From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #399 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Friday, November 23 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 399 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Songs with Larry Carlton [Anita ] Re: Songs with Larry Carlton [Bob Muller ] Re: Songs with Larry Carlton [Dave Blackburn ] Re: Review of "The Studio Albums 1968-1979" boxset [David Lahm ] can you please unsubscribe me [Jeannie ] Re: Similes and metaphors (Furry) [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Graham Nash and Blue [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 [Catherine McKay ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 [Stdoherty ] Re: Geffen documentary link [Michael Paz ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:04:03 +0000 From: Anita Subject: Re: Songs with Larry Carlton Having had a stab at playing Amelia with several excellent guitarists, I would say Carlton's touches are exquisite on said great track. Instead of playing a lick or something chord based,he weaves a soundscape that is brilliantly evocative,spacious yet subtle, mysterious and haunting. Absolutely brilliant. Anita x On 22 Nov 2012, at 05:35, jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com wrote: > A friend of mine took some classes in jazz guitar back in the day. When I asked him if he's ever heard of Larry Carlton he thought I was pulling his leg ( as we say in the USA. I guess in the uk I would say he thought I was having him on). > > So I'm thinking of making a short compilation of Joni songs that have interesting bits played by Carlton. So far, I want to use Car On A Hill. What's your favorite? I think he was on djrd, thosl, and Hejira. > > Jim L ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 06:55:12 -0800 (PST) From: Bob Muller Subject: Re: Songs with Larry Carlton Throw in his gentle acoustic work on Blue Motel Room contrasted with the pulsing blast of his electric on Black Crow. His meandering tuneful licks on A Strange Boy. Sweet Bird is just Carlton's guitar and Joni. He's also on Otis and Marlena and as you say all over Court and Spark. All are worthy tracks to be sure. Bob ________________________________ From: "jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com" To: JMDL Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2012 12:35 AM Subject: Songs with Larry Carlton A friend of mine took some classes in jazz guitar back in the day. When I asked him if he's ever heard of Larry Carlton he thought I was pulling his leg ( as we say in the USA. I guess in the uk I would say he thought I was having him on). So I'm thinking of making a short compilation of Joni songs that have interesting bits played by Carlton. So far, I want to use Car On A Hill. What's your favorite? I think he was on djrd, thosl, and Hejira. Jim L ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:20:26 -0800 From: Dave Blackburn Subject: Re: Songs with Larry Carlton Car on a Hill is was Wayne Perkins on guitar, Jim. Apart from Larry's own solo albums (the early ones like Room 335 and Strikes Twice) he plays some beautiful jazz guitar on Donald Fagen's Walk Between the Raindrops and of course is one of the principals on Steely Dan's Aja, The Royal Scam, and Gaucho. His solo on Kid Charlemagne stands as one of the most perfect guitar solos in all of rock and has been studied and transcribed in minute detail. On Joni's records he's usually more of a gorgeous watercolorist (Amelia or The Same Situation being good examples, or Otis and Marlena.) On Nov 21, 2012, at 9:35 PM, jlhommedieu@insight.rr.com wrote: > A friend of mine took some classes in jazz guitar back in the day. When I asked him if he's ever heard of Larry Carlton he thought I was pulling his leg ( as we say in the USA. I guess in the uk I would say he thought I was having him on). > > So I'm thinking of making a short compilation of Joni songs that have interesting bits played by Carlton. So far, I want to use Car On A Hill. What's your favorite? I think he was on djrd, thosl, and Hejira. > > Jim L ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 07:55:45 -0500 From: David Lahm Subject: Re: Review of "The Studio Albums 1968-1979" boxset The review adequately acknowledged her stature as a lyricist but fell way short on the praise she deserves as a composer of music. DAVID LAHM On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:15 AM, Joe Jones wrote: > Hi, > > Greeting from rainy, windy Wales - beautiful weather yesterday though. > > The Daily Telegraph has a review of the recent The Studio Albums 1968-1979 > boxset. > > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/cdreviews/9655783/The-Studio-Albums-1968-1979-by-Joni-Mitchell-review.html > > Cheers - Joe > > np - Barton Hollow - The Civil Wars > > -- > -- > Joe Jones > +44 7831 914094 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 09:22:27 -0800 From: shadows and light Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 i think sue mc nailed it. jean shrimpton. lesli On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > > http://www.justjaredjr.com/2012/11/12/taylor-swift-harpers-bazaar-december-2012-cover-girl/ > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anita [mailto:lawntreader@googlemail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:42 AM > To: Susan Tierney McNamara > Cc: Catherine McKay; Stdoherty; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 > > Does anyone still have the link?Can't find original post > > Anita (coughing and spluttering with man flu) > > > > > On 20 Nov 2012, at 15:01, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > > > I see this photo shoot as Taylor dressed in what the fashion industry > thinks is the retro 70s look ... especially the shot where she is leaning > on the chair in the dark beige wide leg creased pants. It makes her look > more like Jean Shrimpton than Joni. > > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Catherine McKay > > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:37 AM > > To: Stdoherty; joni@smoe.org > > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 > > > > I didn't see it either, even though I tried to be open-minded about it. > But, I suppose, for those who aren't familiar with Joni, simply having the > editors say she's "channelling Joni" would be enough to make it so. > >> ________________________________ > >> From: Stdoherty > >> To: > > joni@smoe.org > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:12:35 AM > >> Subject: Re: > > onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 > >> > >> I don't think those photos of Swift as "Joni" > > look like her at all - what's > >> more - the clothes don't seem like her either. > > This isjust bad all the way > >> around. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:47:34 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 Thanks Lesli. I'm grateful someone else here remembers who Jean Shrimpton is!! :) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu From: shadows and light [mailto:cloudhidden101@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 12:22 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: Anita; Catherine McKay; Stdoherty; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 i think sue mc nailed it. jean shrimpton. lesli On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 9:10 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara > wrote: http://www.justjaredjr.com/2012/11/12/taylor-swift-harpers-bazaar-december-20 12-cover-girl/ Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: Anita [mailto:lawntreader@googlemail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:42 AM To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: Catherine McKay; Stdoherty; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 Does anyone still have the link?Can't find original post Anita (coughing and spluttering with man flu) On 20 Nov 2012, at 15:01, Susan Tierney McNamara > wrote: > I see this photo shoot as Taylor dressed in what the fashion industry thinks is the retro 70s look ... especially the shot where she is leaning on the chair in the dark beige wide leg creased pants. It makes her look more like Jean Shrimpton than Joni. > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:37 AM > To: Stdoherty; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 > > I didn't see it either, even though I tried to be open-minded about it. But, I suppose, for those who aren't familiar with Joni, simply having the editors say she's "channelling Joni" would be enough to make it so. >> ________________________________ >> From: Stdoherty > >> To: > joni@smoe.org >> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:12:35 AM >> Subject: Re: > onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 >> >> I don't think those photos of Swift as "Joni" > look like her at all - what's >> more - the clothes don't seem like her either. > This isjust bad all the way >> around. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 14:57:54 -0600 From: Jeannie Subject: can you please unsubscribe me Thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 13:55:46 -0500 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Similes and metaphors (Furry) Are you speaking specifically about similes-turned-metaphors, or just both in general? She certainly uses both quite a bit on HOSL and Hejira. Bob From: Betsy To: joni@smoe.org Date: 11/20/2012 01:43 PM Subject: Similes and metaphors (Furry) Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org Can I get the language lovers' comments on this similie-turned-metaphor? "Pawn shops glitter like gold tooth caps...They chew the last few dollars off Old Beale Street's carcass." Is this device common in Joni's or others' writing? I feel like it draws in the listener or reader very effectively. Betsy - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:21:50 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: Graham Nash and Blue Interesting ... well if Graham Nash doesn't know which songs off Blue are written about him, how bold of us to think we know!!! :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Shari Eaton Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:39 AM To: joni@smoe.org LIST Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 "This is the frustration we have to endure: younger people with different priorities take control of the culture which we experienced first-hand and, whether innocently or cynically, re-write it for their own world." Well written, David. Looks like the role isn't confirmed anyhow. She sure is milking it though. http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/taylor-swift-joni-mitchell-biopic-rol e-not-confirmed-20121022 There is other Joni news. Graham Nash wrote a book in which he speaks of his experience with her. http://www.showbiz411.com/2012/11/15/graham-nash-listening-to-joni-mitchells- blue-is-quite-difficult-for-me-personally Shari On Nov 20, 2012, at 7:01 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > I see this photo shoot as Taylor dressed in what the fashion industry > thinks is the retro 70s look ... especially the shot where she is leaning on the chair in the dark beige wide leg creased pants. It makes her look more like Jean Shrimpton than Joni. > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Catherine McKay > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:37 AM > To: Stdoherty; joni@smoe.org > Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 > > I didn't see it either, even though I tried to be open-minded about > it. But, I suppose, for those who aren't familiar with Joni, simply having the editors say she's "channelling Joni" would be enough to make it so. >> ________________________________ >> From: Stdoherty >> To: > joni@smoe.org >> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:12:35 AM >> Subject: Re: > onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 >> >> I don't think those photos of Swift as "Joni" > look like her at all - what's >> more - the clothes don't seem like her either. > This isjust bad all the way >> around. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 06:36:56 -0800 (PST) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 I didn't see it either, even though I tried to be open-minded about it. But, I suppose, for those who aren't familiar with Joni, simply having the editors say she's "channelling Joni" would be enough to make it so. >________________________________ > From: Stdoherty >To: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 6:12:35 AM >Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 > >I don't think those photos of Swift as "Joni" look like her at all - what's >more - the clothes don't seem like her either. This isjust bad all the way >around. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 21:07:28 -0500 (EST) From: Stdoherty Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 Right ... it looked like they were trying to tone down Twiggy by calling in Edie Sedgwick. Joni never relied on on Carnaby Street or the Factory scene to frame her style ... any eye for detail would have caught a little lace along the seam. - -----Original Message----- From: Bob.Muller To: Catherine McKay Cc: joni ; Stdoherty Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 9:57 am Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #396 I didn't see it either, even though I tried to be open-mindedabout it> Same here...I squinted, looked at thepictures from a distance, and I NEVER saw much of a resemblance. Of course,makeup and costumes and special effects can make anything work. I say we're being SWIFTboated! Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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