From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #239 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Monday, June 24 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 239 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Questions regarding Furry Sings The Blues [Jamie Zubairi Home ] 1995 Billboard Century Award [Vincenzo Mancini ] Mad Men's finale: BSN ["Susan E. McNamara" ] RE: Luminato festival ends on a sublime note ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: Joni at Luminato [Catherine McKay ] Re: Squelched? ["Mark" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 23:59:43 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi Home Subject: Re: Questions regarding Furry Sings The Blues Not too mention "gold endive" ;) I'm with the Hedge ear uh camp, but with the stress on the first syllable Jamie Zubairi Actor, Painter, Voiceover, Creative Future Appearances: June 13th Balinese Dance City University July 1st Caged Bird Sings, part of Face 2 Face festival, Lost Theatre July 7 Balinese Dance South Bank Centre On 24 Jun 2013 23:45, "Catherine McKay" wrote: > I'm sure Joni doesn't pronounce it correctly and am willing to bet most of > us can't, but, if it's her song and album, I'd pronounce it her way, or > maybe explain that you disagree with her pronunciation because of the > reasons you gave. > > She also says "realtors" strangely (real-a-tors or something like that.) I > don't remember how she says "samba" but I think she says "cellulate" for > "cellulite." We've had the "clandestine" discussion before too. Ah well, no > one's perfect! I wonder whether she has ever used "nuclear" in a song? > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > p.s my band performs this abum in November so it will be nice to be able > to > > pronounce it correctly. Joni is probably not a good source for its > pronunciation > > having heard her way of saying "samba" and "cellulite"! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 14:24:55 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi Home Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #237 Hi Bill You'll have to look at the actual lyrics and read them, poem-like, when looking at the meaning of her songs. Electricity The Minus is loveless He talks to the land And the leaves fall And the pond over-ices The copper proud-headed Queen Lizzie refers to the Canadian cent, Queen Elizabeth, being used on the front (or back) I love the idea that she would mention King Midas... The jonimitchell.com website has some notes on this http://jonimitchell.com/music/song.cfm?id=111 I LOVE Joni mondegreens and I'm guilty of some of them myself. Jamie Zubairi Actor, Voiceover, Painter, Photographer. Acting Agent: Pelham Associates 01273 323 010 SpotLight Showreel Unbroken Line Upcoming Appearances: *Balinese Dance Performance*, June 13th, City University, Angel *Caged Bird Sing*s July 1st LOST Theatre, Stockwell. Recent work: *Tino Sehgal Unilever Commission "These Associations" *Turbine Hall, Tate Modern *Unbroken Line*' OvalHouse, supported by public funding from the Arts Council of England. On 24 June 2013 13:43, Bill Branyon wrote: > What does it mean when Joni says: "The Midus is loveless he talks to the > light" ??? in her song "Electricity"?? Also what is the "copper, proud > headed > Tin Lizzy," (I think it says.)? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:26:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Luminato festival ends on a sublime note Make that a big me too. And you could feel the love, not to make it sound too smarmy. Now I'm wondering how they're going to try to top THAT next year. - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Michael quebec > To: "joni@smoe.org" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 5:42:10 PM > Subject: Luminato festival ends on a sublime note > > An excerpt from an article by Martin Knelman, published in the Toronto Star, > Monday June 24, 2013. > > ...But when it came to creating mass euphoria, crowning the festival was the > superb Joni Mitchell tribute concert, which filled Massey Hall for two > consecutive nights, and will go down as one of the key "you had to be > there" > occasions in Toronto entertainment history.... > > Good God, I am so greatful I was able to attend and celebrate. > > Michael in Quebec, just home from Toronto. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 13:52:01 -0400 From: Michael Sentance Subject: Re: "Squelched" chatter As a painter, Joni ought to understand that cinema is an art form that has it's own rules. A film isn't necessarily a documentary even if it is based on a biography. Look at "Nowhere Boy" which depicts the early life of John Lennon and "Backbeat", a very good film about the Beatles in Germany. Both have historical/factual anomalies but are very good representations of these emerging talents of Lennon, McCartney and Harrison. And then there is "I'm Not There", the ambitious six person characterization of the once inauthentic Bob Dylan. It is flawed and yet worth viewing. Now there is a film about Joni that would be a lot of fun - several episodic short films about various times on her life. Joni deserves a great film about her and her saga. But I'm not sure that she should oversee it. On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Catherine McKay wrote: > Um, yeah, well, that would be a fair assessment. Remember, Joni has no > peers! > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Anita G > ** > Maybe she just wants the whole movie about herself and > not share space with Carly and Carol, > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:46:47 +0100 (BST) From: Vincenzo Mancini Subject: 1995 Billboard Century Award The best part is definitely missing and the quality is not so good, but this is news to me! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD-B8n1U1-g ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 16:21:51 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: Mad Men's finale: BSN The NY Times had a great Monday morning quarterbacking article on each Mad Men episode by Sloane Crosely and Logan Hill, and I read every one throughout the season. Sloane and Logan had some great things to say about the addition of Both Sides Now at the end (and I love that they don't mention Judy Collins). These guys get it: http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/24/talking-mad-men-the-season-final e/?ref=arts Relevant excerpt: LH: Yes, I'm skeptical that self-revelation leads to progress, anyway. But progress probably isn't the point. Will Sally understand why he cheated on Betty a little better? Maybe. The episode ended with the song "Both Sides, Now" and it's obsessed with bicoastal possibilities, motivated by Bob's likely bisexuality (or sexual practicality), and led by characters (Roger, Don, Ted) who want it all but can't have much of anything. In the end, Don's left jobless and wifeless and it's going to be fascinating to see how Matt Weiner rebuilds him. SC: Best use of a Joni Mitchell song since "Love, Actually." The show is at its strongest when it pivots harder on truth than slapstick. I was grateful to see the finale go back to basics (with the exception of Kenny's eyepatch, which was just consistency, and Pete's mother, whom we never see because she is lying somewhere at the bottom of the Caribbean like a gaudy necklace). I guess the progress I hope for is more the show's than Don's. Just so long as it rains Sterling Cooper & Partners wall calendars and pens next season. Susan Tierney McNamara fax: 607-254-7166 email: sem8@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:50:52 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Luminato festival ends on a sublime note I second that emotion ... I'm still pinching myself ... when Jorn Weisbrodt said that people in 500 years will be still studying and playing Joni Mitchell's music, I did not think that was far-fetched in the least, and the crowd agreed. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Michael quebec Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 5:42 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Luminato festival ends on a sublime note An excerpt from an article by Martin Knelman, published in the Toronto Star, Monday June 24, 2013. ...But when it came to creating mass euphoria, crowning the festival was the superb Joni Mitchell tribute concert, which filled Massey Hall for two consecutive nights, and will go down as one of the key "you had to be there" occasions in Toronto entertainment history.... Good God, I am so greatful I was able to attend and celebrate. Michael in Quebec, just home from Toronto. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 09:49:37 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Squelched? On 24/06/2013, Catherine McKay wrote: She says she spoke to a producer who was apparently at the movie > showing in BC last year that some jmdlers attended. (Does anyone who was > there know if a movie producer was also there?) I don't know if there were any film producers at the event, but there were all kinds of people who were very appreciative of Joni. I could imagine that a producer who might want to talk with Joni getting to the event or even her inviting someone who might get a sense from that event of what Joni's music means to people. Phyllis, Laura, Cassy, Pearl we were there - did any of you get a hint of anything like that going on? As for me, if I'd have met them I probably wouldn't remember it, I was just so amazed by everything, Anita ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 15:43:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni at Luminato The teleprompter was distracting me. I kept looking ahead, to see what might be coming next. If I had been at a slightly different angle, I might have managed to catch all the words to "this Rain" which I'm trying to figure out right now. It's difficult to hear some of them. >________________________________ > From: Michael quebec >To: "ivpaul42@aol.com" ; "joni@smoe.org" ; "anima_rising@yahoo.ca" >Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 6:24:57 PM >Subject: Re: Joni at Luminato > > >I hear what you say Paul, but when I see that video, (by the way, which is >different from the Teusday night performance; the piano here is more present, >Herbie ?) I see and hear a complete transformation of that song, it has become >something celebratory, almost like a jazz prayer, and the singers are just >gliding, soaring along with the music as best they can (perhaps a tad >under-rehearsed) grooving to the notion that we are stardust, golden, million >year old carbon, and we've got to get back to the garden. Yes, Joni's voice >has changed, but strangely, her delivery is now stronger and more convincing >than ever. BTW, I had not noticed onstage the teleprompter scrolling the >song's lyrics behind the singers, clearly visible in Catherine's Teusday night >video of the song. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 18:33:28 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Squelched? I agree completely, Lori. Putting up with or tolerating, I don't see Joni doing either one. But does Joni really have the clout to squelch an already green-lighted movie? Or was the movie ever green-lighted? And was it the 'Girls Like Us' movie she was referring to or another project? I haven't listened to the TimesTalk interview yet so I don't know but I haven't read anything more specific than that she told a producer that a movie about her would be a piece of shit. Personally, I find the thought of Joni Mitchell saying that to a movie producer to be highly amusing. 'Kiss my ass, I said, and I threw my drink'. My feeling is that people will discover her music as time goes on with or without a Hollywood movie about Joni or a high profile young singing sensation playing her in it. Good musicians who know their stuff are never going to let Joni's music fade into obscurity. Bob Muller's collection of covers is ample proof of that. And I'm with Sue. I believe people will be studying her music in 500 years, providing there are still civilized humans in 500 years. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Lori Renee Fye Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 3:00 PM To: Phyliss S Ward Cc: Anita G ; Catherine McKay ; JMDL Subject: Re: Squelched? And that was a cross between "putting up with" and "tolerating." Sheesh. I can't imagine Joni putting tolerating a film about her life while she's > still living. > > Lori > Idaho ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #239 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe