From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #412 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, December 5 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 412 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1735 [Lindsay Moon ] Re: Katherine Monk's book [jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com] Re: Katherine Monk's book [Catherine McKay ] Re: New Joni ballet to premiere in May 2014 [Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1735 Why can I imagine Joni writing "cliche!" all over this! ; ) Lindsay On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:12 AM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, December 5 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1735 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: The Lucky One [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 09:05:39 -0500 > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com > Subject: Re: The Lucky One > > Betsy, > > I would argue that it is - there are certainly enough clues...(a sixties > queen, chose the rose garden, your secrets (Kilauren) end up splashed on > the news). > > Bob > > > > > From: Betsy > To: joni@smoe.org > Date: 12/04/2012 10:45 PM > Subject: The Lucky One > Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org > > > > Is Taylor's song about Joni??? That's the rumor. I think it sounds pretty > generic, but how could you blame the girl for being obsessed? (Chorus > repeats > removed.) > > New to town with a made up name in the angel's city, chasing fortune and > fame > And the camera flashes, make it look like a dream > You had it figured out since you were in school > Everybody loves pretty, everybody loves cool > So over night, you look like a sixties queen > Another name goes up in lights > Like diamonds in the sky > > And they'll tell you now, you're the lucky one > Yeah, they'll tell you now, you're the lucky one > But can you tell me now, you're the lucky one? > Oh, oh, oh > > Now it's big black cars and Riviera views > And your lover in the foyer doesn't even know you > And your secrets end up, splashed on the news front page > And they tell you that you're lucky but you're so confused > Cause you don't feel pretty, you just feel used > And all the young things line up to take your place > Another name goes up in lights > You wonder if you'll make it out alive > > It was a few years later, I showed up here > And they still the legend of how you disappeared > They took the money and your dignity and got the hell out > > They say you bought a bunch of land somewhere > Chose the rose garden over Madison Square > And it took some time but I understand it now > Cause now my name is up in lights > But I think you got it right > > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > - ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1735 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 14:59:26 -0500 From: jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com Subject: Re: Katherine Monk's book I thought it was jarring when she suddenly said, "As I was researching this book..." Jim L Sent from my iPhone > From: Catherine McKay < I find it mostly enjoyable, > but occasionally a bit jarring, where the writer moves from writing fairly > objectively in a third-person style, to making subjective comments, reminding > me that the writer is *there.* ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 15:38:17 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Katherine Monk's book That was news to me too. I didn't realize she was a Nietschze fan from way back. I thought the eagle/serpent thing was a native thing (thinking of the Mexican flag), but then again, the eagle is used by Christians to represent John the Evangelist. I also remember seeing statues of the Virgin Mary stepping on a snake - perhaps the snake that tempted Eve. So, those symbols have been around for a long time. I've never read Nietschze. Is he readable? I really only know of him through Joni, and through the Richard Strauss music, "Also sprach Zarathustra" (the music used at the beginning of 2001: A Space Odyssey.) Apparently the eagle and snake (along with the scorpion) are also symbols of the astrological sign Scorpio (Joni's sign), so, of course, Joni being Joni, there are multiple meanings. >________________________________ > From: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" >To: Catherine McKay >Cc: Deb Messling ; "joni@smoe.org" >Sent: Wednesday, December 5, 2012 1:02:45 PM >Subject: Re: Katherine Monk's book > > >Right, I hear you - for me the biggest revelation was just how much Joni lifted from Nietschze. Not to call Joni a plagiarist (as she has done to Dylan), but just to reset my previous (mis)conception that the relative lyrics were not original. For instance the whole Eagle-Serpent thing. > >Bob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 12:57:46 -0500 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: New Joni ballet to premiere in May 2014 My birthday is in May too, Bob? On Dec 2, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Anita wrote: > May 8th 2014, my 60 th birthday. Just dropping hints to Steph........ > > Anita x ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #412 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe