From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #193 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, May 30 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 193 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Covers 86 [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Luminato Package Deal for Visa =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Infinite=AE_card?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_holders?= [est] Re: Joni Luminato taking shape [Catherine McKay ] Judy Collins article, Montreal Gazette, sjc [Catherine McKay ] Techie geeks, you'll like this. [Dave Blackburn ] Joni Luminato taking shape [Michael quebec ] Re: Covers 86 [Catherine McKay ] CBC on Joni [Les Irvin ] Ontario Residents can WIN tickets to see Joni +After Party Invites! [est8] Another Contest for Joni Tickets - TWEET 2 WIN [est86mlm@ameritech.net] CBC on Joni [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] New Library item: Joni Mitchell to attend Luminato Festival in Toronto in June [TheStaff@JoniMitch] Re: CBC on Joni [Dave Blackburn ] Re: CBC on Joni [Anita G ] Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. [Corey Blake ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 08:11:42 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: Covers 86 Thanks for that, Michel...yeah, I'm not sure where they got "feathered crayons" from, I know that I personally have never seen one. Just the thought of a crayon with feathers scares the bejesus out of me to be honest. There's no telling how many different variations there are on those first couple of lines..."bows and rows", "swirls and curls", "ouers and pluers" (yes someone really sings this...WTF?) And I'm also with you on Slouching...besides it being a deep track, I typically lead off each volume with a track that I think everyone will like, sorta like in the old days when you sequenced an album so that first song is a real grabber and keeps you listening. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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Following the concert cardholders will be escorted to an exclusive artist meet and greet with participating performers. . A ticket to attend, TimesTalks Luminato: Joni Mitchell on Sunday, June 16, 2013 . A copy of the new book Gathered Light: The Poetry Of Joni Mitchell's Songs, Edited By Lisa Sornberger Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 16:35:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni Luminato taking shape The only thing I'm disappointed about is that it sounds like Herbie Hancock and Esperanza Spalding will only be at the concert on Wednesday, June 19 and it looks like most of us have bought tickets for Tuesday the 18th. I do hope someone will represent us on the 19th. >________________________________ > From: Michael quebec >To: "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 7:19:08 PM >Subject: Joni Luminato taking shape > > >Wow, this is going to be a LOVEFEST ! > >look who's comin so far ... >Joni Mitchell will also attend the world premiere of JONI: A PORTRAIT IN SONG >- A BIRTHDAY HAPPENING LIVE AT MASSEY HALL >, a celebration of her artistry and >her upcoming 70th birthday >on Tuesday, June 18 and Wednesday, June 19. New >additions to the >all-star lineup of musicians and vocalists interpreting the >songs of >this brilliantly original artist include American jazz/R&B singer >and composer Lizz Wright and singer-songwriter and musician Kathleen Edwards >joining the previously announced line-up of multiple Grammy Award-winner Chaka >Khan; Grammy, Tony and Academy Award-winner Glen Hansard (Once); and acclaimed >singer/songwriter and Festival fave, Rufus Wainwright. In addition, musician >and actor Liam Titcomb >and singer-songwriter Cold Specks will each perform >one song on each evening; and Grammy Award-winning jazz bassist and singer >Esperanza Spalding and 14-time Grammy Award-winning icon Herbie Hancock >(River: The Joni Letters) will both perform June 19. > >Michael in Quebec ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 04:46:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Judy Collins article, Montreal Gazette, sjc There's a scant Joni mention in the article linked below. See first two paragraphs for that. Further on, Judy's comments on the music industry and why she created her own label sound similar to Joni's: http://www.montrealgazette.com/entertainment/music/Judy+Collins+Blue+eyes+wide+open/8440395/story.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 12:01:41 +0000 From: Michel BYRNE Subject: RE: Covers 86 Thanks yet again Bob! For me the standout track is 'Slouching'-- ok, the vocal maybe lacks bite, but the arrangement kicks ass. I also enjoyed the 'feathered crayons' of Whirimako Black's BSN in your last compilation. :) Michel > Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 03:00:17 -0400 > From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org > To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #190 > > onlyJMDL Digest Sunday, May 26 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 190 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Joni Covers, Retro Volume 86 [Bob Muller ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sat, 25 May 2013 08:20:45 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bob Muller > Subject: Joni Covers, Retro Volume 86 > > Happy weekend, everyone - a gorgeous day here and the outdoors beckons. But > before I get with that I'll send another batch of snazzy jazzy Joni covers out > into the cyberworld for you. This one is semi-dominated by Iris Koch & Werner > Therandt, but their song choices are great - 9 tracks and nary a BSN or BYT in > the bunch; Sue, another Nathan La Franeer PLUS a track from Ithacapella, just > for you. And speaking of deep tracks, we'll kick it off with a cover of > Slouching, 1 of only 2 recorded so far. > > Hope you all have a peaceful, fun > and safe weekend. > > http://goo.gl/jFghI > > 1. Angelina Josephine - Slouching > Towards Bethlehem > 2. Mark Murphy - Both Sides Now > 3. Ithacapella - Big Yellow > Taxi > 4. Iris Koch & Werner Therandt - You Turn Me On, I'm A Radio > 5. Iris Koch > & Werner Therandt - Woodstock > 6. Iris Koch & Werner Therandt - Marcie > 7. Iris > Koch & Werner Therandt - Cactus Tree > 8. Iris Koch & Werner Therandt - Real > Good For Free > 9. Iris Koch & Werner Therandt - All I Really Want Our Love To > Do > 10. Iris Koch & Werner Therandt - Nathan La Franeer > 11. Iris Koch & Werner > Therandt - For The Roses > 12. Iris Koch & Werner Therandt - Rainy Night House > 13. Jack Pezanelli - Both Sides Now > 14. Maine Steiners - Big Yellow Taxi > 15. > Dermot Hegarty - The Circle Game > 16. The English Group - Woodstock > 17. Sarah > Pedinotti - A Case Of You > 18. We Together - Both Sides Now > 19. Cinda Tilgner - > The Circle Game > 20. Allagash - Big Yellow Taxi > 21. Allagash - You Turn Me On, > I'm A Radio > > 21 songs, 21 hits! Enjoy. > > Bob > > ------------------------------ > > End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #190 > ********************************* > > ------- > Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 20:31:57 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Techie geeks, you'll like this. This was a post I discovered on the Gearslutz forum So little is known about Joni's sessions, since it was usually just her and Henry Lewy, that I found this level of detail quite revealing. She played the same piano as was used on Tapestry, always used the same signal path for her voice and the same exact mic with her name on it. Love this stuff :-) Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 23:19:08 +0000 From: Michael quebec Subject: Joni Luminato taking shape Wow, this is going to be a LOVEFEST ! look who's comin so far ... Joni Mitchell will also attend the world premiere of JONI: A PORTRAIT IN SONG - - A BIRTHDAY HAPPENING LIVE AT MASSEY HALL , a celebration of her artistry and her upcoming 70th birthday on Tuesday, June 18 and Wednesday, June 19. New additions to the all-star lineup of musicians and vocalists interpreting the songs of this brilliantly original artist include American jazz/R&B singer and composer Lizz Wright and singer-songwriter and musician Kathleen Edwards joining the previously announced line-up of multiple Grammy Award-winner Chaka Khan; Grammy, Tony and Academy Award-winner Glen Hansard (Once); and acclaimed singer/songwriter and Festival fave, Rufus Wainwright. In addition, musician and actor Liam Titcomb and singer-songwriter Cold Specks will each perform one song on each evening; and Grammy Award-winning jazz bassist and singer Esperanza Spalding and 14-time Grammy Award-winning icon Herbie Hancock (River: The Joni Letters) will both perform June 19. Michael in Quebec ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 06:05:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Covers 86 "Ouers and pluers". Sounds like something the Muppets' Swedish chef might say. And speaking of the Swedish chef, here's the website in "Swedish chef" dialect: http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/dialectp.cgi?dialect=bork&url=http%3A%2F%2Fjonimitchell.com >________________________________ > > > >There's no telling how many different variations there are on those first >couple of lines..."bows and rows", "swirls and curls", "ouers and pluers" >(yes someone really sings this...WTF?) > >... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 11:30:53 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: CBC on Joni A producer from CBC Radio is doing some research on a documentary about Joni. He is "...really trying to get something that focuses somewhat more on her songs and relates them to her life and outlook. Even if there's an extensive article - that would certainly help the cause. If anything else comes to mind, feel free to suggest." Anyone have any suggestions for a good article from the Library to point him to? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 21:48:31 -0500 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Ontario Residents can WIN tickets to see Joni +After Party Invites! The Contest is open to all residents of Ontario who have attained the age of 18, http://woobox.com/xgtx9c* and http://www.jazz.fm/index.php/on-air-mainmenu/contests-mainmenu-59/8238-whats-your-joni-moment * *Alternatively, entrants may enter via www.jazz.fm . Entrants from both sites will be entered into the draw. The Contest begins at 9:00am ET/May 28, 2013 and ends at 9:00am ET/June 7, 2013. Jazz FM91 will also conduct an on-air contest from May 28 to May 31, 2013, where five winners will each receive a pair of tickets to the Joni Mitchell Tribute Concert at Massey Hall on June 19, 2013. These five (5) Jazz FM winners will also be added into the entries for the Grand Prize draw. What's Your Joni Moment?* Tell us, and you could win an exclusive experience* at Joni: A Portrait in Song -- A Birthday Happening Live at Massey Hall.* With tribute performances by: Chaka Khan, Rufus Wainwright,Glen Hansard, Lizz Wright, Liam Titcomb and others* *_*One lucky Grand Prize winner and their guest will receive*_*:* . 2 front row tickets for the Joni Mitchell tribute concert at Massey Hall on June 18 . 2 invites to the invite-only After Party . Sound check access at Massey Hall . Transportation to/from Toronto with one night's stay at the Sheraton Downtown Centre Hotel . Joni Mitchell CD catalogue courtesy of Warner Music Canada . /Gathered Light/ - a book of poetry about Joni Mitchell's songs courtesy of Three O'Clock Press _*Three Secondary Prize winners will each receive*_*:* . 2 tickets to the concert . A copy of /Gathered Light/ Rules: http://wonderlist.thestar.ca/html/wl_20130528_luminato/20130528_luminato_jazz_rules.html What a dream sweepstakes! Hope a JMDL'r wins! Laura ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 21:59:27 -0500 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Another Contest for Joni Tickets - TWEET 2 WIN Another Contest based out of Toronto/Montreal. I don't know if you have to actually live here to win the tickets. Laura ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ We have tickets to give away to Joni: A Portrait in Song! To win, tweet "Dear @shedoesthecity please send me to Joni: A Portrait in Song @MasseyHall for @Luminato #bothsidesnow ". http://www.shedoesthecity.com/win-tickets-to-joni-a-portrait-in-song-at-luminato ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 22:18:49 -0400 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: CBC on Joni I have many thoughts on this. Can I turn it in this weekend or does the producer need it tonight? Are they ready to learn something or do they just want to retread "Help Me" and "Both Sides Now"? Jim (itching to write but I have to work in the morning) Les Irvin >A producer from CBC Radio is doing some research on a documentary about Joni. He is "...really trying to get something that focuses somewhat more on her songs and relates them to her life and outlook. Even if there's an extensive article - that would certainly help the cause. If anything else comes to mind, feel free to suggest." Anyone have any suggestions for a good article from the Library to point him to?> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 15:35:24 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Joni Mitchell to attend Luminato Festival in Toronto in June Title: Joni Mitchell to attend Luminato Festival in Toronto in June Publication: Toronto Star Date: 2013.5.28 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2585 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 07:28:51 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: CBC on Joni Jim, that's kind that you nominate me. Writing about Joni's exploration of chords is something I could an probably would undertake but the topic has been rather exhaustively analyzed in the Lloyd Whitesell book "The Music of Joni Mitchell" and, as I remember when that book came out, the topic was a slog for most readers if they were not already players. I know Michele Mercer is on the Facebook JMDL, and very possibly here also, so she would be an excellent person to write a piece, having published books on both Joni and Wayne Shorter. But, since you have me thinking about it, here's what I believe was fresh and original about Joni's harmonic language (though she actually had two: a guitar language and a piano language): her deep roots in painting was what led her to try and find the appropriate palette of musical colors to reinforce or support what her poetry explored. That in itself is more arduous than many musicians are prepared to do. Musicians typically rely on what they know; if you're from the acoustic "folkey" world you tend to make songs from the small group of chords and melodic lines that are easy to pull off and that fit together usefully if conventionally. Jazz musicians tend towards their own "comfort zone", although their harmony often derives from more study of theory and knowledge of the work of great composers that went before: Ravel, Ellington, etc. The cycle of fifths still mostly prevails and they employ rich voicings deriving from various "schools": the Bill Evans school, the Herbie Hancock or Chick Corea school, the Monk school, etc. Joni was drawn to some of those rich voicings and shades of color that she heard jazz musicians use but she had no training in how they did it. So she made it up, in lieu of studying music the way most of us would. Her need for emotional tension and release in her music led her to try and figure out ways of obtaining those sounds from the guitar and piano without actually studying those instruments. She was confident enough in herself to just go it alone, which for her meant designing fresh tunings for each song, until she had found what she needed, a very strange direction to take for her contemporaries; as James Taylor says, she designed the canvas as well as the painting. Her piano writing of course couldn't involve changing the tunings and she had only rudimentary technique, but she had a fresh angle there too, especially with form, culminating in her most advanced compositions such as Paprika Plains and Down to You. Over time she created her own idiosyncratic pathways, her own conventions. Those of us who play her music on guitar know that she used only a small set of hand shapes but altered the tunings to make the chords fresh each time; that's really a bizarre way to do it! Anyone else would learn new chord shapes since you can play probably 10,000 chords on the guitar in standard tuning, some of them very lush and rich. She began to repeat herself eventually - by the time of Night Ride Home or Turbulent Indigo she was writing with pretty non exploratory harmony, letting the 90's production techniques of the studio provide the lushness she used to have to get from the chords alone. As Joni has said, her music never really was jazz, but it contained much that jazz musicians could relate to; lush color, dissonance, freedom, chromaticism; they were the obvious musicians for her to use, as a result. She also identified with the maverick nature of Miles Davis in particular, making her own parallel with his refusal to stay in one direction for long. Dave p.s I might as well mention again the Mutts will be presenting the whole of Hejira in concert on Nov 9th in San Diego to celebrate Joni's 70th birthday. Speaking of yummy guitar chords Should you come? Of course you should. On May 28, 2013, at 9:00 PM, Jim L'Hommedieu wrote: > > I'm really not qualified to discuss her Jazz influence, although I feel that connection is the deepest. Is there a jazzer here, willing to flesh that out? > > Dave Blackburn? I know you can write. Would you feel comfortable with writing about Joni's background/muse/legacy? The unusual intervals inside her chords are something I would love to read about. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 19:19:38 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re: CBC on Joni Les, it looks to me like the CBC producer would certainly gain a lot from every word Dave has written here and for someone who understands Joni's music and has an ability to translate it in so many ways, I'm with Jim on this,Dave's the man, Anita On 29/05/2013, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Jim, that's kind that you nominate me. > > Writing about Joni's exploration of chords is something I could an probably > would undertake but the topic has been rather exhaustively analyzed in the > Lloyd Whitesell book "The Music of Joni Mitchell" and, as I remember when > that book came out, the topic was a slog for most readers if they were not > already players. I know Michele Mercer is on the Facebook JMDL, and very > possibly here also, so she would be an excellent person to write a piece, > having published books on both Joni and Wayne Shorter. > > But, since you have me thinking about it, here's what I believe was fresh > and original about Joni's harmonic language (though she actually had two: a > guitar language and a piano language): her deep roots in painting was what > led her to try and find the appropriate palette of musical colors to > reinforce or support what her poetry explored. That in itself is more > arduous than many musicians are prepared to do. Musicians typically rely on > what they know; if you're from the acoustic "folkey" world you tend to make > songs from the small group of chords and melodic lines that are easy to pull > off and that fit together usefully if conventionally. Jazz musicians tend > towards their own "comfort zone", although their harmony often derives from > more study of theory and knowledge of the work of great composers that went > before: Ravel, Ellington, etc. The cycle of fifths still mostly prevails and > they employ rich voicings deriving from various "schools": the Bill Evans > school, the Herbie ! > Hancock or Chick Corea school, the Monk school, etc. > > Joni was drawn to some of those rich voicings and shades of color that she > heard jazz musicians use but she had no training in how they did it. So she > made it up, in lieu of studying music the way most of us would. Her need for > emotional tension and release in her music led her to try and figure out > ways of obtaining those sounds from the guitar and piano without actually > studying those instruments. She was confident enough in herself to just go > it alone, which for her meant designing fresh tunings for each song, until > she had found what she needed, a very strange direction to take for her > contemporaries; as James Taylor says, she designed the canvas as well as the > painting. Her piano writing of course couldn't involve changing the tunings > and she had only rudimentary technique, but she had a fresh angle there too, > especially with form, culminating in her most advanced compositions such as > Paprika Plains and Down to You. > > Over time she created her own idiosyncratic pathways, her own conventions. > Those of us who play her music on guitar know that she used only a small set > of hand shapes but altered the tunings to make the chords fresh each time; > that's really a bizarre way to do it! Anyone else would learn new chord > shapes since you can play probably 10,000 chords on the guitar in standard > tuning, some of them very lush and rich. She began to repeat herself > eventually - by the time of Night Ride Home or Turbulent Indigo she was > writing with pretty non exploratory harmony, letting the 90's production > techniques of the studio provide the lushness she used to have to get from > the chords alone. > > As Joni has said, her music never really was jazz, but it contained much > that jazz musicians could relate to; lush color, dissonance, freedom, > chromaticism; they were the obvious musicians for her to use, as a result. > She also identified with the maverick nature of Miles Davis in particular, > making her own parallel with his refusal to stay in one direction for long. > > > Dave > > p.s I might as well mention again the Mutts will be presenting the whole of > Hejira in concert on Nov 9th in San Diego to celebrate Joni's 70th birthday. > Speaking of yummy guitar chords > > Should you come? Of course you should . > > > > On May 28, 2013, at 9:00 PM, Jim L'Hommedieu > wrote: > >> >> I'm really not qualified to discuss her Jazz influence, although I feel >> that connection is the deepest. Is there a jazzer here, willing to flesh >> that out? >> >> Dave Blackburn? I know you can write. Would you feel comfortable with >> writing about Joni's background/muse/legacy? The unusual intervals inside >> her chords are something I would love to read about. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 21:45:36 -0700 From: Corey Blake Subject: Re: Techie geeks, you'll like this. A lot of the tech stuff goes over my head but what I do understand is fascinating. Thanks for this! On May 29, 2013, at 8:31 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > This was a post I discovered on the Gearslutz forum > > The piano that was used was a 7 foot 1903 Steinway which was a reddish brown color and used on all the Joni sessions as well as Carol King "Tapestry" and many other classic records. > Vocals were always recorded the same way, Neumann u87 into the console with an urei 1176 comp, and at A&M there was a mic locker with 48 U87's. Joni's reserved one was #8.... Karen Carpenter always had #10 reserved.> > > So little is known about Joni's sessions, since it was usually just her and Henry Lewy, that I found this level of detail quite revealing. She played the same piano as was used on Tapestry, always used the same signal path for her voice and the same exact mic with her name on it. > > Love this stuff :-) > > Dave ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #193 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe