From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #303 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, August 2 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 303 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1125 [Clint Norwood ] Re: On a Personal Note [Catherine McKay ] Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1116 [BarbaRent7@aol.com] Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1109 [BarbaRent7@aol.com] Re: Ofey [Michael Paz ] On a Personal Note ["Cassy" ] SIQUOMB not SIQIOMB [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Ofey [Betsy Blue ] Reprise Music Show - Wells Fargo Theater, Pt.2 [simon@icu.com] RE: Reprise Music Show - Wells Fargo Theater, Pt.1 ["Susan E. McNamara" <] Re: Ofey [Clint Norwood ] Re: Joni musings [Catherine McKay ] New Library item: Cranky Joni Mitchell a reminder of Winnipeg shortcoming [TheStaff@JoniMitchell.c] Re: Ofey [Clint Norwood ] RE: JMDL Digest V2013 #1125 ["Stebbing, David E." ] Changing the words [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] Re: Cambridge Folk Festival [Ange T ] Re: Saskatoon kerfuffle [Gerald Kent ] Now all this crap [Victor Johnson ] Re: siquomb [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Reprise Music Show - Wells Fargo Theater, Pt.2 [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.co] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:38:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Clint Norwood Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1125 Yes I think that this one is probably the best. And I agree that Joni did really well using this word as I have heard from other friends that the "genteel" aspect means something like white people don't get it. In that sense Joni did well and it gives a little peek into the idea that Joni may have been really aware in the time she was in Furry's house that she had a lot to learn. Even though she had been poor (after her boyfriend left her?) she didn't get what real poverty and no prospects meant. - -Clint ________________________________ From: "Stebbing, David E." To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 12:32 PM Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2013 #1125 Well, just to put too fine a point on it, Webster's Collegiate Dictionary has this: ofay n [origin unknown] (1925) usu disparaging : a white person And the Concise Oxford English Dictionary has this: ofay n. US informal (among black people) a derogatory term for a white person - -- ORIGIN 1920s: from au fait, in the sense "genteel". - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 12:55 PM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1125 JMDL Digest Thursday, August 1 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1125 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: Ofey / ofay [Em ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:52:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Ofey / ofay I wonder if "ofay" (derogatory word for white person) is pig latin for "feo", which means ugly in Spanish. hmm... Em - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1125 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. 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I'm sending you warm thoughts of healing to Brad, in the hope he gets better soon and that both of you can get some relief. >________________________________ > From: Cassy >To: JMDL >Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 4:13:11 PM >Subject: On a Personal Note > > >For anyone who is interested, life took a turn for me recently. > >In the midst of my husband Bradbs stem-cell transplant he developed a fever >and was admitted to University of Washington Hospital here in Seattle. While >he was in the hospital my sister phoned to tell me my mother had been >diagnosed with an aggressive, advanced cancer and that I probably should plan >to come to see her bsooner rather than later.b > >Fortunately my in-laws were able to come and stay with Brad so I could fly off >to Michigan to see my mum. I arrived on Thursday the 18th of July, she died >on Friday July 19th. I was glad to have had the opportunity to say goodbye to >her and felt blessed that she didnbt suffer; from the day of diagnosis to >her death was 3 weeks, much more quickly than any of us could have imagined. > >I am certain I will feel sad for a long time to come but must return to the >battle at hand b fighting by my husbandbs side against his cancer. > >The medical professionals have told us that the stem-cell transplant may have >added as much as two years to Bradbs life, we are hoping they are wrong and >that it will add much more than that. > >Unfortunately, while all of these life-altering experiences were happening >Joni was lauded in Ontario and I was unable to keep up with all the hoopla. I >will endeavor to catch up in the weeks to come and perhaps post some thoughts >as I do. I appreciate the efforts put forth by Catherine McKay to update us >all as events transpired, she is truly one of the Joni-angels. > >warmly, >Cassy > >Peace sells but who's buying? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:40:23 -0400 (EDT) From: BarbaRent7@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1116 To Clint, yes but I'd much rather have a nice Black family move next door than lowlife white folks who smoke crack and ride around in noisey ORVs and such. My neighbors here are from Berut, Lebanon and I love them dearly. The guy wants to sell it and I asked him if he could sell it to his friends or family from Beirut... Salaam, La Paz Contigo, Babs of the desert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:47:08 -0400 (EDT) From: BarbaRent7@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1109 Hi Anita, I'm glad your owls are close and hope they have a new tree to hang out in there! Babs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 01:48:42 +0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Ofey right after the riots in 67' Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com On Aug 2, 2013, at 1:37 AM, Betsy Blue wrote: I don't know if a double entendre with "ofey" was meant but it is clever to think so. -Dave I believe it was intended because she probably knew the meaning of ofey. She's fascinated with language and black culture. She "picks the colored language off the farms and the streets" (possibly also a double entendre). "They've got all the latest words...." And she and Chuck lived in a black Detroit neighborhood around 1966. Weren't racial tensions high? Is it possible nobody called her that? Now, can anyone explain why the words to For Free were changed? "A black limousine and two white men." Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:13:11 -0700 From: "Cassy" Subject: On a Personal Note For anyone who is interested, life took a turn for me recently. In the midst of my husband Bradbs stem-cell transplant he developed a fever and was admitted to University of Washington Hospital here in Seattle. While he was in the hospital my sister phoned to tell me my mother had been diagnosed with an aggressive, advanced cancer and that I probably should plan to come to see her bsooner rather than later.b Fortunately my in-laws were able to come and stay with Brad so I could fly off to Michigan to see my mum. I arrived on Thursday the 18th of July, she died on Friday July 19th. I was glad to have had the opportunity to say goodbye to her and felt blessed that she didnbt suffer; from the day of diagnosis to her death was 3 weeks, much more quickly than any of us could have imagined. I am certain I will feel sad for a long time to come but must return to the battle at hand b fighting by my husbandbs side against his cancer. The medical professionals have told us that the stem-cell transplant may have added as much as two years to Bradbs life, we are hoping they are wrong and that it will add much more than that. Unfortunately, while all of these life-altering experiences were happening Joni was lauded in Ontario and I was unable to keep up with all the hoopla. I will endeavor to catch up in the weeks to come and perhaps post some thoughts as I do. I appreciate the efforts put forth by Catherine McKay to update us all as events transpired, she is truly one of the Joni-angels. warmly, Cassy Peace sells but who's buying? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:19:03 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: SIQUOMB not SIQIOMB Thanks for the correction, Shari - I was just freestyling off the top of my head - obviously the word had to start with a U and not an I. Here's a chunk of the Gene Shay Interview: http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=610&from=search What you may want to do is go to the Library section of the website and type 'siquomb' into the search engine. You'll see quite a few hits and you might find a better one than the one I've linked to here. Happy Siquombing! Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:37:57 -0700 From: Betsy Blue Subject: Ofey I don't know if a double entendre with "ofey" was meant but it is clever to think so. -Dave I believe it was intended because she probably knew the meaning of ofey. She's fascinated with language and black culture. She "picks the colored language off the farms and the streets" (possibly also a double entendre). "They've got all the latest words...." And she and Chuck lived in a black Detroit neighborhood around 1966. Weren't racial tensions high? Is it possible nobody called her that? Now, can anyone explain why the words to For Free were changed? "A black limousine and two white men." Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:41:28 -0400 From: simon@icu.com Subject: Reprise Music Show - Wells Fargo Theater, Pt.2 On Jan. 26, 1995 the following Joni Mitchell concert was broadcast nationally. JONI MITCHELL  REPRISE MUSIC SHOW Wells Fargo Theater Autry Museum of Western Heritage Los Angeles, Ca. Jan. 26, 1995 01. Refuge Of The Road 02. Sex Kills 03. Moon At The Window 04. Night Ride Home 05. The Crazy Cries Of Love 06. Yvette In English 07. Cherokee Louise 08. Sunny Sunday 09. Hejira 10. Just Like This Train - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 11. Face Lift 12. Song For Sharon Originally scheduled as a 1-hr. Broadcast, the complete program actually ran 1-hr. 13-min. What IS interesting is Joni clearly thought she was off-the-air after JUST LIKE THIS TRAIN, until corrected. Certain FM stations actually broadcast a 1-hour version. Some left the satellite broadcast after 1-hr., others recorded the satellite feed and broadcast the program on Jan. 27th. I included this recording on TapeTree #6, available to JMDL members back in 1998. It was an Air-Check (Off-Air) recording from a broadcast by KCSA, FM-101.9, Glendale, CA. Shortly after the broadcast, Warner Bros. produced an 'In House' Promo CD. 100 Copies were produced from the Warner Bros. DAT Soundboard recording. These were not widely circulated, and were not available to the public. I rec'd several of these Promo CDs from different contacts at Warner/Reprise. Since it's a Direct Dub, from the Soundboard DAT recording, there's no FM compression. Many FM stations use extreme audio compression to keep the sound above the background noise for "distant" listeners, at the expense of degrading the sound quality. After the broadcast, I rec'd several Air-Check recordings from various collectors around the country. Each sounds different in one way or another. Of course some of this is due to collectors using different FM tuners, as well as each FM station using varying degrees of compression. It's really surprising how much compression some stations employ. - - - - - - In any event, the Promo CD is the clearest, cleanest, best sounding recording of this concert. Unfortunately the Promo CD did not include FACE LIFT and SONG FOR SHARON. It's the 1-hour version. The Promo CD also included opening and closing comments. Dave Blackburn was kind enough to do a little assembly-editing. FACE LIFT and SONG FOR SHARON were added to the Promo CD version. The DJ Opening Introduction and Closing Comments were also included. - - - - - - YouSendIt recently changed their name to Hightail. You can download The REPRISE MUSIC SHOW at the following URL: You'll be DownLoading an Archive.zip file titled "Reprise Music Show.zip" You'll find the Complete Concert as well as the SetList.pdf, and another pdf.file with a Promo AD and -2- reviews. NOTE: It's a large file and will take approximately 15-min. to DownLoad. E N J O Y !! andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - simonM Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance, or conscientious stupidity. - - Martin Luther King, Jr. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:48:32 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Reprise Music Show - Wells Fargo Theater, Pt.1 YEAH!!! This is one of my favorite shows!!! Great stories and just Joni and her masterful guitar playing!! Yippee ay oh!!! :-) Thanks Simon!!! Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of simon@icu.com Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 2:38 PM To: joni@smoe.org Cc: Les Irvin; Laura Oppermann Subject: Reprise Music Show - Wells Fargo Theater, Pt.1 Last fall a JMDL member posted a URL link to ... JONI MITCHELL LIVE at the WELLS FARGO THEATER GENE AUTRY WESTERN HERITAGE MUSEUM Los Angeles, CA 26 January 1995 SBD (Pre-FM?) FLAC to MP3 LAME 3.98.2 using libsndfile 1.0.18pre22a parameters: --replaygain-accurate --strictly-enforce-ISO -b256 -q2 -h -V 0 --vbr-new Two things stand out here. 1. Someone took a LossLess 16 bit /44k CD Quality FLAC recording and degraded it by converting it to MP3 2. The also claim it's "Pre-FM" when it's clearly a recording from an FM broadcast, w/Station ID's within the program. - - - - - - "Pre-FM" means a 1-to-1 copy *directly* from the Radio Station recording. ie: NO Compression Many stations use extreme audio compression to keep the sound above the background noise for "distant" listeners, at the expense of degrading the sound quality. - - - - - THIS version of the Wells Fargo concert is SAME version available to JMDL members back in 1998. It was included on TapeTree #6. It's an Air-Check (Off-Air) recording from a broadcast by KCSA, FM-101.9, Glendale, CA. - - - - - - Stay Tuned! Pt.2 of this message will include a URL Link where you can DownLoad this concert in the *Best!* available quality. andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - simonM Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance, or conscientious stupidity. - - Martin Luther King, Jr. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:41:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Clint Norwood Subject: Re: Ofey Hey Dave, I think this is right on the money. For those who see Joni as arrogant, I think this line say not so much. - -Clint ________________________________ From: Dave Blackburn To: Clint Norwood ; JMDL JMDL Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 11:27 AM Subject: Re: Ofey I love that pithy little word choice too. It may have slang connotations of "twee" or "gay" but my dictionary says: Adjective; "giving an impression of vague unworldliness" which seems perfectly apt for what Joni might have felt so far out of her element in Furry's home. I don't know if a double entendre with "ofey" was meant but it is clever to think so. Dave On Aug 1, 2013, at 7:35 AM, Clint Norwood wrote: > Has anyone really noticed this great use of the word "fey" here. > > "I'm rich and I'm fey" > > That is a word not used much in the mainstream but I have to hand it to Joni. First for calling herself that because it takes a lot of guts to look at yourself squarely, and secondly because it is a word not used by white people. My dad who works in a place where 99% of people are black said he asked a friend of his if he'd ever heard of the word "fey" or "ofey." The guy wouldn't talk about it and walked away. > > Now I think of that word when I do contract work and some white executive says, "You seen the new strip mall down there? It has a Chipotle, a Starbucks, a Target and a Genghis Grill. It's great!!" > > Ofey. > > Joni was not the only black guy at the party but it seems that she tried really hard to see her own limited point of view for what it was. I appreciate that. > > -Clint ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:36:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni musings I so agree with this. I was really pretty tongue-in-cheek about her getting a good PR person. I've worked in the political environment and every time I hear the word "messaging" I twitch. Everyone is afraid to answer questions as asked. It's just "stick to the messaging," with the result that people talk, but they say nothing. And I think we all know that Joni would never hire a PR person anyway. >________________________________ > From: Clint Norwood >To: Anita ; Catherine McKay >Cc: Mary Morris ; JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST >Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:50:14 AM >Subject: Re: Joni musings > > >I do try very hard not to misunderstand other people's points and really try >to understand the force that my own subjectivity has in my understanding. When >I hear Joni say that "Honour" died in WWII I understand COMPLETELY what she is >trying to say even though she is speaking out of anger. I'm glad Joni doesn't >have a PA or a PR person. That is exactly what she is talking about. No one >can be frank anymore. Everyone has to have a pre-written speech to deliver >lest they say something untoward. It is not worth listening to what any >politician or public figure has to say these days because none of it is from >the heart. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 20:18:48 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Cranky Joni Mitchell a reminder of Winnipeg shortcoming Title: Cranky Joni Mitchell a reminder of Winnipeg shortcoming Publication: Winnipeg Free Press Date: 2013.8.1 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2668 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 11:40:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Clint Norwood Subject: Re: Ofey Agreed on that. Real writing means word choice a lot of times. Being able to pack an emotion into one or two words (someone referenced "Bourbon Laughter" earlier) is like dynamite. - -Clint ________________________________ From: David J. Phillips To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Cc: Clint Norwood ; JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:06 AM Subject: Re: Ofey following up on my previous post without quoting it. I see now, though the online slang dictionary, that "ofay" means white folks, or crackers, or suchlike. I'm yet again amazed by Join's ability to pack so much into a lyric. djp On 01/08/13 16:5753, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > Hi Clint, > > Years ago we had a lengthy discussion on the word "fey". Wally K started > it, I believe, with just a simple question asking what the word meant. It > went on for days - - that was, of course, when there were fewer choices for > discussion groups on the net. > > Bob > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 13:32:33 -0400 From: "Stebbing, David E." Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2013 #1125 Well, just to put too fine a point on it, Webster's Collegiate Dictionary has this: ofay n [origin unknown] (1925) usu disparaging : a white person And the Concise Oxford English Dictionary has this: ofay n. US informal (among black people) a derogatory term for a white person - -- ORIGIN 1920s: from au fait, in the sense "genteel". - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 12:55 PM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #1125 JMDL Digest Thursday, August 1 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 1125 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: Ofey / ofay [Em ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 09:52:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Em Subject: Re: Ofey / ofay I wonder if "ofay" (derogatory word for white person) is pig latin for "feo", which means ugly in Spanish. hmm... Em - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2013 #1125 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ********************************************************************** U.S. Treasury Circular 230 Notice: Any tax advice contained in this communication (including any attachments) was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, for the purpose of (a) avoiding penalties that may be imposed under the Internal Revenue Code or by any other applicable tax authority; or (b) promoting, marketing or recommending to another party any tax-related matter addressed herein. We provide this disclosure on all outbound e-mails to assure compliance with new standards of professional practice, pursuant to which certain tax advice must satisfy requirements as to form and substance. ************************************************************************ ************************************************************************ This electronic mail transmission may contain confidential or privileged information. If you believe you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by reply transmission and delete the message without copying or disclosing it. ************************************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 19:31:33 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Reprise Music Show - Wells Fargo Theater, Pt.2 This particular show has very special associations for me. I recorded it myself on a cassette tape from a local broadcast and played it over and over again. I'm listening to this wonderful recording that Simon has gifted to us and I have never heard it sound so good. Thank you, Simon and Dave, from the bottom of my heart for making this available. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: simon@icu.com Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2013 1:41 PM To: joni@smoe.org Cc: Les Irvin ; Laura Oppermann Subject: Reprise Music Show - Wells Fargo Theater, Pt.2 On Jan. 26, 1995 the following Joni Mitchell concert was broadcast nationally. JONI MITCHELL  REPRISE MUSIC SHOW Wells Fargo Theater Autry Museum of Western Heritage Los Angeles, Ca. Jan. 26, 1995 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 15:23:40 -0400 (EDT) From: BarbaRent7@aol.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #1125 To be called Ofay is okay by me...so much better than the shit we whities call other people, eh? La Fea Betty, etc...call me anything, if I hear you then that means I'm still alive so its all good. Peace out, my brethren Babs, und mein auft hunde ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 03:00:55 +0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Reprise Music Show - Wells Fargo Theater, Pt.1 And THAT sir is why we love u!!! Gnight from Bangkok 3am Paz OUT On Aug 2, 2013, at 1:37 AM, simon@icu.com wrote: Last fall a JMDL member posted a URL link to ... JONI MITCHELL LIVE at the WELLS FARGO THEATER GENE AUTRY WESTERN HERITAGE MUSEUM Los Angeles, CA 26 January 1995 SBD (Pre-FM?) FLAC to MP3 LAME 3.98.2 using libsndfile 1.0.18pre22a parameters: --replaygain-accurate --strictly-enforce-ISO -b256 -q2 -h -V 0 --vbr-new Two things stand out here. 1. Someone took a LossLess 16 bit /44k CD Quality FLAC recording and degraded it by converting it to MP3 2. The also claim it's "Pre-FM" when it's clearly a recording from an FM broadcast, w/Station ID's within the program. - - - - - - "Pre-FM" means a 1-to-1 copy *directly* from the Radio Station recording. ie: NO Compression Many stations use extreme audio compression to keep the sound above the background noise for "distant" listeners, at the expense of degrading the sound quality. - - - - - THIS version of the Wells Fargo concert is SAME version available to JMDL members back in 1998. It was included on TapeTree #6. It's an Air-Check (Off-Air) recording from a broadcast by KCSA, FM-101.9, Glendale, CA. - - - - - - Stay Tuned! Pt.2 of this message will include a URL Link where you can DownLoad this concert in the *Best!* available quality. andmoreagain, - - - - - - - - - - simonM Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance, or conscientious stupidity. - - Martin Luther King, Jr. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 03:29:24 +0700 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: On a Personal Note And THAT is why I love YOU baby! I am up at 3:30am in Bangkok running from the devil but all i can say is get behind us devil! So sorry about your mum but she is such good company and your focus does need to be where it is. Feel my friendship thru your pain and march on sister. No matter what you still have a bunch of friends here that have your back. Talk soon. Love to u both Paz (on hold with yet ANOTHER airline) On Aug 2, 2013, at 3:13 AM, Cassy wrote: For anyone who is interested, life took a turn for me recently. In the midst of my husband Bradbs stem-cell transplant he developed a fever and was admitted to University of Washington Hospital here in Seattle. While he was in the hospital my sister phoned to tell me my mother had been diagnosed with an aggressive, advanced cancer and that I probably should plan to come to see her bsooner rather than later.b Fortunately my in-laws were able to come and stay with Brad so I could fly off to Michigan to see my mum. I arrived on Thursday the 18th of July, she died on Friday July 19th. I was glad to have had the opportunity to say goodbye to her and felt blessed that she didnbt suffer; from the day of diagnosis to her death was 3 weeks, much more quickly than any of us could have imagined. I am certain I will feel sad for a long time to come but must return to the battle at hand b fighting by my husbandbs side against his cancer. The medical professionals have told us that the stem-cell transplant may have added as much as two years to Bradbs life, we are hoping they are wrong and that it will add much more than that. Unfortunately, while all of these life-altering experiences were happening Joni was lauded in Ontario and I was unable to keep up with all the hoopla. I will endeavor to catch up in the weeks to come and perhaps post some thoughts as I do. I appreciate the efforts put forth by Catherine McKay to update us all as events transpired, she is truly one of the Joni-angels. warmly, Cassy Peace sells but who's buying? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 20:53:32 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Changing the words She rarely changes words but she did on that one. I have a VHS video (remember those?) where she changes it even further. I think she sings "I've got a white limousine and an entourage." She adds some detail about the street musician too. Jim L. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:45:34 +1000 From: Ange T Subject: Re: Cambridge Folk Festival Hey Jonathan, I'm often disappointed when I attend folk festivals here in Australia....I was kind of hoping it was more of a 'small pool of talent Down Under' phenomenon. It's so rare that a modern artist 'blows me away'. To have that combination of exceptional lyrics AND melodies ... well... are there any female singer songwriters that are doing the festival circuit these days who are up there with Joni? Me thinks not. Truly in a league of her own! Ange in Oz angetakats.com.au On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 8:19 AM, JMDL Digest > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:37:42 +0200 > From: Jonathan Edward Lowe > Subject: Cambridge Folk Festival > > I just spent 4 great days at the Cambridge (UK) Folk Festival- listening > to a > diverse bunch of artists, old and new- Blair Dunlop, Emily Barker, The > Staves, > Thea Gilmore, KT Tunstall and The Waterboys, to name but a few. However, > at > some friends' house on Saturday morning, we sat in their garden and put on > "For The Roses". And then it just struck me- why the heck am I bothering > to > go to a music festival, when I can sit here, and listen to this perfection? > Joni is so far ahead of any other artist... > > Jonathan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:03:07 -0400 From: Gerald Kent Subject: Re: Saskatoon kerfuffle All of my Joni friends, please stop trying to justify everything she says. She over shot. She cannot say whatever she pleases and just go sit in her Belair mansion and tell everyone how misunderstood she is. Enough is enough. That being said, I will continue to have the deepest respect for her music and visual art. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2013, at 8:46 PM, Betsy Blue wrote: > Thanks to all who have written eloquently on this topic. > > I just wanted to add that I understand the comment about Saskatoon being > like the deep south in that the nonwhite population is large enough to be > unavoidable and a threat to the whites. (The irony is obvious.) In other > areas, people may not consider themselves racist because they have had > fewer opportunities to realize their own discriminatory behavior or the > benefits they have as members of a privileged class. > > I'm sure Joni is at least partially right about attitudes not changing > quickly enough. In Cherokee Louise she says the runaway "can't even come to > our house" as if she had expected better of her parents. Maybe they were > the very kind of "progressive" people who weren't outwardly racist and > associated with First Nations people. But they were still part of the > establishment that felt it had higher moral character, when they were > really just given better opportunities. > > Speculation. Well, who's to know? > > Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:37:18 -0400 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Now all this crap Seems perfect though, capturing the duality of everything, which is certainly always part of anything concerning Joni Mitchell. On Tuesday, July 30, 2013, Stdoherty wrote: It was cool for a while to have so much activity on the digest. So much positive press, Joni laughing, great tunes and well deserved accolades for the queen. And now all this crap. Wish it would go away. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 10:26:58 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: siquomb Hi folks! Please forgive a trivial question from this beginner, but what is SIQUOMB?> Hi David, and welcome to the JMDL. It's not a trivial question, it's probably the first one that most of us have when we sign up. The fast answer is that it stands for "She is Queen Indisputably of Mind Beauty". Back in Joni's early creative phase, she concocted a mythical story setting which featured some of these made up sorts of words, like POSALL - perhaps our souls are little ladies MOSALM - maybe our souls are little men and so on. SIQUOMB was the ruler of the land, or some such as that. She talks about it in some of the earliest interviews she participated in. So, now that you're among us, feel free to take a moment to give us an intro to YOU. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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