From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #237 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, June 23 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 237 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Squelched? [Phyliss Ward ] Re: Luminato - by the kid who didn't get to go [Laura Stanley ] RE: Behind The Scenes with Joni Mitchell - CBC Music ["Scott Johnson" ] Joni tribute report [Catherine McKay ] Re: Collage of Joni tribute photos from Luminato, Tuesday, June 18 [Cathe] Re: This rain. [johncalimee@frontier.com] Joni's voice and sinuses [Laura Stanley ] Re: VIDEO UPDATE Longer Fury Sings The Blues @Massey Hall [Michael Paz Subject: Squelched? Anybody have any clue whether this is true? A posting on Sheila Weller's Fb page leads me to believe it might be... Phyliss ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 14:31:57 -0500 From: Laura Stanley Subject: Re: Luminato - by the kid who didn't get to go Sweet! Sent from my iPhone On Jun 22, 2013, at 1:09 AM, "Mark" wrote: > LUMINATO > > I came upon an aging child > She was sitting at an airport gate > And I asked her why are you waiting > And this she told me > > She said I'm going on up to Massy Hall > Gonna join in a fabulous band > Got a room in Toronto land > I'm gonna get something my soul needs > > She is genius > She is Siquomb > And we've got to get ourselves > To Luminato > > Then can I fly beside you > I want out of this dog eat dog > And I feel a bit agog > I feel your yearning > > Oh maybe I am just another fan > Or maybe it's that she is grand > I still don't know who I am > But you know her music's for learning > > She is genius > She is Siquomb > And we've got to get ourselves > To Luminato > > By the time we got to Massy > We could feel the love was strong > And from everywhere came her songs > In celebration > > As we dreamed of songs she might sing > She spoke words but her voice broke free > And then she sang us three > To loud ovations > > She is genius > Years of ageless wonder > She is Joni > No one can steal her thunder > And we've got to get ourselves > To Luminato ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Jun 2013 19:44:54 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: VIDEO: Joni: The Creative Odyssey of Joni Mitchell Am 23.06.2013 19:27, Wie est86mlm@ameritech.net so vortrefflich formulierte: > Ran across this very thought-provoking interview with Katherine > Monk. > > http://www.cbc.ca/player/Radio/Local+Shows/British+Columbia/Radio+West/ID/2289036482/?page=14 > > > > Laura > And the audio direct download link is: http://thumbnails.cbc.ca/maven_legacy/thumbnails/14/465/bcradiowest_20121009_54825_uploaded.mp3 moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 22:21:11 -0400 From: "Scott Johnson" Subject: Behind The Scenes with Joni Mitchell - CBC Music http://music.cbc.ca/blogs/2013/6/Behind-the-scenes-with-Joni-Mitchell-at-Lum inato-Festival-2013 I'm not sure if this has been posted yet. I love the third photo with Joni and band members around the piano. Herbie Hancock is going over the arrangement. Jody ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 15:42:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni at Luminato Her voice has changed A LOT since even Travelogue. But I think that it's also very difficult to get decent sound when you're using a camera to record it. I'm pretty sure that the person who uploaded this one probably used either a cellphone or a camera like mine, which is more suited to taking pictures than to capturing sound. Of course, if you didn't like the Travelogue/BSN/Shine voice, then you probably won't like her current voice. She did say she didn't even know if she could sing. She blames it on her illnesses, but never mentions the obvious: smoking. Being there in person was a whole different situation. Even the band doesn't sound all that good on these videos and you can't hear the backup singers (who weren't singing very loudly in any case.) Even hearing her speaking voice, particularly at the TimesTalks event some of us attended, was better than hearing it on radio. Maybe it was just the fact that she was there in person and we could see her, but I found her speaking voice sounded much richer live than it does on recorded events. Let's see what happens once CBC gets the event up on their site and what people think then. I'm sure opinions will vary. >________________________________ > From: Paul Ivice >To: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 4:55:26 PM >Subject: Joni at Luminato > > >Here's Joni (and group) singing Woodstock along with Kilauren @ Massey >Hall Wednesday night (6/19) >http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=344 > >Laura > > >Those of you who don't hate me already probably will after reading this, but I >tell it the way I see it. >I found this video to be unwatchable. >I couldn't get past the first verse. >The pace is so damn slow that it drags and, I am sorry to say, her voice is so >far gone that she now cannot carry a melody. >It hurts me to say it because I've loved Joni's voice, music and songwriting >for decades (1971), but perhaps because of that I could not bear to watch this >video of a sad, sad performance. > > >Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 22:47:36 -0400 From: "Scott Johnson" Subject: RE: Behind The Scenes with Joni Mitchell - CBC Music Sorry Paz, Try this -- http://music.cbc.ca/blogs/2013/6/Behind-the-scenes-with-Joni-Mitchell-at-Lum inato-Festival-2013 - -----Original Message----- From: Michael Paz [mailto:michael@thepazgroup.com] Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 10:40 PM To: Scott Johnson Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Behind The Scenes with Joni Mitchell - CBC Music Link did n ot work for me Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com On Jun 20, 2013, at 10:21 PM, Scott Johnson wrote: http://music.cbc.ca/blogs/2013/6/Behind-the-scenes-with-Joni-Mitchell-at-Lum inato-Festival-2013 I'm not sure if this has been posted yet. I love the third photo with Joni and band members around the piano. Herbie Hancock is going over the arrangement. Jody ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 20:27:33 -0700 (PDT) From: lu lancton Subject: Luminato report WOW! I'm so physically and emotionally wiped right now that I can't even type. Bill and I got in last night at 12:30AM from our drive straight from Toronto (well, with a side trip to a fabulous local winery and Niagra Falls) to home in Indianapolis. We hit the rental car drop-off at 8:30am today, then I was off to work at The Jazz Kitchen from there. I promise to post what happened after I get home from the club tomorrow night, as I can barely type right now. What an incredible night, as well as a fabulous dinner beforehand meeting the fellow jmdl folks. Although I'm the / was (hee, hee) The Ultimate Lurker, everyone at dinner welcomed the two of us with open arms. Les, please send me your mailing address to send you a jmdl donation. Not only did I find out that you live in the same town in Colorado as BIll's sister and her family, we seemed to have sat in your ridiculously FABULOUS seats for Tuesday's concert. OXOXOXOXOXOXO. I think the last time we emailed back and forth was when I had the mystery date of a Joni article from the 80's. :) And I think I may owe Paz my first born as well. Not that at almost 52 yrs. old that's gonna happen... Geez, I gotta hit the hay. I'm delirious. More tomorrow! LuAnn www.billlancton.com/luann ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:38:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Joni tribute report My Joni report - long, maybe overdue, but possibly overload. Save it for later, or delete it without reading, because I'll never know! BEFORE THE SHOW My Luminato night began with a dinner at Sambuca's restaurant on Church Street, along with fellow jmdlers and their spouses or families. There were sixteen of us altogether, including John Calimee and Richard from Chicago; Lu and Bill Lancton from Indianapolis; Rache and her mum Karen from Kitchener and Hamilton; Michael O and Rene from Quebec City; Patti Parlette from Connecticut; Jody Johnson from New Hampshire; Sue Tierney from Ithaca, NY; and Pat Moseley, Anne Madden, my kids Sarah and Matthew and me, all from Toronto. My kids didn't come to the show itself but went home after, since neither is really anywhere close to appreciating Joni as I do (and I honestly couldn't afford the extra costs anyway, and neither of them is employed at the moment. Even though I offered last-minutish to get them tickets, since there were a few cheap ones in the gallery remaining a week or so before the show, they both declined, and they were really in it only for a free dinner out and a change to meet my Joni-friends.) We then made our separate ways on foot or by car to Massey Hall. I waited with Bill and Lu in a very LOOOOONNG line to pick up tickets and to get information for Sue T and me on how and where to access the after-party. Luminato fell down on that part, because I've never seen such a huge on-call line anywhere before. It might have to do with the fact that many people seem to wait until almost the last minute to buy tickets and then to show up at a venue, but several people waiting in line with us said that this seems to happen a lot with Luminato and/or Massey Hall. That has never been an issue for me before, since I've always either had tickets mailed to me, or else printed them directly. But printing them yourself wasn't an option this time and Luminato was very slow at mailing out tickets, to the point where some people who had asked to have them mailed didn't receive them on time. As a result, the show started a bit late, in order to get everyone in on time and people from Massey and Luminato came down the queue to let us know, so we didn't get anxious and start a riot. I had barely made it to my seat when Jorn Weisbrod came on to give a (thankfully) very short speech thanking the sponsors, which is a requirement when big money is sponsoring an event, and then the lights dimmed and the show began. THE SHOW The show opener was a mostly a capella version of "The Fiddle and the Drum" by Lizz Wright. She is someone I had never even heard of before, but I was an instant fan. She is gorgeous to look at, wearing a lacy mostly white dress and bare feet. She has a voice like melting chocolate and holds you in the palm of her hand as she takes you along a magical path of song. She is focussed and intense but also gentle and uses her hands and arms and body language to accompany herself as she sings. Next up was Glen Hansard with "Coyote." I was already a fan of his before knowing he was also a Joni-interpreter, so I will tell you right now that both he and Lizz Wright were my very favourites of the night, both in their wonderful interpretations and in their choice of material. If you don't believe a straight man can sing "Coyote" and make you believe it, then you haven't heard Glen Hansard! Following Glen was Kathleen Edwards with "You turn me on, I'm a radio," which she sang as, "You turn me on, like a radio." I have no problem with that, since it makes sense to me. I do like Kathleen but this wasn't, in my opinion, her best song ever. I can only imagine how daunting it must be to sing Joni in front of the Queen herself, when you might be perceived as another "girl with a guitar," especially when you are a girl with a guitar, and maybe if the arrangement had been a bit different, then it might have been Kathleen's very own version, and I also think it might be difficult to change the arrangement too much, since it is supposed to be "a country station, a little bit corny." Then came Liam Titcomb with his version of "If." I'm sure that he is not a well-known name, even in Canada, but I did enjoy his cover of "If" and think that he was the bravest of all to cover such a recent song that many people might not be familiar with. Next on stage was Cold Specks, also known as Al Spx, which is not her real name either. She says, of her name, "[It's] the only name I'm willing to give out because it's absolutely ridiculous." (http://www.interviewmagazine.com/music/discovery-cold-specks/) She began with a cover of "Black Crow" and my immediate first thought was, "This is really weird," which then transformed into, "This is really weird... and I like it!" She describes her singing style as "doom soul," and that is a perfect way to phrase it. Kathleen Edwards then returned to do "Big Yellow Taxi" as an audience singalong, explaining somewhat apologetically that this had been a last-minute addition to the concert. We all sang along with the chorus and the "Shoo-bop-bops" or "Ooo-ba-bas" or however anyone wanted to sing it. Then the magnificent Lizz Wright returned with both "Shades of Scarlet conquering" and "The wolf that lives in Lindsey," the latter accompanied with flappy-string guitar by Marvin Sewell and beatnik-thumpy bongos and all by Jeff Haynes, and wolf-calls by invisible wolves. Along came Rufus Wainwright, looking a bit like Elvis in sequined black tight pants, a black cowboy shirt, a silver sequined tie and sunglasses. He said that his mother, Kate McGarrigle, "being human" was always jealous of Joni and that, as a result, she didn't get played in their house. He then launched into a joyful version of "All I want," followed by a soulful, "A case of you," proving that Joni's songs are universal, whether you're male or female, gay or straight. Then, my boyfriend (but only if I were Jocasta and he Oedipus, which could only end tragically) Glen Hansard returned with "The Boho Dance." (Did I mention how much I love Glen Hansard?) Kathleen Edwards was up next with one of my all-time favourite songs, "Cold blue steel and sweet fire." She really didn't need to bring her guitar, since she didn't play it on this song, so I'm guessing she might be one of those performers who feels naked without a prop of some kind. Too bad if so, because, even though I get that, she is a lovely lady with a lovely voice and she doesn't need to hide. Glen Hansard came back on with his cover of "Carey," proving once again that a straight man can sing a song about some guy, and make us believe him. Rufus Wainwright returned with a joyous and raucous cover of "Free man in Paris," and then a more sombre and mostly a capella, with minor instrumental additions at appropriate moments, "Slouching toward Bethlehem," that he said he wanted to sing as a "Scottish folk song." Then a brief intermission, and Act II began. Lizz Wright came back on stage to sing "Jericho". So many of the song choices for all of these artists were perfect and I was so happy to see some of the not-quite-as-well-known songs covered along with the obvious hits. "Jericho" was a big hit for me. From where we were seated, we could see Joni in the audience. She was sitting on an aisle seat about eight rows back on the centre-left, with Kenny Hotz and Kilauren next to her. Kenny accompanied her in and out at appropriate times just after or just before the show started, so that it was dark and the audience was less likely to notice her. I could see (through my camera lens) that she was obviously enjoying herself, as she moved her hands to the rhythms or mouthed the words, or smiled or laughed.) After "Jericho," the Lady herself came on stage to thank everyone and to say that she wanted to recant what she had said earlier in interviews about "honour dying in World War II." She praised the performers and talked about how she had been in British Columbia during a period when it never seemed to stop raining (which is fairly typical for B.C.), then treated us to her poem-to-music "This rain, this rain," based on the writings of Emily Carr. We were happy just to hear that, but then Joni, after saying she wasn't sure whether she could sing or not anymore and that she had maybe four or five notes left in her singing voice, gave us a story of how she had gone around trying to flirt with police officers to get their badges. In Memphis, one officer wouldn't give her his badge, but did take her down to old Memphis where she met Furry Lewis. She then began to sing "Furry sings the blues" in her now limited-range but still emotionally powerful voice. Not just a poem and one song though! She then went on to sing "Don't interrupt the sorrow" and then, with the rest of the night's singers, "Woodstock." Despite the audience's clapping for Joni to do an encore, there were to be no more songs that night, although Joni did come back to take another bow, and to thank us all with a great big smile on her face. I do hope that she heard "Happy birthday" being sung to her, instigated, so I'm told, by our own Michael O'Malley. AFTER THE SHOW Sue T and I made our way down to the basement where the bar is and my name was on the list for jonimitchell.com (YAY! and thanks to Les for being so thorough), so in we went. A few minutes later, Patti Parlette and Jody Johnson showed up, since Patti was given access through Lisa, the editor for "Gathered Light." So, it was four of us ladies of the canyon hoping to catch a glimpse of Joni, but afraid she wouldn't show. Which, as it happens, she did not. Sue and I did speak to Liam Titcomb and Rufus Wainwright, as well as with Jon Cowherd, keyboardist for the band, and Marvin Sewell, guitarist. We also saw, but didn't get a chance to speak to Kathleen Edwards and Christopher "CT" Thomas, the bass player, who left soon after with his wife or girlfriend. We also saw Kilauren and Marlin and Brad McMath. We weren't sure if Daisy was there or not and decided not to approach Kilauren since she was pretty busy with other people and since we wanted to keep it about the music and not about things that are really not our business, thinking that we wouldn't want complete strangers to walk up to us and ask us personal things. We did think of many inappropriate questions that we would never dare to ask anyone, but were fun to think up anyway. Sue has already mentioned that Marvin Sewell said that he often uses the guitar pages on jonimitchell.com to find guitar tunings and so on, so chalk one up for jonimitchell.com and the people, including Sue, who created it and who keep it going. After enough time had passed and the crowd was thinning and we had had our fill of free drinks and hors d'oeuvres and I had scooped up all the free capos (yellow with SunLife Financial inscribed on them) I could, it became obvious that Joni wouldn't show, despite our best hopes. And, while we were talking to Rufus Wainwright, Jorn Weisbrod came and said to him that he was "going up" to see Joni. Soon after, all four of us left and joined our friends Anne and Pat who were hanging out at Fran's Restaurant across the street, loading up on caffeine. And now it's over! THE SET LIST FIRST ACT: Lizz Wright: The fiddle and the drum Glen Hansard: Coyote Kathleen Edwards: You turn me on, I'm a radio Liam Titcomb: If Cold Specks (AI SPx): Black Crow Kathleen Edwards: Big Yellow Taxi, with audience Lizz Wright: Shades of Scarlett; The wolf that lives in Lindsey Rufus Wainwright: All I want; A case of you Glen Hansard: The Boho dance Kathleen Edwards: Cold Blue Steel and Sweet Fire Glen Hansard: Carey Rufus Wainwright: Free man in Paris; Slouching toward Bethlehem SECOND ACT Lizz Wright: Jericho Joni: This rain, this rain; Furry sings the blues; Don't interrupt the sorrow; Woodstock THE BAND: Brian Blade: drums/musical director Jon Cowherd: keys/musical director Ambrose Akinmusire: trumpet Melvin Butler: sax Bill Frisell: guitar Jeff Haynes: percussion Marvin Sewell: guitar Christopher "CT" Thomas: bass ARTIST'S WEBSITES: Lizz Wright:http://www.lizzwright.net/ Glen Hansard:http://www.glenhansardmusic.com/songofgoodhope/ Kathleen Edwards:http://kathleenedwards.com/ Liam Titcomb:http://www.liamtitcomb.com/#5a0/custom_plain Cold Specks:http://coldspecks.com/ and might I recommend you check out this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RR9VbmIh1Rs Rufus Wainwright: http://www.rufuswainwright.com/ Brian Blade: http://www.brianblade.com/ https://www.facebook.com/BrianBlade Jon Cowherd:http://www.joncowherd.com/ Ambrose Akinmusire:http://www.ambroseakinmusire.com/ Melvin Butler: http://melvinbutler.net/ Bill Frisell: http://www.billfrisell.com/ Jeff Haynes: http://jeffhaynesmusic.com/Home.html Marvin Sewell: http://marvinsewell.com/ Christopher "CT" Thomas, bass:I couldn't find a web page that was his, but he is a member of the Brian Blade Fellowship, as are Melvin Butler and Jon Cowherd. Thanks to Curtis Ray Smith on Youtube for his help (unbeknownst to him) with my remembering the set list and who sang what! http://youtu.be/-VluSIQsCOE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 07:57:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Collage of Joni tribute photos from Luminato, Tuesday, June 18 There's also an HD version, if that helps anyone: http://youtu.be/-VluSIQsCOE - ----- Original Message ----- > From: Catherine McKay > To: JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST > Cc: > Sent: Friday, June 21, 2013 10:56:11 AM > Subject: Collage of Joni tribute photos from Luminato, Tuesday, June 18 > > > > Someone named Curtis Ray Smith has posted on Youtube a collage of photos from > Tuesday's Luminato performance that shows photos of the various artists and > what they sang, and also includes the names of band members. This is set to > Joni's Hejira version of "Black Crow." > > Well done, Curtis, wherever you are! > > http://youtu.be/JBwYUnx4uTs ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 17:31:50 +0000 (UTC) From: johncalimee@frontier.com Subject: Re: This rain. Hi Jamie, Assuming her health continues to progress to a better place, I'm certain you will hear "This Rain" as a song. In fact, it is already half way in song form since the musicians behind her ran with a concrete score. Although if this score wasn't written by her, I'm sure she would lift it or stretch it to make it her own. What we have here is very much in keeping with other songs she's written. Lead Balloon started a brief riff of a few chord progressions. 'If' absolutely started as a poem. And we know her ability to weave a melody to the written word is off the charts spectacular. As witnessed by Yvette in English, among countless others. Then we have her own comments during the Luminato Interview where she says the words NEED melody because singing would allow her to put a kind of emphasis on certain words, and in the right place. And because of that she said she might try to sing a bit of it to achieve that effect. So certainly I think she looks at this as a song in its formative state. On Tuesday she had a more energy for the thing, I think because she was determined not to bomb. The drama of the first night was more clearly defined by her. And she took the daring to scat something. Very much like where we got a glimpse of Joni's creative process with Two Grey Rooms. I believe the same to be true of the 'poem' she's written about her mother. Given Joni's long time feelings about poetry I don't think she's keen on doing 'stand alone' prose. And I also have a feeling that when she does write a song/music/melody, whatever, she's not the type to let it sit unused. Just as she did not let One Week Last Summer simmer in a vault. So if she's health, and that's a big if, I think Brian Blade and company will not let her fade away beneath some pool table. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2013 09:02:47 -0500 From: Laura Stanley Subject: Joni's voice and sinuses Joni said a sinus problem has contributed to her voice problem. Acid reflux at night can aggravate the sinuses and cause chronic sinus problems if not treated with a proton pump inhibitor and dietary/lifestyle changes. Acid reflux is hell on a singing voice. The voice becomes unpredictable because of sinus drainage and effects on the vagus nerve that can sporadically stop movement of the laryngeal muscles altogether. It can also cause heart arrhythmia's due to the vasovagal reflex. Singers sometimes use lemon juice to stimulate the salivary glands to produce a watery secretion rather than a mucus secretion. Citric acid in citrus fruits can cause worse acid reflux so it isn't helpful in that case. What can be more helpful is an anti-histamine nasal spray used the night before singing together with use of a proton pump inhibitor like Omiprazole or even better, Nexium. Hope this info is useful to all you singers out there. Acid reflux doesn't always cause heart burn pain but can manifest as chronic sinus problems, arrhythmia's, and not feeling rested in the morning. Doctors can miss it. Love, Laura Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 20 Jun 2013 19:07:51 -0400 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: VIDEO UPDATE Longer Fury Sings The Blues @Massey Hall Oh yea. She sounds wonderful! I just checked into my hotel in Gatiineau, Quebec and lo and behold here is a Globe with a pic of Joni on the front page and a review of the show inside. I will scan and send this to you when I get home Les. Did anyone tape Don't Interrupt the Sorrow? Love Paz Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com On Jun 20, 2013, at 12:51 AM, est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: Here's a longer version and close-up of Joni singing Fury Sings The Blues @ Massey Hall last night. Unfortunately the end is still cut off.....but it's 2 minutes longer than the original posted video and GREAT close-up of Joni that the other video lacked. http://jonimitchell.com/library/video.cfm?id=341 More Joni to enjoy! Laura *********FREEBIE*********** McDonalds Quarter Pounder BOGO - 6/18-6/20 From June 18th through 20th, 'Participating' McDonald's will be offering any of the Three NEW Quarter Pounder Burgers for Buy One, Get One FREE! The Bacon Habanero Ranch, Bacon and Cheese, & Deluxe Quarter Pounder. No coupon needed. 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