From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #34 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Saturday, January 26 2013 Volume 2013 : Number 034 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Sharon [Bob Muller ] Re: Lyrics [David Lahm ] Re: Joni on the town ["Eaton, Shari" ] Fiddle and the drum question [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Fiddle and the drum question [Catherine McKay ] Re: Lyrics [Richard Flynn ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 05:12:23 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Sharon Rob, Her married name is Veer. Bob ________________________________ From: Robert Procyk To: "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:47 PM Subject: Sharon Hey Listas - I should know this but I can't remember: what is Sharon Bell's married name? I just realized that a coworker is actually FROM Maidstone, so I am going to drop names without seeming too Joni freakish. Rob Sent from my iPhone ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 17:35:34 -0500 From: David Lahm Subject: Re: Lyrics Isn't there a (slight) pause in the vocal after the word (which sounds like) "fall?" To my ear, no way she meant "follow." To say nothing of the line "...you are fighting us all." LAHM On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:52 PM, wrote: > >I got to wondering whether the line "you raise your sticks and cry and I > fall, oh my friend" might in fact be "and I follow, my friend." To me that > makes more sense, as America tends to strongarm its allies into going along > with its foreign wars. Do we know authoritatively that it is "fall"?> > > No, we don't know any lyrics authoritatively. If I remember right, we were > hopefully anticipating the complete book of lyrics and poems but it did not > update "buoy winds" to "bully winds". > > While this is disappointing, it also allows you to interpret as you will. > > I like your interpretation because Canada is not attacked by the US. > Instead > Canada is dragged along, into the fight. She calls Johnny "my good friend" > after all. > > Jim L ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 10:41:48 -0800 From: "Eaton, Shari" Subject: Re: Joni on the town https://www.facebook.com/pages/Joni-Mitchell-Fans There are additional photos from this gallery show there. On Jan 25, 2013, at 9:50 AM, Moni Kellermann wrote: > Alexander Yulish ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 16:15:38 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Fiddle and the drum question Hi guys, We're working on The fiddle and the drum and I got to wondering whether the line "you raise your sticks and cry and I fall, oh my friend" might in fact be "and I follow, my friend." To me that makes more sense, as America tends to strongarm its allies into going along with its foreign wars. Do we know authoritatively that it is "fall"? To listen to it it could definitely be either. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 20:30:05 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Fiddle and the drum question Maybe, but the pronunciation doesn't sound right: it would be I folLOW, in that case, which is too awkward, IMO, to be Joni. I understood that the person falling was the one struck by the stick (the enemy du jour, in other words.) >________________________________ > From: Dave Blackburn >To: JMDL JMDL >Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:15:38 PM >Subject: Fiddle and the drum question > >Hi guys, > >We're working on The fiddle and the drum and I got to wondering whether the line "you raise your sticks and cry and I fall, oh my friend" might in fact be "and I follow, my friend." To me that makes more sense, as America tends to strongarm its allies into going along with its foreign wars. Do we know authoritatively that it is "fall"? To listen to it it could definitely be either. > >Dave ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2013 21:23:36 -0500 From: Richard Flynn Subject: Re: Lyrics I think that the lyrics as printed on the gatefold are "I fall, / Oh my friend" and the repetition "we fall, / Of my friend" is definitive evidence against "follow." Richard Flynn Professor of Literature Georgia Southern University https://sites.google.com/a/georgiasouthern.edu/rflynn/ On Jan 25, 2013, at 5:35 PM, David Lahm wrote: > Isn't there a (slight) pause in the vocal after the word (which sounds > like) "fall?" To my ear, no way she meant "follow." To say nothing of the > line "...you are fighting us all." > > LAHM > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:52 PM, wrote: > >>> I got to wondering whether the line "you raise your sticks and cry and I >> fall, oh my friend" might in fact be "and I follow, my friend." To me that >> makes more sense, as America tends to strongarm its allies into going along >> with its foreign wars. Do we know authoritatively that it is "fall"?> >> >> No, we don't know any lyrics authoritatively. If I remember right, we were >> hopefully anticipating the complete book of lyrics and poems but it did not >> update "buoy winds" to "bully winds". >> >> While this is disappointing, it also allows you to interpret as you will. >> >> I like your interpretation because Canada is not attacked by the US. >> Instead >> Canada is dragged along, into the fight. She calls Johnny "my good friend" >> after all. >> >> Jim L ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2013 #34 ******************************** ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe