From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #435 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, December 26 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 435 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Zadie Smith piece ["Mark" ] girls like us [shadows and light ] RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #1873 [Mary Morris ] holiday wishes [shadows and light ] RE: I Think I Understand ["Richard Flynn" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 12:29:18 -0800 From: "Mark" Subject: Zadie Smith piece I just got around to reading this piece this morning. This captures so beautifully the way Joni's music affects me: 'This is the effect that listening to Joni Mitchell has on me these days: uncontrollable tears. An emotional overcoming, disconcertingly distant from happiness, more like joy - if joy is the recognition of an almost intolerable beauty. It's not a very civilized emotion. I can't listen to Joni Mitchell in a room with other people, or on an iPod, walking the streets. Too risky. I can never guarantee that I'm going to be able to get through the song without being made transparent - to anybody and everything, to the whole world. A mortifying sense of porousness. Although it's comforting to learn that the feeling I have listening to these songs is the same feeling the artist had while creating them: "At that period of my life, I had no personal defences. I felt like a cellophane wrapper on a pack of cigarettes." That's Mitchell, speaking of the fruitful years between Ginsberg at the abbey and 1971, when her classic album "Blue" was released.' And this is a wonderful expression of what I believe about Joni as an artist: 'We want our artists to remain as they were when we first loved them. But our artists want to move. Sometimes the battle becomes so violent that a perversion in the artist can occur: these days, Joni Mitchell thinks of herself more as a painter than a singer. She is so allergic to the expectations of her audience that she would rather be a perfectly nice painter than a singer touched by the sublime. That kind of anxiety about audience is often read as contempt, but Mitchell's restlessness is only the natural side effect of her artmaking, as it is with Dylan, as it was with Joyce and Picasso. Joni Mitchell doesn't want to live in my dream, stuck as it is in an eternal 1971 - her life has its own time. There is simply not enough time in her life for her to be the Joni of my memory fovea. The worst possible thing for an artist is to exist as a feature of somebody else's epiphany.' Merry Christmas to all who celebrate it. Mark in Seattl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 09:05:31 -0800 From: shadows and light Subject: girls like us with all due respect to those who are rooting for taylor swift, who would bring joni exposure to her fan base, i hope a trained actress plays joni. imo, joni deserves this. hair and cheekbones can be altered, buts joni's expressive face, and body language speak volumes to me. On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > I am also in the camp of hoping that a great actress plays Joni and not > just someone who might look like her and sings too. ISusan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:02:29 -0800 From: Mary Morris Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #1873 From your lipes to god's ear - whoever he or she may be & whatever actress plays Joni better start learning some depth. GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel road, where the barb wire meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS > Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:24:21 -0500 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1873 > > > JMDL Digest Monday, December 24 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1873 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: girls like us [Dan Olson ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:23:52 -0600 > From: Dan Olson > Subject: Re: girls like us > > Did anyone else see the Taylor Swift profile on 60 minutes last night? I > think that TS is not nearly as shallow as many on this list seem to think. > Rather than sing others' songs, she essentially struck out on her own at > age 14 in order to sing and play only her songs. Her lyrics strike a > tremendous emotional chord with her fans (teenage girls/young women), and > she is a great role model. She has accomplished everything she could have > dreamt of doing musically by age 21 (she's worth $200 million). I have no > doubt that if she were to play Joni, she would utilize all of her talents > to excel at it, and she would be doing it for the right reasons (reverence > for Joni and her legacy, not for the money). > > ~Dan > > On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 11:05 AM, shadows and light < > cloudhidden101@gmail.com> wrote: > > > with all due respect to those who are rooting for taylor swift, who would > > bring joni exposure to her fan base, i hope a trained actress plays joni. > > imo, joni deserves this. > > hair and cheekbones can be altered, buts joni's expressive face, and body > > language speak volumes to me. > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara > >wrote: > > > > > I am also in the camp of hoping that a great actress plays Joni and not > > > just someone who might look like her and sings too. ISusan Tierney > > McNamara > > > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1873 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 09:09:46 -0800 From: shadows and light Subject: holiday wishes thank you all dear hearts for all you've taught me about, music and the human condition. and i'm coming back for more, i'm coming for more. i've sure met a lot great folks here. light and warmth to you. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 12:13:41 -0500 From: "Richard Flynn" Subject: RE: I Think I Understand Congratulations! So happy for you! >>>On another note, Travis and I are getting married on the 28th, 17 years after we made the decision to live together. It will only be a civil ceremony before a judge, but we are getting *married*! Have a Happy Solstice! Mark in Seattle 'Applause, applause, life is our cause! ' ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #435 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe