From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #134 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, April 9 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 134 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni in her kitchen [Lori Renee Fye ] RE: For the Roses concert review by Robert Bush, writer for the San Diego Reader ["Susan E. McNamara" ] Re: Discovering Robin Adler / Rejoining the JMDL - Ange in Oz (SJC) [Dave] Re: Discovering Robin Adler / Rejoining the JMDL - Ange in Oz (SJC) [Cath] Re: Joni in her kitchen [Catherine McKay ] Re: For the Roses concert review by Robert Bush, writer for the San Diego Reader [Bob.Muller@] Re: Joni in her kitchen [Shari Eaton ] Re: Joni in her kitchen [Kevin Foehr ] Re: Joni in her kitchen [Gerald Kent ] Joni in her kitchen + her appearance [est86mlm@ameritech.net] Re: For the Roses concert review by Robert Bush, writer for the San Diego Reader [Catherine McKay ] Re: Joni in her kitchen [Arkay Adkisson ] Re: Joni in her kitchen [Kevin Foehr ] Re: Joni in her kitchen [Kate Johnson ] Review of Ladies of the Canyon, as reissued on LP by Reprise ["Jim L'Homm] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 09:26:08 -0600 From: Lori Renee Fye Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen Wow indeed. Joni is nearly 70 years old. I think she's gorgeous. It's a beautiful photograph. Lori, now in Boise > Wow. >> Looks like all of the smoking and bitterness has caught up with Joni. She should have heeded her own words: "Happiness is the best facelift". What a shame! - -- If there are lots of typos, I'm emailing from my phone. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 19:37:34 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: For the Roses concert review by Robert Bush, writer for the San Diego Reader This review was so wonderful ... I have had the experience of chills while listening to the Mutts. I'm very sad I missed this concert!!! Waahhh! Congrats Robin, Dave and the Mutts of the Planet! Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dave Blackburn Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 2:17 PM To: JMDL JMDL Subject: For the Roses concert review by Robert Bush, writer for the San Diego Reader http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/jam-session/2013/apr/09/for-the-roses/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 12:48:56 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: For the Roses concert review by Robert Bush, writer for the San Diego Reader Not everything got recorded due to a software hang that happened behind my back while we were playing (arghh) and not everything that got recorded was (ahem) sufficiently good to present for posterity, but what I'll say is that a selection of highlights from the show will be coming at you in the next few days. We are grateful to have a critic in town that a) knows his stuff and b) actually attends the shows from beginning to end and c) gets his facts pretty correct. He is really helping get the San Diego music scene thriving again after a lull of a few years. Dave On Apr 9, 2013, at 12:35 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > So when does the recording start circulating, he said with a wry grin... > > Congrats on the 5-star review, certainly not surprised by that though. > > Bob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 11:49:53 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen On 2013-04-09, at 11:28 AM, Shari Eaton wrote: > Just want to be clear that it isn't her age but her deep sadness that seemed like a thing she would want to keep for herself. The Internet shares too much, I think. Got ya. I find that the middle-aged or older face of most people often appears sad and tired when "in repose" and by that I mean when not engaged with something, just contemplative. Then the person turns and looks at you and smiles, and they look happy and well. - -Kate b?b 1b.b?b 1b.b?b 1b. Stubblejumpin'Gal http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/blondiblathers ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 17:30:46 -0700 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Discovering Robin Adler / Rejoining the JMDL - Ange in Oz (SJC) Hello Ange and welcome back to the JMDL! And thanks for the kind words you wrote about Robin. She and I have been on this really cool journey together getting deep inside Joni's music and performing it in concert settings for the last seven years (it really doesn't work in typical live music environments like clubs and restaurants.) We have been blessed with a group of musicians that have dedicated countless hours to mastering the music and taking it to somewhere that is more our thing than hers. However, when we perform a complete album as we did last Saturday with For The Roses we do try and capture the sound and details of the record everyone knows and expects to hear. The record producer in me is always trying to remake the album in 3D with live musicians, if only for the challenge of trying to accomplish it. You have already discovered our Youtube channel which contains clips from a full length DVD of the whole of Blue and Court and Spark performed in one night's concert on Nov 6th 2011. Joni's bassist from the L.A Express Max Bennett asked if he could play with us so we put that show together with him on bass. That is available for purchase if you are interested (write us offline). And our 2010 CD Safaris to the Heart: The Songs of Joni Mitchell is available in actual form from http://www.robinadler.com/products.html or in downloadable form from iTunes or Amazon. You can hear samples of all the tunes at http://www.robinadler.com/music.html You should also look into Hennings Olsen's and Christina Friis' 3 CDs of Joni covers that are astounding; they pay particular attention to early unreleased Joni material. They went under the moniker Big Yellow Taxi. Lots of other great musicians on this list we have met through Jonifests too. cheers Dave On Apr 8, 2013, at 11:52 PM, Ange T wrote: > Hello Listers, > It has been many years since I have been part of this amazing network of > Joni-lovers and it feels good to be back. My name is Ange Takats and I live > in Australia and originally joined the list back in the late 90s - when I > learnt a hell of a lot about Joni and received some beautiful gifts / > insights from JMDLers in the USA. I even met a JMDLer who came down to Oz. > Her name was Ashara - not sure if she's still around? > > Since then I've done a lot of things... like moved to Thailand to work a > foreign correspondent ('I'm a wild seed again, Let the wind carry me') > ... moved > to Ontario to follow love ('He's my sunshine in the morning, He's my > fireworks at the end of the day') ... moved to Barcelona to nurse a broken > heart ('Things that you held high, And told yourself were true, Lost or > changing as the days come down to you') ... and, as you can sense, Joni's > songs have been with me every step of the way. > > I do recognise some of the names on the digest emails that I've been > receiving over the past two weeks which blows me away. To think that so > many of you have been part of this list for so long and no doubt grown > close to each other and shared moments of life - through this list.... > that's pretty amazing. > > Have there ever been articles published or documentaries made about the > longevity and strength of the JMDL? It seems like a great topic to explore! > > So far the highlight of rejoining the list for me has been discovering the > beautiful voice and soul of Robin Adler - WOW! I'm so fussy - as I imagine > most of you are - about Joni covers... but after reading about Robin's > recent gig in San Diego I started googling her name and found a whole bunch > of awesome videos on youtube ('A Case of You' was my favourite of the > lot... exceptional performance). What a find! Thank you Lindsay for posting > info about Robin's gig - and thank you Robin for being so inspiring! > > I also want to thank Bob for answering a random email I sent him a few > months ago - which has led me back to this very special community. > > Ange in Oz > www.angetakats.com.au ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 05:16:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Discovering Robin Adler / Rejoining the JMDL - Ange in Oz (SJC) Welcome back, Ange! >________________________________ > From: Ange T >To: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 2:52:18 AM >Subject: Discovering Robin Adler / Rejoining the JMDL - Ange in Oz (SJC) > >Hello Listers, >It has been many years since I have been part of this amazing network of >Joni-lovers and it feels good to be back. My name is Ange Takats and I live >in Australia and originally joined the list back in the late 90s - when I >learnt a hell of a lot about Joni and received some beautiful gifts / >i ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 08:18:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen I don't like seeing photos of myself either. Any time, anywhere, but especially now that I'm older. I'd rather stay in some kind of denial, the denial that faces me in the mirror every day when I don't really notice how haggard I sometimes am. I found this photo pretty arty for something that was probably taken with a shitty cellphone camera. I think that's what Instagram is all about, n'est-ce pas? Don't mind me. I'm in a techno-rut, and couldn't be bothered to keep up with that stuff. anyway, Joni is 70, or nearly, and life happens. Disregard the wrinkles and the apparently sad expression. I like the shadows and light in this one and I'd prefer to see this as pensive, rather than sad. I wonder if that's beer she's drinking, or ginger ale? >________________________________ > From: Jim >To: shadows and light ; Jack Merkel >Cc: Shari Eaton ; Raffaele Malanga ; "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 10:54:09 PM >Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen > >I personally don't care for any photos of myself since I was in my 40's. But >even though I don't care for more recent pics of myself, it doesn't bother me >when others post them even though its a big reality check (darn I'm getting to >be an old fart). Fortunately, I'm able to laugh along with Father Time. >It's a great Pic Raf and thanks for sharing even though reality doesn't always >paint the same pretty picture we all have painted in our minds. > > >[...] >> >>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 7:54 AM, Raffaele Malanga > >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> >http://instagram.com/p/X1T1_ek80m/ >> >>>> >> >>>> I find this photo extremely >touching >> >>>> >> >>>> Raf. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 15:35:17 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: For the Roses concert review by Robert Bush, writer for the San Diego Reader So when does the recording start circulating, he said with a wry grin... Congrats on the 5-star review, certainly not surprised by that though. Bob From: Anita To: Dave Blackburn Cc: JMDL JMDL Date: 04/09/2013 02:48 PM Subject: Re: For the Roses concert review by Robert Bush, writer for the San Diego Reader Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org What a brilliant review, Dave! Being described as 'sublime' doesn't get any better than that! I have been reading all the discussion about Joni in the kitchen and people's perceptions and projections about the photograph. There is nothing other than sheer joy on Robin's face in the photo that accompanies the review and she looks absolutely stunning. Congratulations! Anita On 9 Apr 2013, at 19:17, Dave Blackburn wrote: > http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/jam-session/2013/apr/09/for-the-roses/ - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Kate Johnson wrote: > On 2013-04-08, at 8:54 PM, Jim wrote: > >> Fortunately, I'm able to laugh along with Father Time. > > I like the way you think, Jim. > > At age 54, I find that instead of reacting with chagrin (as I did for a while: shock and chagrin) when I see myself in the mirror (who the hell is that?) or in a photo (have never liked my looks in photos, at any age), I chuckle affectionately at the condition of my face. And neck. And hair. And breasts. And skin. And so on. I look in the mirror and tell myself "You are fabulous! And I like what I see!" Do I have to look like my younger self in order to be worth looking at? I need to accept what IS instead of longing for what no longer is, and I think I've passed a turning point there. Thank goodness. Much prefer laughing to crying, even if they are the same release. > > These physical changes are not going to be avoided (at least, I've heard of very few who still looked 20 or 40 when they were 70 or 80) if we wish to live a long life, so I am embracing them. We go through our youth believing that it's not our looks that count, yet we receive so many benefits that are due to our appearance and not to our inner worth, and we take much of our self-confidence from looking good, and I don't think we really acknowledge this until we start losing the bloom of youth and have no choice but to face the facts. > > If I'm looking like an old woman, that's fine with me, because I hope to become an old woman. All I wish is to look like a healthy, fit and happy old woman. > > Joni looks her age and there is nothing sad about that, except perhaps the sorrow we all feel at times about the loss of the way we "used to" look. It's a hard fact to swallow but if we are wise, we'll reconcile with reality. > > Kab e > > b?b 1b.b?b 1b.b?b 1b. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 08:51:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Foehr Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen Hi, I'm sure this is a bittersweet photo for all who have loved Joni from afar through the decades. But it is reality -- a very real picture of a very real woman. And, imo, reality is always better because it is genuine, nothing contrived, no pretense, just the reality of Joni at that moment. And she is strong enough to share her reality, not hide it in fear. As such, it may be bittersweet, but it is beautiful too. Does she look vulnerable? Yes, but we all are vulnerable, whether we show it or not: each moment we dangle by a thin thread over the abyss, and as we age that thread does grow thinner. Does she look sad? Yes, as we all are from time to time, but I'm sure there are also other moods at other times, and smiles and laughter and crocuses too. "The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain. ... When you are joyous, look deep into your heart and you shall find it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy. When you are sorrowful look again in your heart, and you shall see that in truth you are weeping for that which has been your delight. Some of you say, "Joy is greater than sorrow," and others say, "Nay, sorrow is the greater." But I say unto you, they are inseparable. Together they come, and when one sits alone with you at your board, remember that the other is asleep upon your bed. " Khalil Gibran - The Prophet - ------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 10:43:12 -0700 (PDT) From: LC Stanley Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen I think it is hard not to grieve as life goes on because there is so much loss over a life time. "Everything comes and goes..." Everything. ________________________________ From: Shari Eaton To: Corey Blake Cc: Raffaele Malanga ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 11:23 AM Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen I said it *looks* like she could be grieving. As you've all said she looks incredibly vulnerable. I posed the question - would you appreciate ppl sharing this kind of photo of you? No one has responded to that question. I sure wouldn't. Until we know she's cool sharing such a moment with anyone and everyone I would strongly suggest not linking it any further. On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Corey Blake wrote: > I think we're making some big assumptions about the context of the picture (how did we get to someone having died?), and also what kind of permission was granted. She looks sad or possibly tired to me but still a really good picture. And what's so bad about being vulnerable, anyway? > > > On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Shari Eaton wrote: > >> And you should like to have a photo taken of you with this level of vulnerability and placed on Instagram and shared across the web? It's a touch disrespectful. >> >> >> On Apr 8, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Raffaele Malanga wrote: >> >>> Yes. Perhaps that's why I found it moving. Almost as if we should not be there, looking at her. She looks so vulnerable >>> >>> On 8 Apr 2013, at 16:51, "Shari Eaton" wrote: >>> >>>> Seems a little too personal for public eyes. She could be grieving the loss of someone close. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 7:54 AM, Raffaele Malanga wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://instagram.com/p/X1T1_ek80m/ >>>>> >>>>> I find this photo extremely touching >>>>> >>>>> Raf. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 19:54:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen I personally don't care for any photos of myself since I was in my 40's. But even though I don't care for more recent pics of myself, it doesn't bother me when others post them even though its a big reality check (darn I'm getting to be an old fart). Fortunately, I'm able to laugh along with Father Time. It's a great Pic Raf and thanks for sharing even though reality doesn't always paint the same pretty picture we all have painted in our minds. ________________________________ From: shadows and light To: Jack Merkel Cc: Shari Eaton ; Raffaele Malanga ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 1:02 PM Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen i am old school and am always surprised when someone takes, tags and uploads MY picture. I like to be asked. So speculation aside as to Joni's mood, it is a picture in her own home and that raises some questions. Personally i think she looks beautiful. Being a celebrity is a devil's bargain. The last time i saw Natalie Merchant was at the Yost Theater in Santa Ana. She stopped singing and confiscated iphones and cameras from the audience members. No electronic devices she implored. Wistfully, she said: "Can't I have control of my image? Don't you think I should?" Yet, at the end of the night she gave everything back and posed for about 10 minutes. But by the time I got home that night, her show was all over you tube. And I of course, watched and re-watched the show. Joni is probably resigned to her image circulating around. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Jack Merkel wrote: > I somewhat agree, but then again, Joni has always been willing to share > her vulnerable side. She has never been shy about opening up her heart and > soul for the whole world to see. I guess the difference here is that in her > music, she controlled what was shared. Hopefully who ever took this > picture is close enough to Joni to know whether she would approve of this > being shared. I'm assuming anyone in the position to take this photo would > be close enough to her to know how she would feel about this. Personally I > think it's a beautiful portrait and one that captures Joni's emotional > depth that we all know and admire. > > Jack > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 8, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Shari Eaton wrote: > > > And you should like to have a photo taken of you with this level of > vulnerability and placed on Instagram and shared across the web? It's a > touch disrespectful. > > > > > > On Apr 8, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Raffaele Malanga > wrote: > > > >> Yes. Perhaps that's why I found it moving. Almost as if we should not > be there, looking at her. She looks so vulnerable > >> > >> On 8 Apr 2013, at 16:51, "Shari Eaton" wrote: > >> > >>> Seems a little too personal for public eyes. She could be grieving the > loss of someone close. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 7:54 AM, Raffaele Malanga > wrote: > >>> > >>>> http://instagram.com/p/X1T1_ek80m/ > >>>> > >>>> I find this photo extremely touching > >>>> > >>>> Raf. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 09:25:36 -0400 From: Gerald Kent Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen Looks like all of the smoking and bitterness has caught up with Joni. She should have heeded her own words: "Happiness is the best facelift". What a shame! Sent from my iPad On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Corey Blake wrote: > Good eye! That's awesome. > > > On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:02 AM, est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: > >> Love the match cover! >> >> Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2013 13:16:54 -0500 From: est86mlm@ameritech.net Subject: Joni in her kitchen + her appearance Mark, FYI: I remember there was one being sold on eBay and not that long ago. (SEE eBay Item Number 310537663319) So, there could be more out there for you. As it was a promotional item, I found it surprizing, and got a real kick out of seeing Joni actually using one! Almost like it was planted there along with 2 packs of her ciggys. (Doesn't the discussion about the brand of ciggys appears on JMDL annually??) https://www.nascigs.com/ I found her expression rather pensive, as she has an everthinking mind. Maybe listening to the person across the table from her? She always said she wasn't going to have plastic surgery and is probably quite proud of her aging. She may actually enjoy the fact that she has the artistic face of aging as one of the artists she admired, O'Keeffe, did when Joni knew her. Mark, I agree with you on her hair!! Joni quote: "You can look at beauty in different ways by putting on different hats. There are women my age who have obviously had face-lifts. Seeing them, I've thought, Maybe it's time. I've gone to the mirror and lifted my jawline up as it would be after a face-lift, then let it drop back down. But when I lift it up, it doesn't match the rest of it. In a way, it looks better with the jowls and everything. There is a look that you get in your sixties, and if you're a healthy, happy version of that look, that's beautiful. If you try to contrive the jawline of a thirty- or forty-year-old, but your hands are all liver-spotted and crinkly, the moment you put your hand up to your face, as you would in the course of an evening, your wrinkled hand next to that tight little jawline looks ridiculous. So now what, do you start sewing your hands? To me, the whole idea of it is really one of the modern tragedies, that so much emphasis is put on something so superficial, and that people can be so unhappy that they do that to themselves. I think it is symptomatic of a greater problem, which is not being addressed: that people are entering into middle age in some kind of spiritual void, and by spiritual I don't mean religious. Their spirits are depressed. Only a depressed spirit would go to one of those butchers and let him cut her face all up and stitch it into some macabre resemblance of youth. Plastic surgery nullifies the character that shows the patterns of people's lives - how much they've laughed, how much they've grieved. This surgically altered look has become so commonplace that no one seems to see it as grotesque. There's no wisdom in this culture, now love of character." and from the same article: "Joy. I'm blessed with some really fun-loving friends. We play pool. We have outings every once in a while. I can go anywhere with these guys and know that we will be having a good giggle all night long. You're one. I have friends with a capacity for fun, and a great capacity for joy. I've taken them to Saskatchewan, where I come from. We go walking in the country and it's full of revelations for them. My best friends are like happy children. That's not to say that we don't have adult down days, but we buoy each other up. I remember seeing a documentary on a group of middle-aged Israelis who had grown up communally from early childhood, and, huddled together for a group portrait, they all looked like they were about seven years old. The benefits of prolonged friendship between a group of people are the comfortability, the inside jokes, and the hard teasing that comes from a strong bottom line. All of that is a joy to me. " http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=1461&from=search Personally I'm beyond giddy to see that Joni has a younger friend she's regularly hanging-with that clearly is "documenting" Joni's life as she sees and lives it with her. It is remarkable and a real gift since Joni herself isn't in any hurry to embrace modern technology. And the fact that we are privy to these ongoing pictures of her every day life thru a friend rather than some paparazzi quick-pic encounter. (Thanks Shelli!) As an amateur photographer who used to chase my friends around with my camera documenting our days/nights but also looking for a deeper soul-searching shot of their faces, I absolutely LOVE this photo of Joni's face, her hands & her surroundings. I've also noticed she wears this pair of earrings constantly. I can't help but wonder if there isn't a story behind them. She's worn them for years now. Laura > That is a great catch, Laura! And I want one of those matchbooks. LOL! > > Personally I think this is a very beautiful photograph. From the way > it is lit and posed, I feel that Joni was well aware that it was being > taken. To me she looks wise and reflective. There is a far away look > in her eyes, as if she is visualizing or contemplating something we > don't see or know about. Sad? Vulnerable? Maybe. But I think she > appears too deep inside her own thoughts to really be able to say. > > Annie Ross once said of Billie Holiday's voice on 'Lady in Satin' that > there is a whole life in that voice or words to that effect. There is > a whole life in this face. Her hair is down, she is not glammed up. > Very much in keeping with her image during the STAS through FTR > years. I think this is a much more attractive photo than some of the > recent pictures of Joni with her hair piled up and face made up at > various public events. I can't see the woman who wrote 'all these > vain promises on beauty jars, somewhere with your wings on time you > must be laughing........sweet bird of time and change you must be > laughing, up on your feathers, laughing' getting too bent out of shape > by having this beautiful image of herself circulated. It's almost a > work of art and she is its subject. I think that would please Joni. > > Of course I don't really know her so I don't really know what her > reaction would be. > > Mark in Seattle > > -----Original Message----- From: Corey Blake > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 9:09 AM > To: est86mlm@ameritech.net > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen > > Good eye! That's awesome. > > > On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:02 AM, est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: > >> Love the match cover! >> >> Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 13:23:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: For the Roses concert review by Robert Bush, writer for the San Diego Reader Nicely done! And of course, I read the url as sandie go-reader. When does the tour start? >________________________________ > From: Dave Blackburn >To: JMDL JMDL >Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 2:17:25 PM >Subject: For the Roses concert review by Robert Bush, writer for the San Diego Reader > >http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/jam-session/2013/apr/09/for-the-roses/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 18:32:03 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: For the Roses concert review by Robert Bush, writer for the San Diego Reader Ahhhhh.....The Dawntreader.....my heart aches to have missed that. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Dave Blackburn Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 11:17 AM To: JMDL JMDL Subject: For the Roses concert review by Robert Bush, writer for the San Diego Reader http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/jam-session/2013/apr/09/for-the-roses/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 19:50:58 +0100 From: Anita Subject: Re: For the Roses concert review by Robert Bush, writer for the San Diego Reader What a brilliant review, Dave! Being described as 'sublime' doesn't get any better than that! I have been reading all the discussion about Joni in the kitchen and people's perceptions and projections about the photograph. There is nothing other than sheer joy on Robin's face in the photo that accompanies the review and she looks absolutely stunning. Congratulations! Anita On 9 Apr 2013, at 19:17, Dave Blackburn wrote: > http://www.sandiegoreader.com/weblogs/jam-session/2013/apr/09/for-the-roses/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 15:42:34 +0000 From: "Susan E. McNamara" Subject: RE: Joni in her kitchen I love what Mark said, which I always need to remind myself, is that we don't really know Joni Mitchell - the person, we know her art and music. Having said that, my immediate reaction to this photo was poignant thoughts about watching my mother grow old. She is 75 now, and many aspects of her life have been effected by age just in the last 5 years. Her face, which always looked much younger than her actual age, now has caught up and she has begun to shrink a bit. She was recently diagnosed with macular degeneration (a disease of the retina) and although modern medicine is slowing down the process, her vision has suffered, which in turn has limited her freedom. I noticed what looks like an antique looking glass near Joni's bottled drink. I guess what mostly struck me was the look on Joni's face because I see that look on my mother's face as she is thinking about how to finish her sentences because the memory is not what it used to be. It's a sense of sadness that what was is changing, but there is also this strength that says I will do this with dignity. I am starting to recognize with gratitude that my mother is teaching me how to grow old. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2013 11:19 AM To: Jim; shadows and light; Jack Merkel Cc: Shari Eaton; Raffaele Malanga; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen I don't like seeing photos of myself either. Any time, anywhere, but especially now that I'm older. I'd rather stay in some kind of denial, the denial that faces me in the mirror every day when I don't really notice how haggard I sometimes am. I found this photo pretty arty for something that was probably taken with a shitty cellphone camera. I think that's what Instagram is all about, n'est-ce pas? Don't mind me. I'm in a techno-rut, and couldn't be bothered to keep up with that stuff. anyway, Joni is 70, or nearly, and life happens. Disregard the wrinkles and the apparently sad expression. I like the shadows and light in this one and I'd prefer to see this as pensive, rather than sad. I wonder if that's beer she's drinking, or ginger ale? >________________________________ > From: Jim >To: shadows and light ; Jack Merkel >Cc: Shari Eaton ; Raffaele Malanga ; "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 10:54:09 PM >Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen > >I personally don't care for any photos of myself since I was in my 40's. But >even though I don't care for more recent pics of myself, it doesn't bother me >when others post them even though its a big reality check (darn I'm getting to >be an old fart). Fortunately, I'm able to laugh along with Father Time. >It's a great Pic Raf and thanks for sharing even though reality doesn't always >paint the same pretty picture we all have painted in our minds. > > >[...] >> >>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 7:54 AM, Raffaele Malanga > >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> >http://instagram.com/p/X1T1_ek80m/ >> >>>> >> >>>> I find this photo extremely >touching >> >>>> >> >>>> Raf. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 09:04:30 -0500 From: Arkay Adkisson Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen Wow. Arkay Adkisson Piercedcanvas@gmail.com On Apr 9, 2013, at 8:27 AM, Gerald Kent wrote: > Looks like all of the smoking and bitterness has caught up with Joni. She should have heeded her own words: "Happiness is the best facelift". What a shame! > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 8, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Corey Blake wrote: > >> Good eye! That's awesome. >> >> >> On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:02 AM, est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: >> >>> Love the match cover! >>> >>> Laura ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 08:51:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Kevin Foehr Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen Hi, I'm sure this is a bittersweet photo for all who have loved Joni from afar through the decades. But it is reality -- a very real picture of a very real woman. And, imo, reality is always better because it is genuine, nothing contrived, no pretense, just the reality of Joni at that moment. And she is strong enough to share her reality, not hide it in fear. As such, it may be bittersweet, but it is beautiful too. Does she look vulnerable? Yes, but we all are vulnerable, whether we show it or not: each moment we dangle by a thin thread over the abyss, and as we age that thread does grow thinner. Does she look sad? Yes, as we all are from time to time, but I'm sure there are also other moods at other times, and smiles and laughter and crocuses too. "The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain. ... When you are joyous, look deep into your heart and you shall find it is only that which has given you sorrow that is giving you joy. When you are sorrowful look again in your heart, and you shall see that in truth you are weeping for that which has been your delight. Some of you say, "Joy is greater than sorrow," and others say, "Nay, sorrow is the greater." But I say unto you, they are inseparable. Together they come, and when one sits alone with you at your board, remember that the other is asleep upon your bed. " Khalil Gibran - The Prophet - ------------------------------- Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 10:43:12 -0700 (PDT) From: LC Stanley Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen I think it is hard not to grieve as life goes on because there is so much loss over a life time. "Everything comes and goes..." Everything. ________________________________ From: Shari Eaton To: Corey Blake Cc: Raffaele Malanga ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 11:23 AM Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen I said it *looks* like she could be grieving. As you've all said she looks incredibly vulnerable. I posed the question - would you appreciate ppl sharing this kind of photo of you? No one has responded to that question. I sure wouldn't. Until we know she's cool sharing such a moment with anyone and everyone I would strongly suggest not linking it any further. On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:09 AM, Corey Blake wrote: > I think we're making some big assumptions about the context of the picture (how did we get to someone having died?), and also what kind of permission was granted. She looks sad or possibly tired to me but still a really good picture. And what's so bad about being vulnerable, anyway? > > > On Apr 8, 2013, at 9:02 AM, Shari Eaton wrote: > >> And you should like to have a photo taken of you with this level of vulnerability and placed on Instagram and shared across the web? It's a touch disrespectful. >> >> >> On Apr 8, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Raffaele Malanga wrote: >> >>> Yes. Perhaps that's why I found it moving. Almost as if we should not be there, looking at her. She looks so vulnerable >>> >>> On 8 Apr 2013, at 16:51, "Shari Eaton" wrote: >>> >>>> Seems a little too personal for public eyes. She could be grieving the loss of someone close. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 7:54 AM, Raffaele Malanga wrote: >>>> >>>>> http://instagram.com/p/X1T1_ek80m/ >>>>> >>>>> I find this photo extremely touching >>>>> >>>>> Raf. - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2013 19:54:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen I personally don't care for any photos of myself since I was in my 40's. But even though I don't care for more recent pics of myself, it doesn't bother me when others post them even though its a big reality check (darn I'm getting to be an old fart). Fortunately, I'm able to laugh along with Father Time. It's a great Pic Raf and thanks for sharing even though reality doesn't always paint the same pretty picture we all have painted in our minds. ________________________________ From: shadows and light To: Jack Merkel Cc: Shari Eaton ; Raffaele Malanga ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Monday, April 8, 2013 1:02 PM Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen i am old school and am always surprised when someone takes, tags and uploads MY picture. I like to be asked. So speculation aside as to Joni's mood, it is a picture in her own home and that raises some questions. Personally i think she looks beautiful. Being a celebrity is a devil's bargain. The last time i saw Natalie Merchant was at the Yost Theater in Santa Ana. She stopped singing and confiscated iphones and cameras from the audience members. No electronic devices she implored. Wistfully, she said: "Can't I have control of my image? Don't you think I should?" Yet, at the end of the night she gave everything back and posed for about 10 minutes. But by the time I got home that night, her show was all over you tube. And I of course, watched and re-watched the show. Joni is probably resigned to her image circulating around. On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM, Jack Merkel wrote: > I somewhat agree, but then again, Joni has always been willing to share > her vulnerable side. She has never been shy about opening up her heart and > soul for the whole world to see. I guess the difference here is that in her > music, she controlled what was shared. Hopefully who ever took this > picture is close enough to Joni to know whether she would approve of this > being shared. I'm assuming anyone in the position to take this photo would > be close enough to her to know how she would feel about this. Personally I > think it's a beautiful portrait and one that captures Joni's emotional > depth that we all know and admire. > > Jack > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 8, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Shari Eaton wrote: > > > And you should like to have a photo taken of you with this level of > vulnerability and placed on Instagram and shared across the web? It's a > touch disrespectful. > > > > > > On Apr 8, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Raffaele Malanga > wrote: > > > >> Yes. Perhaps that's why I found it moving. Almost as if we should not > be there, looking at her. She looks so vulnerable > >> > >> On 8 Apr 2013, at 16:51, "Shari Eaton" wrote: > >> > >>> Seems a little too personal for public eyes. She could be grieving the > loss of someone close. > >>> > >>> > >>> On Apr 8, 2013, at 7:54 AM, Raffaele Malanga > wrote: > >>> > >>>> http://instagram.com/p/X1T1_ek80m/ > >>>> > >>>> I find this photo extremely touching > >>>> > >>>> Raf. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 10:39:15 -0600 From: Kate Johnson Subject: Re: Joni in her kitchen On 2013-04-08, at 8:54 PM, Jim wrote: > Fortunately, I'm able to laugh along with Father Time. I like the way you think, Jim. At age 54, I find that instead of reacting with chagrin (as I did for a while: shock and chagrin) when I see myself in the mirror (who the hell is that?) or in a photo (have never liked my looks in photos, at any age), I chuckle affectionately at the condition of my face. And neck. And hair. And breasts. And skin. And so on. I look in the mirror and tell myself "You are fabulous! And I like what I see!" Do I have to look like my younger self in order to be worth looking at? I need to accept what IS instead of longing for what no longer is, and I think I've passed a turning point there. Thank goodness. Much prefer laughing to crying, even if they are the same release. These physical changes are not going to be avoided (at least, I've heard of very few who still looked 20 or 40 when they were 70 or 80) if we wish to live a long life, so I am embracing them. We go through our youth believing that it's not our looks that count, yet we receive so many benefits that are due to our appearance and not to our inner worth, and we take much of our self-confidence from looking good, and I don't think we really acknowledge this until we start losing the bloom of youth and have no choice but to face the facts. If I'm looking like an old woman, that's fine with me, because I hope to become an old woman. All I wish is to look like a healthy, fit and happy old woman. Joni looks her age and there is nothing sad about that, except perhaps the sorrow we all feel at times about the loss of the way we "used to" look. It's a hard fact to swallow but if we are wise, we'll reconcile with reality. Kab e b?b 1b.b?b 1b.b?b 1b. Stubblejumpin'Gal http://goldengrainfarm.blogspot.com Follow me on Twitter: https://twitter.com/#!/blondiblathers ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2013 13:48:58 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: Review of Ladies of the Canyon, as reissued on LP by Reprise I was reading reviews of the LP re-issues of some of Joni's Reprise records when I found this review. He talks at length about the songs themselves before he gets around to reviewing the quality of the reissue. On a scale of 10, he rates the music as a 10 and the technical quality of the sound as 10 also. http://www.analogplanet.com/content/joni-mitchell%E2%80%99s-laurel-canyon-rediscovered Reprise/Rhino R1 6376 180g LP Produced by: Joni Mitchell and Henry Lewy Engineered by: Henry Lewy Mixed by: Henry Lewy Mastered by: Chris Bellman at Bernie Grundman Mastering - -------------------- "Joni Mitchells Laurel Canyon Rediscovered" Posted By Randy Wells on June 28, 2012 Joni Mitchells decision to stay in New York City instead of traveling 300 miles north to attend a three-day rock festival in August of 1969 was probably a good idea. If she had actually seen Woodstock for herself, she may not have created such an intense and idealized song by the same name. David Crosby of the group Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young (CSNY), which made Mitchells Woodstock a big hit in 1970, said that she captured the feeling and importance of the Woodstock festival better than anyone who had been there. Her songs about Los Angeles Laurel Canyon community written around the same time received similar attention to detail. The resulting album, Ladies Of The Canyon, revealed a more confident singer-songwriter. Still restless and introspective, her music showed more lyrical maturity and rhythmic drive compared to her previous release, the 1969 Grammy award winning Clouds. Her delicate vocals seemed to have gained another octave as she reached deeper to convey her feelings about life, love and its complexities. In 1969, the Aquarian themes of Woodstock (peace, love and music) were being played out on a smaller scale in the secluded Los Angeles neighborhood of Laurel Canyon, which is defined by a road that links Hollywood Blvd. to Mulholland Drive. Two years earlier Mitchell had purchased a wooden cottage surrounded by cypress trees that had been built by a jazz musician into the side of a hill on Lookout Mountain Avenue. Living in Laurel Canyon also meant that friends surrounded her, including Crosby, Stephen Stills, John Sebastian, Linda Ronstadt, Carol King, and Cass Elliot. Several of the songs Mitchell wrote at the time, including the title track, were a direct result of her embracing that slice of bohemian counter-culture while maintaining a sense of domesticity. They also reflected her close ties to the members of CSNY, who helped sing back up harmony on the albums The Circle Game  a song that was inspired by fellow Canadian Neil Youngs Sugar Mountain. Mitchells blossoming relationship with her boyfriend Graham Nash was also significant. They had fallen in love the previous year and were living together in Mitchells home (with two cats in the yard). Willy was Nashs nickname and the song Mitchell composed about him. It was written during a trip they made together to shoot the inside gatefold photograph for CSNs debut album. That song laid out their relationship bare for all to see. Nash would respond with Our House on Dij` Vu and later with Simple Man on Songs For Beginners  when they broke up after Ladies Of The Canyon was released. Everything about Ladies... had been honed to a fine edge, but that polishing also meant more work. Drawings by Mitchell were featured on the soft matte cover, and her handwritten lyrics graced the inside gatefold (with a line missing from Woodstock). At the time she observed, The drawings, the music and the words are very much tied together. (Its) the kind of material I want to write  I want to be brighter, to get people up, to grab people. So Im stifling my feelings of solitude. Mitchell would return to those feelings of solitude on her next album, embarking on a confessional journey that would produce her dark masterpiece, Blue. But that record of painful beauty was a year away. Ladies, while just as sparse in its arrangements, remained mostly innocent and was far less self-questioning. The songs were performed on piano and guitar in a style that was changing from the acoustic folk of her first two albums to something like the pop sound she would later achieve on her best selling record, Court and Spark. Like that release, Ladies... was recorded in nearby Hollywood at A&M Records Studio - because the piano at A&M is the best in the whole world, said Mitchell. Henry Lewy handled engineering duties and provided guidance in producing the additional cello, clarinet, saxophone, flute, and percussion. Released as RS 6376 on Reprise Records in the spring of 1970 when Mitchell was 26 years old, the LP sold quickly and became her first gold record. It confirmed Mitchells ability to convey complicated emotions in a simple way. Take for example the charming Morning Morgantown. This lead off tune echoes the sunny Chelsea Morning from her previous album, but adds a poignant tone to her soaring vocals, making it much more introspective. For Free could have been written about todays abundance of struggling artists. It portrays a street musician who keeps playing even though he isnt really getting paid. Mitchell questions her own good fortune of becoming successful while wondering what freedoms she may have given up in the process (this struggle between art and commerce would be revisited). Conversation is her first soft rocker that churns away on the back of strumming guitars and bop vocals by The Saskatunes (in actuality a multi-tracked Mitchell). The environmental anthem Big Yellow Taxi with its unforgettable line they paved paradise and put up a parking lot may be her best-known track on the album. The lyrics were inspired by a view Mitchell saw from her Honolulu hotel room. Amazingly, she effectively connects the betrayal of the land to a taxi that takes her lover away. Who else could diffuse an ecological protest song by wrapping it up in romanticism and finishing it off with a laugh? And then theres The Circle Game which remains one of her most magical songs if simply for the reason its the archetype of a vision that is both achingly personal and universally thematic without becoming too sentimental. In retrospect, Joni Mitchell was blossoming as an artist on Ladies Of The Canyon. It provided a personal platform on which she could paint her ever-evolving canvas. Conflicted between her desire for love and a need for independence, Mitchell expressed a variety of emotions based on her experiences, including those in Laurel Canyon. Like her earlier work, its optimistic - but its also significantly more mature in outlook. The hopes and dreams of a generation of California baby boomers may be gone, but we still have this album to listen to. Essential. - -------------------- All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu Columbus, Ohio ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #134 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe