From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #333 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, October 4 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 333 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: herjira music video ["gene" ] Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 - my Ruby Lake story [Phyliss Ward ] Definitive Joni songs and what would you share [Catherine McKay ] Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1499 Joni songs that we hate, or don't quite like [Bob.Muller@Fluor.c] Re: Magical Night With Joni & Bella Lugosi [Phyliss S Ward ] RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #1499 Joni songs that we hate, or don't quite like [Susan Tierney McNamara ] Re: Joni clunkers [Michael Flaherty ] Re: JMDL etiquette, just a note [Shari Eaton ] Dylan ["Eaton, Shari" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 16:52:32 -0700 From: "gene" Subject: Re: herjira music video If this were Facebook I would be clicking the "Like" button. Sure miss Jaco. thanks, gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eaton, Shari" To: "JMDL list" Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 3:56 PM Subject: herjira music video >i hadn't seen this so thought i'd send it along: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg7F2-rYXno&feature=BFa&list=AL94UKMTqg-9C0AEsw9AaFkKcM0VAuebDx > > > > i love watching her flap her wings : ) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 20:03:34 -0400 From: Phyliss Ward Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 - my Ruby Lake story Phyliss On Oct 4, 2012, at 7:59 PM, Phyliss Ward wrote: > Hi Deanna! I saw your photo and remember seeing you at Ruby Lake. Welcome to the JMDL! > Your story of meeting Joni is similar to my first meeting with her in 1998. I was also so emotional I could not speak coherently. I received one of those hugs as well. Because of that first meeting I was able to attend one of the taping nights for PWWAM. Ruby made it full circle. > > Phyliss >> >> Hello Folks >> I am new to this list but not new to Joni and her magical musical journey. >> >> I also met her just outside when she first arrived. I had thought long and hard of what I would say and just hoped to keep it together and not embarrass myself. I was resistant to approach her as she had just arrived and didn't want to crowd her right off the bat. \A friend took my full plate of food and pushed me toward her. I have met many "stars" in my life though I must say I was "star struck" I got through one sentence when my emotions surfaced and tears rolled down my cheek. She opened her arms wide and said "hug me" After one of the most grounding and memorable hugs of my life. I felt much better. My husband snapped photos with tears and all. Not the most glamorous photos but a moment I will never forget. >> >> >> Y >> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 20:42:33 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 - my Ruby Lake story Welcome Deanna! Thanks so much for joining and adding your Ruby Lake story! I will visit your website. :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Deanna Knight Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 1:59 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 - my Ruby Lake story Hello Folks I am new to this list but not new to Joni and her magical musical journey. As a artist myself, she is by far my biggest inspiration and cherished songwriter. I was sad to see the first few posts on here and thought this might all be critics and gossip about Joni...her aging, songs that folks don't like or how she doesn't "have it" anymore. I'm thrilled to hear stories of Ruby Lake as I was also there and hope to read more and more of the good stuff. She is human and we all age... in body, mind and spirit, some more gracefully than others. Her jaw dropping body of work is stunning and she is not a human jukebox of hits. Nuff said :) I met Giorgio and the Ruby Lake folks back several years ago. When I heard of the dinner and film viewing (while eavesdropping in the grocery line) I dashed home to check it out. Seems I was 6 hours late as Giorgio had just posted on Facebook that it was sold out. I emailed, called and messaged to see if I could get on a waiting list right away. We waited patiently and on the Thursday night prior to the event, I left a sliver of light when I agreed to babysit a friend's daughter. I told her that it was slim but I MAY be going to Ruby Lake for a special event with Joni Mitchell. Seconds after hanging up the phone I got a call from the Resort saying I WAS IN!!! My husband and I were so thrilled...I was over the moon. We also prepared a card for her just in case we didn't get a chance to speak face to face. A beautiful goddess with a spiral dress that spun into thousands of butterflies. I hope she liked it. I package that up with a couple of my CD's as a thank you. Not sure she will give it a listen but I like the idea that she will. My solo CD is a healing journey more than anything and she was very much a part of that spiritual journey. I also met her just outside when she first arrived. I had thought long and hard of what I would say and just hoped to keep it together and not embarrass myself. I was resistant to approach her as she had just arrived and didn't want to crowd her right off the bat. \A friend took my full plate of food and pushed me toward her. I have met many "stars" in my life though I must say I was "star struck" I got through one sentence when my emotions surfaced and tears rolled down my cheek. She opened her arms wide and said "hug me" After one of the most grounding and memorable hugs of my life. I felt much better. My husband snapped photos with tears and all. Not the most glamorous photos but a moment I will never forget. We had a couple more nice conversations and I must say she is still very powerful, smart as a whip, full of life, charm and wisdom. She seemed in good spirits and good health. Even with the ENDLESS photo flashes she seemed to enjoy her interaction with fans. She is building another home on her land and settling in even deeper to the Sunshine Coast... where she spends half the year. She still pays her taxes in the US but says her heart is in Canada :) You can see some pics on FB is you want to track my fan page down. Hope this was not too long of a post but wanted to share my story. I had a very strong feeling I would someday meet Joni but could never have imagined such a magical Fall Equinox. With the gorgeous setting, huge bonfire and air infused with white sage and lavender, it was literally beyond my wildest dreams. Endless blessings to dear Joni Mitchell. D www.deannaknight.ca - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: October-04-12 9:28 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 JMDL Digest Thursday, October 4 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1517 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1516 ["Gary Hanick" ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 09:26:56 -0700 From: "Gary Hanick" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1516 What a beautiful story and how fortunate you are!! Sent from my iPad On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:18 AM, "JMDL Digest" wrote: > > JMDL Digest Thursday, October 4 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1516 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Hejira to Madeira (Ruby Lake) - Anita's Tale (quite long) [Anita G > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 17:14:52 +0100 > From: Anita G > Subject: Hejira to Madeira (Ruby Lake) - Anita's Tale (quite long) > > Leading up to the Ruby Lake expedition, there was a JMDL thread about > what people might say or not say if they met Joni. I said I wasnt > going to plan but try to be there and trust what came. As I have > alluded to already, I am not sure that I did a very good job. > > After the 10 hour flight to Vancouver and on the way to the Ruby Lake, > I began to ask myself more and more why I was going and what for? The > owl had called us to go to the Lake. I was concerned as I knew some of > the beliefs about Death associated with their call, so I did wonder if > it was to say good-bye. Whatever had made us decide to go, I thought I > would buy some sunflowers for Joni and we stopped in Sechelt and > shopped. I wanted to give Joni something that she might enjoy, at > least for a couple of days and flowers seemed a good idea. On seeing > Joni the next day, I was delighted to see that she far from dead was, > in fact, very much alive and not far off kicking. > > When we first arrived at Ruby Lake and met the Cogrossi family and all > the staff, they could not have been kinder or more helpful. We noticed > a signed, framed print of Taming the Tiger hung on the wall of the > restaurant, along with a poster advertising one of the Joni and Bob > Dylan concerts. It was a very good place for us to land. Giorgio > loved the story of the owl calling us to go to Ruby Lake. He told us > that, on Jonis 60th birthday meal held at the Lake, she had released > an owl that Aldo had rehabilitated. Joni had stroked the owl for ten > minutes or so before releasing it and it flew up on to the Italian > flag pole where it sat for a long time before flying away. Steph, with > her usual dry wit, said I dont think it was the same one. > > Giorgio had mentioned that day on an email that he would be choosing > some folk to go and pay tribute to Joni at the end of the event , but > I had an idea that he knew whom he wanted to do that job, so I thought > it unlikely Id get a chance so I decided I would write something to > give to her. After all, wed gone all that way, so I might as well try > and find a few words. I wrote Joni a card and taped it to the > sunflowers. The card said: > > Dear Joni > In case I am not one of the fortunate ones to be called up to pay you > a tribute, this is what I wanted to say: > > Eleven nights ago an owl screeched at my window more or less telling > me to cross the Atlantic and come to Ruby Lake. Now I know why. > > In 1968, when I was 14 years old, my brother Michael came home from a > concert in London. He said he had seen this Lady Singer he thought I > would like and he promised to buy me her first album, which he did. > > 44 years later, I can tell you that for me and countless others, > Joni's music has been the soundtrack to our lives, supporting and > challenging us in equal measure. > > The owl has brought me here to give me the chance to say thank you > Joni for finding words for me when I had none. Bless you, and may your > road be always charmed. > > With love > Anita x > > The next day, the day of the gig, the weather was really grim. Grey, > heavy drizzle and cloud made visibility really poor, but Steph and I > ventured up the amphitheatre where the event was to be held and, even > in the greyness, it was magical. We breathed it all in and decided it > would be good to see if we do anything to help out, but, although > there must have been tons to do, Giorgio and Aldo didnt assign us any > tasks, so we spent a really fun afternoon with Phyllis and Bob making > lanterns out of paper bags to light at the amphitheatre. It was one of > those things where you find yourself with people who are good at art > and your own efforts look like those of an untalented three year old. > Honestly, Phyllis and Bob were turning them Mothers out as though > Banksy or Picasso were related to them. There were lanterns that said > JMDL and I have seen a beautiful close up photo somewhere of Bobs (or > was it Phylisss?) Hejira to Madeira. A majestic lantern! We were > joined by Pearl, Cassy and Laura and we sang, drank tea and made more > lanterns. The laughter and fun of that afternoon is one of the great > memories I will cherish. > > Five oclock came closer and the sun came out! It was an astonishing > turn around. The JMDLers had been given a table outside overlooking > the lake near to where Joni would be having her meal. We had a drink > and near six, Joni arrived. When I first saw her, she reminded me of > images painted by my friend Carolyn Hillyer. Carolyn painted a series > of circle of thirteen archetypal grandmothers and Joni could have been > one of them. Although these images of grandmothers arent available on > line, if you scroll down through her and her husband, Nigels, work, > to the Northern Sisterhood of Drums you might get the sense of her > paintings and the drift: > > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?saved&&suggest¬e_id=134070774102 > > People started moving up to go for the wonderful barbecue of organic, > wild sockeye salmon and prawns with salad. The JMDL group were invited > to join the queue for food. Steph said to me I must go and get my > camera to photograph this beautiful fare. She was gone for some time > and then rushed over and excitedly said You must come now, you must > come now. Im with Joni > > It transpired that Giorgio, who seemed to really like Steph, had > grabbed her by the hand and introduced her to Joni. It was then that > Steph said ' Joni, I am so pleased to meet you, but my friend likes > you more than I do' When Joni laughed , Steph said 'I didn't mean it > quite like that, but can I go and get her?' and Joni said yes, of > course. So Steph grabbed me and we went back. It was Steph who took me > to Paris when I first met Joni and it had been Steph that took me to > Edmonton when I met Joni again and here she was this time introducing > me TO Joni! Joni commented on how far wed come just to be there and I > was about to embark on chat when Steph said ' Come on, Anita, you have > always wanted to tell Joni what she means to you. Nows your chance. > I remember starting to say pretty much what I had written on the card >  about my brother coming home from London, that I was fourteen, hed > bought me her first album but then everything is blank. I don't > remember anything else. Not a single word. Not even a glimmer .. > There is absolutely nothing in my memory whatsoever until Joni took my > hand and said 'Isnt this a beautiful place?' And I kept saying 'Yes > it is......it is very beautiful I felt a wee bit mesmerised. Joni > looked around, took a breath and quietly and slowly said again This > is such a beautiful place. > > Steph, Joni and I talked a little about how we planned to do some > walking and bird watching and then my time with Joni was finished. I > dont quite know what happened. I dont remember much of it, but Steph > tells me that I said more or less what I said on my card and that I > did take my chance to thank her. However, the experience of meeting > Joni has left my bones telling me that the present really is all we > have. Everything happens in the here and now. I am no longer 14. 1968 > has gone. I wanted to be fully present with Joni and I wasnt. Joni > simply was presence. > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1516 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 20:37:44 -0700 (PDT) From: LC Stanley Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 - my Ruby Lake story Thanks Deanna for your beautiful sharing and reminding me about the bonfire and all. I was there too. It was other worldly. Did it really happen?! What a beautiful place on earth this area is. No wonder Joni picked it! Love, Laura ________________________________ From: Susan Tierney McNamara To: Deanna Knight ; "joni@smoe.org" Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 3:42 PM Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 - my Ruby Lake story Welcome Deanna! Thanks so much for joining and adding your Ruby Lake story! I will visit your website. :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Deanna Knight Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 1:59 PM To: joni@smoe.org Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 - my Ruby Lake story Hello Folks I am new to this list but not new to Joni and her magical musical journey. As a artist myself, she is by far my biggest inspiration and cherished songwriter. I was sad to see the first few posts on here and thought this might all be critics and gossip about Joni...her aging, songs that folks don't like or how she doesn't "have it" anymore. I'm thrilled to hear stories of Ruby Lake as I was also there and hope to read more and more of the good stuff. She is human and we all age... in body, mind and spirit, some more gracefully than others. Her jaw dropping body of work is stunning and she is not a human jukebox of hits. Nuff said :) I met Giorgio and the Ruby Lake folks back several years ago. When I heard of the dinner and film viewing (while eavesdropping in the grocery line) I dashed home to check it out. Seems I was 6 hours late as Giorgio had just posted on Facebook that it was sold out. I emailed, called and messaged to see if I could get on a waiting list right away. We waited patiently and on the Thursday night prior to the event, I left a sliver of light when I agreed to babysit a friend's daughter. I told her that it was slim but I MAY be going to Ruby Lake for a special event with Joni Mitchell. Seconds after hanging up the phone I got a call from the Resort saying I WAS IN!!! My husband and I were so thrilled...I was over the moon. We also prepared a card for her just in case we didn't get a chance to speak face to face. A beautiful goddess with a spiral dress that spun into thousands of butterflies. I hope she liked it. I package that up with a couple of my CD's as a thank you. Not sure she will give it a listen but I like the idea that she will. My solo CD is a healing journey more than anything and she was very much a part of that spiritual journey. I also met her just outside when she first arrived. I had thought long and hard of what I would say and just hoped to keep it together and not embarrass myself. I was resistant to approach her as she had just arrived and didn't want to crowd her right off the bat. \A friend took my full plate of food and pushed me toward her. I have met many "stars" in my life though I must say I was "star struck" I got through one sentence when my emotions surfaced and tears rolled down my cheek. She opened her arms wide and said "hug me" After one of the most grounding and memorable hugs of my life. I felt much better. My husband snapped photos with tears and all. Not the most glamorous photos but a moment I will never forget. We had a couple more nice conversations and I must say she is still very powerful, smart as a whip, full of life, charm and wisdom. She seemed in good spirits and good health. Even with the ENDLESS photo flashes she seemed to enjoy her interaction with fans. She is building another home on her land and settling in even deeper to the Sunshine Coast... where she spends half the year. She still pays her taxes in the US but says her heart is in Canada :) You can see some pics on FB is you want to track my fan page down. Hope this was not too long of a post but wanted to share my story. I had a very strong feeling I would someday meet Joni but could never have imagined such a magical Fall Equinox. With the gorgeous setting, huge bonfire and air infused with white sage and lavender, it was literally beyond my wildest dreams. Endless blessings to dear Joni Mitchell. D www.deannaknight.ca - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni-digest@smoe.org] Sent: October-04-12 9:28 AM To: joni-digest@smoe.org Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 JMDL Digest Thursday, October 4 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1517 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1516 ["Gary Hanick" ] - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 09:26:56 -0700 From: "Gary Hanick" Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1516 What a beautiful story and how fortunate you are!! Sent from my iPad On Oct 4, 2012, at 9:18 AM, "JMDL Digest" wrote: > > JMDL Digest Thursday, October 4 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1516 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Hejira to Madeira (Ruby Lake) - Anita's Tale (quite long) [Anita G > > - ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 17:14:52 +0100 > From: Anita G > Subject: Hejira to Madeira (Ruby Lake) - Anita's Tale (quite long) > > Leading up to the Ruby Lake expedition, there was a JMDL thread about > what people might say or not say if they met Joni. I said I wasnt > going to plan but try to be there and trust what came. As I have > alluded to already, I am not sure that I did a very good job. > > After the 10 hour flight to Vancouver and on the way to the Ruby Lake, > I began to ask myself more and more why I was going and what for? The > owl had called us to go to the Lake. I was concerned as I knew some of > the beliefs about Death associated with their call, so I did wonder if > it was to say good-bye. Whatever had made us decide to go, I thought I > would buy some sunflowers for Joni and we stopped in Sechelt and > shopped. I wanted to give Joni something that she might enjoy, at > least for a couple of days and flowers seemed a good idea. On seeing > Joni the next day, I was delighted to see that she far from dead was, > in fact, very much alive and not far off kicking. > > When we first arrived at Ruby Lake and met the Cogrossi family and all > the staff, they could not have been kinder or more helpful. We noticed > a signed, framed print of Taming the Tiger hung on the wall of the > restaurant, along with a poster advertising one of the Joni and Bob > Dylan concerts. It was a very good place for us to land. Giorgio > loved the story of the owl calling us to go to Ruby Lake. He told us > that, on Jonis 60th birthday meal held at the Lake, she had released > an owl that Aldo had rehabilitated. Joni had stroked the owl for ten > minutes or so before releasing it and it flew up on to the Italian > flag pole where it sat for a long time before flying away. Steph, with > her usual dry wit, said I dont think it was the same one. > > Giorgio had mentioned that day on an email that he would be choosing > some folk to go and pay tribute to Joni at the end of the event , but > I had an idea that he knew whom he wanted to do that job, so I thought > it unlikely Id get a chance so I decided I would write something to > give to her. After all, wed gone all that way, so I might as well try > and find a few words. I wrote Joni a card and taped it to the > sunflowers. The card said: > > Dear Joni > In case I am not one of the fortunate ones to be called up to pay you > a tribute, this is what I wanted to say: > > Eleven nights ago an owl screeched at my window more or less telling > me to cross the Atlantic and come to Ruby Lake. Now I know why. > > In 1968, when I was 14 years old, my brother Michael came home from a > concert in London. He said he had seen this Lady Singer he thought I > would like and he promised to buy me her first album, which he did. > > 44 years later, I can tell you that for me and countless others, > Joni's music has been the soundtrack to our lives, supporting and > challenging us in equal measure. > > The owl has brought me here to give me the chance to say thank you > Joni for finding words for me when I had none. Bless you, and may your > road be always charmed. > > With love > Anita x > > The next day, the day of the gig, the weather was really grim. Grey, > heavy drizzle and cloud made visibility really poor, but Steph and I > ventured up the amphitheatre where the event was to be held and, even > in the greyness, it was magical. We breathed it all in and decided it > would be good to see if we do anything to help out, but, although > there must have been tons to do, Giorgio and Aldo didnt assign us any > tasks, so we spent a really fun afternoon with Phyllis and Bob making > lanterns out of paper bags to light at the amphitheatre. It was one of > those things where you find yourself with people who are good at art > and your own efforts look like those of an untalented three year old. > Honestly, Phyllis and Bob were turning them Mothers out as though > Banksy or Picasso were related to them. There were lanterns that said > JMDL and I have seen a beautiful close up photo somewhere of Bobs (or > was it Phylisss?) Hejira to Madeira. A majestic lantern! We were > joined by Pearl, Cassy and Laura and we sang, drank tea and made more > lanterns. The laughter and fun of that afternoon is one of the great > memories I will cherish. > > Five oclock came closer and the sun came out! It was an astonishing > turn around. The JMDLers had been given a table outside overlooking > the lake near to where Joni would be having her meal. We had a drink > and near six, Joni arrived. When I first saw her, she reminded me of > images painted by my friend Carolyn Hillyer. Carolyn painted a series > of circle of thirteen archetypal grandmothers and Joni could have been > one of them. Although these images of grandmothers arent available on > line, if you scroll down through her and her husband, Nigels, work, > to the Northern Sisterhood of Drums you might get the sense of her > paintings and the drift: > > http://www.facebook.com/note.php?saved&&suggest,e_id=134070774102 > > People started moving up to go for the wonderful barbecue of organic, > wild sockeye salmon and prawns with salad. The JMDL group were invited > to join the queue for food. Steph said to me I must go and get my > camera to photograph this beautiful fare. She was gone for some time > and then rushed over and excitedly said You must come now, you must > come now. Im with Joni > > It transpired that Giorgio, who seemed to really like Steph, had > grabbed her by the hand and introduced her to Joni. It was then that > Steph said ' Joni, I am so pleased to meet you, but my friend likes > you more than I do' When Joni laughed , Steph said 'I didn't mean it > quite like that, but can I go and get her?' and Joni said yes, of > course. So Steph grabbed me and we went back. It was Steph who took me > to Paris when I first met Joni and it had been Steph that took me to > Edmonton when I met Joni again and here she was this time introducing > me TO Joni! Joni commented on how far wed come just to be there and I > was about to embark on chat when Steph said ' Come on, Anita, you have > always wanted to tell Joni what she means to you. Nows your chance. > I remember starting to say pretty much what I had written on the card > about my brother coming home from London, that I was fourteen, hed > bought me her first album but then everything is blank. I don't > remember anything else. Not a single word. Not even a glimmer .. > There is absolutely nothing in my memory whatsoever until Joni took my > hand and said 'Isnt this a beautiful place?' And I kept saying 'Yes > it is......it is very beautiful I felt a wee bit mesmerised. Joni > looked around, took a breath and quietly and slowly said again This > is such a beautiful place. > > Steph, Joni and I talked a little about how we planned to do some > walking and bird watching and then my time with Joni was finished. I > dont quite know what happened. I dont remember much of it, but Steph > tells me that I said more or less what I said on my card and that I > did take my chance to thank her. However, the experience of meeting > Joni has left my bones telling me that the present really is all we > have. Everything happens in the here and now. I am no longer 14. 1968 > has gone. I wanted to be fully present with Joni and I wasnt. Joni > simply was presence. > > - ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1516 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- - ------------------------------ End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1517 ****************************** - ------- To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe - ------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:38:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Joni clunkers >I'm a proponent of the theory that Joni hasn't made a GREAT album since Mingus, hasn't written a truly GREAT song since Chinese CafC), and has only written a handful of very good songs since then (Man From Mars, Ethiopia, Come In From The Cold, a few others). >I can't listen to Shine, the album. I think it's *dreadful*! And Travelogue is, well, *shudder*. I agree with some of this. I do think Mingus (plus S+L) is her last great album. I don't think CC is the last great song she's written, but I do love it more than anything she's written since. And I can't bear BSN or Travelogue. However, I do think a lot of her other post-Mingus albums are a good listen, particularly WTRF, NRH, and TI. Not great, but I obviously get more from them than you do. I will say that while I don't "hate" them, TtT and Shine do very little for me. I can listen to them, and that's about it. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 11:05:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Definitive Joni songs and what would you share Combining two requests from members into one. I doubt I could ever name one single "definitive" Joni song, much the same as I couldn't do a one-size-fits-all compilation album for anyone. She has had various phases she has gone through, so you'd need to find a single song (if you dare) that might define each period and not one single song that defines her. And, when it comes to compiling things, trying to give someone who had never heard her a taste of her work, then I'd need to do that based on the individual I might be trying to convert (or impress, as the case may be.) To be honest, I'm just too damn lazy to even begin with that. I've done it once or twice, but that was a while back and I don't remember what I included. I can never make my mind up about what I think is my favourite, or her best, so I'd have to go by process of elimination and would probably end up with at least 30 songs. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:09:46 -0400 (EDT) From: FMYFL@aol.com Subject: Re: SJC: now Joni's album performance In a message dated 10/3/2012 9:41:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com writes: > Looking at the Ruby Lake pictures, > she looks very frail and like she's aged 40 years since I saw her in 1998. > > Bob > I think part of it has to do with the way she's wearing her hair. Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 14:17:18 +0100 From: Jamie Zubairi Home Subject: Re: It's coming on Christmas Did anyone else see 'kooky' Zooey Deschanel in 'New Girl' in the episode where she plays it on loop 45 times after the breakup with her boyfriend? Was very funny I want to hear Cee Lo's version though Bob! Zooby On 3 October 2012 13:54, wrote: > And that of course means lots and lots of the joyous family > singalong....Joni's "River". Nothing quite like sipping hot cocoa around > the yule log while the youngsters sing "he loved me so naughty made me > weak in the knees"....anyway, I mentioned earlier about Tracy Thorn's > upcoming version that drops this month - my eagle-eyed assistant Paul has > discovered that none other than Cee Lo Green, star of "The Voice" is > dropping a holiday album this month as well with his soulful take of > "River" on it. > > Should be interesting. Wonder who else will be skating along on the River > this season? > > Bob > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > - -- Jamie Zubairi Actor, Voiceover, Painter, Photographer. Acting Agent: Pelham Associates 01273 323 010 SpotLight Showreel UnBroken Line Wefund Currently performing at the Tate Modern Turbine Hall as part of the *Tino Sehgal Unilever Commission. *In December *'Unbroken Line*' a solo performance premieres at OvalHouse Upstairs. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 08:13:59 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1499 Joni songs that we hate, or don't quite like I quite like "Blue Motel Room". I think it's jazzy, bluesy and humourous as well. It doesn't come off as affected to me at all.> I loved it the first time I heard it. It sounded like a jazz standard then and is becoming one over time. A totally singable melody, witty and original lyrics, the whole package. And I'm glad Joni went with Chuck Domanico's stand-up bass over Jaco's, though I would be interested in what his creative mind might have done with it. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 10:57:20 -0400 From: Phyliss S Ward Subject: Re: Magical Night With Joni & Bella Lugosi Thank YOU Laura! I am so freaking busy right now i barely have time to breathe. I keep meaning to share more but can't find time. So here is a snippet: I told Joni I was one of the crazy internet fans (giggling) and that I had met her before in LA in 1998, and as a result of that I was able to attend PWWAM. She lit up at that and said you were there?! Did you see the Broadcast? I said yes and that I also owned the DVD. (I forgot to tell her I actually had a party at my house for the broadcast complete with Joni quiz for prizes). She said how wonderful it was going to be to watch it under the moon and pointed to it over the lake... On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:17 AM, est86mlm@ameritech.net wrote: > Thanks to everyone who posted their thoughts and details!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 15:51:18 -0700 From: Betsy Subject: 4/10 from Rolling Stone Rolling Stone included Joni in a gallery of 13 rock stars who have disappeared. Its always nice to see her called a rock star. She received four recluse points. Within a week of a public appearance, no less! Tinyurl.com/8sj6rnm Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 17:04:04 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #1499 Joni songs that we hate, or don't quite like This is a great piece, Dave! I don't remember reading it the first time you posted it. Thanks for sending it again. It's funny but I have always felt Blue Motel Room had a different feel than the other songs on Hejira, but I never felt it shouldn't be on the album. Coming from a painter's perspective, it's the contrast color in the corner of the composition that highlights the grey tones! :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Dave Blackburn Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:15 AM To: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Cc: Catherine McKay; JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST; Mary Morris Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1499 Joni songs that we hate, or don't quite like On Oct 2, 2012, at 5:13 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > I quite like "Blue Motel Room". I think it's jazzy, bluesy and > humourous as well. It doesn't come off as affected to me at all.> I wrote this piece about Blue Motel Room in a post in 2007. In case anyone would like to read it (or re-read it) here it is again: Much has been said (and no doubt remains to be said) about the philosophical depth of certain songs on Hejira (Hejira, Refuge of the Roads, Amelia) as well as about others which offer rich Shakespearean character portraits (Old Furry, Coyote, A Strange Boy, possibly even the absent Sharon by inference). Blue Motel Room appears, on the surface, to contain neither; It has an easy swing groove from another era (the romantic Bing Crosby era that Joni grew up in and loved--as she describes in the WOHAM DVD). Some feel that its torch ballad vibe is out of place stylistically on the album, and that the sentiments are relative fluff compared to the penetrating insights and poetic craft so evident on the Hejira album as a whole. I offer these thoughts: Blue Motel Room reveals a side of Joni seldom shown before or after: namely, sweetness. Vulnerability is all over Blue of course, and self reflection is everywhere in her career, but there's a particular sweetness in her plain language here: "will you still love me when I get back to L.A town" or "I hope you'll be thinking of me, because I'll be thinking of you, when I'm traveling home alone." Perhaps "See you Sometime" shows a similar side of Joni but I can't think of many other examples from her work of such unguarded softness. As such, I think the song offers an almost unique angle of this most complex woman. Here she is the opposite of the tough worldly rock star, the later political ranter or the sardonic commentator on humanity's baseness. Joni the girl is still visible here. Dare I say it, but it's sexy... Then thematically, on a road album, what could be more apt than home sickness in a drab motel room in the pouring rain in the opposite corner of the continent from where you live? Road adventures when alone usually contain more of that feeling than exciting liaisons or spiritual awakenings, even though she manages all three on this legendary trip (that we all wish we were a fly on the wall for). As Joni often does, she word associates heavily in this song: on the word "Blue", not for the first or last time. Blue bedspread, blue motel room, the blues inside and outside my head (no doubt suggesting the relaxed blues feel of the music to her). For a painter, what could come more naturally than seeing the connections between and connotations of colors. The poet is still crafting language threads even with her "high falutin'" switch turned off. I also love the cold war metaphor, anachronistic as it became. She probably saw some TV news in her blue motel room with some Soviet/US developments about peace talks and instantly wove that beautifully into the song. Blue Motel Room is a lovely piece of colored cloth that fits into Hejira's rag rug in a gentle and most sensuous way. I love it... Dave ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 15:41:02 -0400 From: Rose Subject: Re: SJC: now Joni's album performance More like genetics & the sun.... Sent from my iPhone On Oct 3, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > Are we all perhaps skirting around the nearly sixty years of smoking causing her rapid aging? > > On Oct 3, 2012, at 7:09 AM, fmyfl@aol.com wrote: > >> In a message dated 10/3/2012 9:41:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, >> Bob.Muller@Fluor.com writes: >> >>> Looking at the Ruby Lake pictures, >>> she looks very frail and like she's aged 40 years since I saw her in 1998. >>> >>> Bob >>> >> >> I think part of it has to do with the way she's wearing her hair. >> >> Jimmy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 09:43:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Flaherty Subject: Re: Joni clunkers >It would be very sad to me if Joni had stopped making music before I was born. Having been raised on Wild Things Run Fast and Dog Eat Dog, I probably just have a different perspective than most. That makes sense. I'm older (okay, a lot older) than you, but the Geffen albums did come out while I was young and had been seriously listening to Joni less than a decade, and I do think that changes perspectives. Still, I can't say those albums have lasted like the 70s albums have. Michael F. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 10:39:29 -0700 From: Shari Eaton Subject: Re: JMDL etiquette, just a note To avoid sending double emails I remove the specific addresses and leave only the Joni List address. Is that proper lister etiquette? If not - please enlighten the group. On Oct 3, 2012, at 10:11 AM, Les Irvin wrote: > Joniphiles - > Love all the activity as of late! Just a note, please remember NOT to copy the entire digest back to the list as a part of your reply. It helps with readability and eliminates unnecessary clutter. > Thanks! > Les ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 16:17:21 -0700 From: "Eaton, Shari" Subject: Dylan Hello, I wasn't part of this group when she made her comment about Dylan being a plagiarist. What was the consensus there? Feel free to forward any particularly thoughtful commentary on the matter or voice your own. Personally, I think she had been long fed up with being compared to him she probably wanted to draw the line and show how clearly separate they were. Unfortunately I think it made her appear really bitter and spiteful. I wonder how it's affected their relationship. Lots of Joni, Shari ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #333 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe