From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #75 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, February 27 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 075 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: New Library item: Toronto's Luminato Celebrates Joni Mitchell with the Help of Rufus Wainwright, Glen Hansard [] New Library item: Toronto's Luminato Celebrates Joni Mitchell with the Help of Rufus Wainwright, Glen Hansard [] Re: Litigation [Les Irvin ] Re: voices book ["David J. Phillips" ] Re: 'Urge for Going' question [Victor Johnson ] litigation [joe farrell ] Re: Litigation [Dave Blackburn ] Re: New Library item: Toronto's Luminato Celebrates Joni Mitchell with the Help of Rufus Wainwright, Glen Hansard [] RE: urge for going - ambi-sexual lyric ["Robert Sartorius" ] RE: 'Urge for Going' question [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: Litigation/donations [Anita ] Re: 'Urge for Going' question [Michael Paz ] Re: Litigation [Gerald Kent ] voices book [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] Re: New Library item: Toronto's Luminato Celebrates Joni Mitchell with the Help of Rufus Wainwright, Glen Hansard [] Other photographers take on litigation [Anita Subject: Re: New Library item: Toronto's Luminato Celebrates Joni Mitchell with the Help of Rufus Wainwright, Glen Hansard Holy everythings! What a night out that will be. I am saving up for the ballet in Calgary, but if Mr Good Fortune comes a-knocking........ Anita ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 13:55:55 -0700 (MST) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Toronto's Luminato Celebrates Joni Mitchell with the Help of Rufus Wainwright, Glen Hansard Title: Toronto's Luminato Celebrates Joni Mitchell with the Help of Rufus Wainwright, Glen Hansard Publication: Exclaim.ca Date: 2013.2.26 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2553 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 17:04:27 -0700 From: Les Irvin Subject: Re: Litigation As of a few hours ago, my legal statement regarding the copyright infringement case is: "It has been settled and I cannot talk about it." Thanks to everyone for your help and support! Les On 2/24/2013 4:50 PM, Gerald Kent wrote: > I would be happy to donate if funds become an issue. Gerry ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 22:58:29 -0500 From: "David J. Phillips" Subject: Re: voices book good heavens. It's going for $450 - $650 on Amazon. How much do you think my autographed copy is worth? At last, something for Antiques Roadshow! djp On 26/02/13 21:4324, jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com wrote: > "voices" is the book of Joni's visual art, published for the show at > the Mendel Gallery. I decided to put mine up for sale because I have > only looked at it once and it was just collecting dust. > > For those of you who are keeping yours, you will be happy to know > that it has appreciated. It seems like I paid about $45 US plus $30 > in shipping. Does that sound right to you guys? > > Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 10:57:56 -0500 From: Victor Johnson Subject: Re: 'Urge for Going' question I think it means the former, that no other man could win his darling's heart (obviously this is from Tom Rush version of the song - with Joni the gender would be reversed). So even though the singer had won her heart (which no one else had been able to do), which was quite an accomplishment apparently - like being the one suitor who can win the princess' hand in a fairy tale - he still had to "let her go" when she got the "urge for going". Victor in Tampa On Sunday, February 24, 2013, Les Irvin wrote: > Question from the website... (be sure to copy Robert on any responses) > > -------- Original Message -------- > In the song "Urge for Going": does the line, "And not another man in town > my darling's heart could win" -- does this mean no man other than the > singer was able to win over his darling's heart? Or does it mean the > opposite: that his darling was not able to win over the heart of any other > man in town? (which is what I had always assumed, as it emphasizes the > pitiful situation of the singer) > > Name: Robert Rotstein > email: rrotstein@verizon.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 08:43:40 +0000 From: joe farrell Subject: litigation Les, I would be happy to contribute to any fund set up to cover the legal costs, if any, incurred in fighting this.Just say the word. This is not just down to you Les all of us who have enjoyed and appreciated the valuable resource which is JoniMitchell .com are here to support you. You are not alone. We need to do whatever it takes to protect you and the amazing site which you work so hard to maintain. Regards, Joe. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 16:24:18 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Litigation This might be a good time to remind ourselves that the website itself needs our annual support for hosting costs in addition to what this legal tangle may take to unravel. Les has a rather-too-well-hidden Paypal link and P.O Box mailing address on the website to receive donations but it wouldn't hurt to display it proudly here: http://jonimitchell.com/donate.cfm Who's able to send some funds to it this week so he has a little legal war chest going? Dave On Feb 24, 2013, at 3:50 PM, Gerald Kent wrote: > I would be happy to donate if funds become an issue. Gerry > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 24, 2013, at 3:22 AM, "kbhla" wrote: > >> I agree with David M. and David P. I've assumed that Les has consulted with >> an attorney, but if not, that is the only way to resolve the matter if the >> other side has not already agreed to drop the claim. Even lawyers and >> people who know law have to consult an outside lawyer when they need one. >> Also agree it may be as simple as an attorney writing a letter and that is >> not very costly. We can all help out with donations, if needed. >> >> >> >> Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:09:25 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: New Library item: Toronto's Luminato Celebrates Joni Mitchell with the Help of Rufus Wainwright, Glen Hansard Me, for sure. >________________________________ > From: Susan Tierney McNamara >To: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" ; joni >Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 5:38:19 PM >Subject: RE: New Library item: Toronto's Luminato Celebrates Joni Mitchell with the Help of Rufus Wainwright, Glen Hansard > >I'm up for a Toronto Jonifest ... anyone else? (oh shoot I need to get a passport!) :-) > >Susan Tierney McNamara >email: sem8@cornell.edu > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Bob.Muller@Fluor.com >Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2013 4:35 PM >To: joni >Subject: Re: New Library item: Toronto's Luminato Celebrates Joni Mitchell with the Help of Rufus Wainwright, Glen Hansard > >Holy cow, this event is going to be outstanding. > >Bob > > > > >From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com >To: joni@smoe.org >Date: 02/26/2013 04:12 PM >Subject: New Library item: Toronto's Luminato Celebrates Joni >Mitchell with the Help of Rufus Wainwright, Glen Hansard >Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org > > > >Title: Toronto's Luminato Celebrates Joni Mitchell with the Help of Rufus Wainwright, Glen Hansard >Publication: Exclaim.ca >Date: 2013.2.26 > >http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2553 > >------------------------------------------------------------ >The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. >If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > >Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. >------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 20:12:27 -0500 From: "Robert Sartorius" Subject: RE: urge for going - ambi-sexual lyric Robert R (via Les) asked: "In the song "Urge for Going": does the line, "And not another man in town my darling's heart could win" -- does this mean no man other than the singer was able to win over his darling's heart? Or does it mean the opposite: that his darling was not able to win over the heart of any other man in town? (which is what I had always assumed, as it emphasizes the pitiful situation of the singer)" This, of course, was the Tom Rush lyric. Joni's lyric was "And not another girl in town......" So, in Rush's lyric, all of the other men in town might have been trying win his darling's heart, but they could not (even if they tried). Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 20:32:54 -0500 From: Catherine Subject: Re: Litigation Yes!!! Les Irvin wrote: >As of a few hours ago, my legal statement regarding the copyright >infringement case is: > >"It has been settled and I cannot talk about it." > >Thanks to everyone for your help and support! >Les > > > >On 2/24/2013 4:50 PM, Gerald Kent wrote: >> I would be happy to donate if funds become an issue. Gerry ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 15:52:00 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: 'Urge for Going' question the theme of the song is as the winter comes in everything that was abundant in summer is going ... So Robert's first meaning is correct. So this verse is ... I had a man in summertime, he had summer colored skin ... and not another girl in town my darling's heart could win ... which means in summer this man only had eyes for our singer, and no other woman could win him, but as winter came in ... he got the urge for going and she had to let him go (or he since it sounds like Robert might be listening to the Tom Rush version). Susan McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu ________________________________________ From: owner-joni@smoe.org [owner-joni@smoe.org] on behalf of Les Irvin [lesirvin@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:07 AM To: Joni List Subject: 'Urge for Going' question Question from the website... (be sure to copy Robert on any responses) - -------- Original Message -------- In the song "Urge for Going": does the line, "And not another man in town my darling's heart could win" -- does this mean no man other than the singer was able to win over his darling's heart? Or does it mean the opposite: that his darling was not able to win over the heart of any other man in town? (which is what I had always assumed, as it emphasizes the pitiful situation of the singer) Name: Robert Rotstein email: rrotstein@verizon.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 08:55:24 +0000 From: Anita Subject: Re: Litigation/donations Why not give a donation for Les to do with what he will. I have never given enough for all he does, anyway. We can always do more if necessary later. Strikes me this photographer has found a great marketing tool. I'd never heard of her till now. Anita x On 24 Feb 2013, at 08:22, "kbhla" wrote: > I agree with David M. and David P. I've assumed that Les has consulted with > an attorney, but if not, that is the only way to resolve the matter if the > other side has not already agreed to drop the claim. Even lawyers and > people who know law have to consult an outside lawyer when they need one. > Also agree it may be as simple as an attorney writing a letter and that is > not very costly. We can all help out with donations, if needed. > > > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:00:44 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: 'Urge for Going' question And here to take to point counterpoint position of the analysis is none other than Jane Curtain from ignorant slut fame.... On Feb 24, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Victor Johnson wrote: I think it means the former, that no other man could win his darling's heart (obviously this is from Tom Rush version of the song - with Joni the gender would be reversed). So even though the singer had won her heart (which no one else had been able to do), which was quite an accomplishment apparently - like being the one suitor who can win the princess' hand in a fairy tale - he still had to "let her go" when she got the "urge for going". Victor in Tampa On Sunday, February 24, 2013, Les Irvin wrote: > Question from the website... (be sure to copy Robert on any responses) > > -------- Original Message -------- > In the song "Urge for Going": does the line, "And not another man in town > my darling's heart could win" -- does this mean no man other than the > singer was able to win over his darling's heart? Or does it mean the > opposite: that his darling was not able to win over the heart of any other > man in town? (which is what I had always assumed, as it emphasizes the > pitiful situation of the singer) > > Name: Robert Rotstein > email: rrotstein@verizon.net ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 18:50:30 -0500 From: Gerald Kent Subject: Re: Litigation I would be happy to donate if funds become an issue. Gerry Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2013, at 3:22 AM, "kbhla" wrote: > I agree with David M. and David P. I've assumed that Les has consulted with > an attorney, but if not, that is the only way to resolve the matter if the > other side has not already agreed to drop the claim. Even lawyers and > people who know law have to consult an outside lawyer when they need one. > Also agree it may be as simple as an attorney writing a letter and that is > not very costly. We can all help out with donations, if needed. > > > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 21:43:24 -0500 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: voices book "voices" is the book of Joni's visual art, published for the show at the Mendel Gallery. I decided to put mine up for sale because I have only looked at it once and it was just collecting dust. For those of you who are keeping yours, you will be happy to know that it has appreciated. It seems like I paid about $45 US plus $30 in shipping. Does that sound right to you guys? Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 16:35:11 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: New Library item: Toronto's Luminato Celebrates Joni Mitchell with the Help of Rufus Wainwright, Glen Hansard Holy cow, this event is going to be outstanding. Bob From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com To: joni@smoe.org Date: 02/26/2013 04:12 PM Subject: New Library item: Toronto's Luminato Celebrates Joni Mitchell with the Help of Rufus Wainwright, Glen Hansard Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Title: Toronto's Luminato Celebrates Joni Mitchell with the Help of Rufus Wainwright, Glen Hansard Publication: Exclaim.ca Date: 2013.2.26 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2553 - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 09:05:49 +0000 From: Anita Subject: Other photographers take on litigation I heard about the current issues when a friend sent this link to me. Apologies if this has already been posted. There is a lot of additional outrage out there, I am glad to discover. Anita >> >> http://www.petapixel.com/2013/02/21/photographer-sues-blogger-for-600k-over-f our-commenter-uploaded-photos/ ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #75 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe