From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #320 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, September 27 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 320 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: BYT and other hippie songs [Anita ] RE: Joni at The Fez 1995 [Susan Tierney McNamara ] New Library item: Can Taylor Swift do Joni Mitchell role justice? [TheSta] Re: Best last song [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Best last and latest songs [Betsy ] RE: Best last song [Susan Tierney McNamara ] The Fez Article: Birthday Suite, New Yorker 12/11/1995 [Susan Tierney McN] RE: Best last song [Susan Tierney McNamara ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 18:15:51 -0700 From: Anita Subject: Re: BYT and other hippie songs On 27 Sep 2012, at 14:40, Sally wrote: > Egad...I struggled with Mingus. But of the more "mainstream" (if any could truly be called such) Joni music, I truly don't care much for Jungle Line You should take a listen to Robin,Dave and the Mutts take on Jungle Line,Sally.It's wild! Anita x >> >> ------------------------------------------ >> ------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 14:36:32 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Joni at The Fez 1995 Listening to this now ... I think her performances with Brian Blade are just amazing ... this version of Moon At The Window is just freaking me out. They are both playing the beat so jazzy that sometimes it sounds like he is doing the melody and she is doing the percussion. This is really one of my favorite songs from her jazz era (even though it appeared on WTRF). So good. Thanks for sending the link Randy. My version of this show is probably on an old cassette tape under my bed. :-) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Randy Remote Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:09 AM To: Joni Subject: Joni at The Fez 1995 Don't know if this was previously in circulation: Joni Live in NY with Brian Blades, featured download on roio http://bigozine2.com/roio/?p=1216 This is the show in which Chrissie Hynde allegedly assaulted Carly Simon. Great sounding MP3's, these typically don't last long, get 'em while they're hot. RR ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:31:47 -0600 (MDT) From: TheStaff@JoniMitchell.com Subject: New Library item: Can Taylor Swift do Joni Mitchell role justice? Title: Can Taylor Swift do Joni Mitchell role justice? Publication: Toronto Sun Date: 2012.9.25 http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2523 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:13:12 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Best last song It's a good question - sequencing has always been an important part of her albums, and she always seems to close out with something strong. In my opinion, the contenders: Both Sides Now (last song on Clouds) is an amazing summary song - transitioning as it does from a small pictures (what does a cloud look like?) to the personal (what is love all about?) to the universal (why are we here?). The Last Time I saw Richard (Blue), a brilliant song on every level, almost counts as 2 songs with the lovely piano intro. Judgement Of The Moon And Stars (FTR) - Her first symphony, complex and personal, detailing an artist's struggles. Shadows And Light (HOSL) - Ends a dense complex album of portraits with a stark examination of the lightness and darkness in art and life. Refuge Of The Roads (Hejira) - Concludes the "road trip" album with an important chapter, and check out those squiggly Jaco bass notes at the very end - you have to crank the volume to hear them. Love (WTRF) - You could argue that she kinda didn't write this by herself as the lyrics are paraphrased from Paul's letter to the Church in Corinth, but after all the love songs it's a nice summary..."love's the greatest beauty...love...love". Two Grey Rooms (NRH) - One of her strongest songs of this era, gets my vote for strongest song on this album. If (Shine) - Doesn't hold a candle to most of the songs on this list, but gets my vote for the strongest song on the album - again, lyrically she's paraphrasing Kipling so may not even count. Interesting sidebar - the first officially released cover of this one (the first off this album) is due to come out in October from Ellen Robinson. Given all that - I have to cast a vote for BSN because at the end of the day it will stand as one of the GREAT songs of all time - will continue to be sung and recorded long after all of us are dead and gone. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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Betsy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 15:23:20 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Best last song Wow, I like this thread too Bob, but Magdalene Laundries is not the last song on TI, but in my opinion her last greatest song written. I guess my question was a bit obtuse. :) Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu From: Bob.Muller@fluor.com [mailto:Bob.Muller@fluor.com] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:13 AM To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Best last song It's a good question - sequencing has always been an important part of her albums, and she always seems to close out with something strong. In my opinion, the contenders: Both Sides Now (last song on Clouds) is an amazing summary song - transitioning as it does from a small pictures (what does a cloud look like?) to the personal (what is love all about?) to the universal (why are we here?). The Last Time I saw Richard (Blue), a brilliant song on every level, almost counts as 2 songs with the lovely piano intro. Judgement Of The Moon And Stars (FTR) - Her first symphony, complex and personal, detailing an artist's struggles. Shadows And Light (HOSL) - Ends a dense complex album of portraits with a stark examination of the lightness and darkness in art and life. Refuge Of The Roads (Hejira) - Concludes the "road trip" album with an important chapter, and check out those squiggly Jaco bass notes at the very end - you have to crank the volume to hear them. Love (WTRF) - You could argue that she kinda didn't write this by herself as the lyrics are paraphrased from Paul's letter to the Church in Corinth, but after all the love songs it's a nice summary..."love's the greatest beauty...love...love". Two Grey Rooms (NRH) - One of her strongest songs of this era, gets my vote for strongest song on this album. If (Shine) - Doesn't hold a candle to most of the songs on this list, but gets my vote for the strongest song on the album - again, lyrically she's paraphrasing Kipling so may not even count. Interesting sidebar - the first officially released cover of this one (the first off this album) is due to come out in October from Ellen Robinson. Given all that - I have to cast a vote for BSN because at the end of the day it will stand as one of the GREAT songs of all time - will continue to be sung and recorded long after all of us are dead and gone. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. 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I guess my main issue with this discussion is (and I probably should have framed it in this way) I think Jonibs later period, Night Ride Home through to Shine, has a lot of beautifully classic songs b& Two Grey Rooms, Borderline, even Love Puts On A New Face, which is another great performance from The Fez concert (which I just finished listening to). Shine is also a deeply emotional song for me. Hana, great song. Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu From: LC Stanley [mailto:sillyseabird7@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:21 PM To: Susan Tierney McNamara Cc: joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Best last song Sweetbird Out on some borderline Some mark of inbetween I lay down golden-in time And woke up vanishing Sweet bird you are Briefer than a falling star All these vain promises on beauty jars Somewhere with your wings on time You must be laughing Behind our eyes Calendars of our lives Circled with compromise Sweet bird of time and change You must be laughing Up on your feathers laughing Golden in time Cities under the sand Power, ideals and beauty Fading in everyone's hand Give me some time I feel like I'm losing mine Out here on this horizon line With the earth spinning And the sky forever rushing No one knows They can never get that close Guesses at most Guesses based on what each set of time and change is touching Guesses based on what each set of time and change is touching Guesses based on what each set of time and change is touching On Sep 27, 2012, at 9:45 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara > wrote: I was thinking about a thread of what you think is the best last song that Joni has written ... just weaving back through her albums ... Shine ... Taming The Tiger ... Turbulent Indigo ... which is the best one, and as I'm listening to the Fez performance of Magdalene Laundries, I really have to say that this song is a masterwork, and probably the last best song she has written ... Agree? Disagree? Debate? :) Sue Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #320 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe