From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #367 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, October 31 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 367 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni and Buffy [Catherine McKay ] Re: Les Irving Drops a Bomb on the JMDL! [Michael Paz ] Shelagh McDonald sampler [Catherine McKay ] Re: Shelagh McDonald and Linda Perhacs [Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni and Buffy Listening to it now, Les. You're not off base at all. The guitar playing in particular is very Joni-like, so maybe Joni's playing is actually Buffy-like. "The old man's Lament" sounds Irish or Scottish, along the lines of "The great silkie of Suleskerry" (or Shool Skerry, or Skule Skerry, because I've seen it spelled any number of ways. "You're gonna need somebody on your bond." Now there's an oldie but goodie. I borrowed a library book years ago that had this song in it (as one chosen by Buffy). I had never heard it sung, so the way I did it was quite different. This songs sounds more delta blues. It has that funky slide, kind of like what Joni does in "This flight tonight." Another singer from back-then whose guitar work (assuming she's the guitar player) is a Scottish singer, Shelagh McDonald, whose music also reminds me a bit of Nick Drake, Sandy Denny and sometimes Judy Collins. I'll upload some stuff to either Dropbox or YouSendIt if there's interest - right now, Dropbox is giving me a hard time. >________________________________ > From: Les Irvin >To: Joni List >Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 12:43:29 AM >Subject: Joni and Buffy > >Joniphiles - > >As we know through interviews over the years, Joni took the train across Canada to see her "hero" Buffy Saint-Marie at the Mariposa festival in 1964. During that trip she wrote her first song. When Joni did begin writing songs, it seems to me that she came out of nowhere with no obvious influences. By that I mean - I don't hear Dylan or Woody Guthrie or other obvious "folk" influences in her early writing, even though she largely came through the "folk scare" scene of the early and mid 60s with all the others. > >Recently, I bought Buffy Saint-Marie's first album, released in 1964. As Joni's hero, this would have been what Joni was listening to at the time she began writing. For me, it was a revelation hearing this album and for the first time ever, I thought "Aha!" I can hear now what may have influenced Joni's early, mostly unreleased songwriting. More so the guitar playing (Buffy used open tunings) than lyrically, but to me, a distinct influence for Joni - perhaps the only obvious influence. > >I'd be interested in other's takes on this. Here's a 3-song sampler from Buffy's first album: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8377478/Buffy1964.zip > >Thoughts anyone? Am I way off base? > >Thanks, >Les ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 08:52:18 -0500 From: Michael Paz Subject: Re: Les Irving Drops a Bomb on the JMDL! LMAO!!!! Good one! Michael Paz michael@thepazgroup.com Cypress Recording Services Paz Music Production 17 Waverly Place Destrehan, La. 70047 504-382-0343 Home Office-985-764-0395 On Oct 31, 2012, at 6:50 AM, Jack Merkel wrote: "Denver Colorado (AP) - After years of running one of the most beloved and respected fan forums on the web, Les Irving, a favorite son of Colorado, has stunned the community by selling the rights to the JMDL. Details of the transaction are still up in the air, but rumor has it that he agreed to sell the rights for a life time supply of mandolin strings. The new owners, the Jedi Masters Discussion List, wasted no time in putting out their first post. On Oct 30, 2012, at 7:28 > "LOS ANGELES (AP) -- A decade since George Lucas said "Star Wars" was finished on the big screen, a new trilogy under new ownership is destined for theaters after The Walt Disney Co. announced Tuesday that it was buying Lucasfilm Ltd. from him for $4.05 billion." > > Episode 7 is due in 2015. > > Details: > TinyURL.com/9ghctwq > > Jim L'Hommedieu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 10:41:28 -0700 From: Betsy Subject: Happy 50th! Anyone celebrating Joni's 50th anniversary of being paid to perform music? Betsy NP Carey (BBC) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 06:40:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Shelagh McDonald sampler I've uploaded four songs to yousendit. I think some of these sound Joni-like. These songs are from albums released in 1970-71, so later than Joni's early albums. Just thought I'd share this for anyone who's interested. It's not just the guitar-playing but some of the lyrics themselves that sound Joni-like to me, but I think that those kinds of lyrics were also part of the whole hippy/hippie ethos. Innocent but wise, back to the garden, all that sterf. https://www.yousendit.com/download/WUJiV285R0ZGR0Z1a3NUQw ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:03:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Shelagh McDonald and Linda Perhacs Nice music! She has (had?) a lovely voice and it sounds like she also did her own harmony tracks a la Joan. "Parallelograms" sounds very experimental, especially the 2nd half. I had never heard of her before, so thanks for sharing. Shelagh McDonald also did the disappearing act, only to show up years later, when she found out people were looking for her. >________________________________ > From: "Eaton, Shari" >To: Joni List >Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 1:55:16 PM >Subject: Re: Shelagh McDonald sampler > >Really enjoying these exchanges. I've always thought Joni continued where Linda Perhacs left off. Linda went missing for years. Kind of a bizarre story. > >Chimacum Rain >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qb59WCJTs_Q > >Parallelograms >http://slog.thestranger.com/files/2007/11/parallelograms.mp3 > > >I have an album of hers at home. I'll upload when I get there. > >Lots of Joni, >Shari > > > >On Oct 31, 2012, at 6:40 AM, Catherine McKay wrote: > >> I've uploaded four songs to yousendit. I think some of these sound Joni-like. These songs are from albums released in 1970-71, so later than Joni's early albums. Just thought I'd share this for anyone who's interested. It's not just the guitar-playing but some of the lyrics themselves that sound Joni-like to me, but I think that those kinds of lyrics were also part of the whole hippy/hippie ethos. Innocent but wise, back to the garden, all that sterf. >> >> >> https://www.yousendit.com/download/WUJiV285R0ZGR0Z1a3NUQw ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #367 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe