From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #328 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Wednesday, October 3 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 328 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Blue Motel Room thoughts [Michael Paz ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #326 [Stdoherty ] Blue Motel Room thoughts [Lindsay Moon ] quintessential Joni [Paul Ivice ] Undercover Presents "Blue" [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re:Joni songs that we hate, or don't quite like [Anita G Subject: Re: Blue Motel Room thoughts Yea leave the artists alone!!! tonight when I was looking for the band to get them on stage, I found one of them in an elevator making a video of himself, singing with a loop machine with a chair stuck in the door so the elevator door was making percussion sounds as it banged into the chair. I have to admit it was a very cool groove and the melody was beautiful. I would have given it a 93. I could dance to it and the special effects on the vox made it sound circa "Their Satantic Majesties Request" era which I have been listening to lately. If the video comes out on You Tube I will share it with you. Paz In Kirksville MO, headed to San Fran tomorrow for Hardly Strictly Bluegrass and soft opening of Preservation Hall West. Oct 3-8. Party!!! On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:05 PM, Lindsay Moon wrote: I've read a lot of what people have written, that the song doesn't fit, etc. May be true (I like it). I think sometimes Joni just gets ideas or hears sounds in different ways and plays and plays with them. The result may not be up to her usual caliber of Great Art, but I think sometimes she just plays ("Empty, Try Another"). Waaay back a long time ago I suggested on the List that if I were Thomas Dolby and/or Larry Klein and she wanted to put helicopter sounds over something, just let her. Someone blasted me and said "Don't put her on a pedestal!!" That shut me up for quite a while. But I'm just saying she's an artist so she likes to try out things, it pushes her on to new things that interest her and she plays some more. Just some thoughts. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 21:17:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Stdoherty Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #326 I always put Blue Motel Room into the same category as Talk To Me - if in the right mood they're fine. Lead Balloon goes along with it's sentiment - that works, and Joni needed a little rocking. Now can we talk about Dancin' Clown /.. that song where she works out her housekeeper issues .... - -----Original Message----- From: onlyJMDL Digest To: onlyjoni-digest Sent: Tue, Oct 2, 2012 3:06 am Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #326 onlyJMDL Digest Tuesday, October 2 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 326 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: - -------- Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1507 ["Gary Hanick" ] RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #1499 [Mary Morris ] Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1499 Joni songs that we hate, or don't quite like [Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1507 These are fantastic. What a fine group this was. Seeing the pictures of Joni made me well up. I wish I was there! Sent from my iPad On Oct 1, 2012, at 12:37 AM, "JMDL Digest" wrote: > > JMDL Digest Monday, October 1 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1507 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Ruby Lake Photos [Rose ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 11:12:04 -0400 > From: Rose > Subject: Re: Ruby Lake Photos > > Thank you Cassy, simply beautiful :.) > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 29, 2012, at 4:24 PM, "Cassy" wrote: > >> For those of you who are not on Facebook, here is a link to my photographs >> from our Ruby Lake hejira: >> >> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.4676301994710.185216.1508525181&typ >> e=3 >> >> Ibd love to be able to articulate the weekend but Ibm still processing it >> all. >> >> love, >> Cassy > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1507 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 14:10:51 -0700 From: Mary Morris Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #1499 I have to agree with Paul here. BYT is quite an encapsulation of it's time & a very catchy little song. There are few lead balloons in Joni's work, "Lead Balloon" might be one of my least favorite, or "Blue Motel Room"...she just sounds a litte affected there - not quite on point, as she always is, so when she "slips" a little, it's really noticeable. She's set such a standard for herself that once in awhile there's a clunker I can overlook. GREETINGS FROM THE TRIPLE M Down a gravel road, where the barb wire meets the sky. MARY M. MORRIS > Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:15:58 -0400 > From: owner-joni-digest@smoe.org > To: joni-digest@smoe.org > Subject: JMDL Digest V2012 #1499 > > > JMDL Digest Friday, September 28 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 1499 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Big Yellow Taxi [Paul Ivice ] > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 01:10:06 -0400 (EDT) > From: Paul Ivice > Subject: Big Yellow Taxi > > From: Betsy > >>> To: joni@smoe.org > >>> Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 4:57:28 PM > >>> Subject: BYT and other hippie songs > >>> > >>> Big Yellow Taxi ... tops my list of songs that I wish she could unwrite. > Maybe its the only song on my list....there are less popular songs I could do > without, but they aren't foisted upon me at the pizza parlor. > >>> > I find this comment to be especially strange coming from a Joni fan because > not only is "Don't It Always Seem to Go That You Don't Know What You've Got > Til It's Gone" the lyric of Joni's that unquestionably has become the most > deeply rooted in the social lexicon, but I would also suggest that more than > any other Joni song, the entirety of BYT represents Joni more philosophically, > politically and perhaps even emotionally, > Much like the way Steve Goodman's last verse of "You Never Even Call Me By My > Name," added at the request of David Allen Coe, gathers in a few lines all of > the elements that make it the "greatest country song of all time," within BYT > are all of the key elements -- a broken love affair, saving the environment, > getting back to the land and criticizing some human's overemphasis on profit > - -- that run through almost all of Joni's lyrics, but in no other song of hers > are they so complete and quintessential. > > Paul Ivice ;>) > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1499 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- - ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 15:30:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: JMDL Digest V2012 #1499 Joni songs that we hate, or don't quite like Interesting how we all differ. I quite like "Blue Motel Room". I think it's jazzy, bluesy and humourous as well. It doesn't come off as affected to me at all. I don't dislike "Big Yellow Taxi" and agree that it makes its point in a way that has stood the test of time, so I'm not disagreeing that it's a good song. As well, it has provided some oft-used expressions that even non-Joni fans use on a fairly regular basis: "They paved paradise and put up a parking lot" and "[Don't it always seem to go] You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone". (At this point, I'm not even sure whether Joni made that one up or if it existed before this song, but I always think of Joni when I hear anyone say it, or read it anywhere). On the other hand, great song or not, I am tired of hearing it because it has been covered so many times that I think it needs to take a rest for a while and I usually skip it. As for "Lead Balloon," that one's kind of meh to me. I neither like nor dislike it. It certainly wouldn't be in my top 10/20/40 Joni songs. >________________________________ > From: Mary Morris >To: JONIMITCHELL DISCUSSION LIST >Sent: Monday, October 1, 2012 5:10:51 PM >Subject: RE: JMDL Digest V2012 #1499 > >I have to agree with Paul here. BYT is quite an encapsulation of it's time & >a very catchy little song. There are few lead balloons in Joni's work, "Lead >Balloon" might be one of my least favorite, or "Blue Motel Room"...she just >sounds a litte affected there - not quite on point, as she always is, so when >she "slips" a little, it's really noticeable. She's set such a standard for >herself that once in awhile there's a clunker I can overlook. > > > > > > > > - ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #326 ********************************* - ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 20:05:00 -0700 From: Lindsay Moon Subject: Blue Motel Room thoughts I've read a lot of what people have written, that the song doesn't fit, etc. May be true (I like it). I think sometimes Joni just gets ideas or hears sounds in different ways and plays and plays with them. The result may not be up to her usual caliber of Great Art, but I think sometimes she just plays ("Empty, Try Another"). Waaay back a long time ago I suggested on the List that if I were Thomas Dolby and/or Larry Klein and she wanted to put helicopter sounds over something, just let her. Someone blasted me and said "Don't put her on a pedestal!!" That shut me up for quite a while. But I'm just saying she's an artist so she likes to try out things, it pushes her on to new things that interest her and she plays some more. Just some thoughts. Lindsay ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 21:30:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Paul Ivice Subject: quintessential Joni Anita wrote: I also saw Joni 'The Magdalene Laundries' it for the first time at the Edmonton Folk Festival in 1994, prior to the release of 'Turbulent Indigo' (when I got to meet her for the second time) so it has great memories of a time and place and of great joy in my life,too. That's what I would choose as my quintessentially Joni song today. But tomorrow it may be different! Anita, I agree that Magdalene Laundries captures one of Joni's key themes in that she is speaking for those who cannot speak for themselves, but it lacks most of the other themes or elements that consistently run through Joni's song lyrics, the subject of love being the main disqualifier as a quintessential Joni song. Paul Ivice ;>) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:39:34 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Undercover Presents "Blue" Now HERE'S a batch of covers that go way outside the lines. The Saturday-Sunday concerts last weekend in San Fran featured these acts and the recorded songs are on the web for streaming and/or purchase: http://undercoverpresents.bandcamp.com/album/blue-a-tribute-to-joni-mitchell Imagine "River" done as an Appalachian blues...This Flight Tonight as a hip-hop treat, a couple of these play it safe but most of them f*ck around with the basic song and I love it. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2012 15:22:19 +0100 From: Anita G Subject: Re:Joni songs that we hate, or don't quite like I loved hearing your version Bob in France JoniFest! Man, you were smokin' that night! Anita x On 02/10/2012, Bob.Muller@fluor.com wrote: > I quite like "Blue Motel Room". I think it's jazzy, bluesy and humourous > as well. It doesn't come off as affected to me at all.> > > I loved it the first time I heard it. It sounded like a jazz standard then > and is becoming one over time. A totally singable melody, witty and > original lyrics, the whole package. And I'm glad Joni went with Chuck > Domanico's stand-up bass over Jaco's, though I would be interested in what > his creative mind might have done with it. > > Bob ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #328 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe