From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #369 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, October 31 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 369 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Shelagh McDonald and Linda Perhacs ["Eaton, Shari" ] Re: Anyone know a Joni song 'Two Houses'? [Anita G ] George Lucas sells "Star Wars" franchise and Lucasfilm Ltd. ["Jim L'Homme] Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1622 [TERRY COOK ] Re: Anyone know a Joni song 'Two Houses'? [Moni Kellermann ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #363 [Stdoherty ] Re: Joni and Buffy [Michael Paz ] Re: Anyone know a Joni song 'Two Houses'? [Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Shelagh McDonald and Linda Perhacs Linda also has that knack for imagery and mood as well. I happened upon Sibylle Baier just after looking up Linda on youtube .. really nice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-r1b2H9FKs&feature=related On Oct 31, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > Cindy Vickery gave me a copy of that Linda Perhacs record way back when, I really dig it and see a lot of similarities in terms of the complexities of the music. > > Bob > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 13:49:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1622 I've heard a few Taylor Swift songs because a friend of my daughter's is a fan and made my daughter go with her to her last concert here in Toronto. Although I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, and I haven't given the songs on "Red" a listen, so I suppose I should before mouthing off, but I really don't think Ms Swift can hold a candle to Joni and that she has a LONG way to go before ever (if ever) coming close to the maturity, poetry and musicality of Ms Mitchell. Even looking at the fact that Joni's earlier stuff may have been folk/pop, Taylor Swift's music is much more poppy and much more commercial than Joni's ever was. She has the young'uns screaming and tearing out their hair a la Justin Bieber, so she does seem to represent some kind of teenage girl angst very well. In my opinionated opinion and having heard her sing live a few times on TV, the girl really isn't all that great a singer live, and Joni could always sing. Taylor Swift is only 22, so she has some years to go yet before reaching anything like maturity and we live in different times, where 30 is the new 20, and the music industry really is that starmaker machinery Joni has been railing about lo these many years, and I wonder if Joni's like will ever come around again and, if it does, will anyone embrace it? So, I hold my kneejerk bitchiness in check (slightly) and will perhaps cringingly listen to the songs on "Red" and try to do so without prejudice. Judging by the name and cover art, it does appear that Ms Swift is trying to imitate the best, which is either a salute to one of her heroines, or a cynical bid to suggest she's in that league. >________________________________ > From: TERRY COOK >To: joni@smoe.org >Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 3:51:00 PM >Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1622 > >just wondering if anyone else out there caught the joni references in rolling stone's review of taylor swift's new album "red." first off, most blatantly, the reviewer stated that this, her fourth, album is her "joni mitchell-influenced maturity binge." later the review states that swift often succeeds in "joining the joni/carole king tradition of stark-relief emotional mapping." finally, the last sentence of the review concludes that "when she's really on, her songs are like tattoos." >i don't know taylor swift. in my ignorance(and i admit my ignorance),i have a hard time believing that ms. swift is anywhere close to being in the same category with joni mitchell. > >tc ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:31:36 +0000 From: Anita G Subject: Re: Anyone know a Joni song 'Two Houses'? Another bonus, Moni, is realising that the song we all sang together at the end of that concert was by Dino Valenti 'Get Together', which is listed on the link you sent. I hadn't heard that name nor that song since that night in January 1970 - but what joy we all had singing it! And how great to remember it tonight. Happy Days - I ran 100 metres in 12.7 that year of 1970. I don't reckon my left hip would let me do that now :~) However, I remain a hippy.... Yours, in the spirit of bad puns, Anita ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 13:01:16 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Live Joni Tribute in Columbus, Ohio - this Thursday http://www.jazzcolumbus.com/the-music-of-joni-mitchell-featuring-kay-harris-and-flippo/ This actually looks pretty cool. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:55:16 -0700 From: "Eaton, Shari" Subject: Re: Shelagh McDonald sampler Really enjoying these exchanges. I've always thought Joni continued where Linda Perhacs left off. Linda went missing for years. Kind of a bizarre story. Chimacum Rain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb59WCJTs_Q Parallelograms http://slog.thestranger.com/files/2007/11/parallelograms.mp3 I have an album of hers at home. I'll upload when I get there. Lots of Joni, Shari On Oct 31, 2012, at 6:40 AM, Catherine McKay wrote: > I've uploaded four songs to yousendit. I think some of these sound Joni-like. These songs are from albums released in 1970-71, so later than Joni's early albums. Just thought I'd share this for anyone who's interested. It's not just the guitar-playing but some of the lyrics themselves that sound Joni-like to me, but I think that those kinds of lyrics were also part of the whole hippy/hippie ethos. Innocent but wise, back to the garden, all that sterf. > > > https://www.yousendit.com/download/WUJiV285R0ZGR0Z1a3NUQw ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 20:28:28 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: George Lucas sells "Star Wars" franchise and Lucasfilm Ltd. "LOS ANGELES (AP) -- A decade since George Lucas said "Star Wars" was finished on the big screen, a new trilogy under new ownership is destined for theaters after The Walt Disney Co. announced Tuesday that it was buying Lucasfilm Ltd. from him for $4.05 billion." Episode 7 is due in 2015. Details: TinyURL.com/9ghctwq Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:51:00 -0400 (EDT) From: TERRY COOK Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1622 just wondering if anyone else out there caught the joni references in rolling stone's review of taylor swift's new album "red." first off, most blatantly, the reviewer stated that this, her fourth, album is her "joni mitchell-influenced maturity binge." later the review states that swift often succeeds in "joining the joni/carole king tradition of stark-relief emotional mapping." finally, the last sentence of the review concludes that "when she's really on, her songs are like tattoos." i don't know taylor swift. in my ignorance(and i admit my ignorance),i have a hard time believing that ms. swift is anywhere close to being in the same category with joni mitchell. tc - ----- Original Message ----- From: "JMDL Digest" To: joni-digest@smoe.org Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:53:06 PM Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1622 JMDL Digest Sunday, October 28 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1622 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Anyone know a Joni song 'Two Houses'? [Anita G Subject: Anyone know a Joni song 'Two Houses'? I am just spending a narcissistic Sunday reading through some bits I sent to joni.com and I was re-reading the earliest piece which was 'Concerts Attended' which was my sweet little review of my first Joni gig in January 1970. I was surprised by this: "The second half opened with "Marcie"; the real Marcie was in the audience followed by "Nathan La Franeer". She then sang two more songs on the piano; one called "Two Houses" and the new Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young single "Woodstock". Does anybody recall or know anything about 'Two Houses'? I wondered if I'd got a bit confused with something, there were a lot of new songs at that time. Maybe I got the name of the song wrong or was it a song that Joni discarded or renamed. Any ideas anyone? The full article (including my ticket stub) if anyone wants to get in touch with my inner adolescent is at: http://jonimitchell.com/chronology/detail.cfm?id=1288 But I'd welcome anyone who recalls or knows or had ideas about 'Two Houses' from them ol' days Anita - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1622 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:37:33 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Anyone know a Joni song 'Two Houses'? Am 28.10.2012 20:31, Wie Anita G so vortrefflich formulierte: > Another bonus, Moni, is realising that the song we all sang together > at the end of that concert was by Dino Valenti 'Get Together', which > is listed on the link you sent. I hadn't heard that name nor that song > since that night in January 1970 - but what joy we all had singing it! > And how great to remember it tonight. There is a nice version of "Get together" from Big Sur 1969, with CSN: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62mAYkHrM2Y Enjoy! moni k. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 16:00:32 -0600 From: Les Irvin Subject: Fwd: Charlie Angel? The 3rd most talked about thread in the history of the JMDL returns! Anyone care to help out non-JMDLer Jack? - -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 05:36:52 -0700 From: Jack Bogdanski To: les@jonimitchell.com What is Ben Orr chanting in the background from start to finish? I have listened to the track hundreds of times, filtering it every way I can think of, and I still cannot make it out. And why "Charlie Angel"? The original '50s song was about "Johnny Angel." Is it because in Vietnam the Viet Cong were known to the U.S. troops as Charlie? Surely it has nothing to do with the TV show "Charlie's Angels"... A truly haunting song. Thank you for whatever guidance you can provide. Best regards, Jack Bogdanski Portland, Oregon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:07:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Stdoherty Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #363 I have a new office, a few floors up from an unobstructed view ... a fantastic view ... If obsessed - Two Gray Rooms makes sense to me. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:54:12 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Joni and Buffy I had this album back in the day but it is long gone and I have not heard these songs forever. Thanks for sharing oh Jedi Master Paz On Oct 31, 2012, at 7:50 AM, Robert Sartorius wrote: Les wrote" "Recently, I bought Buffy Saint-Marie's first album, released in 1964. As Joni's hero, this would have been what Joni was listening to at the time she began writing. For me, it was a revelation hearing this album and for the first time ever, I thought "Aha!" I can hear now what may have influenced Joni's early, mostly unreleased songwriting. More so the guitar playing (Buffy used open tunings) than lyrically, but to me, a distinct influence for Joni - perhaps the only obvious influence." I'd be interested in other's takes on this. Here's a 3-song sampler from Buffy's first album: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8377478/Buffy1964.zip Thoughts anyone? Am I way off base?" Thanks for the sampler, Les. I enjoyed it. I think you may be on to something - certainly not off base IMO. Of the three songs in the sampler, the first (Old Mand's Lament, which I assume is an old Irish ballad) reminds me very much of an early Joni song (or perhaps parts of a couple), the name of which escapes me. (The guitar intro reminded me of Eastern Rain, which is to say, vice versa). The second song did not strike a chord with me, but the lyric from the the third cut (It's My Way) was defiantly independent and, in that sense, might well have struck a chord with Joni (Just Like Me? Born To Take the Highway?). Bobsart ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 20:31:15 +0100 From: Moni Kellermann Subject: Re: Anyone know a Joni song 'Two Houses'? http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/asxcards/JoniMitchell1969-07-07DownByTheMississippi_altsource.html Two Houses = Rainy Night House/Blue Boy moni k. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #369 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe