From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #294 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, July 27 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 294 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- The hammers and the boards and the nails... [David Marine Subject: The hammers and the boards and the nails... Wow who is this guy, a Canadian Rush Limbaugh? Leaving aside the fact that he got pretty much everything wrong, he doesn't even attempt to address her statements. All he's doing is proving her point: they don't "get" her. And no one seems to be addressing the bigotry that Joni's referencing. Years ago she was approached about what might be done to honor her, and she suggested something recognizing the First Nations. They killed that idea fast. What is she to infer but that little has changed since the days of Cherokee Louise? The comments sections of some of the Saskatchewan articles are telling. I've seen posts directed toward Joni supporters calling them "stupid Indians," "greasy Indians," etc. I liked the blunt, straightforward lyrics of "Shine," and I love the blunt declarations of the elder Joni. Best, David On Jul 26, 2013, at 10:17 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 02:16:48 +0000 > From: "Susan E. McNamara" > Subject: Re: "Joni Mitchell's white liberal self-loathing" > > This is all so weird to me after coming off of the incredible experience of Luminato. She's got herself a real gloves off wrestling match now. If Ann Coulter gets involved, please warn me before you send the video ... I may get sick to my stomach! > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 26, 2013, at 7:56 PM, "Les Irvin" wrote: > >> http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/2566091524001 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2013 01:01:28 -0400 From: David Marine Subject: Painting with too broad a brush Hey List, In my last post I suggested that the Saskatchewan press wasn't addressing the comments of Joni in a thoughtful way. That was my mistake, as I see from one of the articles that Les posted. Doug Cuthand from the Saskatoon StarPhoenix has clearly taken Joni -- and the issue of the first nations -- seriously. I remember an interview that Joni did years ago in which she suggested that the kind of in-your-face protest that Sinead O'Conner did when she ripped up a picture of the Pope was perhaps ultimately counterproductive (in retrospect, perhaps it was prescient). I think she offered up "The Magdalene Laundries" as a more diplomatic and ultimately more effective criticism. Do you think that Joni has made a conscious decision, both in her lyrics and in her public statements, to be less nuanced? I know she's always been outspoken, but her deliver seems to have become more, well... blunt. Is it perhaps merely the freedom that comes with age? Best, David ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #294 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe