From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #59 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, February 14 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 059 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: TS as Joni ["Mark" ] Re: TS is no Joni [shadows and light ] re: Howard mentions Joni, twice [c Karma ] Re: TS as Joni [Phyliss Ward ] Re: TS is no Joni [Dave Blackburn ] Re: TS is no Joni [Gerald Kent ] RE: TS is no Joni [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: TS is no Joni [Kevin Foehr ] TS as Joni [Sharon Watkins ] Re: TS is no Joni [Catherine McKay ] Re: She will never, never, never... [Shari Eaton ] RE: JMDL Digest V2013 #222 [Mary Morris ] =?UTF-8?Q?New_Library_item:_Whitney_Houston_Remembere?= =?UTF-8?Q?d_at_Clive_Davis=E2=80=99s_All_Star_Pre_Grammy_Bash?= [] New Library item: The show goes on [TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com] TS as Joni ["kbhla" ] Re: TS is no Joni [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: She will never, never, never... [Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: TS as Joni I don't really have anything against Taylor Swift personally and since I'm not 15, I'm not very likely to cotton much to her music. I have seen at least one interview with her and she seems to be quite likable and not overly self-obsessed. I'm sure the production for her stint opening the Grammy Awards was entirely out of her hands. So I can't really fault her for that either, if the truth be told. I've thought about this and my real problem is that I don't want to see a biopic made about Joni. Period. I just can't see it as being anything but a botch job. There have been a couple of attempts at TV movies about Elizabeth Taylor. I haven't seen either one of them so I'm no fair judge, although casting Lindsay Lohan as Elizabeth Taylor seems so laughable to begin with that I find it impossible not to have an 'attitude' about that particular project. But Elizabeth Taylor is someone else that I don't think anyone should ever even attempt to portray in a movie. Elizabeth's image will be preserved for as long as humans preserve motion pictures in one form or another and I just can't see anyone coming close to projecting the persona that she created, let alone the look of that face. Cate Blanchett managed to do justice to Katharine Hepburn, who is at least as great a legend as Elizabeth, in 'The Aviator'. But that was a supporting role. The film was about Howard Hughes, not Katharine Hepburn. But an entire movie about Kate Hepburn? Don't want to see it. Maybe the world at large doesn't have the same awareness of the talent and persona of Joni Mitchell as it does of Elizabeth Taylor. Maybe I'm sounding fanatical or obsessive about Joni. But for me her genius and utterly unique personality are impossible for anyone to successfully capture. And as far as singing is concerned, I don't know of anyone who could approach the vocal range, the depth of emotion or the honesty of Joni Mitchell in the days when her voice was still a pristine soprano. And as long as humans preserve recorded music in one form or another, the sound of Joni's voice and music will be preserved. But, then again, I'm no fair judge since I don't keep tabs on today's popular music. So what do I know? I resisted reading 'Girls Like Us' for a long time because of some of the more sensational excerpts from it I had seen. Like Kakki, they made me squirm. But I finally did read it. I learned a lot of things about all three singers that I didn't know, Carole King in particular. Also, as more time goes by, I see Sheila Weller's purpose in tying these three women's lives together. Superficially it would seem the only things they had in common were that they were all three singer/musician/songwriters and all three were connected with James Taylor. But I think Weller did manage to make her point that these three artists, each in her own way and out of her own experience, expressed a uniquely feminine point of view and helped shatter many of the restrictive 'rules' that women had felt compelled to live by for so many centuries. And, as many of us have said about Joni, they provided a soundtrack to the lives of many women (as well as men) as they gained maturity, confidence and power. How do you portray the glue that holds 'Girls Like Us' together in a movie without making it belabored or didactic? And, as Sharon pointed out, how could you even begin to tell the stories of those three women in the accepted time period of a commercially viable film? So I'm going to go one more step out onto my opinionated limb and say I don't think 'Girls Like Us' can be made into a movie that successfully captures the essence of the book. I also have to admit that had I never seen 'Lady Sings the Blues', inaccurate as it is, I might not have started to listen to Billie Holiday. So maybe a movie about Joni Mitchell would broaden her fan base. But from everything I've read about Billie, her status as a highly revered artist was conferred long before Diana Ross sang 'Good Morning Heartache'. Whether her recordings generate mass sales or not, the same can be said about Joni and Taylor Swift singing 'Help Me' or 'A Case of You' is not going to change that. Mark in Seattle - -----Original Message----- From: kbhla Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:18 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: TS as Joni I'm neutral on the casting of TS as Joni in Girls Like Us (though I love Catherine's suggestion of Jennifer Lawrence) and more concerned about how the film will portray the "National Enquirer" type tales from ex-lovers and husbands sourced in the book. Some of the stuff really made me squirm and felt pretty intrusive and, well, I'll stop there. As for Joni's Glam period - "everything comes and goes, marked by lovers and styles of clothes" ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:25:15 -0800 From: shadows and light Subject: Re: TS is no Joni we are all different snowflakes swirling ang falling to the ground. i know i couldn't believe it when diana ross was cast as billie holiday. to me billie was transcendent, ok bob, to me she sounded like a horn. and the riffs with her band. yeah! also LOVING motown, i had been singing along with the supremes, a totally different groove. yet people, who had never heard of billie, wanted to listen to her after seeing Lady Sings The Blues. so Diana did a good job i think. taylor's lyrics are the problem for me. not being a musician, i have been listening to the stories in joni's work. she tells a fine story. by the time joni was taylor's age she had written Urge for Going: . http://jonimitchell.com/music/song.cfm?id=71 . i think that might be the reason people are not thrilled. deep but this is just a bioptic. as bob says, it will make money. i believe that there will be many more movies about joni. maybe even one where joni wants to be involved. . On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:22 AM, wrote: > Not to mention that a major studio is going to employ makeup folks, > costume folks, lighting, camera lenses, etc in order to physically > duplicate Joni's look as best they can. > > Their objective is NOT to best capture Joni or project her genius, their > objective is to MAKE MONEY. Using TS as opposed to an unknown actress > locks them into a lot of box office. It was no mere coincidence that TS > kicked off the Grammys. Her involvement with Girls Like Us assures a > certain level of success. > > Make no mistake, everyone wants their work to be commercially successful. > Some artists, like Joni, refuse to compromise their artistic side (some of > her 80's stuff notwithstanding) in order to achieve that success, others > will do it in a heartbeat or in the case of film are mandated to do it by > the Producers who are funding the work expecting to reap a profit on their > investment. > > Bob > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:05:46 +0000 From: c Karma Subject: re: Howard mentions Joni, twice Makes me want to take a shower. CC ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 21:09:14 -0500 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: TS as Joni I hear you on the latter Kakki. Not my favorite portrayal of our dear Joan. Squirmy for sure. Phyliss On Feb 13, 2013, at 7:18 PM, "kbhla" wrote: > I'm neutral on the casting of TS as Joni in Girls Like Us (though I love > Catherine's suggestion of Jennifer Lawrence) and more concerned about how > the film will portray the "National Enquirer" type tales from ex-lovers and > husbands sourced in the book. Some of the stuff really made me squirm and > felt pretty intrusive and, well, I'll stop there. > > > > As for Joni's Glam period - "everything comes and goes, marked by lovers and > styles of clothes" ;-) > > > > Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 08:01:03 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: TS is no Joni Taylor Swift seems like a down to earth kind of girl despite her runaway success. If she has listened properly to Joni, which she surely has in anticipation of the role if offered, I would imagine she is TOTALLY aware of how diminutive her own talent is by comparison. Joni's fans know it and I'm sure TS does too. But it wouldn't make her turn down the gig. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:01:04 -0500 From: Gerald Kent Subject: Re: TS is no Joni I am sorry to disagree Kevin. In her early days joni was very much the "glamor girl" wearing silver mini skirts and very bright lip stick and looking incredibly good. I had the very great pleasure of seeing her in the village in her early 60's per California valley days. Sent from my iPad On Feb 13, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Kevin Foehr wrote: > Hi all, > > I haven't commented on this yet, but I am increasingly disappointed > that this idea of TS playing Joni persists. IMHO, TS is no Joni and shouldn't > play her. She will taint the representation of Joni with her own persona of > mainstream pop success, bright red lipstick, glam, etc. > > Joni was never > mainstream, and she was not into glam in the 60s. Look at her on the cover of > FTR; does that look like TS? And I don't mean just her physical features. > I'm talking about her clothes and make-up and the backdrop/location conveying > environmentalism, natural beauty, individuality (not glamorous fashion), > solitude, and peace. This is the image of Joni I would like to see conveyed > in the movie, if there is to be one, and imo, TS can't pull that off. > > Secondly, I really doubt TS would agree to play Joni at this point in her > career. I don't follow pop music these days, but it appears she is near the > top of the heap and near the zenith of her career, so I don't think she would > want to portray someone else. She would want to portray herself, if she did a > movie. I.e., I think she has become too big to play Joni (even though we know > she is no where close to being as great a talent / genius as Joni). > > I think > it would take an unknown actress to pull it off. Joni is unique, so imo, the > actress has to be a blank slate in order to paint Joni's unique persona and > story upon it. > > TS would always be TS in the movie, never Joni. So for TS to > play her would be a travesty. Joni deserves much better. And many who have > been fans of hers for decades, like me, would be deeply disappointed to see > her image besmirched by an inaccurate portrayal of her and her work and all > she has stood for. > > Kevin > > > ________________________________ > From: JMDL > Digest > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Sent: Tuesday, > February 12, 2013 1:26 PM > Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #225 > > > JMDL Digest > Tuesday, February 12 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 225 > > > > ========== > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #222 > [Catherine McKay ] > Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #222 > [LC Stanley ] > Re: She will never, never, > never... ["Randy Remote" Re: She will never, never, > never... [Shari Eaton ] > Re: She will never, never, > never...NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > New Library item: The show > goes on [TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com] > Re: She will never, never, > never... [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > > =?UTF-8?Q?New_Library_item:_Whitney_Houston_Remembere?= > =?UTF-8?Q?d_at_Clive_Davis=E2=80=99s_All_Star_Pre_Grammy_Bash?= [] > RE: JMDL > Digest V2013 #222 [Mary Morris ] > When? > [LC Stanley ] > Re: Piano > transcriptions! ["Randy Remote" ] > Re: She > will never, never, never... [Michael Flaherty Re: She > will never, never, never...NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > Re: She > will never, never, never...NJC [Shari Eaton Subject: RE: TS is no Joni Hi Gerald, I'm sure I'm not the only one who would love to hear about your experiences seeing Joni pre-California!!! Sue Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Kent Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:01 AM To: Kevin Foehr Cc: joni@smoe.org; sendtojoni@smoe.org Subject: Re: TS is no Joni I am sorry to disagree Kevin. In her early days joni was very much the "glamor girl" wearing silver mini skirts and very bright lip stick and looking incredibly good. I had the very great pleasure of seeing her in the village in her early 60's per California valley days. Sent from my iPad On Feb 13, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Kevin Foehr wrote: > Hi all, > > I haven't commented on this yet, but I am increasingly disappointed > that this idea of TS playing Joni persists. IMHO, TS is no Joni and > shouldn't play her. She will taint the representation of Joni with > her own persona of mainstream pop success, bright red lipstick, glam, etc. > > Joni was never > mainstream, and she was not into glam in the 60s. Look at her on the > cover of FTR; does that look like TS? And I don't mean just her physical features. > I'm talking about her clothes and make-up and the backdrop/location > conveying environmentalism, natural beauty, individuality (not > glamorous fashion), solitude, and peace. This is the image of Joni I > would like to see conveyed in the movie, if there is to be one, and imo, TS can't pull that off. > > Secondly, I really doubt TS would agree to play Joni at this point in > her career. I don't follow pop music these days, but it appears she > is near the top of the heap and near the zenith of her career, so I > don't think she would want to portray someone else. She would want to > portray herself, if she did a movie. I.e., I think she has become too > big to play Joni (even though we know she is no where close to being as great a talent / genius as Joni). > > I think > it would take an unknown actress to pull it off. Joni is unique, so > imo, the actress has to be a blank slate in order to paint Joni's > unique persona and story upon it. > > TS would always be TS in the movie, never Joni. So for TS to play her > would be a travesty. Joni deserves much better. And many who have > been fans of hers for decades, like me, would be deeply disappointed > to see her image besmirched by an inaccurate portrayal of her and her > work and all she has stood for. > > Kevin > > > ________________________________ > From: JMDL > Digest > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Sent: Tuesday, > February 12, 2013 1:26 PM > Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #225 > > > JMDL Digest > Tuesday, February 12 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 225 > > > > ========== > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #222 > [Catherine McKay ] > Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #222 > [LC Stanley ] > Re: She will never, never, > never... ["Randy Remote" Re: She will never, never, > never... [Shari Eaton ] > Re: She will never, never, > never...NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > New Library item: The show > goes on [TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com] > Re: She will never, never, > never... [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > > =?UTF-8?Q?New_Library_item:_Whitney_Houston_Remembere?= > =?UTF-8?Q?d_at_Clive_Davis=E2=80=99s_All_Star_Pre_Grammy_Bash?= [] > RE: JMDL > Digest V2013 #222 [Mary Morris ] > When? > [LC Stanley ] > Re: Piano > transcriptions! ["Randy Remote" ] > Re: She > will never, never, never... [Michael Flaherty Re: She > will never, never, never...NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > Re: She > will never, never, never...NJC [Shari Eaton Subject: Re: TS is no Joni Say it ain't so, Gerald. You guys are breaking my heart. She will always be, in my mind, the quintessential "earth mother" whose intelligence causes her to transcend mainstream culture, politics, and commercialization of her art. I don't think anyone who wrote lyrics like hers could be anything other than that. Besides, everyone (or very nearly so) was conservative and mainstream in the 50s and early 60s. She intellectually matured and became "liberated" in the mid 60s just like most other young people at that time. Andif money making is the objective of the movie, which I'm sure it is, then of course TS would be a great choice. And because the whole thing is out of our hands anyway, why are we even debating it? So let them do what they will with the movie; I'm happy with my Joni fantasies, and I'll shut-up now and return to them... ________________________________ From: Gerald Kent To: Kevin Foehr Cc: "joni@smoe.org" ; "sendtojoni@smoe.org" Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:01 AM Subject: Re: TS is no Joni I am sorry to disagree Kevin. In her early days joni was very much the "glamor girl" wearing silver mini skirts and very bright lip stick and looking incredibly good. I had the very great pleasure of seeing her in the village in her early 60's per California valley days. Sent from my iPad On Feb 13, 2013, at 9:33 AM, Kevin Foehr wrote: > Hi all, > > I haven't commented on this yet, but I am increasingly disappointed > that this idea of TS playing Joni persists. IMHO, TS is no Joni and shouldn't > play her. She will taint the representation of Joni with her own persona of > mainstream pop success, bright red lipstick, glam, etc. > > Joni was never > mainstream, and she was not into glam in the 60s. Look at her on the cover of > FTR; does that look like TS? And I don't mean just her physical features. > I'm talking about her clothes and make-up and the backdrop/location conveying > environmentalism, natural beauty, individuality (not glamorous fashion), > solitude, and peace. This is the image of Joni I would like to see conveyed > in the movie, if there is to be one, and imo, TS can't pull that off. > > Secondly, I really doubt TS would agree to play Joni at this point in her > career. I don't follow pop music these days, but it appears she is near the > top of the heap and near the zenith of her career, so I don't think she would > want to portray someone else. She would want to portray herself, if she did a > movie. I.e., I think she has become too big to play Joni (even though we know > she is no where close to being as great a talent / genius as Joni). > > I think > it would take an unknown actress to pull it off. Joni is unique, so imo, the > actress has to be a blank slate in order to paint Joni's unique persona and > story upon it. > > TS would always be TS in the movie, never Joni. So for TS to > play her would be a travesty. Joni deserves much better. And many who have > been fans of hers for decades, like me, would be deeply disappointed to see > her image besmirched by an inaccurate portrayal of her and her work and all > she has stood for. > > Kevin > > > ________________________________ > From: JMDL > Digest > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Sent: Tuesday, > February 12, 2013 1:26 PM > Subject: JMDL Digest V2013 #225 > > > JMDL Digest > Tuesday, February 12 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 225 > > > > ========== > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #222 > [Catherine McKay ] > Re: JMDL Digest V2013 #222 > [LC Stanley ] > Re: She will never, never, > never... ["Randy Remote" Re: She will never, never, > never... [Shari Eaton ] > Re: She will never, never, > never...NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > New Library item: The show > goes on [TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com] > Re: She will never, never, > never... [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > > =?UTF-8?Q?New_Library_item:_Whitney_Houston_Remembere?= > =?UTF-8?Q?d_at_Clive_Davis=E2=80=99s_All_Star_Pre_Grammy_Bash?= [] > RE: JMDL > Digest V2013 #222 [Mary Morris ] > When? > [LC Stanley ] > Re: Piano > transcriptions! ["Randy Remote" ] > Re: She > will never, never, never... [Michael Flaherty Re: She > will never, never, never...NJC [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > Re: She > will never, never, never...NJC [Shari Eaton Subject: TS as Joni I swore I would never post on JMDL again, but here are my thoughts on the matter: 1. I still don't think it's confirmed that TS has the role of Joni. It was mentioned in Variety, but TS herself has never confirmed that she was offered the role. If she really had the role, I don't think she could keep quiet about it. 2. If this movie ever gets made, it has to tell the stories of three recording artists within approximately 2 hours, meaning that approximately 40 minutes will be devoted to each person. 3. Assuming the entire range of the book is to be covered, each singer's allotted 40 minutes has to cover childhood through the present. 4. Assuming #3 is true, the movie will do justice to neither Joni, Carole nor Carly. How can their life stories possibly be distilled into 40 minutes? Impossible! But in my biased opinion, especially Joni's, as I believe she's infinitely more talented than Carole and Carly. 5. The only possible way to even remotely develop each character is to focus on a limited time span within Girls Like Us, much as Speilberg did when making Lincoln from Team of Rivals. 6. Assuming # 5 is true, the movie will still only hit a few highlights for each singer. So TS would have so little screen time, it probably doesn't make a dime's worth of difference if she plays Joni or not. 7. I vote for a full out biopic on Joni alone, along the lines of those for Ray Charles and Johnny Cash. She deserves this. Cast an unknown after a vast casting call and maybe check out some singers from premier music schools like Berklee etc!! Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 09:29:50 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: TS is no Joni In Katherine Monk's book, she says it was David Crosby who encouraged Joni to tone down the glam and start looking more earth-mother-hippy-girl. Before that, she was all about false eyelashes and makeup and glittery mini-skirts. No matter who plays Joni, one hopes they will do what they can to make her look and sound as much like Joni as possible. I just hope they use a good vocal/accent coach who won't make her sound like the parody of Canadians we so often hear on American TV, with the "aboots" and the "ehs." >________________________________ > From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" >To: Gerald Kent >Cc: "joni@smoe.org" ; Kevin Foehr >Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:22:14 AM >Subject: Re: TS is no Joni > >Not to mention that a major studio is going to employ makeup folks, >costume folks, lighting, camera lenses, etc in order to physically >duplicate Joni's look as best they can. > >Their objective is NOT to best capture Joni or project her genius, their >objective is to MAKE MONEY. Using TS as opposed to an unknown actress >locks them into a lot of box office. It was no mere coincidence that TS >kicked off the Grammys. Her involvement with Girls Like Us assures a >certain level of success. > >Make no mistake, everyone wants their work to be commercially successful. >Some artists, like Joni, refuse to compromise their artistic side (some of >her 80's stuff notwithstanding) in order to achieve that success, others >will do it in a heartbeat or in the case of film are mandated to do it by >the Producers who are funding the work expecting to reap a profit on their >investment. > >Bob >------------------------------------------------------------ >The information transmitted is intended only for the person >or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. >If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are >hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, >distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon >this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please >contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > >Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual >sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. >------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 07:33:05 -0800 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: She will never, never, never... Personally, I'm not expecting to enjoy the film and I don't have much emotional investment in Taylor Swift either way so I'm really impartial. It's just sad where the industry has gone. You have to admit it's a pretty extreme and ugly change. Comparing popular music of the 30s to the 70s isn't as ridiculous as our current comparison. Never has it been so downright dollar led. Taylor is only as successful as she is because of that schism. This isn't justjared.com. I'm about as interested in discussing Miss Swift as I am gnawing off my arm. We don't have a say in who will play Joni. (Do we?) So I wouldn't mind putting this topic to bed. Or at least down for a long afternoon nap. Sent from my Pimped-out Flying Carpet On Feb 12, 2013, at 6:41 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > Well stated, Dan - I don't think we ever are successful trying to build > someone up by tearing someone else down. And as Randy said, the comparison > is not even very legitimate. Comparing the music industry in 2013 to the > music business in 1972 is like comparing 1972 to 40 years prior. And who > would compare popular music and artists of the 30's to music of the 70's? > You could but it doesn't make a lot of sense. Joni is who she is and > Taylor is who she is. Both are successful in their own right. > > Bob > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. 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MORRIS ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:01:43 -0700 (MST) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?New_Library_item:_Whitney_Houston_Remembere?= =?UTF-8?Q?d_at_Clive_Davis=E2=80=99s_All_Star_Pre_Grammy_Bash?= Title: Whitney Houston Remembered at Clive Davisbs All Star Pre Grammy Bash Publication: Showbiz 411 Date: 2013.2.10 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2547 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 10:24:25 -0700 (MST) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: The show goes on Title: The show goes on Publication: Daily Mail Date: 2013.02.09 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2548 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 16:18:08 -0800 From: "kbhla" Subject: TS as Joni I'm neutral on the casting of TS as Joni in Girls Like Us (though I love Catherine's suggestion of Jennifer Lawrence) and more concerned about how the film will portray the "National Enquirer" type tales from ex-lovers and husbands sourced in the book. Some of the stuff really made me squirm and felt pretty intrusive and, well, I'll stop there. As for Joni's Glam period - "everything comes and goes, marked by lovers and styles of clothes" ;-) Kakki ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 13:33:30 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: TS is no Joni taylor's lyrics are the problem for me. > Thanks Leslie, this gave me a big laugh. Trust me, I am IN NO WAY trying to compare TS' composition skills, lyrically or musically, to those of Joni. I haven't seen anything from TS that begs the comparison. She's not going to be singing HER songs in this movie anyway (and as Richard so accurately points out it may never be green-lighted anyway), so HER abilities as a songwriter don't enter the picture, moving or otherwise. As for her voice, there would be considerations there no doubt unless they use other vocals and dub in over her. The technology they have access to these days has come a long way since they had another vocalist covering for Natalie Wood in West Side Story. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. 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