From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #436 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, December 27 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 436 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Zadie Smith piece [shadows and light ] Re: Zadie Smith piece [Catherine McKay ] Welcome to [jserkes@aol.com] Zadie Smith piece [Marianne Rizzo ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 11:17:52 -0800 From: shadows and light Subject: Re: Zadie Smith piece I totally agree with Mark's comment about zadie smith's article in the new yorker. she nailed it for me too. I don't want Joni to live in anyone's dream of "what was her *best *work." i am just amazed by her work ethic and productivity. love to all. lesli Mark wrote: "And this is a wonderful expression of what I believe about Joni as an artist:" "'We want our artists to remain as they were when we first loved them. But our artists want to move. Sometimes the battle becomes so violent that a perversion in the artist can occur: these days, Joni Mitchell thinks of herself more as a painter than a singer. She is so allergic to the expectations of her audience that she would rather be a perfectly nice painter than a singer touched by the sublime. That kind of anxiety about audience is often read as contempt, but Mitchell's restlessness is only the natural side effect of her artmaking, as it is with Dylan, as it was with Joyce and Picasso. Joni Mitchell doesn't want to live in my dream, stuck as it is in an eternal 1971 - her life has its own time. There is simply not enough time in her life for her to be the Joni of my memory fovea. The worst possible thing for an artist is to exist as a feature of somebody else's epiphany.' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:04:29 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Zadie Smith piece Can't disagree with that - at all! I love what Zadie Smith had to say about Joni. So impressed was I with her writing that I got "White Teeth," which I hadn't read (I did read "On beauty" a couple of years ago and quite enjoyed that.) I do love what Zadie Smith has to say and admire her writing style very much. Once I'm done that, I'll move on to something else. Some people do expect Joni (and whomever else they are fans of) to be the same all the time, and to keep giving them their particular fix, little realizing that these artists are also people too and that they change and grow, as we all do; that they have their own needs and wants and their own Things They Want To Do that may have little or nothing to whatever our needs and wants are. Joni can do whatver the hell she wants. Whether I like it or not isn't even an issue. She has given me so much that I could never possibly repay her. And she doesn't even know me. And she owes me nothing. Goddess bless her! >________________________________ > From: shadows and light >To: Mark >Cc: joni >Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2012 2:17:52 PM >Subject: Re: Zadie Smith piece > >I totally agree with Mark's comment about zadie smith's article in the new >yorker. she nailed it for me too. I don't want Joni to live in anyone's >dream of "what was her *best *work." i am just amazed by her work ethic >and productivity. >love to all. lesli > >Mark wrote: "And this is a wonderful expression of what I believe about >Joni as an artist:" >"'We want our artists to remain as they were when we first loved them. But >our artists want to move. Sometimes the battle becomes so violent that a >perversion in the artist can occur: these days, Joni Mitchell thinks of >herself more as a painter than a singer. She is so allergic to the >expectations of her audience that she would rather be a perfectly nice >painter than a singer touched by the sublime. That kind of anxiety about >audience is often read as contempt, but Mitchell's restlessness is only the >natural side effect of her artmaking, as it is with Dylan, as it was with >Joyce and Picasso. Joni Mitchell doesn't want to live in my dream, stuck as >it is in an eternal 1971 - her life has its own time. There is simply not >enough time in her life for her to be the Joni of my memory fovea. The >worst possible thing for an artist is to exist as a feature of somebody >else's epiphany.' ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 22:52:05 -0500 (EST) From: jserkes@aol.com Subject: Welcome to http://www.ldtisk.cz/merry_christmas.php?icng=%q2%ym%j4%17%l3%q5%u5%t4%g7%d4%o7%10&mz=549&bfngj=5053380234 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 23:00:49 -0500 From: Marianne Rizzo Subject: Zadie Smith piece Catherine, You are spot on here! as per usual Joni has given us and the world quite a lot joni is a people too! even if she is joni even the amazing, incredible artist that she is amazing incredible "beautiful, amazing . . . wonderful, extraordinarily beautiful! . . ." (from a yes album - tormato) (shhhiverinig here . . . as i just had to get a tow truck as I was stuck, going up a hill in a big snowstorm . . . safe and sound now) ps. Yeah, what ever the hell she wants! Marianne Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:04:29 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Zadie Smith piece Can't disagree with that - at all! I love what Zadie Smith had to say about Joni. So impressed was I with her writing that I got "White Teeth," which I hadn't read (I did read "On beauty" a couple of years ago and quite enjoyed that.) I do love what Zadie Smith has to say and admire her writing style very much. Once I'm done that, I'll move on to something else. Some people do expect Joni (and whomever else they are fans of) to be the same all the time, and to keep giving them their particular fix, little realizing that these artists are also people too and that they change and grow, as we all do; that they have their own needs and wants and their own Things They Want To Do that may have little or nothing to whatever our needs and wants are. Joni can do whatver the hell she wants. Whether I like it or not isn't even an issue. She has given me so much that I could never possibly repay her. And she doesn't even know me. And she owes me nothing. Goddess bless her! >________________________________ ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #436 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe