From: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org (onlyJMDL Digest) To: onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Subject: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #265 Reply-To: joni@smoe.org Sender: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-onlyjoni-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk Website:http://www.jonimitchell.com Unsubscribe:mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe onlyJMDL Digest Thursday, August 23 2012 Volume 2012 : Number 265 ========== TOPICS and authors in this Digest: -------- Re: Joni's rambling stories [Jimmy Stewart ] Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #263 [donald.barthel@kodak.com] Re: Joni's rambling stories ["Eaton, Shari" ] Re: Joni's rambling stories [shadows and light ] Just Like This Train [Michael Sentance ] Re: Feeling & Concealing Chords [Ken ] Re: Joni's rambling stories ["Eaton, Shari" ] "Harlem In Havana", was: Joni on the radio, long ["Jim L'Hommedieu" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:26:25 -0400 From: Jimmy Stewart Subject: Re: Joni's rambling stories It's great Shari. It may be old news to some of us old farts, but it brings life to the list. Jimmy ....gesendet von meinem iPhone On Aug 22, 2012, at 6:27 PM, "Eaton, Shari" wrote: > Okay if anyone gets sick of my emails just let me know and I'll edit down to only new news! > Thanks Bob. > > On Aug 22, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > >> $pam away, Shari - it's old news to us grizzled old-time JMDLer's but I >> can vividly remember the first time I heard these recordings and was >> hanging on every line. Of course, back in those days it was via a cassette >> player or a CD player, there wasn't the instant gratification of listening >> on your PC. >> >> And who knows, there are probably more newbies out there that haven't >> heard these recordings and will welcome them as much as you. >> >> Bob >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> The information transmitted is intended only for the person >> or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >> proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. >> If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are >> hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, >> distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon >> this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please >> contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. >> >> Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual >> sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. >> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 14:34:23 -0400 From: donald.barthel@kodak.com Subject: Re: onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #263 I agree totally with the comment below. I think it is one of the most beautiful examples of Joni's singing! It's downright rapturous! The DED disc and the inclusion of "Speechless" (the so-called demo of "Two Grey Rooms ") made it worth while to me. In my mind, the instrumental isn't really a demo because it lacks words. It can't be a demo. Donald R. Barthel FPEG RFS FORMULATION Formulation Technician 585-477-7110 x77110 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:27:40 -0700 From: "Eaton, Shari" Subject: Re: Joni's rambling stories Okay if anyone gets sick of my emails just let me know and I'll edit down to only new news! Thanks Bob. On Aug 22, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > $pam away, Shari - it's old news to us grizzled old-time JMDLer's but I > can vividly remember the first time I heard these recordings and was > hanging on every line. Of course, back in those days it was via a cassette > player or a CD player, there wasn't the instant gratification of listening > on your PC. > > And who knows, there are probably more newbies out there that haven't > heard these recordings and will welcome them as much as you. > > Bob > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:59:21 -0700 From: shadows and light Subject: Re: Joni's rambling stories when and if joni writes that biography she was contracted to write years ago, i would love an audio book with joni speaking. she is such an amazing storyteller. On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Jimmy Stewart wrote: > It's great Shari. It may be old news to some of us old farts, but it > brings life to the list. > > Jimmy > > ....gesendet von meinem iPhone > > On Aug 22, 2012, at 6:27 PM, "Eaton, Shari" wrote: > > > Okay if anyone gets sick of my emails just let me know and I'll edit > down to only new news! > > Thanks Bob. > > > > On Aug 22, 2012, at 1:30 PM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > > > >> $pam away, Shari - it's old news to us grizzled old-time JMDLer's but I > >> can vividly remember the first time I heard these recordings and was > >> hanging on every line. Of course, back in those days it was via a > cassette > >> player or a CD player, there wasn't the instant gratification of > listening > >> on your PC. > >> > >> And who knows, there are probably more newbies out there that haven't > >> heard these recordings and will welcome them as much as you. > >> > >> Bob > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ > >> The information transmitted is intended only for the person > >> or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > >> proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > >> If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > >> hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > >> distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > >> this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > >> contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > >> > >> Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > >> sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > >> ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 15:23:22 -0400 From: Michael Sentance Subject: Just Like This Train First, there's nothing wrong with the download. At least on a Mac. Second, it sounds like it's the truncated clip from a FM recording that I have as "Night Ride Home/Just Like This Train". It is a session with Larry Klein accompanying her. Perhaps someone else knows more about this recording. All the best, M ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 22:05:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Ken Subject: Re: Feeling & Concealing Chords Hi, Shari, I see Joni using "conceal" as a verb in this case; the broken trees & elephant ivories (piano body/parts & keys) conceal (hide) the chords until the pianist chooses how to express or "feel" them (a C Major, a C Minor, a C Major 6th, etc.). Kenny B On Aug 21, 2012, Shari Eaton wrote: "Condemned to wires and hammers Strike every chord that you feel That broken trees And elephant ivories conceal" She's using the word conceal in its noun state. The wood of the piano and the keys are on the outside. The wires and hammers are on the inside. The internal emotional workings are concealed by the casing of the piano. Just as our bodies are a concealment for our inner emotional workings. Lots of Joni, Shari - ---------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 13:23:41 -0700 From: "Eaton, Shari" Subject: Re: Joni's rambling stories It's true. I feel like I'm spamming you guys but I just found a song I've never heard before  with another awesome intro. Joni Mitchell - Dr. Junk The Dentist Man (WITH intro) - Concert Unknown (AKA Germany 1968) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4DBN4DWjUg On Aug 22, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: > Oh yeah - these stories are great, and there are LOTS of them. No > collection that I'm aware of. REALLY gives you insight into the background > of the song. > > Bob > > > > > > From: "Eaton, Shari" > To: JMDL > Date: 08/22/2012 02:19 PM > Subject: Re: Joni's rambling stories > Sent by: owner-joni@smoe.org > > > > Link didn't show. > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmwxGYA1IIA > > > > On Aug 22, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Eaton, Shari wrote: > >> They're sort of my favorite part about her live songs. Do we have a > collection >> of them? >> >> Here's one I haven't heard before: >> >> Joni Mitchell - Carey (with full intro) >> >> She tells about the guy Carey that she met in Greece. The one who > inspired >> this song. Fun little peek into her social life. >> >> >> Lots of Joni, >> Shari > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > The information transmitted is intended only for the person > or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > proprietary, business-confidential and/or privileged material. > If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are > hereby notified that any use, review, retransmission, dissemination, > distribution, reproduction or any action taken in reliance upon > this message is prohibited. If you received this in error, please > contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. > > Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual > sender and may not necessarily reflect the views of the company. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:07:40 -0400 From: "Jim L'Hommedieu" Subject: "Harlem In Havana", was: Joni on the radio, long Joni put out a CD on the Hear Music label, dedicated to her influences, called "Joni Mitchell artist's choice". It is out of print but it is easily obtained on eBay and Amazon. The idea of the collection was to pull together some of her influences. As usual, Joni broke the rules and I'm glad she did, also as usual. On the collection, she put her own song "Harlem In Havana" right after "Jeep's Blues", a track from Duke Ellington. In the liner notes about "Harlem In Havana", Joni said >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>The highlight of the summer, when AI was growing up in Saskatoon, Canada, was the week the fair came to town. At the end of the mile-long midway, there were two adult, Vegas-style shows- Club Lido and Harlem in Havana. Parents seemed to be scared by Harlem in Havana. "Don't let me catch you standing there!" Every kid I knew got that instruction. Every hour or so (if you wanted to), you could hear the barker shouting through the roar of crowds and rides, "Step right up folks; it's Harlem in Havana time!" When I heard this, I'd go running- to see the band file out- horns in hand- and seat themselves behind the blue and silver music stands. "They'd begin to play this brassy, stripper groove- so slow and humid. Then came out the girls- black girls- some chewing gum- and they begin to move- slowly- flipping their capes open and closed to the beat- like they had done a million times- a tired, bored tease. I stuck my song in here beside "Jeep's Blues," just for fun- just to check something out. I didn't intend to, but I left it here (in the collection)- between (writer) Johnny Hodges and Louis Jordan- because somehow it fits. In reviewing this song ("Harlem In Havana"), I found two influences that I had unconsciously assimilated- Marvin Gaye and the whisper singers of Burundi.>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All the best, Jim L'Hommedieu PS, the spell checker in Microsoft Outlook didn't recognize "backbeat". I like the spell checker on my iPhone 3GS better. It learned JMDL and NJC with minimal effort. now playing, "Third World Man" from the same compact disc From: Dave Blackburn I think you're right Bob. Joni's "shuffle" is often a rather complex 12/8 pattern where it's hard to tell where 1 is. I'm thinking of Crazy Cries of Love or Harlem in Havana in particular. She's definitely got some drummer blood in her as those are not your typical coffeehouse strums. Even the programmed Lucky Girl is a weird shuffle, with the xylophone accenting 6 beats in the bar, the ride cymbal playing in 4 and the snare backbeat placed on the last eighth note of the 12/8 groove. Too bad it wasn't played by a band - it might have had some sashay. Bob.Muller@Fluor.com wrote: >> I love the sashay, strut and sway, beat of Number One.> >> >> One of those "shuffle" songs...Sue and other guitarists - was "Be Cool" >> the first song she wrote that had the shuffle rhythm? Nothing earlier >> comes to mind. I feel like she employed it a lot after that. >> >> Bob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:17:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Catherine McKay Subject: Re: Joni's rambling stories What they said. If someone doesn't like it, that's their problem. Some of us forget things too. ;-) >________________________________ > From: Jimmy Stewart >To: "Eaton, Shari" >Cc: "Bob.Muller@Fluor.com" ; JMDL >Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2012 8:26:25 PM >Subject: Re: Joni's rambling stories > >It's great Shari. It may be old news to some of us old farts, but it brings life to the list. > >Jimmy > >....gesendet von meinem iPhone > >On Aug 22, 2012, at 6:27 PM, "Eaton, Shari" wrote: > >> Okay if anyone gets sick of my emails just let me know and I'll edit down to only new news! >> Thanks Bob. ------------------------------ End of onlyJMDL Digest V2012 #265 ********************************* ------- Post messages to the list by clicking here:mailto:joni@smoe.org Unsubscribe by clicking here: mailto:onlyjoni-digest-request@smoe.org?body=unsubscribe