From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #65 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, February 19 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 065 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #234 [carmel rotem ] Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #234 [carmel rotem ] Ruth Paz Foundation Needs your help!! [Michael Paz ] Re: Wizard of Id vs Suzanne ["Mark" ] Re: Wizard of Id vs Suzanne ["Mark" ] Wizard of Is [Bob Muller ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:39:57 -0800 (PST) From: carmel rotem Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #234 thanks Jacky! I listened to that link, as well as to some other songs of her on youtube and I really like them. her style remindes me more of Sandy Denny than Joni, but anyway I'm sure she's influenced by both. really great find! Carmel. Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:03:38 -0500 (EST) From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Olivia Chaney I haven't written anything to the list for eons but I just had alert people to someone I have just discovered here in the UK. I was listening to a folk program on BBC Radio and heard a track called Ballade by Olivia Chaney and it was so beautiful I needed to know more about her. _http://ochaney.amazingtunes.com/tunes/168523_ (http://ochaney.amazingtunes.com/tunes/168523) I was amazed to find her lovely version of ACOY on YouTube. It's very much a tribute version and, of course, she is being described as the new British Joni Mitchell, something she will have to live with, but she is so talented. Have a listen. _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VipgQCfu824_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VipgQCfu824) Jacky - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2013 10:39:57 -0800 (PST) From: carmel rotem Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #234 thanks Jacky! I listened to that link, as well as to some other songs of her on youtube and I really like them. her style remindes me more of Sandy Denny than Joni, but anyway I'm sure she's influenced by both. really great find! Carmel. Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 09:03:38 -0500 (EST) From: Gertus@aol.com Subject: Olivia Chaney I haven't written anything to the list for eons but I just had alert people to someone I have just discovered here in the UK. I was listening to a folk program on BBC Radio and heard a track called Ballade by Olivia Chaney and it was so beautiful I needed to know more about her. _http://ochaney.amazingtunes.com/tunes/168523_ (http://ochaney.amazingtunes.com/tunes/168523) I was amazed to find her lovely version of ACOY on YouTube. It's very much a tribute version and, of course, she is being described as the new British Joni Mitchell, something she will have to live with, but she is so talented. Have a listen. _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VipgQCfu824_ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VipgQCfu824) Jacky - ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:36:47 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Ruth Paz Foundation Needs your help!! Dear JMDL, The Ruth Paz Foundation is competing against 200 NGOs worldwide to win US$5000 for being the most LOVED video in the What in the World Are You Doing competition. Please cast your vote on http://bit.ly/12M6Wnf by clicking the LOVE IT button. USD$5000 can go a long way at the Ruth Paz Hospital for Burn Children and Pediatric Surgery. We can sponsor 45 hypospadia surgeries! Please help us spread the word to everybody so Honduras and the Ruth Paz Foundation can win. With the countrywide public healthcare crisis, our hospital is receiving more and more underprivileged children seeking free care. Help us help them! We would greatly appreciate if you can repost in your Facebook and Twitter accounts: From February 14-28th, the Ruth Paz Foundation is competing against 200 NGOs worldwide to be the most loved video. Help them help the Honduran children by clicking LOVE IT at http://bit.ly/12M6Wnf. You can vote once a day! Thank you kindly, Mary Ann and Michael Paz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2013 09:35:15 -0600 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Goodbye Pork Pie Hat in DADGAD I know Brian Thomas does and amazing version of Black Crow and I do not know what tuning he uses but I play Black Crow in this tuning Bb-Bb-Db-F-Ab-Bb Check in Brother Brian where you be's Happy Sunday Paz On Feb 17, 2013, at 6:42 AM, Anne Sandstrom wrote: Hi David. I'm pretty sure it isn't. Black Crow does quite sound like it's in DADGAD. But I haven't looked in the tab section of the site. lots of love, Anne on Feb 16, 2013, David Lahm wrote: Is that the tuning for Black Crow too? DAVID LAHM On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Anne Sandstrom wrote: A marriage or my favorite tuning and some Joni: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3Gl_TTH5KQ&feature=share< br> Apologies if this has been posted before. Enjoy! lots of love, Anne ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:09:08 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Wizard of Id vs Suzanne I was just researching some of what is known about Joni's relationship with Cohen. One source, 'Heck of a Guy - The Other Leonard Cohen Site', other being other than the official Leonard Cohen site, said that Judy Collins introduced Joni to Leonard at the Newport Folk Festival in 1967. Copyright on JoniMitchell.com for 'The Wizard of Is' says 1966. That would put it before the two met if what I read was accurate. According to Wikipedia, the song Suzanne was first recorded by Judy Collins on her 1966 album 'In My Life'. The lyrics were first released in Cohen's 1966 book of poetry, 'Parasites of Heaven'. So if all of that is true, it is possible that Joni had heard 'Suzanne' before she wrote 'The Wizard of Is'. Mark in Seattle Perhaps they had collaborated on developing the music and then she decided to let him have it instead of her? Or could she have written it first and then she let LC adapt it into Suzanne with his lyrics? And perhaps that is why it was never released on an album by Joni? Or was it released? I don't recall it on her early albums. Sorry if this was discussed already, but I looked back and couldn't find where it was." I rarely post without doing my homework/research/fact-checking, but I am going out on a limb here. I believe that I looked at this at one point in the past, and concluded to my satisfaction that Suzanne was written before Cohen/Mitchell became an item. That would make W of I something of a knockoff by Joni of an already written LC song. Which might also explain why she had the good sense not to record it. If I am wrong, I apologize to all (including Joni). Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:09:08 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Re: Wizard of Id vs Suzanne I was just researching some of what is known about Joni's relationship with Cohen. One source, 'Heck of a Guy - The Other Leonard Cohen Site', other being other than the official Leonard Cohen site, said that Judy Collins introduced Joni to Leonard at the Newport Folk Festival in 1967. Copyright on JoniMitchell.com for 'The Wizard of Is' says 1966. That would put it before the two met if what I read was accurate. According to Wikipedia, the song Suzanne was first recorded by Judy Collins on her 1966 album 'In My Life'. The lyrics were first released in Cohen's 1966 book of poetry, 'Parasites of Heaven'. So if all of that is true, it is possible that Joni had heard 'Suzanne' before she wrote 'The Wizard of Is'. Mark in Seattle Perhaps they had collaborated on developing the music and then she decided to let him have it instead of her? Or could she have written it first and then she let LC adapt it into Suzanne with his lyrics? And perhaps that is why it was never released on an album by Joni? Or was it released? I don't recall it on her early albums. Sorry if this was discussed already, but I looked back and couldn't find where it was." I rarely post without doing my homework/research/fact-checking, but I am going out on a limb here. I believe that I looked at this at one point in the past, and concluded to my satisfaction that Suzanne was written before Cohen/Mitchell became an item. That would make W of I something of a knockoff by Joni of an already written LC song. Which might also explain why she had the good sense not to record it. If I am wrong, I apologize to all (including Joni). Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2013 08:28:11 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Wizard of Is Hi Kevin, I don't know all there is to know about W of I (Catherine will love that), but I do know that she never released it on a record and that it sounds extremely similar to Suzanne. I also can say that it's never been covered. Speaking of covers, I'm trying to get Retro volume #80 up here but my PC is not cooperating... Bob ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #65 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe