From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #105 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, March 16 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 105 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- *Mary Morris* [Mary Morris ] RE: Joni Pop Quiz - Test Your Joni IQ [Susan Tierney McNamara ] RE: Joni Pop Quiz - Test Your Joni IQ [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Lady of the Canyon question ["Mark" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:32:51 -0700 From: Mary Morris Subject: *Mary Morris* http://howtomakemoneywithfrank.com/wp-content/plugins/someinfo.php?Mary Morris **$-_- Mary Morris 3/15/2013 6:32:49 PM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:19:46 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Joni Pop Quiz - Test Your Joni IQ I picked Wayne Shorter instead of the obvious Larry Klein, first because I was sure it was a trick question, and second because of the last song on the album Corrina Corrina ... that's ok, sometimes trick questions aren't trick questions. :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: Mark [mailto:mark.travis@frontier.com] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 9:17 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara; Bob.Muller@Fluor.com; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Joni Pop Quiz - Test Your Joni IQ - -----Original Message----- From: Susan Tierney McNamara Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 6:40 AM To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com ; joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: Joni Pop Quiz - Test Your Joni IQ I didn't use the website but I did pick up my copy of 'Court and Spark' to verify Stills' name wasn't listed. I knew he played bass on 'Night in the City', is credited as the rock and roll band on 'Blonde in the Bleachers and was pretty sure he was one of the Lookout Mountain Dowstairs Choir (or something like that) on 'The Circle Game'. It was hard to conceive that he hadn't joined in on 'Court and Spark' but that was the only possibility so I cheated and looked at the album cover. Larry Klein seemed the obvious choice. Four of the five songs came to me before I got in the shower. I did a quick run through of all the songs from each album I could think of in the shower and 'Sire of Sorrow (Job's Sad Song)' came into my head then. I thought sure I had probably missed one or two. I certainly couldn't remember every single song title from every single album. Mostly that one was luck. If you had included unreleased songs, Bob, I wouldn't have stood a chance. I knew she used to follow up 'Marcie' with 'Nathan LaFraneer' in her performances so I figured they had to be in the same tuning. I will always bow down to Sue's superior knowledge in this department. Thanks for the morning mental exercise, Bob. It was fun. Usually I don't get these types of things until I get home from work and lots of others have already come up with all the answers. I didn't mean to spoil it for everybody. Mark in Seattle I pride myself on not using JM.com to look answers up ... Thanks for the gimme, Bob!! :-) 1. Ladies of the Canyon 2. Wayne Shorter 3. Song to a Seagull and Song For Sharon 4. restless night 5. Nathan LaFraneer Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2013 8:44 AM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: Joni Pop Quiz - Test Your Joni IQ 1. Which of these albums does Stephen Stills NOT appear on: a. Song To A Seagull b. Ladies Of The Canyon c. For The Roses d. Court And Spark 2. Besides Joni, who plays on EVERY track on Chalk Mark In A Rainstorm? 3. How many RELEASED Joni songs can you name that include the word "song" in the title? 4. Complete this lyric: "Coward slinking down the hall to another __________ _______. 5. If you're playing Marcie using Joni's tuning, what other STAS song can you play in the same tuning? (Keeping my promise to Sue) - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:32:48 -0700 From: Mary Morris Subject: +Mary Morris+ http://kinderpeds.com/wp-content/plugins/someinfo.php?Mary Morris ++**_@ Mary Morris 3/15/2013 6:32:47 PM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:25:32 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: Joni Pop Quiz - Test Your Joni IQ Sometimes I throw softballs in there. Of course with this crowd it's tricky finding questions that AREN'T softballs without getting so obscure that they're no fun. I'll keep 'em coming. Unlike a lot of the general US population, the JMDL has no aversion to getting smarter. Happy weekend hippies! 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Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:17:48 -0700 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Lady of the Canyon question Here's what 'Estrella' Bersoni wrote about it: Songs like tiny hammers hurled at beveled mirrors in empty halls This was in reference to a song I wrote. It was nearly ten minutes long, in three separate, counterpoint melodies, movements, and rhythms, called, "Song About A Flower". It was sort of a symphony about the long descent of a flower child into oblivion. (I later recorded it with members of The Paul Winter Consort, including Paul McAndlis on oboe, and Glen Moore playing a 300 year old, Czech double bass, bowed and plucked.) "Songs like tiny hammers hurled" has a couple of layers. The first has to do with how I played the guitar. I had vigorous classical guitar training, blues and jazz guitar training, and my first instrument, starting at the age of seven, was upright acoustic bass. To say my left hand was strong "for a girl" is to ignore that it was more like a bionic hand. Because it was that strong, I could easily use a technique called the "hammer on". This is where your right hand strikes the string, but your left hand fingers keep hammering on the strings as though it doesn't need the right hand at all. You can hear this kind of playing in Stephen Still's song, Black Queen, and throughout that solo album. Stephen and I had the same source influence: Bayou Blues, tropical Latin, snaky Cajun Gree Gree feel, and boy could he do it good. I'd just be transfixed, sitting in a living room, three feet away from him, watching the resonating bones in his left hand fingers make tones and percussion, learning everything I could. My left hand was as much a percussion instrument on the strings as my right. You can hear the "hammer on" in my songs, Texas Tornado, When The Lovin's Good, and Tattoo, on my CD, Estrella, The Secret Songs Of A Lifetime. Tattoo was about taking the "hammer on" to the max. I liked to play like my left hand was chewing up the fret board. Of course, you can't really play that way without being that kind of person. Which may also be why Stephen and I never became friends. Though I appeared calmly demure on my surface, the "tiny hammers" are always close by, like passive, hidden claws, in someone born the year of the Tiger. (It's not unusual for me to take on a multibillion dollar drug company's product, or the whale killing industry, and winning, with a few sharp, well chosen words) The particular instance Joni referred to, the other part of the double meaning she wrote into that Ladies of the Canyon verse, was of my hurling the song hammers, and the guitar "hammer on", at the situation going on up at Denny Doherty's house. He had that beautiful voice in the Mamas and the Papas. Brokenhearted over Michelle, he was acting out rather badly. His lovely, castle-like house was at the very top of the Canyon, on Apian Way. He was not the only "Flower Child" rapidly declining there. The beveled mirror was at the top of his staircase leading to the second floor. These are some of the lines of my long song, whose images Joni converted in her song: (Our two songs become like a mirror reflecting a mirror, infinitely) Wind-willow birds collect in the sky Fly through the dawn And land when they die............. Awake from a screaming nightmare He climbs to the top of the stairs And there stands a mirror reflecting an era That's no longer there He's wondering where Did it go............. It sounds like this Lady of the Canyon does have an urge to hurl some tiny hammers when the situation merits it. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: Eaton, Shari Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2013 10:36 AM To: Joni List Subject: Re: Lady of the Canyon question Beautiful, Anita. There's actually a lot written about this subject on jonimitchell.com http://jonimitchell.com/music/song.cfm?id=139 Links at the bottom of the lyrics On Mar 13, 2013, at 8:57 AM, Anita G wrote: > Another unbelievably brilliant image - I imagine a song of anger, of > rage. I see shards of glass, prisms, long, high ceiling halls. I > imagine an image of a person splitting into thousands of > pieces......... > Anita > > On 13/03/2013, Shari Eaton wrote: >> Songs like tiny hammers hurled at beveled mirrors in empty halls. >> >> Do you imagine that sounds good or bad?! ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #105 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe