From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #275 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, August 30 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 275 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- RE: Safaris to the Heart spreading itself about. [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: JoniMitchell.com fundraiser [Bob Muller ] Re: JoniMitchell.com fundraiser [Catherine McKay ] Re: Covers [Robin Adler ] Re: Safaris to the Heart spreading itself about. [Lieve Reckers ] Re: Safaris to the Heart spreading itself about. [Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] Re: Safaris to the Heart spreading itself about. [Merk54@aol.com] Re: Covers [David Gizara ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 11:11:08 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: RE: Safaris to the Heart spreading itself about. Thanks for your always kind words, sweet Sue - we share the drive to expand the Joni knowledge base, whether it's by finding covers of her songs or identifying tunings and chord patterns. And yeah, dem Mutts are something else - Joni folks of heart and mind to be sure. Regarding your question about the Scandinavian singer, I'm not sure but it's probably Irma Schultz, who first recorded a CD of Joni covers with a band that called itself "A Bird That Whistles" and more recently released another whole album's worth of Joni covers in Swedish language. Speaking of artists for whom English is NOT their primary language, I always love the non-English language versions because that takes the efforts to another level. Translating and still maintaining the balance, rhythm and poetry of Joni's words has to be an incredible challenge. Roxana Amed does "Amelia" in both English and Spanish on her CD. Her guitarist loved it so much that he recorded it too! And I'll never forget when I got the LP of an Estonian singer who translated THREE Joni songs into Estonian.Joni is loved the whole world over. As for Best cover for 2012...that would be an interesting competition indeed. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. 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In fact, I love all the covers on this fundraiser, which are: Cactus Tree - Richard Flynn Judgement of the Moon and Stars - Robin Adler & Mutts of the Planet Night in the City - Sue Tierney Real Good for Free - Martin Giles Shades of Scarlet Conquering - William Waddell Shiny Toys - Anita Gabrielle & Dave King >________________________________ > From: Bob Muller >To: "lesirvin@gmail.com" >Cc: JMDL ; Anita G >Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:13:41 PM >Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com fundraiser > >OMG - I'm listening to this Shiny Toys cover and LOVING IT. > >Haha!! > >Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:30:48 -0700 From: Robin Adler Subject: Re: Covers Wow Bob I thought I'd found something new. You are amazing my friend and such a cool dude at that! Robin On Aug 29, 2012, at 10:22 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > > I have...the band is Dengue Fever, they're not Cambodian but are L.A. - based. They feature a Cambodian singer and mix those sounds with psychedelic rock. It was originally recorded for a Matt Dillon-directed film called "City Of Ghosts". It's a very cool take on the franchise; certainly the only one in Khmer. > > More on the band here: http://denguefevermusic.com/home.cfm > > Bob > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 08:42:35 +0100 (BST) From: Lieve Reckers Subject: Re: Safaris to the Heart spreading itself about. Robin, you put that beautifully, in a way that anyone who has ever heard the Mutts music knows exactly what you mean. I am compelled to add, for the benefit of people who may feel, like Shari, that any cover of Joni's music can only be in the shadow of the original (which is how I felt before having heard your music): you actually enhance the original! This may sound like sacrilege, but it is true, I feel. You don't trump Joni's version, but you - lovingly, skilfully, artfully - incorporate it and carry it on a journey that I am sure Joni herself would also enjoy and identify with. Lots of love to you all, Lieve in London >________________________________ > From: Robin Adler >To: Mark >Cc: "Eaton, Shari" ; Dave Blackburn ; Catherine McKay ; joni@smoe.org >Sent: Wednesday, 29 August 2012, 4:40 >Subject: Re: Safaris to the Heart spreading itself about. > >Hi everyone, > >Here is my take. I do understand Shari's feeling about Joni covers but having listened to some of Bob's cover catalogue and David Gizara's radio show I see there is room for fresh interpretations of her songs. If you think of Joni as a composer and not just a performing artist it opens up a new world. Yes, many of her songs are personal but they are personal in a way many of us can relate to. When Dave and I put together the Mutts band it was never with the intention to make a recording - that came as a natural evolution as a band. The most profound thing that has occurred as a result of dedicating a band solely to Joni's music and playing live has been not just reinvigorating old fans of hers but introducing and helping to create new fans. I think performing live is the most important thing we do in honoring Joni. > >For us it is so much deeper than just enjoying the music and having success around it. We do this because there is no other music that compares in depth and beauty - to my ears at least. I can't even tell you how passionate we are about it. I'm the luckiest of lucky girls to have world class musicians backing me up and willing to play more often than not for next to nothing. > >Robin > > > > >On Aug 28, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Mark wrote: > >> Shari, >> >> I know exactly what you mean and I've felt that way myself for a long time. But these people are the rare exception for me. They get the music. They respect it and still manage to make it their own. Get all of these tracks or buy the cd. You won't be sorry. >> >> And I don't mean to detract from any musician who chooses to cover Joni's work. My hat is also always off to Mr. Mueller for his amazing ability to find so many versions of Joni's songs. It's such a tribute to her that there are so many out there. >> >> But I'm like you, Shari. I've always felt nobody sings Joni Mitchell as well as Joni Mitchell. There are few, to my ears, that can do her justice. Robin Adler is one of those few and she is backed by first rate musicians. The sound quality of the cd is also excellent, thanks to Robin's husband and ace guitar player, Dave Blackburn. >> >> Mark in Seattle >> Mutts of the Planet fan >> >> -----Original Message----- From: Eaton, Shari >> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 2:31 PM >> To: Dave Blackburn >> Cc: Catherine McKay ; joni@smoe.org list >> Subject: Re: Safaris to the Heart spreading itself about. >> >> Dave, >> >> Thanks for sharing. I'm really happy you guys are enjoying playing music and the success around that. I have a hard time listening to anyone but Joni sing her songs. I realize a lot of you do covers and I hope I'm not saying anything ghastly here. I'll just keep out of the covers conversations. >> >> *slinks away into the background. >> >> Cheers, >> Shari >> >> >> >> On Aug 28, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: >> >>> Shari, >>> >>> You can hear clips on http://www.robinadler.com/music.html or http://www.reverbnation.com/robinadlermuttsoftheplanet. The album is downloadable from the usual places but if you wanted the physical CD we'd prefer you got it via our website. Hope you like it. >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >>> On Aug 28, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Shari Eaton wrote: >>> >>>> Are we getting links to these braggable song versions? I'd love to hear, if so. >>>> >>>> Lots of Joni, >>>> Shari >>>> >>>> On Aug 28, 2012, at 5:49 AM, Catherine McKay wrote: >>>> >>>>> You have every right to preen, or even brag. Your stuff is so good that it >>>>> deserves much more attention. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 14:37:51 +0000 From: Susan Tierney McNamara Subject: RE: Safaris to the Heart spreading itself about. Thanks Robin and Dave and the band for all you do. I will never forget as long as I live that beautiful Saturday night in Idyllwild in 2009 where you played song after song of the most beautiful music in the world. I was blown away. As someone who tries very hard to live inside this music and try to understand the genius it came from, I can say without a breath of regret that you guys nail it every time. Only love can do that! A grateful fan of the Mutts of the Planet ... Sue Susan Tierney McNamara email: sem8@cornell.edu - -----Original Message----- From: owner-joni@smoe.org [mailto:owner-joni@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Robin Adler Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 11:41 PM To: Mark Cc: Eaton, Shari; Dave Blackburn; Catherine McKay; joni@smoe.org Subject: Re: Safaris to the Heart spreading itself about. Hi everyone, Here is my take. I do understand Shari's feeling about Joni covers but having listened to some of Bob's cover catalogue and David Gizara's radio show I see there is room for fresh interpretations of her songs. If you think of Joni as a composer and not just a performing artist it opens up a new world. Yes, many of her songs are personal but they are personal in a way many of us can relate to. When Dave and I put together the Mutts band it was never with the intention to make a recording - that came as a natural evolution as a band. The most profound thing that has occurred as a result of dedicating a band solely to Joni's music and playing live has been not just reinvigorating old fans of hers but introducing and helping to create new fans. I think performing live is the most important thing we do in honoring Joni. For us it is so much deeper than just enjoying the music and having success around it. We do this because there is no other music that compares in depth and beauty - to my ears at least. I can't even tell you how passionate we are about it. I'm the luckiest of lucky girls to have world class musicians backing me up and willing to play more often than not for next to nothing. Robin On Aug 28, 2012, at 6:14 PM, Mark wrote: > Shari, > > I know exactly what you mean and I've felt that way myself for a long time. But these people are the rare exception for me. They get the music. They respect it and still manage to make it their own. Get all of these tracks or buy the cd. You won't be sorry. > > And I don't mean to detract from any musician who chooses to cover Joni's work. My hat is also always off to Mr. Mueller for his amazing ability to find so many versions of Joni's songs. It's such a tribute to her that there are so many out there. > > But I'm like you, Shari. I've always felt nobody sings Joni Mitchell as well as Joni Mitchell. There are few, to my ears, that can do her justice. Robin Adler is one of those few and she is backed by first rate musicians. The sound quality of the cd is also excellent, thanks to Robin's husband and ace guitar player, Dave Blackburn. > > Mark in Seattle > Mutts of the Planet fan > > -----Original Message----- From: Eaton, Shari > Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 2:31 PM > To: Dave Blackburn > Cc: Catherine McKay ; joni@smoe.org list > Subject: Re: Safaris to the Heart spreading itself about. > > Dave, > > Thanks for sharing. I'm really happy you guys are enjoying playing music and the success around that. I have a hard time listening to anyone but Joni sing her songs. I realize a lot of you do covers and I hope I'm not saying anything ghastly here. I'll just keep out of the covers conversations. > > *slinks away into the background. > > Cheers, > Shari > > > > On Aug 28, 2012, at 2:15 PM, Dave Blackburn wrote: > >> Shari, >> >> You can hear clips on http://www.robinadler.com/music.html or http://www.reverbnation.com/robinadlermuttsoftheplanet. The album is downloadable from the usual places but if you wanted the physical CD we'd prefer you got it via our website. Hope you like it. >> >> Dave >> >> >> On Aug 28, 2012, at 1:43 PM, Shari Eaton wrote: >> >>> Are we getting links to these braggable song versions? I'd love to hear, if so. >>> >>> Lots of Joni, >>> Shari >>> >>> On Aug 28, 2012, at 5:49 AM, Catherine McKay wrote: >>> >>>> You have every right to preen, or even brag. Your stuff is so good >>>> that it deserves much more attention. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 21:34:19 -0400 From: "rflynn@frontiernet.net" Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com fundraiser I loved it, too. Richard Flynn Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless - -----Original message----- From: Bob Muller To: "lesirvin@gmail.com" Cc: JMDL , Anita G Sent: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 01:23:30 GMT+00:00 Subject: Re: JoniMitchell.com fundraiser OMG - I'm listening to this Shiny Toys cover and LOVING IT. Haha!! Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 10:25:37 -0700 From: Robin Adler Subject: Re: i like what i look like, and you're nice small Hi Shari, I'm mostly a lurker but one thing I appreciate about the JMDL is that we can freely express ourselves on these various Joni topics. Shari, I second Bob's assurance that what you feel about Joni's music is as valid as anyone's opinion. You could spend a life time just listening to Joni's versions of her own songs and be fulfilled. I appreciate the youtubes of Joni performances that you've sent, many of which I've never seen before. So much good comes from this remarkable group. Love to you all, Robin On Aug 29, 2012, at 9:52 AM, Eaton, Shari wrote: > Hi gang, > > First of all, thank you Bob, for giving me assurance on acceptance outside having the same feelings and preferences as others in this group. I was raised first on the ideas in the "Free to Be, You and Me" album and have always tried to live that ideal and hope that others reciprocate. > > Anecdotally, at the age of 5 I used one of the songs on this album as support for a demonstration I arranged for my Mom. I was wanting to dress myself and leaned heavily on their lyric "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink". > > Even though I've been listening to Joni for around two decades I'm still discovering her (and more so recently!). I'm not ready to move onto cover artists but when I am ready, thanks to this bunch, I have got the goods at my fingertips. > > Lots of Joni, > Shari > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_26FOHoaC78&feature=plcp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:04:14 -0700 From: Robin Adler Subject: Re: Covers There is a documentary on Netflix streaming called "Dancing Across Borders" about a Cambodian dancer. Around 13 min. into it the background music is a version of BSN I assume being sung in Cambodian. Have you heard that Bob? And yes Sue is a sweet and generous soul. Robin On Aug 29, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Susan Tierney McNamara wrote: > I remember the singer I was thinking of, Charlie Dee from the Netherlands. > She received a note from Joni ... but I can't find that news item. Here's a > youtube: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLdYqZPH3eE > > > > Susan Tierney McNamara > email: sem8@cornell.edu > > From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com [mailto:Bob.Muller@Fluor.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 11:11 AM > To: Susan Tierney McNamara > Cc: joni@smoe.org > Subject: RE: Safaris to the Heart spreading itself about. > > Thanks for your always kind words, sweet Sue - we share the drive to expand > the Joni knowledge base, whether it's by finding covers of her songs or > identifying tunings and chord patterns. And yeah, dem Mutts are something else > - Joni folks of heart and mind to be sure. > > Regarding your question about the Scandinavian singer, I'm not sure but it's > probably Irma Schultz, who first recorded a CD of Joni covers with a band that > called itself "A Bird That Whistles" and more recently released another whole > album's worth of Joni covers in Swedish language. > > Speaking of artists for whom English is NOT their primary language, I always > love the non-English language versions because that takes the efforts to > another level. Translating and still maintaining the balance, rhythm and > poetry of Joni's words has to be an incredible challenge. Roxana Amed does > "Amelia" in both English and Spanish on her CD. Her guitarist loved it so much > that he recorded it too! And I'll never forget when I got the LP of an > Estonian singer who translated THREE Joni songs into Estonian.Joni is loved > the whole world over. > > As for Best cover for 2012...that would be an interesting competition indeed. > > Bob > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 09:00:30 -0400 From: Bob.Muller@Fluor.com Subject: Re: Safaris to the Heart spreading itself about. I realize a lot of you do covers and I hope I'm not saying anything ghastly here. > Of course not, Shari - in fact, you're probably in the majority. And I also hope no one thinks it's ghastly when I say that there are Joni covers out there that are better than Joni's versions. And obviously, it's OK to embrace it all! I've always been a bit of a covers freak, sometimes a cover makes me appreciate an artist or a song more than I typically would. For instance, this morning driving to work I heard Rush's cover of Eddie Cochrane's "Summertime Blues". I would typically flip the switch upon hearing Geddy Lee's voice but I dug this recording a lot. And what I REALLY dig is when an artist takes a lump of Joni's genius and re-molds it into a brand-new thing; Laird Jackson's luscious Tin Angel, Roine Stolt's Sex Kills, obviously I could go on and on. Bottom Line - it's totally cool of you to stick to the Joni main street and you'll catch no grief from anyone here for doing so. Bob - ------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. - ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 17:46:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Merk54@aol.com Subject: Re: Safaris to the Heart spreading itself about. Just want to throw my two cents in. I will always remember the first time I heard Safaris. It felt immediately familiar and welcoming - like a favorite pair of jeans found in the back of a closet. But after putting them on, you realize someone altered them or added some embroidery, making them fresh and new, but without losing any of the charm they originally had. It was a perfect balancing act of being respectful but not redundant. Then of course there was that wonderful performance in the park before the Joni tribute at the Hollywood Bowl. And let's not forget the concert DVD. Truly a remarkable performance. Now if I could only get my hands on a copy of the new version of Jungle Line! I haven't checked yet. Hopefully it's included on the JMDL fund raiser CD (I hope, I hope!). Jack ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:10:12 -0700 From: David Gizara Subject: Re: Covers I thought I'd throw this in: The joke behind the late, great Andy Kaufman"s "Elvis Impersanator" routine was that he was thinking the impersonator he saw in Vegas was the root performance, i.e. he didn't know that he was watching an impersonator. Robins take on Down To You and Lydia van Dam's Het Kraaienlied (BlacK Crow) have been on my IPOD for a couple months now and were probably my personal favorites from this years JMJ Summmer Solstice Radio Special. David Gizara - -like Thursday Night Jazz KLCC on facebook. On Aug 29, 2012, at 4:13 PM, JMDL Digest wrote: > > JMDL Digest Wednesday, August 29 2012 Volume 2012 : > Number 1225 > > > > ========== > > TOPICS and authors in this Digest: > -------- > Re: Covers/Safaris of the Heart and All That Jazz [Anita G > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2012 00:12:38 +0100 > From: Anita G > Subject: Re: Covers/Safaris of the Heart and All That Jazz > > Forgive me Joni Friends for missing so much, but I went all Light > Weight for a while (whilst the Olympics were here in the UK) and went > on the Joni Digest, which is a bit hard to negotiate. Must get back > on the full list, but I did want to chime in a wee bit on the current > threads about covers, originals and Safaris of the Heart. > > I think that it's great that Shari finds so much in Joni's originals. > How else did we all get so moved and swept away for so long other than > by the superlative nature of Joni's music. Or maybe I should say how > else did I get swept along for the last 44 years? I am so grateful > that Joni's songwriting has been so awesome that folk can offer > interpretations that are so diverse that something new emerges in an > often familiar melody or lyric. That's why our Cover King, dear Bob, > has done such a great job - to have the interest to keep bringing new > arrangements to my ears and heart is just great. And Joni's originals > remain great. > > And there, on this very site, are contributions from the Mutts and > Robin Adler. I have said it here many time before, but I have heard > many great singers cover Joni's songs and seen many great players - > but no-one has come close to stirring so consistently the feeling in > me that I had when I saw Joni play for the first time in January 1970 > - - apart from Robin and Dave. I am just so grateful that now Joni > doesn't get out there to play and sing these days that we have the > chance to see Robin, Dave and the Mutts interpreting Joni's music in a > way that I believe Joni would just love. Seeing Robin and Dave play > Joni has been a particular blessing for me, and I continue to feel > enormously grateful that I have lived long enough to see them play and > experience Joni's music in what I feel is a truly authentic way, > Anita x > > ------------------------------ > > End of JMDL Digest V2012 #1225 > ****************************** > > ------- > To post messages to the list, sendtojoni@smoe.org. > Unsubscribe by clicking here: > mailto:joni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe > ------- ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #275 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe