viable. On the other hand, there's the Harry Nilsson box set that recently came out that is a bargain and fantastic and (I hope) selling very well and so many people (especially young ones) have no idea who he is. It contains all of his albums along with some previously unreleased material, some of which is amazing and some of which isn't particularly great on its own, but shows a singer-songwriter going through the creative process (and his weird sense of humour.) So, despite the relative few of US that there are, there are most definitely a lot of Joni fans out there (judging by the number of fan sites on Facebook alone), so I think it would be a hit. Not everyone listens to Miley Cyrus and I count myself as one of the lucky few who hasn't heard that Robin Thicke song and I plan to keep it that way. (I noticed the other day on yahoo "news" that there's a Miley Cyrus blocker app that would hide any reference to her on your internet browser. If they could expand that to include anyone the user doesn't want to hear about, I'd go for it!) - ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" > Early on, when the only method of hearing these were the Tape Trees, I > remember getting my first tapes (thanks again Mr. Gross) and hearing > "Brandy Eyes" for the first time. I never even knew these songs > EXISTED, > let alone that they could be heard. Since then, I have knocked out a BUNCH > of them and am still amazed that: > > a) Joni discarded so many WONDERFUL songs; > b) Officially, these still remain in the vault and unheard by so many that > would PAY to have them. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 15:15:27 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1292 if someone went into my vault of unreleased material, which there is quite a lot, and released it without my permission or after I died, I'd be quite upset.> No - you wouldn't be upset, you'd be dead. All kidding aside, I appreciate your input to the discussion as an artist and as a songwriter. Having heard so many of these songs, as well as the songs she DID record, I agree with what you're saying somewhat. I think a bigger factor is that there's a greater attraction to the newer songs she had written versus the older ones she had been performing for a longer time. There was a freshness. To further your clothing analogy, when you buy a NEW outfit and get invited to a party, you're more inclined to wear the newer outfit over an older one, even if you look better in the older one. There's a sense of newness to wearing new clothes (this from a guy who updates his wardrobe less often than America updates Presidents). "Blue On Blue" is breath-takingly beautiful. "Just Like Me" could have been her biggest hit. What's remarkable is that with the exception of "Hunter" (which was very similar to "This Flight Tonight") there's not a lot of these melodies that trickled into other songs, at least not that I can hear. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 17:53:34 -0400 From: David Marine Subject: Re: Boxed Set Hey List, Of course there have been variations of this thread for many years now. I do think that a lot of the earlier material simply isn't really up to par, but as Bob pointed out there are gems such as "Just Like Me" which certainly should be released. I'd be more interested in material like that which we have on THOSL demos. Joni's discussed her desire to release some of the alternative Mingus tracks. And I know there are a number of unreleased alternative Hejira takes in a vault somewhere. My take on it is that she's just too busy. She's building a new house in B.C., working on the new ballet, working on her memoirs, and enjoying her life. She's also described the process of reviewing her work for the Hits & Misses project as being less than entirely pleasant. And she's re-mined her catalogue many times after that, with Dreamland, TBOS, Travelogue, SOAPG, and the two ballets. I just get the sense that she doesn't care to yet again turn her focus to the past. Maybe if she had someone working with her whom she really trusted she could curate a quality boxed set. Perhaps Les and Simon could spend a few weeks with her up in Canada when the B.C. house is completed, and knock something out... David On Sep 13, 2013, at 2:35 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Friday, September 13 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1301 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1292 [Laurie Antonioli ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 11:34:53 -0700 > From: Laurie Antonioli > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1292 > > I thought I might chime in here on the topic of Joni's unreleased music. > It's unreleased for a reason. She made that decision, I'm pretty sure, and > no one is more curious than I of any and all of her body of work. In fact, > I'd LOVE to hear what she threw out - it's fascinating and revealing. > > With that said, if someone went into my vault of unreleased material, which > there is quite a lot, and released it without my permission or after I > died, I'd be quite upset. It's like when you put an outfit on in the > morning and it doesn't look so good, so you take it off and put on > something that looks better. You didn't want people to see you in that > first outfit and it's a personal decision. > > Artists perform material to see if it "works" and in Joni's case, some of > this was caught on tape. She is so famous she couldn't hide away and try > out her songs without this happening. Mind you, I'm not lecturing here, > rather, I respect her decisions. I just listened to "Mr. Blue" and can see > why it didn't show up on her records. I say this with all the respect in > the world. She is my idol, for sure. When we go into the studio to > record, there's always two or three songs that go into the "rotating file" > - - ones that don't make it to the record. This could be for performance > reasons, or they don't work with the other songs or simply, you realize, > they are just not at the same level as the other tunes. > > Anyway. With all that said, I would be fascinated to hear all of her > songs, but only if she presented it to us with her blessing. Has anyone > approached her about this? Maybe I missed this in all the posts this > morning. > > Laurie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 20:18:05 -0400 From: Steve Dulson Subject: Unrecorded songs > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2013 16:53:06 -0700 > From: Laurie Antonioli > Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1309 > > I haven't checked the publishing on these songs. Since I'm getting ready > to record an album of her songs it WOULD be lovely to include something of > hers that has not been released. If she put it in her publishing company, > then it's available for anyone to use I just did a quick check at the Harry Fox agency. The two songs I checked: What's the Story, Mr Blue? and Just Like Me are both listed, so I'm sure the others are available to cover also. Several of these songs are in her early songbooks, too. Joni was very savvy about copyrights and publishing. *************************************************** Steve Dulson Costa Mesa CA FAR-West (Folk Alliance Region - West) tinkersown@ca.rr.com www.far-west.org ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #350 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe