From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #253 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, June 29 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 253 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Luminato tribute - songs already up on CBC! [Catherine McKay ] Liam Titcomb, "If" on Youtube [Catherine McKay ] Fwd: Subject: elusive instrument used by Joni on Taming the Tiger album and 1998 Painting with words and music, and concert in Bethal NY [] Luminato tribute - songs already up on CBC! [Catherine McKay ] Re: Parker Fly - Fred Walecki [Michael Paz ] Re: Parker Fly - Fred Walecki [Shari Eaton ] Re: This Rain, This Rain [Catherine McKay ] Furry Sings the Blues & Hejira [LC Stanley ] RE: Hejira pronunciation [Barbara Sullivan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:09:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Luminato tribute - songs already up on CBC! So far, here's what's up: The fiddle and the drum - Lizz Wright Coyote - Glen Hansard You turn me on - Kathleen Edwards If - Liam Titcomb Shades of Scarlett - Lizz Wright The wold that lives in Lindsey - Lizz Wright Both Sides Now - Esperanza Spalding All I want - Rufus W A case of you - Rufus More to come! >________________________________ > From: Catherine McKay >To: JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST ; Les Irvin >Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 8:00:56 PM >Subject: Luminato tribute - songs already up on CBC! > > > >Yippee! Some of the songs are already there on CBC's website. Past experience tells me they will add them as they process them: > > > >http://music.cbc.ca/#/concerts/Joni-A-Portrait-in-Song-presented-by-Luminato-Festival-2013-06-19 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:48:45 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Joni Mitchell's Guitars and Tunings Title: Joni Mitchell's Guitars and Tunings Publication: The Unique Guitar Blog Date: 2013.1.29 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2617 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 22:07:14 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Furry is Furious at Joni Furry Lewis is Furious at Joni by Mark Seal [Rolling Stone] February 24, 1977 MEMPHIS - There's an electrical wire hanging down in front of bluesman Furry Lewis' small, olive green duplex. It drapes across his front porch, and Furry is so worried about it he can hardly get drunk and have fun with the people who have come to visit, "Somebody call up the 'lectric department to fix that thing!" he yells, sitting in the bed that has become his stage and pouring a dose of Ten High bourbon into a well-worn shot glass. "l know I've always been a rascal, but I ain't never done nothin' bad enough to be in the 'lectric chair." Age and cataracts have dulled Furry's eyesight - though not his feisty spirit - - and his public appearances have been whittled down to a cherished few, but Furry's still got the world at his bedside. Guests, from young neighborhood kids seeking guitar lessons to celebrities, stream into his three-room flat. Lewis played his slide-driven, talking guitar blues with the father of the blues, W.C Handy, on Beale Street in the early 1900s. Today, the street is crumbling, and a small statue of Handy toting a horn overlooks the ruins. To Furry Lewis, Beale Street was "where somebody was killed every Saturday night and born every Sunday." At arm's reach from his bed, Furry's got all his daily necessities: battered Martin electric guitar and small amp, two half gallons of Ten High, a .38 revolver stashed inside a drawer, his walking stick, a teddy bear and a cigar box labeled "Business". "I'm 83 years old half blind and gots a wooden leg," he says. "But I sure gots a lot of friends. " But Furry's got his problems, too. Just a few weeks ago, he explains, he played at a local club and still hasn't been paid. And then there's "that woman" who recorded a song about him. The song, "Furry Sings the Blues," is on Joni Mitchell's latest album, Hejira. In it, Mitchell paints Furry "down and out in Memphis, Tennessee," and his music "mostly muttering now and sideshow spiel." She had visited the aging bluesman and the pitiful situation on Beale Street had led her to write: Furry sings the blues Fallin' to hard luck And time and other thieves While our limo is shining on his shanty street. Old Furry sings the blues. "The way I feel" says Furry "is that your name is proper only to you, and when you use it you should get results from it. She shouldn't have used my name in no way, shape, form or faction without consultin' me 'bout it first. The woman came over here and I treated her right, just like I does everybody that comes over. She wanted to hear 'bout the old days, said it was for her own personal self, and I told it to her like it was, gave her straight oil from the can." He stares at the surrealistic photo on the Hejira cover. "But then she goes and puts it all down on a record, using my name and not giving me nothing! I can't stop nobody from talkie' 'bout Beale Street, 'cause the street belongs to everybody. But when she says 'Furry,' well that belongs to me!" (Though Joni Mitchell had no response to Furry's comments, her manager, Elliot Roberts, responded: "All she said about him was, 'Furry sings the blues' the rest is about the neighborhood. She doesn't even mention his last name. She really enjoyed meeting him, and wrote about her impressions of the meeting, He did tell her that he didn't like her, but we can't pay him royalties for that. I don't pay royalties to everybody who says they don't like me. I'd go broke.") Still, Furry can't deny the truths of "Furry Sings the Blues," with its references to Beale Street's doom, that "history falls/ To parking lots and shopping malls." "They only make a statue of you when you dead and gone," Furry says. "I've known a whole lots of musicianers in my life and lots of 'em are dead now. But I guess that Handy's the only one that's ant a statue of him. But then I ain't gone yet. "Now I know I ain't a star," he says, reaching for his glass and winking with a wise old grin "But I sure might be a moon." ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 18:06:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Liam Titcomb, "If" on Youtube Just found this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLe8whyTqUk&feature=youtu.be ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 19:37:50 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Fwd: Subject: elusive instrument used by Joni on Taming the Tiger album and 1998 Painting with words and music, and concert in Bethal NY > Josh, you said in part, >> I have > been trying to figure this out for years. Joni uses an instrument > that I've never > heard before... I always just assumed it was a guitar but > a friend of mine > thinks it's a mandelin ... I'm > blind, and have been > since birth, so I'm really in tune with sound...> > > Welcome to the discussion list, Josh. I'd say you have a good ear! I don't play but I listen deeply; maybe you can identify with that. > > The Roland VG-8 was capable of doing several things. If I recall my history, you can use it in standard tuning to get very unusual sounds. Joni had a setting, or "patch" that she called "crystal" which she used in a song called "Harlem In Havana". To her, it sounds like a carnival and she built a latter-day miracle out of that patch, adding a vivid childhood memory. She put that song on a compilation of her influences, on Hear Music. > > When the Roland representative was teaching Joni about the VG-8, he talked at length about the voicings available in standard tuning. As the discussion was winding down, he mentioned that a user could also use the voicings to store alternate tunings. > > Joni pounced on the tunings feature, as you can tell. > > The only down side is that you can use only that one guitar voice that you hear on the concert DVD that you already know. > > Here is a link to a You Tube video where a guitarist demonstrates several different voicings made possible at the press of a switch, by the Roland VG-8. It is a flat metal box with controls on top. I guess most people use foot switches, plugged into the box, to change the sounds. > > http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/442 > > Jim in Columbus, Ohio ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:00:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Luminato tribute - songs already up on CBC! Yippee! Some of the songs are already there on CBC's website. Past experience tells me they will add them as they process them: http://music.cbc.ca/#/concerts/Joni-A-Portrait-in-Song-presented-by-Luminato-Festival-2013-06-19 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2013 00:52:25 -0400 From: "Robert Sartorius" Subject: RE: Hejira pronunciation Gary Z replied to Sue: "Hi Sue, Here's a video where Joni talks about Hejira (from "Painting with Words and Music"). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA6HGN1crNU" Perfect, Gary ! I have, of course, viewed this concert a dozen times or so, but could not pinpoint it as my source. In addition to the "Joni pronunciation", it includes her confession that she got the title while browsing through the dictionary ("not that she does that, or that there is anything wrong with that") ;-) Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 20:03:03 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Parker Fly - Fred Walecki Yes. She literally got the system the day before and programmed it in her room the night before. When she did that opening number the sound man at front of house console did not know what hit him. It was distorted and huge and it scared the shit out of the 30,000 people that were in front of the stage, It was kinda sad that by the time she ended the show there was only about 5000 of use left. They were looking to hear the hits and she was playing what she wanted to and as usual totally confused and underwhelmed the unwashed.... Home sweet home and its medication time... Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com On Jun 28, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Shari Eaton wrote: I saw her play with this system at the jazz fest in new Orleans in 1995. Is this the debut jazz show you're referring to? Shari On Jun 28, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Michael Paz wrote: > short comment. I think it was Fred that set her up with the VG-8 with a Strat > and and then he got her the Parker Fly with a Piezo pick up in it and > installed the GK-2a interface on he guitar and kept the weight under 2 1/2 > pounds. I met the guy (Gary White) from Roland (at the time) that programmed > the VG in her hotel room the night before the Jazz Fest show where she debuted > the system. I have a copy of all those patches still. What fun!!! The strat > was too heavy for her. I own a Concert Fly and a Deluxe Fly by Parker. I am > looking to trade the Deluxe for a Turner Guitar like Lindsay Buckingham plays. > Have always loved the sounds he gets from that instrument. > More later > > Paz > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 2013, at 2:56 PM, kbhla@fastmail.fm wrote: > > Bob and all, > > Fred Walecki is still with us! He did battle throat cancer several > years ago but recovered and is still involved in the musical instrument > business. Heard through the grapevine that he still makes "house calls" > to maintain Joni's guitars ;-) > > > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 17:59:07 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: Parker Fly - Fred Walecki I saw her play with this system at the jazz fest in new Orleans in 1995. Is this the debut jazz show you're referring to? Shari On Jun 28, 2013, at 1:18 PM, Michael Paz wrote: > short comment. I think it was Fred that set her up with the VG-8 with a Strat > and and then he got her the Parker Fly with a Piezo pick up in it and > installed the GK-2a interface on he guitar and kept the weight under 2 1/2 > pounds. I met the guy (Gary White) from Roland (at the time) that programmed > the VG in her hotel room the night before the Jazz Fest show where she debuted > the system. I have a copy of all those patches still. What fun!!! The strat > was too heavy for her. I own a Concert Fly and a Deluxe Fly by Parker. I am > looking to trade the Deluxe for a Turner Guitar like Lindsay Buckingham plays. > Have always loved the sounds he gets from that instrument. > More later > > Paz > > Michael Paz > michael@thepazgroup.com > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 2013, at 2:56 PM, kbhla@fastmail.fm wrote: > > Bob and all, > > Fred Walecki is still with us! He did battle throat cancer several > years ago but recovered and is still involved in the musical instrument > business. Heard through the grapevine that he still makes "house calls" > to maintain Joni's guitars ;-) > > > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:56:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: This Rain, This Rain And it has already been fixed. Les, you rock! >________________________________ > From: Catherine McKay >To: Jamie Zubairi Home ; Les Irvin ; Vincenzo >Cc: "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 5:18:49 PM >Subject: Re: This Rain, This Rain > > > >By george, I think you've got it! I've listened to both versions and it does sound more like "New York" than "in Europe." I didn't see a problem with Europe earlier, because I thought she was saying that she hates big buildings, but it definitely does sound more like "New York" to me. (And she might still hate big buildings. Also, for what it's worth, Carr spent time in both New York and Europe.) > > > > > > >>________________________________ >> From: Jamie Zubairi Home >>To: Marianne Rizzo ; Catherine McKay >>Cc: "joni@smoe.org" >>Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:54:32 PM >>Subject: Re: This Rain, This Rain >> >> >>Listening to the first night (Catherine's video) and a clearer audio from >>the second night I'd like to suggest an amendment to Vincenzo's good work. >>There are a few small word differences between the two nights. On the first >>night she omits 'Soulless' from 'soulless trees' but both nights I think >>she says 'New York' and not 'in Europe'. >> >>I think it makes more sense that it's New York, with its skyscrapers. I've >>never seen Europe (and I guess I mean 'the Continent' ;-) as having many >>skyscrapers, certainly not significantly during much of Emily Carr's >>lifetime. Much changed now though. >> >> ... >> >> All big cities make me sick, >> Except New York, I don't know why. >> Big buildings stretching up brick by brick. >> Like my cedar groves, they >> scrape that sky. >> It doesn't rain like this back there. >> Oh, it rains enough, >> just enough to wash the air >> and sweep the litter off the street. >> But THIS rain, Oh, >> This rain will not be beat >> >>.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 11:03:39 -0700 (PDT) From: LC Stanley Subject: Furry Sings the Blues & Hejira Joni looks and sounds great here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGJyjFhCgkE ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 17:50:41 -0400 From: Barbara Sullivan Subject: RE: Hejira pronunciation I have always called it" ha'-ji'-ra' " ...My ex hubbin's name was Ira..(Jewish). Anyway, that is how I have always pronounced it..I kinda liked seeing his name in the title. And I think it means journey?? Maybe I am thinking of something else. Ada > Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 10:30:14 -0700 > From: anima_rising@yahoo.ca > Subject: Re: Hejira pronunciation > To: nyro_in_detroit@comcast.net; sem8@cornell.edu > CC: joni@smoe.org > > Thanks, Gary. > > I am struck by how good Joni looks in this video. 1998 was > fifteen years ago, so she was 54-55. I think she looks much younger here, but > maybe they're using gauzy filters. But, some people stay youthful looking for > a long time and then suddenly, almost overnight, start looking their age. > Although I think Joni now looks her age, I hope to look that good or to have > that kind of energy at 70, if I live that long. > > The use of table lamps is > also interesting, because they were used on stage at Massey Hall, along with > some other living-room type furniture (sofas on the side of the stage for the > singers if they wanted to stay on stage, carpets on the floor, chandeliers > hanging from the ceiling with drapes behind. It gave the place a sort of homey > feel. I guess that was Joni's idea. > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > From: Gary Z. > >To: Susan E. McNamara > > >Cc: "joni@smoe.org" ; > "onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org" > >Sent: Thursday, June > 27, 2013 11:12:09 AM > >Subject: Re: Hejira pronunciation > > > > > >Hi Sue, > > > >Here's a video where Joni talks about Hejira (from "Painting with Words > >and > Music"). > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA6HGN1crNU > > > >Best, > > > >Gary Z. > >Detroit > > > >Susan E. McNamara wrote: > >> Wow, Bob, this brings me on a quest to > find a video interview where she > >> pronounces it. It must be in Woman of > Heart and Mind at least. Not sure. I > >> was also reminded of the word Haj - > another word describing the holy > >> pilgrimage to Mecca. > >> > >> Susan Tierney > McNamara > >> email: sem8@cornell.edu > >> > >> From: > Robert Sartorius [mailto:bobsart48@aol.com] > >> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 > 9:49 PM > >> To: joni@smoe.org; onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org > >> Cc: Susan E. > McNamara > >> Subject: RE: Hejira pronunciation > >> > >> > >> Sue stated: > >> > >> > >> > >> > "I've always pronounced it Heh-jeer-a ... and I think that's the way Joni > >> > pronounces it. I've heard many variations so I go with the way she says it." > >> > >> > >> > >> I think that's how Joni pronounces it, too, but I cannot pinpoint > where I came > >> to that conclusion. Can anyone else confirm? As "widely known" > here on the > >> list, the word does not appear in the song's lyrics - just the > title. > >> > >> > >> > >> My "bible" (er, dictionary) has been the Random House > Unabridged. I own the > >> second Edition, which is copyrighted in 1987, and so > is now 26 years > >> out-of-date. Still, it is a magnificent tome, with > exquisite dissertations on > >> nuances of related words, to answer essentially > every question that has ever > >> come up in my conversations. > >> > >> > >> > >> Said > "bible", inexplicably, does not list as one of its definitions (u.c., > >> > natch) "a masterpiece album and song by Joni Mitchell". > >> > >> > >> > >> They > define(d) it as "hegira - def. 2", with a preferred pronunciation of " hi > >> > JEYE ruh" (i.e., short i in first syllable, long I in second syllable, > >> > accented). This is the pronunciation that I have used since I first "looked > >> it up".The alternate pronunciation is "HEJ uhr uh", short e in first > syllable, > >> accent on first syllable. The pronunciation of Hegira is the > same. > >> > >> > >> > >> The primary definition under Hegira (also, hejira) is > "Islam. Hijra". The > >> second definition is "any flight or journey to a more > desirable or congenial > >> place". > >> > >> > >> > >> Hijra (HIJ ruh) short i in first > syllable, accent on first syllable, in turn, > >> is 1. The flight of > Muhammad from Mecca to Medina to escape persecution A.D. > >> 622, regarded as > the beginning of the Muslim Era. 2. The Muslim Era itself. > >> Also, Hegira, > Hijrah (the latter of which is suggested as the Arabic source > >> word). > >> > >> > >> > >> The Muslim Era is defined as the period since the flight of Muhammad > from > >> Mecca in AD 622 - also known as Hijra. > >> > >> > >> > >> Of course, similar > loops could be constructed from any other dictionary, with > >> numerous > variations, no doubt. And, with the increase in the frequency of > >> usage of > Islamic terms in written and spoken English over the past 26 years, > >> there > has no doubt been some evolution since then. > >> > >> > >> > >> If this were Joni's > name, I would argue that she gets to make the call. [For > >> example, my > wife's maiden name is Rosenbaum, and she pronounces the last > >> syllable as > "bomb" - which, it has been decreed, is her prerogative ;-)] But > >> Joni > admits she stole her title from her dictionary, so it seems to me that > >> her > dictionary's pronunciation should control, no? All Joni needs to do is to > >> > produce the one she consulted in 1975, and I will be happy to change the way I > >> pronounce Hejira ;-) > >> > >> > >> > >> Bobsart ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #253 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe