From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #195 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, May 31 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 195 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this [Anita G ] Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. ["Randy Remote" ] Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. [Moni Kellermann ] Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. [Michael Paz Subject: Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this Great story, David. Get after those demos! What a find that would be... Anita On 31/05/2013, David Marine wrote: > Hey List, > > Back in the 90s I had friends who worked at A&M, one of whom worked the > night shift in the recording studios. It was always open into the late, late > hours, and I would visit him frequently. It was a beautiful suite of > studios, done in warm earth tones, and always welcoming (friendly people, > fresh coffee, great snacks, etc.). I loved hanging out there. The magic was > palpable; you could feel the history. I even met Stevie Wonder one night > around 3 a.m.! > > My friend swore that there were Hejira demos somewhere in the on-site > vaults, but he never did produce them for me. I hope they weren't > trashed... > > David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 14:57:08 -0700 From: "Randy Remote" Subject: Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. Wow, I always thought it sounded like a black piano :) If you go to mixonline.com and search "Joni Mitchell" a bunch of stuff comes up. Most are just asides and mentions, but there is stuff about Herbie's "River" tribute, a Klein interview and more. It would be nice as Mr. Muller says, to know more about her sessions from a technical viewpoint. Regarding her mic of choice, two references. It doesn't specifically say that the Telefunken was used as a vocal mic. I'm kind of assuming that's what was meant. I picked out a few references from the site. Lewy always liked to use a U87 on Joni Mitchells lead vocal; http://mixonline.com/recording/tracking/classic_tracks_stephen_bishop_on_on//index1.html Toni Fishman of Telefunken USA recognized this and decided to develop a reissue. His business first developed identical replacement parts for vintage 251s. A chance meeting with Allen Sides in Nashville resulted in Sides telling Fishman that there was one particular mic in his collection of more than 20 vintage 251s that was consistently used by Joni Mitchell for many of her classic recordings. http://mixonline.com/products/review/audio_telefunken_ela/ John Shanks on Henson Studios Studio C: for the most part, Studio C is a very small environment. It's where Joni Mitchell's Blue and Carole King's Tapestry were done. It's a very small live room, small control room, so it's great for a more controlled environment when you're writing and recording songs because you can focus on each aspect of the recording process. http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_john_shanks_midas/ Klein on recording with Joni and Iron Eyes Cody: http://mixonline.com/recording/interviews/audio_larry_klein_doing/ Stephen Barncard on recording David Crosby's "Laughing": Barncard kept each vocal stack on a separate track. By the time Mitchell's small but still important vocal contribution to the song's bridge was recorded late in the process, Barncard had run out of free tracks, so I punched in Joni's double of In the sun on one of Phil [Lesh]'s two bass tracks for the duration of her part and compensated the level during the mix. http://mixonline.com/mag/audio_david_crosbys_laughing/ From: "Dave Blackburn" Subject: Techie geeks, you'll like this. > This was a post I discovered on the Gearslutz forum > done, never did have a tube console, the rooms Joni worked in had Haeco > consoles hand built by Howard Holzer and Beno May. The recordings after > "Don Juan's reckless daughter" were done on an API 32/16/24 in either > studo b or c at A&M. These Records were made with Henry Lewy until the > recording of "Dog eat Dog" which was done other places including her home > studio. > The piano that was used was a 7 foot 1903 Steinway which was a reddish > brown color and used on all the Joni sessions as well as Carol King > "Tapestry" and many other classic records. > Vocals were always recorded the same way, Neumann u87 into the console > with an urei 1176 comp, and at A&M there was a mic locker with 48 U87's. > Joni's reserved one was #8.... Karen Carpenter always had #10 reserved.> ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 03:26:35 -0400 From: David Marine Subject: Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this Hey List, Back in the 90s I had friends who worked at A&M, one of whom worked the night shift in the recording studios. It was always open into the late, late hours, and I would visit him frequently. It was a beautiful suite of studios, done in warm earth tones, and always welcoming (friendly people, fresh coffee, great snacks, etc.). I loved hanging out there. The magic was palpable; you could feel the history. I even met Stevie Wonder one night around 3 a.m.! My friend swore that there were Hejira demos somewhere in the on-site vaults, but he never did produce them for me. I hope they weren't trashed... David ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 11:25:52 +0000 From: Michael quebec Subject: Re: CBC on Joni Thanks for that piece, Dave. Well done. Michael in Quebec ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 12:49:07 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. Though no specific Joni mentions this might interest some to see the rooms where Joni recorded, now very remodeled of course: http://www.amstudios.net/ It was originally bought by Charlie Chaplin to be his personal creative center and housed two sound stages. In 1968 Herb Alpert and Jerry Moss formed A&M and bought the property. Sergio Mendes and Brasil 66 were the first artists to record there. It is now called Henson Studios http://www.hensonrecording.com/studioa.html and I just last week had the pleasure of mastering a CD recorded there. If I unearth more specific Joni related studio facts I'll post them. Dave On May 30, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Anita wrote: > Her sessions, however are basically fresh ground >> except for the details she has slipped (crickets, cigarette machines etc. > Bob > > What a great idea for research! Someone should certainly see this as an angle. It would be great to hear from the engineers and I'd love to hear more about what went on during the recording of DED. I wondered also what happened to that 1903 piano? Is there any clue about that, Dave? > Anita ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 17:39:26 +0200 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. In her book "A Natural Woman" Carole King writes about the studio, Joni and that Steinway piano: http://goo.gl/L4zVT (page from book in image format at Google Books) book: http://www.amazon.com/A-Natural-Woman-Memoir/dp/B00CNKQ67Q/ref=nosim/cagnlace00/ moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 06:42:55 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. Loved this. Thanks for sharing! Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com The Paz Group Audio/Video/Lighting Design & Installation Complete Event Production Services Artist, Tour, and Production Management michael@thepazgroup.com Contact-504-382-0343 Home Office-985-764-0395 On May 29, 2013, at 11:45 PM, Corey Blake wrote: A lot of the tech stuff goes over my head but what I do understand is fascinating. Thanks for this! On May 29, 2013, at 8:31 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > This was a post I discovered on the Gearslutz forum > > The piano that was used was a 7 foot 1903 Steinway which was a reddish brown color and used on all the Joni sessions as well as Carol King "Tapestry" and many other classic records. > Vocals were always recorded the same way, Neumann u87 into the console with an urei 1176 comp, and at A&M there was a mic locker with 48 U87's. Joni's reserved one was #8.... Karen Carpenter always had #10 reserved.> > > So little is known about Joni's sessions, since it was usually just her and Henry Lewy, that I found this level of detail quite revealing. She played the same piano as was used on Tapestry, always used the same signal path for her voice and the same exact mic with her name on it. > > Love this stuff :-) > > Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:33:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Luminato events, Joni-related and other Events in Toronto in the time around Luminato. Many of the events for both NXNE and Luminato are free events. Just thought I'd pass these on for anyone who's coming for the Joni event. The Joni-related events: Sunday, June 16 - - 6:00-7:30 p.m. Times Talks - Joni Mitchell and Brian Blade in conversation with Jon Pareles of the New York Times (tickets $35) http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/timestalks-Joni-Mitchell-and-Brian-Bl ade Monday, June 17 - 12 noon - 115 p.m. Lunchtime illumination - Nicholas Jennings, Murray McLauchlan & Sylvia Tyson - This is a free event http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/lunchtime-illuminations-yorkville Description: " It's Yorkville in the 1960s. Nicholas Jennings worked behind the counter at the Riverboat Coffeehouse where he saw some of the earliest performances of Neil Young, Bruce Cockburn, Joni Mitchell and Murray McLauchlan. He joins McLauchlan and Sylvia Tyson to talk about the era that brought to light some of the most amazing musical talents of our times. The perfect appetizer for the Joni Mitchell celebration at Massey Hall on June 18 and 19." Tuesday, June 18 and Wednesday, June 19 Joni: A portrait in song (two nights - when last I checked, there seemed to still be tickets left in the gallery) http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/joni-portrait-song More events around that time, if anyone's in Toronto. Tuesday, June 11 - Patty Griffin - Danforth Music Hall - http://thedanforth.com/ (tickets $36.50 plus service charges and I believe there are still tickets left. I have my ticket) Friday, June 14, 9:30-10:30 p.m. - The National - Yonge-Dundas Square (part of North by NorthEast Festival) http://nxne.com/2013/yds-friday-june-14th/ - - This is a FREE concert Saturday, June 15 - 3:00-4:00 - Sarah Harmer - The Hub, David Pecaut Square http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/sarah-harmer - - This is a FREE concert Sunday, June 16 - 0:00-10:00 p.m. - Laurie Anderson - - The Hub at David Pecaut Square - http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/laurie-anderson - - This is a FREE concert Thursday, June 20 - 9-10 p.m. Patrick Watson, The Hub at David Pecaut Square http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/patrick-watson - - This is a FREE concert Saturday, June 22 - 9-10 p.m. Roseanne Cash, The Hub at David Pecaut Square http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/roseanne-cash - - This is a FREE concert ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 13:58:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike and Patti Haskins Subject: Re: Luminato events, Joni-related and other Oh I so wish I had the $$$ to go. You all make me so envious. Have loads of Joni fun for me. Patti Haskins ________________________________ From: Catherine McKay To: Jonilist Sent: Thu, May 30, 2013 3:46:41 PM Subject: Luminato events, Joni-related and other Events in Toronto in the time around Luminato. Many of the events for both NXNE and Luminato are free events. Just thought I'd pass these on for anyone who's coming for the Joni event. The Joni-related events: Sunday, June 16 - - 6:00-7:30 p.m. Times Talks - Joni Mitchell and Brian Blade in conversation with Jon Pareles of the New York Times (tickets $35) http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/timestalks-Joni-Mitchell-and-Brian-Bl ade Monday, June 17 - 12 noon - 115 p.m. Lunchtime illumination - Nicholas Jennings, Murray McLauchlan & Sylvia Tyson - This is a free event http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/lunchtime-illuminations-yorkville Description: " It's Yorkville in the 1960s. Nicholas Jennings worked behind the counter at the Riverboat Coffeehouse where he saw some of the earliest performances of Neil Young, Bruce Cockburn, Joni Mitchell and Murray McLauchlan. He joins McLauchlan and Sylvia Tyson to talk about the era that brought to light some of the most amazing musical talents of our times. The perfect appetizer for the Joni Mitchell celebration at Massey Hall on June 18 and 19." Tuesday, June 18 and Wednesday, June 19 Joni: A portrait in song (two nights - when last I checked, there seemed to still be tickets left in the gallery) http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/joni-portrait-song More events around that time, if anyone's in Toronto. Tuesday, June 11 - Patty Griffin - Danforth Music Hall - http://thedanforth.com/ (tickets $36.50 plus service charges and I believe there are still tickets left. I have my ticket) Friday, June 14, 9:30-10:30 p.m. - The National - Yonge-Dundas Square (part of North by NorthEast Festival) http://nxne.com/2013/yds-friday-june-14th/ - - This is a FREE concert Saturday, June 15 - 3:00-4:00 - Sarah Harmer - The Hub, David Pecaut Square http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/sarah-harmer - - This is a FREE concert Sunday, June 16 - 0:00-10:00 p.m. - Laurie Anderson - - The Hub at David Pecaut Square - http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/laurie-anderson - - This is a FREE concert Thursday, June 20 - 9-10 p.m. Patrick Watson, The Hub at David Pecaut Square http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/patrick-watson - - This is a FREE concert Saturday, June 22 - 9-10 p.m. Roseanne Cash, The Hub at David Pecaut Square http://luminatofestival.com/events/2013/roseanne-cash - - This is a FREE concert ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #195 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe